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In love with a gay girl...

  • 10-10-2010 6:51pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭


    Just moved abroad on my own and met this girl who also had moved abroad on her own. Being hanging out 3/4 times and getting on famously well - i was thinking about marrying her! Slight exaggeration but i was thrilled to have met her. Had not being that comfortable with a girl in 7/8 years.

    Then we are out Friday night and she just drops into conversation that she is gay - heartbroken. Kept feigning getting phone calls for the next two hours just to deal with news. Surprised she didn't me this news earlier - think it might be due to one of two reasons

    (1) Not that comfortable with being gay

    (2) Might have known i liked and thought i would abandon her as a buddy as i knew things were never going to develop (this thought did cross my mind when she told me - was contemplating just calling it an early night and going home)

    Anyone being in a similar situation? Any point in me continuing to hang out with her? I'd hate to abandon her, but this could wreck my hea hanging out with her! I did meet her yesterday again to hang out and we had a great time. This is great for her as she has just made a new buddy, but not so good for me!

    Anyone got any thoughts on the above situation? Not sure what im looking to hear really but im frustrated, abroad alone and can't really talk to anyone about it. I have friends here but im not sure my new found love would appreciate me telling them she is gay.

    She is perfect for me..besides being gay!!!!!!!!!!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    Thats a rather **** situation! Having been in something similar with a straight best friend, don't pursue it. Its kind of hard even to be friends tbh, but if you really like her as a friend then you can make it work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Zodiac2000


    I hear you, but i still really enjoy her company and would it not be cruel to simply cut someone out of your life due to the fact they are gay? Although its more to do with the fact she is gay and i have feelings for her.

    It's just got me thinking about being gay and what she may or may not have to go through. I could be wrong, but i get the feeling she is not super comfortable being gay. I'd love to know why it took her so long to tell me, although again of course she is hardly obliged to tell me her sexuality.

    She has just moved here on her own and it would be a nasty thing to just ignore her texts/phonecalls.

    Yesterday as i was getting dressed, i was thinking i better put on something nice as im meeting her. SURE OF COURSE IT DOESN'T FU*KING MATTER WHAT IM WEARING OR DOES MY HAIR LOOK COOL TODAY!! HAVE I GOT THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF GEL IN MY HAIR OR IS THAT TOO MUCH?! It never will matter.

    Already i kind of worried about her - is she ok being gay? Has she accepted it? Has she cried a lot over being gay? This shows i already care and tis ridiculous/pointless.

    Frustrated straight man!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    In all likelihood she's very comfortable in being gay and it simply slipped her mind to say it to you, or she just wanted to make sure you weren't a mega catholic who would try to kill her if she told you! :P

    I'm not saying don't be friends, if you can be friends BE FRIENDS! I just found it really difficult to stay friends with the girl I liked because not only was she not into me she was actually kind of scared of me when she found out I was gay (not that I liked her). Its just hard to be around someone you can't have,ever,no matter what you do. I still dress nice when I'm going to see her, even though it'd make a fat lot of difference!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    Zodiac2000 wrote:
    Surprised she didn't me this news earlier - think it might be due to one of two reasons

    (1) Not that comfortable with being gay

    (2) Might have known i liked and thought i would abandon her as a buddy as i knew things were never going to develop (this thought did cross my mind when she told me - was contemplating just calling it an early night and going home)

    Option 3) She's very comfortable with who she is and doesn't feel the need to preface every new friendship with "Hi I'm X and I'm a lesbian"

    My advice would be to treat it like instead of telling you that she's gay, she told you she's married, and her husband is back home. Would you still ditch her? It's pretty much the same situation, because she's just as unavailable. It sucks liking someone who's not into you, but if you like her as a person, then it'd be a bit silly to abandon what could be a fantastic friendship, really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Zodiac2000


    zoegh wrote: »
    Option 3) She's very comfortable with who she is and doesn't feel the need to preface every new friendship with "Hi I'm X and I'm a lesbian"

    My advice would be to treat it like instead of telling you that she's gay, she told you she's married, and her husband is back home. Would you still ditch her? It's pretty much the same situation, because she's just as unavailable. It sucks liking someone who's not into you, but if you like her as a person, then it'd be a bit silly to abandon what could be a fantastic friendship, really.

    I don't think it is option 3 as im just not sure she is comfortable with being gay. She said she is not comfortable being in gay pubs and also when she speaks of like falling in love and stuff, she always uses the word 'person' rather than 'girl'.

