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Starting Strenght progression log

  • 18-10-2010 12:47pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭


    Greetings,

    I'm 33yrs, 6' & 87k at the moment.
    My aim is reduce body fat/gain lean muscle and increase what I can lift over time.
    I first went to the gym Wed 13th Oct and tried to gauge what I could lift easily enough(3 sets of 5 reps) and start from there.
    Wed 13 Oct (WXSXR)
    Squats
    20k X 1 X 5
    30k X 1 X 5
    40k X 3 X 5 (set)
    Bench Press
    20k X 1 X 5
    22.5k X 1 X 5
    25k X 3 X 5 (set)
    Deadlift
    50k X 1 X 5 (set)

    This was literally the first time I was in the gym on my own so I didn't really know what I was at. I had gone down at about 8pm but the place was mobbed and I couldn't get at the squat rack at all. I ended up wandering around with my hand towel trying not to look too conspicuous!
    After a while I went home and came back at 9pm which was much better, squat rack and benches free...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Squats
    20k X 5 X 1
    30k X 3 X 1
    40k X 1 X 1
    50k X 5 X 3 (set)

    Bench Press
    20k X 5 X 1
    25k X 5 X 1
    30k X 5 X 1
    35k X 5 X 1
    40k X 5 X 3 (set)

    Dead Lift
    30k X 5 X 2
    50k X 2 X 1
    70k X 5 X 1 (set)

    I felt I was a lot better than my first time on Wednesday on all 3 lifts. I found the squats challenging but I was going right down on every rep.

    I surprised myself with the bench press. When I was warming up with just the bar I didn't think I would be able to handle 2 X 10k plates added!
    I think doing proper warmup up sets really make a big difference towards hitting the working set (especially on the Bench Press)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭mrpink6789


    Hey,

    Fair play on kicking thing's off. My advice however would be to slow down on your progression. If it's your first time trying these exercises form is key so increasing the weight too much can cause a lot of damage. I started off Squatting 20kg and Dead lifting 40kg just to make sure technique was right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭G86


    Just out of interest, are you male or female?

    You might want to lessen the increments or you could find your progress stalling pretty quickly. I'm guessing you were still just trying to gauge a base to start from in your last session though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    When the progress stalls then he can just take a bit off and reduce the increments.

    However OP, Do you intend on deadlifting every session?
    Are you planning on doing the Overhead press at all?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    mrpink6789 wrote: »
    Hey,

    Fair play on kicking thing's off. My advice however would be to slow down on your progression. If it's your first time trying these exercises form is key so increasing the weight too much can cause a lot of damage. I started off Squatting 20kg and Dead lifting 40kg just to make sure technique was right.

    Cheers mrpink, I'll take you advice on board.
    G86 wrote: »
    Just out of interest, are you male or female?
    Male, forgot to mention that!
    G86 wrote: »
    I'm guessing you were still just trying to gauge a base to start from in your last session though?

    Hi G86, I think the first time I went I didn't really know what I was capable of, I didn't warm up on the bench press with sets properly and didn't stretch my legs at all really.
    Before I went last time I ran 1K on the treadmill and gave my legs a good stretching before the squats. I think I found doing the squats made it easier to progress also.
    On the Bench I found adding weight each set made me more confident to test myself with the next set. I'll have to try the 40k bench again as I know I was a bit wobbly on it...
    I did feel like I was going to burst with the deadlifts, but I'm confident I could do it again without wrecking myself :pac:

    [QUOTE=You might want to lessen the increments or you could find your progress stalling pretty quickly.?[/QUOTE]

    Don't worry, I won't be incrementing the weight anywhere near that tonight. (Maybe 10k on the squats & deads and see how I get on with the bench)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    When the progress stalls then he can just take a bit off and reduce the increments.

    However OP, Do you intend on deadlifting every session?
    Are you planning on doing the Overhead press at all?

    I had intended to deadlift every session but have decided against it.

    I was going to substitute power cleans with chin/pull ups but the Overhead press looks like something I would like to do!

    What do you reckon is the best alternative to powercleans??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    lastlaugh wrote: »
    I had intended to deadlift every session but have decided against it.

    I was going to substitute power cleans with chin/pull ups but the Overhead press looks like something I would like to do!

