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N72 Mallow Racecourse to Sugar Factory and Lombardstown

  • 17-10-2010 12:39am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭


    Anyone know what roadworks are starting ?

    PLEASE tell me they arent just going to re-surface and are actually going to widen this section at alast.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭busman


    I read somewhere that it will be closed for a week in November!
    I'm sure that it will be only the surface that they are doing.
    Hope it's a contractor and not the council!

    Don't know what way the diversion will be but I'm guessing thru' Lombardstown.

    Waste of time if you ask me, look at "new" bit that they done a few years back to the Lombardstown junction, how long did it take? 10 years! And then the surface was very very poor and bumpy when they finished and broke up bad last winter.

    I've just accept now that North Cork will continue to have bad roads!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    a week means a patch job...this section is on the Garda black spot list and deserves doing properly..


    Divert from the Mallow railway bridge via Ballyclogh to come back out at the Lombardstown cross (or the Longueville cross OR Ballymacquirke via Kanturk)Lots of options in addition to via the Sugar Factory (that isnt there any more) and Lombardstown .

    I fully agree with you about the last jimcrack job the Council did, a scandalous effort at roadmaking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    The council wont be doing it. It will be either Whelans or Lagans. Whelans done the piece at lombardstown junction. I cant see how the road will be closed though..You cannot be sending HGV`S on these routes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭busman


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    The council wont be doing it. It will be either Whelans or Lagans. Whelans done the piece at lombardstown junction. I cant see how the road will be closed though..You cannot be sending HGV`S on these routes.

    Saw a piece on the front of the Mallow Star in the chipper tonight about the local councilors given out that the owner of the Racecourse Petrol station might be put out of business because the the road will be closed for a week. The are going to contact the NRA!

    Whoever done the line painting at Lombardstown aren't much better that the council! Don't they know what the difference is between broken yellow and white lines? I'll see if I can get a picture in the next day or so ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    section being dealt with seems to be the bit from the Sugar factory junction to the Longueville House junction, which is VERY bumpy (so bad that the rear quarter light of my Taunus Coupe fell out here a couple of months ago and was a hell of a job to get a replacement)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭busman


    corktina wrote: »
    section being dealt with seems to be the bit from the Sugar factory junction to the Longueville House junction, which is VERY bumpy (so bad that the rear quarter light of my Taunus Coupe fell out here a couple of months ago and was a hell of a job to get a replacement)

    Wounder if they going to do the narrow bit from the junction back towards the racecourse. Its just as bad!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    it doesnt look like it judging by the positioning of the speed limit signs etc...unless thats what the weeks closure is for next month? doent seem long enough time to do the job to me though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭busman


    corktina wrote: »
    it doesnt look like it judging by the positioning of the speed limit signs etc...unless thats what the weeks closure is for next month? doent seem long enough time to do the job to me though.

    Was passing by tonight and they have "scraped" the sides of the road narrow bit of the road so looks like only a resurface from the petrol station to the Longville junction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    It looks that way....:(:mad:

    IIRC they "took" land to widen this section years ago but it never was fenced so I doubted they would be widening it. This strip of land is now heavily overgrown with Salix (oh alright Sallies for you Corkmen:D)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    John A woods have the contract. The Mitchelstown road is closed until the 6th of November. They have resurfaced a nice bit of it in fairness. I travelled it this evening.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    Lagan have the contract for the racecourse bit....closed from monday for a week with diversions via the sugar factiory road.Looks like its just a resurface with no widening.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    John A woods have the contract. The Mitchelstown road is closed until the 6th of November. They have resurfaced a nice bit of it in fairness. I travelled it this evening.

    Best option with this section (unless you are in a truck) is to ignore the signs heading towards Mallow and cut off a bit further on following the Killavullen signs, takes you down to the N72 and must be much quicker than via Doneraille


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    N72 will be closed for 3 days. The N73 will be finished saturday so I am told. I think the N72 will be longer judging by the progress they made today....:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    if they arent widening that N72 section, it would be as well not to do too much as it is already on the Garda Black List and would be lethal if people thought they could drive at full speed on it


    (I think we should have our own section on boards for North Cork roads :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭busman


    Looks like they are packing up for this year!
    Yesterday they painted white lines on the part thats not finished from the Longfield bridge junction to the Longueville junction :-(
    Guess the weather got the best of them!

    Also they have put done one layer on the hard-shoulder out to the Longueville Lock. Wonder if this is as far as they are going?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    yep a very shaky solid white line applied that surely must be temporary.
    The markers at the side of the road only go as far as the lock so Im assuming thats the lot although the next section is of course only a few years old and has never been right (CCC did that bit of course which explains that (and it took them several YEARS to do it!)