    Regarding the second paragraph if she was married i would be thinking there is 5% chance being totally honest with you - I'd probably be thinking maybe she might leave her husband and dream on like that. At least i'd have something to clutch onto. Her being gay really shuts the door!

    She just rang asking me to go out to the cinema tonight - big smile goes up on face, as obviously it's great this girl i like wants to see me for the fourth day in a row and wants to go to the cineam with me! Then i have to check myself again. I'd never hang out with a girl 4 days in a row - except for this one.

    Anyway i'll have to review this situation during the week - this might just be too tormenting but can't really be a prick and just start ignoring her either.AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Zodiac2000


    In all likelihood she's very comfortable in being gay and it simply slipped her mind to say it to you, or she just wanted to make sure you weren't a mega catholic who would try to kill her if she told you! :P

    I'm not saying don't be friends, if you can be friends BE FRIENDS! I just found it really difficult to stay friends with the girl I liked because not only was she not into me she was actually kind of scared of me when she found out I was gay (not that I liked her). Its just hard to be around someone you can't have,ever,no matter what you do. I still dress nice when I'm going to see her, even though it'd make a fat lot of difference!

    LOL.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    Strikes me that she may not be gay, and may have simply said so to ensure that you don't make a move and destroy a beautiful friendship, OP?
    In your position, I'd accept that she's off-limits romantically and move on, since either she is gay, or she's said so to put you off romantically. Either way, it's not going to happen.
    But if you wanted to be sure, you could ask her about her previous relationships and when she came out. It would be a difficult thing to lie convincingly about, I imagine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Zodiac2000


    Strikes me that she may not be gay, and may have simply said so to ensure that you don't make a move and destroy a beautiful friendship, OP?
    In your position, I'd accept that she's off-limits romantically and move on, since either she is gay, or she's said so to put you off romantically. Either way, it's not going to happen.
    But if you wanted to be sure, you could ask her about her previous relationships and when she came out. It would be a difficult thing to lie convincingly about, I imagine.

    Cheers! No she's definitely gay all right. I just get the feeling she is not comfortable with talking about it - that's her own business anyway. I'd never ask her about coming out or previous relationship, due to the fact that is her business and when or if she ever wants to tell me, she can.

    Moving on is easier said than done. Can't just ignore her - you must also bear in mind she has just moved to new country on her own and it would be pretty bad form to end friendship. Plus i enjoy her company too. I wouldn't hang out with my best mate of 15 years as much as I'd hang out with her - this is very strange for me! I was thinking before she broke the news 'I can't believe I've moved to new country and met someone like this so soon, this is incredible'.

    Anyway I'll have to think more about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    Then you'll just have to bury all romantic thoughts about her and treat her as a friend from now on.
    Otherwise, you'll have heartache ahead when she finds a partner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭electrobi


    Zodiac2000 wrote: »
    I don't think it is option 3 as im just not sure she is comfortable with being gay. She said she is not comfortable being in gay pubs

    Regarding the second paragraph if she was married i would be thinking there is 5% chance being totally honest with you ![/QUOTE]


    That's because gay bars are ****!

    If there's one thing that irks me it's someone who will be a "friend" if there's a chance of more, but not a friend otherwise. It's just opportunist and frankly egotistical. Maybe if she was straight and married you *would* hang around but she might still shoot you down. She'd be right too. It seems to me she needs a friend and she seems to think shes found one in you.

    Sorry if I appear harsh but that's how I see it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Zodiac2000


    electrobi wrote: »
    Zodiac2000 wrote: »
    I don't think it is option 3 as im just not sure she is comfortable with being gay. She said she is not comfortable being in gay pubs

    Regarding the second paragraph if she was married i would be thinking there is 5% chance being totally honest with you ![/QUOTE]


    That's because gay bars are ****!

    If there's one thing that irks me it's someone who will be a "friend" if there's a chance of more, but not a friend otherwise. It's just opportunist and frankly egotistical. Maybe if she was straight and married you *would* hang around but she might still shoot you down. She'd be right too. It seems to me she needs a friend and she seems to think shes found one in you.

    Sorry if I appear harsh but that's how I see it.

    The fact that she used the word 'uncomfortable' suggested it was more to do with her own comfortability being gay. Otherwise i feel she would have suggested they were crap, sh*t, etc.