    What do you reckon is the best alternative to powercleans??

    Frankly, there are a few and nobody can say what is best.

    Do not deadlift every session. There. I said it.
    Once it gets heavy it will destroy you.;)

    Chins are good. Rippetoe has published a few different versions of the Linear Progression. One of Which is:

    Monday: Squat, Bench/OH Press, Chins
    Wednesday Squat, Bench/OH Press, Deadlift
    Fri: Squat, Bench/OH Press, Pullups.

    With the chins/pulls done for 3 sets to failure.

    You could do:
    A: Squat, bench, Chins
    B: Squat, OH Press, Deadlift


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    lastlaugh wrote: »
    What do you reckon is the best alternative to powercleans??

    Booooo! learn how to power clean!

    Edit, just saw that it's your first time in the gym so maybe that isn't the best advice. Maybe practice power cleans with a brush handle for a while and do them with the bar once you're comfortable with the deadlift. They're not exactly rocket science.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    The Dropping of the bar can be an issue in many gyms.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    Do not deadlift every session. There. I said it.
    Once it gets heavy it will destroy you.;)

    Well I definitely don't want to be destroyed and that's for sure!
    d'Oracle wrote: »
    Chins are good. Rippetoe has published a few different versions of the Linear Progression. One of Which is:

    Monday: Squat, Bench/OH Press, Chins
    Wednesday Squat, Bench/OH Press, Deadlift
    Fri: Squat, Bench/OH Press, Pullups.

    With the chins/pulls done for 3 sets to failure.

    You could do:
    A: Squat, bench, Chins
    B: Squat, OH Press, Deadlift

    That last one sounds good, incorporating chin ups and OH press into a program with squats/Deadlifts seems to me like it would give you a real overall workout. (Not that I'm an expert or anything!) I'd say if I could do all these I'd be doing really well.
    Dead Ed wrote: »
    Booooo! learn how to power clean!

    Edit, just saw that it's your first time in the gym so maybe that isn't the best advice. Maybe practice power cleans with a brush handle for a while and do them with the bar once you're comfortable with the deadlift. They're not exactly rocket science.

    This video is emblazened on my mind, so I should be able to give them a bash on Wednesday :rolleyes:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TlbDQUWs0s


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    lastlaugh wrote: »

    That last one sounds good, incorporating chin ups and OH press into a program with squats/Deadlifts seems to me like it would give you a real overall workout. (Not that I'm an expert or anything!) I'd say if I could do all these I'd be doing really well.



    I didn't do them.
    Put on a few kgs and when I finally did try them I could only get around 2.
    I'd advise you to do chins for that reason.

    That and it being useful to have a strong upper back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    lastlaugh wrote: »
    This video is emblazened on my mind, so I should be able to give them a bash on Wednesday :rolleyes:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TlbDQUWs0s

    Good! Prepare to become more awesome :D.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Warmed up with a 1km jog. Had to do Bench press first as Squat racks were full.

    Bench Press
    20k X 5 X 1
    25k X 5 X 1
    30k X 5 X 1
    35k X 5 X 1
    40k X 5 X 1
    45k X 5 X 1 (no way I was going to do 3 sets so went back to 40k sets)
    40k X 5 X 3 (set: was difficult but kept form, better than Sat)

    Squats
    20k X 5 X 1
    30k X 5 X 1
    40k X 5 X 1
    50k X 5 X 1
    55k X 5 X 3 (set: am a little concerned my form might not be fully correct with this. When I consiously keep my knees behind my toes when I rise I feel my hamstrings really working. I think I might be using my Quads more than I should. I think I need to follow the below vid more closer with regard to using my hips more...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yha2XAc2qu8

    Dead Lift
    30k X 5 X 2
    50k X 2 X 1
    70k X 5 X 1 (set: disappointed I didn't have time to add more, felt easier than Sat with the 70k)

    Was sweating quite a lot after this session!
    Will try power cleans, concentrate on squat form and see if I can add 5k to BP on Wed.
    Will definitely add more to deadlift on Friday.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    lastlaugh wrote: »


    Squats
    20k X 5 X 1
    30k X 5 X 1
    40k X 5 X 1
    50k X 5 X 1
    55k X 5 X 3 (set: am a little concerned my form might not be fully correct with this. When I consiously keep my knees behind my toes when I rise I feel my hamstrings really working. I think I might be using my Quads more than I should. I think I need to follow the below vid more closer with regard to using my hips more...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yha2XAc2qu8


    On that video, be careful. While you want to use your hips you don't want to squat like that kid does by the end of that video. Its a bad video because it shows one teaching point but not the whole squat being taught. You can see the kid is loosing his back-angle (his hips move up faster than his shoulders) and that is a bad thing to do.