    Im intersted to see how they lay aout the junction at Longueville and at the sugar factory. The arrows they have applied dont fill you with confidence at this time.The Sugar Factory junction was very badly laid out before,for anyone heading east and turning right...you risked a punt up the back and everyone passsed cars waiting to turn by infringing on the yellow cross hatched section on the left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭busman


    corktina wrote: »
    yep a very shaky solid white line applied that surely must be temporary.
    The markers at the side of the road only go as far as the lock so Im assuming thats the lot although the next section is of course only a few years old and has never been right (CCC did that bit of course which explains that (and it took them several YEARS to do it!)

    Several Years? I'm sure it was Decades ;)
    Was very disappointing that the surface was sooooo bad when they finally finished. Not sure what the problem was but looked like there was an overlap at regular distances about every 50 yards. Always a "thump-thump-thump" Then the frost last year caused the overlaps to breakup!!!
    Then the "Patched" them with their spray-on wagon .... ahhhhh
    corktina wrote: »
    Im intersted to see how they lay aout the junction at Longueville and at the sugar factory. The arrows they have applied dont fill you with confidence at this time.The Sugar Factory junction was very badly laid out before,for anyone heading east and turning right...you risked a punt up the back and everyone passsed cars waiting to turn by infringing on the yellow cross hatched section on the left.

    It looks like they have widened the shoulder at Longueville but I know what you are saying at the sugar factory junction, had a few near misses there myself!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    They couldnt be finished it. I passed there yesterday and I see the white line. The beet factory and longueville junction are totally unfinished. You must now STOP coming up to those junctions with the cones. Those cones are a pain especially if you have a nervous driver in front of you. They slow down to 50kph..:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    The County Engineer (or some guy...:D) was on the radio at the time about that section explaining what went wrong with it...but they did nothing to correct it....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    corktina wrote: »
    The County Engineer (or some guy...:D) was on the radio at the time about that section explaining what went wrong with it...but they did nothing to correct it....

    Thats right Aidan Weir. Its amazing actually Whelans were supplying Tarmac and stone to the council which is a goverment department yet they hadnt paid a cent in tax or filed accounts since 2007. These people in these jobs are supposed to be highly educated...:rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    they did slightly widen the narrow section near the service station BTW....they filled the margins with stone creating some bit of a hard shoulder, but have now dug drainage channels though it, creating a trap for the unwary who might pull off in an emergency. The road here has been raised up as well, but did they put in any extra drainage to carry flood water under the road from the old canal?....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭busman


    corktina wrote: »
    . The road here has been raised up as well, but did they put in any extra drainage to carry flood water under the road from the old canal?....

    I think that they put a culvert under the road at the service station last year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    I emailed the NRA and here is the reply. Dont mind all the email I got a bit thick and had a bit of a rant...:D:D

    Dear Mr. zxgtyhjkotbbwy,
    I have received correspondence from yourself via the NRA Head Office regarding road works on the N72 near Mallow. I’m not quite sure what information you are seeking because your email starts with road works on the N72, then on to Whelans and tax issues, Fianna Fail, disbanding the NRA and about going out to work for a living. It’s a bit all over the place! Perhaps it’s just a rant!
    With regard to the road works on the N72 near Mallow, the works have not been completed due to the very inclement weather which we have been getting over the last three weeks or so. The very low temperatures and subsequent frosty weather has made it impossible to complete the works. This is unfortunate but outside of our control. As soon as favourable weather returns, the works will be completed.
    If you have any other issues or questions on the road works taking place on the N72 near Mallow or if they are affecting you in any particular way, I would be only too delighted to help you.


    Regards

    Eoin McCarthy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    ha! he told you then! Serves you right for giving a Polish name....:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    no sign iof a re-start on this project yet... :-(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Sneakee


    It's getting to be a joke now, weather has been stable for the last 2 weeks, the 60km stretches for several miles, I'm not sure should I ignore that limit or not as you go beyond the Longueville junction. They would definately want to get up and going in the next week or two as the weather looks to be ok for now.
    When the works are done, will the 60km before the racecourse stay in place and if so how far up the road will it be imposed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭busman


    Sneakee wrote: »
    It's getting to be a joke now, weather has been stable for the last 2 weeks, the 60km stretches for several miles, I'm not sure should I ignore that limit or not as you go beyond the Longueville junction. They would definately want to get up and going in the next week or two as the weather looks to be ok for now.
    When the works are done, will the 60km before the racecourse stay in place and if so how far up the road will it be imposed?

    I would say that the 60kph speed restrictions are only as temporary as the road works!