    Second paragraph is harsh! She has found a friend in me - its just on a personal level i might find it hard to continue being friends - i don't think that is being egotistical - i can't help it if i met this really cool girl that i like to hang out with - it happens bloody rarely so that is why im frustrated. Also your correct - if she was straight no guarantees anything would happen but at least there would be 5% chance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Zodiac2000


    Then you'll just have to bury all romantic thoughts about her and treat her as a friend from now on.
    Otherwise, you'll have heartache ahead when she finds a partner.

    Spot on - feel if i continue to hang out with her im only setting myself up for a fall. No doubt she will find a partner soon, suddenly we won't hang out that much and i will be on the sidelines like a fool!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    Be a friend to her but don't forget about your own needs though so that when she finds someone you will already have found someone or will be well on the way to finding someone special. It may not be easy though as it is clear that you already love this girl in a way she can't reciprocate.

    If you want her friendship then you will have to work very hard to keep your emotions in check otherwise just end the friendship saying that you can't continue because of the feelings you have for her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 401 ✭✭Dwn Wth Vwls


    Have you considered telling her? Not so much the wanting to marry her part, but just that before she told you, you were developing a crush on her. Yes, it might make things a little bit awkward at first, but I think overall it will make things easier. It's very sobering to have someone tell you to your face that they will never be interested in you. She'll also understand why you're being awkward around her, because at the moment she might think it's because you're homophobic. You both need a friend, and your feelings are probably temporary, so it's a pity to ruin something that would benefit you both.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,617 Mod ✭✭✭✭dory


    I always use 'person' instead of girl too. It's just force of habit from being closeted for so long. Why does her being comfortable or not make a difference? You think if she's not then she might eventually like you? I'm not too comfortable in gay bars either. Still 100% gay.

    And as for why she waited, I never tell people in the first few meetings. Don't know why. If they don't tell me they have a girlfriend/boyfriend then it's fairly strange just dropping it in. I did a few times and they were like...."ok....and?" Suddenly they think it's all you are if you mentioned it so fast!


    Seems like this will not end well for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Zodiac2000


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    Be a friend to her but don't forget about your own needs though so that when she finds someone you will already have found someone or will be well on the way to finding someone special. It may not be easy though as it is clear that you already love this girl in a way she can't reciprocate.

    If you want her friendship then you will have to work very hard to keep your emotions in check otherwise just end the friendship saying that you can't continue because of the feelings you have for her.

    Exactly - i need to take care of my own needs too. However i know what is going to happen - i will just compare every girl i meet to her - shes not as funny as Jenny, shes not as pretty as jenny, etc. Therefore i will not really be interested in them. Also i would rarely meet a girl that i could hang out with as much as Jenny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Zodiac2000


    dory wrote: »
    I always use 'person' instead of girl too. It's just force of habit from being closeted for so long. Why does her being comfortable or not make a difference? You think if she's not then she might eventually like you? I'm not too comfortable in gay bars either. Still 100% gay.

    And as for why she waited, I never tell people in the first few meetings. Don't know why. If they don't tell me they have a girlfriend/boyfriend then it's fairly strange just dropping it in. I did a few times and they were like...."ok....and?" Suddenly they think it's all you are if you mentioned it so fast!


    Seems like this will not end well for you.

    It doesn't make a difference at all - i was just speculating as to why it took her so long to tell me. Of course she is not obliged too, but we did hang out a fair bit and i did mention previous relationships - the natural thing would have being to throw it out there. She either aint that comfortable or else didn't want me to dump her as a friend because i'd be thinking there is no point to friendship now as obviously things ain't going to progress.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Zodiac2000


    Have you considered telling her? Not so much the wanting to marry her part, but just that before she told you, you were developing a crush on her. Yes, it might make things a little bit awkward at first, but I think overall it will make things easier. It's very sobering to have someone tell you to your face that they will never be interested in you. She'll also understand why you're being awkward around her, because at the moment she might think it's because you're homophobic. You both need a friend, and your feelings are probably temporary, so it's a pity to ruin something that would benefit you both.

    No, although you speak some wise words - pretty much what my Dad said - you could do with some friends in foreign country. TBH though im grand i pick up people easily enough really - I've done this whole being abroad alone malarky many times before - she has not.