    As for the hamstrings, you are meant to feel them working in the low bar squat.


    lastlaugh wrote: »
    Dead Lift
    30k X 5 X 2
    50k X 2 X 1
    70k X 5 X 1 (set: disappointed I didn't have time to add more, felt easier than Sat with the 70k)


    Of course it feels easier than it did on saturday. Thats the point of linear progression, you get stronger really quickly when you start off. I can't see a point in staying at the same weight unless you are missing reps or its really hard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Warmed up with a 1km jog. I did this with the speed at a constant 12kph, didn't have to lessen the speed like the last few times!

    Squats
    30k X 5 X 1
    40k X 5 X 1
    50k X 5 X 1
    60k X 5 X 1
    65k X 5 X 3 (set: Had to really strain (and curse) to finish these, think I'm doing too many warm ups before the set)

    Bench Press
    20k X 5 X 1
    30k X 5 X 1
    40k X 5 X 1
    45k X 5 X 2
    (Failed on 3rd set, absolutely no juice left in arms, had to leave bar on chest and escape from bench.:()
    40k X 5 X 3 (set: 5k is too much of a jump for me with these)

    Power Cleans
    40k X 2 X 1 (Ugh :eek:. Far to heavy to start with, these really drain you're legs, and my legs felt battered after the squats)
    30k X 5 X 1 (one of the instructors helped me out with these)
    That was me done for the night, those Power Cleans had me wanting to go home!

    G86 wrote: »
    You might want to lessen the increments or you could find your progress stalling pretty quickly.

    You're right, I think I'll concentrate more on form and less on the weight. I'll just try 42.5kg Bench on the next workout.
    d'Oracle wrote: »
    When the progress stalls then he can just take a bit off and reduce the increments.

    I might drop my squat back to 60kg next and work on my form.
    Dead Ed wrote: »
    Booooo! learn how to power clean!
    These really do feel explosive compared to the other ones.

    I was a bit dissappointed having failed the bench press but it's early days yet. I'm only doing it a week but I really look forward to going for the next one. As some of you have advised already, I'll ease up on adding too much too soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    lastlaugh wrote: »
    Warmed up with a 1km jog. I did this with the speed at a constant 12kph, didn't have to lessen the speed like the last few times!

    Squats
    30k X 5 X 1
    40k X 5 X 1
    50k X 5 X 1
    60k X 5 X 1
    65k X 5 X 3 (set: Had to really strain (and curse) to finish these, think I'm doing too many warm ups before the set)

    Bench Press
    20k X 5 X 1
    30k X 5 X 1
    40k X 5 X 1
    45k X 5 X 2
    (Failed on 3rd set, absolutely no juice left in arms, had to leave bar on chest and escape from bench.:()
    40k X 5 X 3 (set: 5k is too much of a jump for me with these)

    Power Cleans
    40k X 2 X 1 (Ugh :eek:. Far to heavy to start with, these really drain you're legs, and my legs felt battered after the squats)
    30k X 5 X 1 (one of the instructors helped me out with these)
    That was me done for the night, those Power Cleans had me wanting to go home!




    You're right, I think I'll concentrate more on form and less on the weight. I'll just try 42.5kg Bench on the next workout.



    I might drop my squat back to 60kg next and work on my form.


    These really do feel explosive compared to the other ones.

    I was a bit dissappointed having failed the bench press but it's early days yet. I'm only doing it a week but I really look forward to going for the next one. As some of you have advised already, I'll ease up on adding too much too soon.

    I think you may be pushing to hard and for to many sets on the squats.I would of done
    2x5xbar
    1x5x30
    1x3x40
    1x2x55
    3x5x65

    I am just a beginner at this myself though so listen to the more experienced guys here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    You are doing way too much in the warmups for your lifts.