    Having said that, a 80kph speed limit to the other side of the Longueville junction would not be too far out of place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    i dont think anyone is taking any notice of this stupid limit which IMHO does not have a legal basis anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    That limit is only there for when the boys are working. I was behind a fool this evening with no lights on doing 80kph. He stood on the brakes at the racecourse. I wasnt long dropping it a cog,he started blowing the horn then. I will email that dude again.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    had the same coming the other way today! Someone stood on the brakes at the "ramp"...nice L plate on the back window and empty passenger seat....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    signs of life today....surveyers from Lagan out and about and two machines have turned up///

    on the debnit side, I notice the new surface near the service station seems to be breaking up ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    work in full swing again today.....at last...


    incidently I see the "new" petrol station at Roskeen has shut down again "for refurbishment"...any idea what the stroy is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭busman


    corktina wrote: »
    signs of life today....surveyers from Lagan out and about and two machines have turned up///

    on the debnit side, I notice the new surface near the service station seems to be breaking up ...

    Glade that work is back on track!
    Noticed that patch as well!

    Got a letter in the post today from Noel O'Flynn TD telling us about the good news that the NRA has made available 600k for the resurfacing of the road from Lombardstown to Longville!

    He's delighted and hopes that his representation to the department were of help to me!

    Oh, and that he would be grateful of any support I might be able to extend to him in the upcoming general election. :D

    bahhhhhh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    thats the bit the council cocked up when they built it only a couple of years ago! Someone should get the scak there

    btw any idea what the concrete thing they are building at the side of the road by Roskeen Motors is?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    corktina wrote: »
    thats the bit the council cocked up when they built it only a couple of years ago! Someone should get the scak there

    btw any idea what the concrete thing they are building at the side of the road by Roskeen Motors is?

    Thats a water station. There is a new water mains going from Roskeen almost to Castlemagner. It goes down the by road that joins the Lombardstown-Cecilstown road again.

    Great to hear that they are resurfacing the entire road.:) That will be a invitation to drive faster on a silk road even though its marked down as an area for the speed camera van.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    fierce work going on today...serious resurfacing just out side the speed limit at the Mallow end, they have the section by the Racecourse service staion planed off again and Roadstone are surveying just west of the resurfaced section.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    I notice they have laid an area next to the hard shoulder between Longueville and the sugar factory turning (east bound) with odd markings. I assume thats for a safety camera van (theres a second one with no markings nearby too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    I am just home and I was sitting at the racecourse for 15 mins. They are digging up the tarmac laid at xmas at the filling station.

    Gatso van in Mallow as well on the Killarney road before end of speed limit..:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    Work has staterd on the next section by the Waterloo Stud .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    corktina wrote: »
    Work has staterd on the next section by the Waterloo Stud .

    I see that, I met you west of Roskeen yesterday evening..:)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭sh1tstirrer


    While they are at it they should take down that bloody sign at the Lombardstown junction or at least make it visible at night :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    While they are at it they should take down that bloody sign at the Lombardstown junction or at least make it visible at night :mad:

    Is that the big NDP one thats there since the road was widened??. Its very blind when coming up that side road.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭sh1tstirrer


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    Is that the big NDP one thats there since the road was widened??. Its very blind when coming up that side road.
    It's in the middle of the Lombardstown road junction. If you are coming from the Killarney side and turning for Lombardstown at night it is impossible to see it. If you didn't know it was there you could easily hit it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    I see that, I met you west of Roskeen yesterday evening..:)

    Mrs Corktina maybe unless I was in the Sierra.

    edit...nope was me alright...had a late pass


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    It's in the middle of the Lombardstown road junction. If you are coming from the Killarney side and turning for Lombardstown at night it is impossible to see it. If you didn't know it was there you could easily hit it.

    Oh yes I have you now... There is similar ones further west at Ballymaquirk cross. I have seen them flattened many a sunday morning....:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    according to the elctronic display, these road works will go right through to Biddys Green (Knaturk turnoff) and will last to the end of december.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    corktina wrote: »
    according to the elctronic display, these road works will go right through to Biddys Green (Knaturk turnoff) and will last to the end of december.

    Thats if they get no frost or cold weather. I thought they were only going to Lombardstown..

    I was going to Cork this morning and I passed there at 7.45 roughly and they were stopping traffic at that time..:rolleyes: There was no work going on at all.. I think they like the thought of seeing cars lined up..:(

    Also they are removing/realigning the bend at the sandpit house further west.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    i thought it was to Lombardstown only too, hence the renamimg of this thread! But Biddys Green it says so we'll see. That section is in good order so must be resurfacing only surely?

    That speed limit only goes as far as Lobardstown , so I would have thought thats the end of it.

    BTW, crazy crazy speed limit! Actually starts a good half mile into the bit they've already done! Noone is taking any notice of it anyway. Why do they need "permanent" limits nowadays? surely unecessary at night and when and where no work is taking place! Id slow down without it for workers safety anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    I heard from a good source today they are going to Billys green allright. The speed limit is a pure pain. I heard the guards cleared the go safe van from the racecourse earlier in the year, he was catching people in the 60KPH zone when the works were finished..:rolleyes:

    The stretch from Lombardstown is in fairly good shape in fairness, if they went further west it would be better as the road is very rough.

    Also Forge cross is being staggered which is no harm.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    wheres Forge cross?


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