    Dinorebel has outlined the warm up method described in the book.
    2 sets of five with just the bar (60kg on deadlifts)
    a set of 5 with a bit of weight,
    a set of 3 with a bit more
    and then a set of 2 with more again.
    Then do your 3x5 at your work weight.


    Also, don't drop back to 60 and work on your form.
    That is not what I meant in the quote at all.
    Working on form can be done during warmups or resets.
    There is no point in getting really good form at light weights if its gonna go out the window at heavier weights.

    You got your reps, eat, sleep and move on next workout.
    You'll do grand.

    Also do the OH press, its awesome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    You are doing way too much in the warmups for your lifts.

    Dinorebel has outlined the warm up method described in the book.
    2 sets of five with just the bar (60kg on deadlifts)
    a set of 5 with a bit of weight,
    a set of 3 with a bit more
    and then a set of 2 with more again.
    Then do your 3x5 at your work weight.


    Also, don't drop back to 60 and work on your form.
    That is not what I meant in the quote at all.
    Working on form can be done during warmups or resets.
    There is no point in getting really good form at light weights if its gonna go out the window at heavier weights.

    You got your reps, eat, sleep and move on next workout.
    You'll do grand.

    Also do the OH press, its awesome.

    No the OH Press is the devils exercise good for you though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭mrpink6789


    dinorebel wrote: »
    No the OH Press is the devils exercise good for you though.

    It's always better to do exercises you hate! OH is very tough for me but there's no better feeling after completing a set on a heavier weight then last time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Warmed up with usual 1km jog. Speed a constant 12.5kph, breathing a lot better on this...

    Body Weight 84.7

    Squats
    20k X 5 X 1
    30k X 5 X 1
    40k X 3 X 1
    60k X 2 X 1
    70k X 2 X 1 (NOT....TODAY...)
    65k X 5 X 1 (UGgghh)

    60k X 5 X 3 (set: These felt difficult from 40k on)

    Bench Press
    20k X 5 X 1
    30k X 3 X 1
    40k X 2 X 1
    42.5k X 5 X 3 (set: These went well, try 45k on Monday)

    Deadlift
    40k X 5 X 1
    60k X 3 X 1
    70k X 5 X 1 (set: Was aiming for an 80k set but this went out the window when I realised how heavy 70k felt.)

    Felt difficult today from early on in the squats. Might leave out the run and just stretch, thoughts?
    Form on squats better today, trying to focus on form over weight, might be why it was so difficult! All over the place Wednesday.
    Must do up a plan to christmas with realistic goals.
    Stick with 2.5k increments on Bench Press.
    Start with OH Press on Monday.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Warmed up with just a .6km jog.

    Squats
    20k X 5 X 1
    30k X 5 X 1
    40k X 3 X 1
    60k X 2 X 1
    62.5k X 5 X 3 (set: felt strong on these today, kept good form)

    Bench Press
    20k X 5 X 1
    30k X 3 X 1
    40k X 2 X 1
    45k X 5 X 3 (set: glad I'm seeing some progress here)

    Power Cleans
    30k X 5 X 1
    35k X 3 X 5 (set: felt OK)

    OH Press
    20k X 5 X 1
    25k X 5 X 3 (set: might try 27.5k on Thursday)

    Felt stronger today, really need to get a my diet in order though, weekends are particularly bad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Missed yesterdays session which I'm a bit miffed about.

    No warm ups, straight over to the Squat rack!

    Squats
    20k X 5 X 1
    30k X 5 X 1
    40k X 3 X 1
    60k X 2 X 1
    65k X 5 X 3 (set: Went well)

    Bench Press
    20k X 5 X 1
    30k X 3 X 1
    40k X 2 X 1
    45k X 1 X 1
    47.5k X 5 X 3 (set: 3rd set difficult but kept form, feel a lot stronger)

    Deadlift
    40k X 5 X 1
    60k X 3 X 1
    75k X 5 X 1 (set: Felt good considering 70k was reallly tough in my 5th session)

    OH Press
    20k X 5 X 1
    25k X 3 X 1
    27.5k X 5 X 3 (set: last rep was a real strain but got it:rolleyes:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    You know that you are supposed to alternate the bench and overhead press?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    As d'Oracle said you really need to alternate the Press & the Bench doing both will soon put a halt to any progress.Apart from that how are you finding SS I am about 5 weeks in and am really enjoying it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    You know that you are supposed to alternate the bench and overhead press?

    I know, I know... I kind of felt I should be doing something else after the other exercises. The bar was there, I couldn't resist!

    I think I'll start the 'Practical Programming Novice Program' which you had mentioned before and dinorebel is doing. The more basic program seems a little too basic, I'll get bored with it sooner I think.
    dinorebel wrote: »
    As d'Oracle said you really need to alternate the Press & the Bench doing both will soon put a halt to any progress.Apart from that how are you finding SS I am about 5 weeks in and am really enjoying it.

    Yeah I'm really enjoying it I have to say thanks, it's good to post up the progress and see the gains and get feedback. Finding it easier to stay off the fags and more aware of my health in general.
    I feel like I'm getting stronger and would definitely advise anyone to start doing weights! :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Squats
    30k X 5
    40k X 3
    50k X 2
    60k X 1
    67.5k X 5 X 3 (set: my Quads or Hamstrings are not sore during or after squats, it feels like the (tendons?) that connect my inner thigh to my hips are taking all the strain. I'm pretty sure my form is good but it feels strange, like something would pop if there was much more weight on the bar)

    Bench Press
    20k X 5 X 1
    30k X 3 X 1
    40k X 2 X 1
    45k X 1 X 1
    47.5k X 5 X 3 (set: same weight as last time, silly mistake by me, if I get the 50k next time I'll be happy)

    Power Cleans
    30k X 5 X 1
    40k X 3 X 5 (set: these are a bit of craic all the same)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Warmed up with easy 1km jog @ 9kph...

    Squats
    30k X 5
    40k X 3
    50k X 2
    60k X 1
    70k X 5 X 3 (set: No strange pains today! Can get to parallel 'easily enough', getting below paralllel which is what I've been doing up until now, is getting difficult though. Should I be aiming at below parallel for every rep:confused:)

    OH Press
    20k X 5 X 1
    25k X 3 X 1
    30k X 5 X 3 (set: have to get better at these bad boys)


    Deadlift
    40k X 5 X 1
    60k X 3 X 1
    80k X 5 X 1 (set: I was sweating lots after these but I felt they went really well, a good way to finish up, looking forward to next Deadlift day)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭mrpink6789


    I have been going just below parallel myself but I had a bit of a pain yesterday in my knee so I might just stick to parallel for now. I read on a few different threads about the topic and it seems very 50/50, would be interested if anyone else has any opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    mrpink6789 wrote: »
    I have been going just below parallel myself but I had a bit of a pain yesterday in my knee so I might just stick to parallel for now. I read on a few different threads about the topic and it seems very 50/50, would be interested if anyone else has any opinion.

    Here's a good thead I got from googling 'below parallel squat'.
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=516536463#post516536463

    Fair play on all the progress you've made BTW!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Squats
    20k X 5
    40k X 3
    50k X 2
    70k X 1
    72.5k X 5 X 3 (set: I lack the strenght/confidence to get back up from below parallel from over 60k, can do parallel easily enough heavier, feels a bit cheaty though)

    Bench Press
    20k X 5
    40k X 3
    45k X 2
    50k X 5 X 3 (set: maybe 1 or 2 wobbly rep, happy to get those yellow plates on)

    Power Cleans
    30k X 5 X 1
    42.5k X 3 X 5 (set: not really jumping off the ground at all on these)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    I've been looking over my progress for the first 10 sessions with Starting Strenght and here's how it looks this.
    sslog3.png


    I've used the Chart from here, http://exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.html
    given myself a weight of 188lbs and then converted the lbs to kg.
    If I can reach the Novice target weights before or in January I'll be happy.
    I'd like to start with chins/pull ups at some stage but for the moment I'll just try and get my working sets on all my current lifts up to Novice weights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭mrpink6789


    I really wish I didnt look at that chart you linked to, makes me realise my bench and press are useless! :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Don't worry, that chart is based on tests taken on the planet Krypton. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Squats
    30k X 5
    40k X 3
    50k X 2
    60k X 1
    75k X 5 X 3 (set: went well, squatting below parallel, feels better if it's one fluid motion. Was stalling at the bottom too much earlier I think.)

    OH Press
    20k X 5 X 1
    25k X 3 X 1
    32.5k X 5 X 2 (FAIL. Had to drop back to 30k for last set)
    30k X 5 X 1

    Deadlift
    40k X 5 X 1
    60k X 3 X 1
    85k X 5 X 1 (set: Felt heavy but liftable)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Squats
    20k X 5
    40k X 3
    50k X 2
    70k X 1
    77.5k X 5 X 3 (set: Hmmm, OK I suppose, went right down on the last one and it looked like my face was gonna explode pushing back up)

    Bench Press
    20k X 5
    40k X 3
    45k X 2
    50k X 1
    52.5k X 5 X 1 (Difficult, not a chance of 3 sets)
    50k X 5 X 2
    Alternating these with the OH Press will slow down my progress. Even adding 2.5k eack session is difficult for me for both the bench & OH Press. I'll still try and keep doing both, it will effectively halve my progress though.

    Power Cleans
    30k X 5
    40k X 5
    45k X 3 X 5 (set: Meh)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Did a half assed .5km run on the treadmill waiting for the Squat rack to free up.

    Bodyweight 86k.

    Squats
    20k X 5
    40k X 3
    60k X 2
    70k X 1
    80k X 5 X 3 (set: felt strong with these tonight, thought it was going to be much harder before I went)

    OH Press
    20k X 5 X 1
    25k X 3 X 1
    32.5k X 5 X 3 (set. last rep was very wobbly going up, these things make me feel like a weakling)

    Deadlift
    40k X 5 X 1
    80k X 3 X 1
    90k X 5 X 1 (set: >BW. Felt grand, last rep tough, getting hard to keep my grip on the bar though)

    My appetite has really increased since I started last month and I'm eating a lot more. I'm trying to keep my diet clean but it's hard. I feel stronger and more solid but need to really watch my diet (and buy more protein)...

    Feels like alternating the OH press & bench is reducing gains by too much, seriously considering just sticking with the Bench until I get it up to 77k.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Cycled to work, 35km round trip, do this everyday, getting colder & darker out...

    Squats
    20k X 5
    40k X 3
    60k X 2
    70k X 1
    82.5k X 5 X 3 (set: just about squeezed these out, last rep a real struggle, I'm already afraid of 85k)

    Bench Press
    20k X 5
    30k X 3
    40k X 2
    50k X 1
    52.5k X 5 X 1
    52.5k X 2 FAIL
    50k X 5 X 1
    50k feels so much lighter than 52.5k for some reason. If I can't lift 52.5k on Friday I'll be well annoyed.

    Power Cleans
    30k X 5
    40k X 5
    45.7k X 3 X 5 (set: Form a lot better than before on these.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭mrpink6789


    You must be creeping up on BW now for the squats?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    mrpink6789 wrote: »
    You must be creeping up on BW now for the squats?


    Very close to BW now thanks. I was 86k last time I checked & I'm due for 85k Squat tomorrow.
    82.5 was tough though, felt I was using my chest to heave up the bar on one or two.
    Glad I'm using the log to see my progress since the beginning, great incentive to keep going. Reading back a bit I thought some tendons were going to pop and I wouldn't get past 65k!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    35k return cycle to and from work. Got home around 7, got to the Gym about 9.
    Need to get some more protein, might try that Sci MX Whey from Tesco. I'll be damned before I fork out 56 quid for 1kg of Maximuscle. I'm sure I'm not getting enough protein in my diet, will start putting up my diet next week for advice/assessment

    Bodyweight 85.8k.

    Squats
    20k X 5
    40k X 3
    60k X 2
    80k X 1
    85k X 5 X 3 (set: not going as far down as I'd like (right down) but I feel I'm doing well enough for now)

    OH Press
    20k X 5
    25k X 3
    30k X 3
    35k X 5 X 2 (Fail: knew I couldn't sqeeze out another set so went back to 30k, I'll try 35k again next Monday)
    30k X 4 (totally drained, couldn't even get last rep, sheeee-it)

    Deadlift
    40k X 5
    80k X 3
    90k X 1
    95k X 5 X 1 (set: Had to swap to a mixed grip after two reps and it felt a lot better, looking forward to 100k next Monday)

    I'd really like to see more gains on my upper body lifts. I'd also like to shed the layer of blub I have around my lower mid section. Ah well, good things come to those who lift. Oh, and eat properly I guess.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    16th Workout 20th Nov

    Squats
    20k X 5
    40k X 3
    60k X 2
    80k X 1
    87.5k X 2 (Not a chance)
    85k X 5 X 3 (set: had a brainwave to do 'ass to grass' on my warm ups, felt OK getting up from 60k, 70k was tough. When I tried a slightly below parallel on 87.5k I realized I was in trouble. Need to be careful with my form at these now, don't want to do my back in!)

    Bench Press
    20k X 5
    30k X 3
    40k X 2
    50k X 1
    52.5k X 5 X 1 (set: thank God I got these out, definitely getting stronger albeit annoyingly slowly)

    Power Cleans
    30k X 5
    40k X 5
    50k X 3 X 5 (set: I feel my form is getting better on these the heavier it gets. It's getting that heavy that it's like i have to jump a bit to get the bar to my chest. Gets the heart going which feels good)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Usual 35k cycle to and from work, nice hailstones on way home.

    Bodyweight 86.6k.

    Squats
    20k X 5
    40k X 3
    60k X 2
    80k X 1
    87.5k X 5 X 3 (set: >BW, whoop whoop! Felt good. Went up to the bar all aggro, bounced it up and down a bit on my shoulders, strangely, I think this helped.)

    OH Press
    20k X 5
    25k X 3
    30k X 3
    35k X 5 X 3 (Yeeehaaaa: Oh wait, it's only 35k)

    Deadlift
    40k X 5
    80k X 3
    90k X 1
    100k X 5 X 1 (set: Jaysus, alright I suppose. Tough on my girly hands ;))


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    18th Workout 24th Nov (last weeks should have read 17th)

    Squats
    20k X 5
    40k X 3
    60k X 2
    80k X 1
    90k X 2 (set: OK, might be radical and try 95k Friday)

    Bench Press
    20k X 5
    30k X 3
    40k X 2
    50k X 1
    55k X 5 X 1 (NOOooo)
    52.5k X 5 X 1 (can't...dooo...it)
    50k X 5 X 1 (for feck sake)
    (I did 52.5kX5X3 not 5X1 on last bench, not too difficult either)

    Power Cleans
    30k X 5
    40k X 5
    55k X 3 X 5 (set: added 5k instead of 2.5k, felt heavy but 0K)

    Felt weak on the Bench tonight. My diet has been a bit sh!t this last week, so I'm blaming that.
    Ordered Protein & Creatine tonight from discountsuppliments.co.uk.
    Upper body progress a bit embarressing tbh :mad:
    Must try harder to keep my diet better dag nabbit.

    On a different note, looking at that budget I don't think I will be able to afford gym membership for the next 4 yrs :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Squats
    20k X 5
    40k X 3
    60k X 2
    80k X 1
    92.5k X 5 X 3 (set: stuck with 2.5k increase on last week)

    OH Press
    20k X 5
    25k X 3
    30k X 3
    37.5k X 4 (Felt very heavy)
    30k X 5 X 2 (just for the sake of completing the 3 sets)

    Deadlift
    60k X 5
    80k X 3
    90k X 1
    Have a bit of a pain in my lower back so I just left these as they were quite sore.

    Felt like a bit of a disaster this morning. I had a hangover and it just felt wrong from the start. Those OH Press things are the bane of my life, well, my time in the gym anyway.
    Hopefully a bit of a rest will sort my back out before the next deadlifts
    Need to get to my target weights for all lifts and then start doing other lifts or isolation work, something else. It's getting a bit like I'm just going through the motions now, although I am still hungover.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭mrpink6789


    Yeah defo don't be doing lifts hungover, I realised Heineken isn't good fuel for Stronglifts!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Squats
    20k X 5
    40k X 3
    60k X 2
    80k X 1
    95k X 5 X 3 (set: OK)
    I'm doing full deep squats in my warm ups fo 20, 40 & 60K, cant get back up heavier than 60 though. It would be cool if I could get right down (more importantly, back up) for my work sets.
    Think I'll work on the weight I can full squat as well as adding to my parallel work set.

    Bench Press
    20k X 5
    30k X 3
    40k X 2
    50k X 1
    55k X 5 X 2 (Better than last Wednesdays effort)
    52.5k X 5 X 1
    Getting stronger on these, slowly. I think 2.5k increments might be too much to add for me on the bench and OH Press. Might just add 1.25 to the bar after I get 55kx5x3

    Power Cleans
    30k X 5
    40k X 5
    57.5k X 3 X 1 (set: Ugh)
    55k X 3 X 1 (sudden rush of blood to the head)
    50K X 3 X 1 (Sheeee-it)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Didn't make it down to the Gym last night due to the snow. I think they were closed anyway, they weren't answering the phone.
    I'm meant to be going away for the weekend so if the flights aren't cancelled I'll miss tomorrows session too.

    Exercise wise I built a snowman and shovelled a load of ice & snow from the driveway, the aul shovellin is tough work!

    Bit of pointless entry I know but need to keep some kind of consistency.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Day 21, 6th Dec

    First time back since last Monday.

    Parallel Squats
    20k X 5
    40k X 3
    60k X 2
    90k X 1
    97.5k X 5

    Full Squats
    20k X 5
    40k X 3
    60k X 5 X 3 (set: I'm just going to do full squats from now on, with a low bar postion like the first image in fig. 2 in this pdf. Full squats are the way forward, my hamstrings are sore for a change. Hopefully I can get to 100k full squats in Jan. Will try adding 5k Wed.


    OH Press
    20k X 5
    25k X 3
    30k X 3
    37.5k X 5 Maybe Friday I'll get the 3 sets.
    35k X 5
    30k X 5


    Deadlift
    60k X 5
    80k X 3
    90k X 1
    100k No way!
    90k x 5 Lost a bit of strenght on these, I'm still a bit apprehensive about my back tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    lastlaugh wrote: »

    Full Squats
    20k X 5
    40k X 3
    60k X 5 X 3 (set: I'm just going to do full squats from now on, with a low bar postion like the first image in fig. 2 in this pdf.

    I'm not sure that is a good idea.
    There is a reason that Olympic weightlifters use the highbar position for the back squat.
    If you look at that fig 2, the lifter doing the Olympic squat is clearly carrying the bar in the High Bar position and this holds the bar in line with the middle of the foot (i.e. in balance)

    If you compare that to the picture of the guy doing the Low Bar squat (to just below parallel) He is clearly in the low bar position.

    Compare the two. You want to imagine the bar position of the first guy on the second guy. The bar will be behind the line traced vertical from the middle of the foot. Ergo inherently out of balance.

    I would Imagine:
    You will fall backwards if you keep the low bar in a full squat position.

    Or really mess up your arms because they will be supporting the bar rather than your back supporting it. And still loose it cos your arms/shoulders can't support the load in that position.

    Or you will need to flex (bend) your back to maintain balance.
    Which will mess up your back.


    I'm not saying don't do Full Squats mind.
    You should probably get Starting Strength too as this is more or less explained.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    I'm not sure that is a good idea.
    There is a reason that Olympic weightlifters use the highbar position for the back squat.
    If you look at that fig 2, the lifter doing the Olympic squat is clearly carrying the bar in the High Bar position and this holds the bar in line with the middle of the foot (i.e. in balance)

    If you compare that to the picture of the guy doing the Low Bar squat (to just below parallel) He is clearly in the low bar position.

    Yeah, I see what you mean. Looking at it again, I'll be assuming the second position, high bar and right down. Thanks for pointing that out.
    I was doing those last night and my legs are sore, especially my hams. I'm not complaining though.
    d'Oracle wrote: »
    I'm not saying don't do Full Squats mind.
    You should probably get Starting Strength too as this is more or less explained.

    I'm a bit of a cheap skate these days so I don't think I'll get the book! Once I hit some of my goals I'll start trying some isolation work in the new year, I'll keep with the squats, deads, bench & OH press though.
    Some good stuff in that 'perfect programme' thread that I might use.
    A bastardised Starting Strenght with bells on.

    Cheers for the advice.


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