    I really don't need her to tell me she ain't interested - i have fully accepted that. I am not being awkward at all - i can see us developing into Will and Grace TBH already. I need to meet someone else clearly but I'll just keep comparing them to Jenny I'd imagine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    Have you considered telling her? Not so much the wanting to marry her part, but just that before she told you, you were developing a crush on her. Yes, it might make things a little bit awkward at first, but I think overall it will make things easier. It's very sobering to have someone tell you to your face that they will never be interested in you. She'll also understand why you're being awkward around her, because at the moment she might think it's because you're homophobic. You both need a friend, and your feelings are probably temporary, so it's a pity to ruin something that would benefit you both.

    I'm legendary in my inability to discuss emotional matters with girls - but, that said, I think this is the best advice you've been given so far. She will probably have noticed that you are being awkward, she may well have noticed you swooning over her, she may well fear that her sexuality is pushing you away and you're too nice to say. She is who she is - once you get over that, it sounds to me like you've both got potentially excellent friends in each other.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭Revolution9


    Zodiac2000 wrote: »
    No, although you speak some wise words - pretty much what my Dad said - you could do with some friends in foreign country. TBH though im grand i pick up people easily enough really - I've done this whole being abroad alone malarky many times before - she has not.

    I really don't need her to tell me she ain't interested - i have fully accepted that. I am not being awkward at all - i can see us developing into Will and Grace TBH already. I need to meet someone else clearly but I'll just keep comparing them to Jenny I'd imagine.

    This thread is actually quite amusing, so no harm of that happening.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Zodiac2000


    Dilbert75 wrote: »
    I'm legendary in my inability to discuss emotional matters with girls - but, that said, I think this is the best advice you've been given so far. She will probably have noticed that you are being awkward, she may well have noticed you swooning over her, she may well fear that her sexuality is pushing you away and you're too nice to say. She is who she is - once you get over that, it sounds to me like you've both got potentially excellent friends in each other.

    I have not being one bit awkward with her, although the hour after she told me was quite comical - just kept on getting up from the table for pretend phonecalls. Looking back i feel a bit sorry for her - she clearly wasn't that comfortable telling me. I thought i was going to bolt though as i kind of wanted to be up early the next morning and i didn't think there would be much point in hanging about then!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Zodiac2000


    This thread is actually quite amusing, so no harm of that happening.

    Glad you find it amusing - i certainly don't!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭Revolution9


    Zodiac2000 wrote: »
    Glad you find it amusing - i certainly don't!

    Sorry, I just couldn't spurn the chance to slag off Will and Grace :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭electrobi


    Zodiac2000 wrote: »
    electrobi wrote: »

    The fact that she used the word 'uncomfortable' suggested it was more to do with her own comfortability being gay. Otherwise i feel she would have suggested they were crap, sh*t, etc.

    Second paragraph is harsh! She has found a friend in me - its just on a personal level i might find it hard to continue being friends - i don't think that is being egotistical - i can't help it if i met this really cool girl that i like to hang out with - it happens bloody rarely so that is why im frustrated. Also your correct - if she was straight no guarantees anything would happen but at least there would be 5% chance.

    I'm uncomfortable in gay bars. I'm not uncomfortable with a woman in my bed though. So understand there can be a difference.

    Having feelings for friends is hard. But again if you're a "friend" you'll tough it out. If you can't handle it and would rather spare your own feelings, cut your losses. The truth is often harsh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I fall into the uncomfortable category, people have reacted badly in the past to my telling them I am gay, therefore I have left it out of my work life and some friendship circles. Women can be very cruel, sometimes it seems that straight women think along these lines - gay male friend= fun, dramatic, shopping buddy. Gay female friend = disgusting, pervert, will try it on with me first chance they get. She obviously trusts you alot, maybe over time you can learn to accept the relationship as it is and be left with a really great friend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Zodiac2000


    electrobi wrote: »
    Zodiac2000 wrote: »

    I'm uncomfortable in gay bars. I'm not uncomfortable with a woman in my bed though. So understand there can be a difference.

    Having feelings for friends is hard. But again if you're a "friend" you'll tough it out. If you can't handle it and would rather spare your own feelings, cut your losses. The truth is often harsh.

    I get that - i just have a sneaky feeling she is not totally uncomfortable being gay - lets be honest - hardly the first gay person in the world not comfortable being gay - im hardly talking about something that is impossible! I believe there is a thread on this page about a girl hating being lesbien like!

    Anyway I'll have to wait and see.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭electrobi


    Zodiac2000 wrote: »
    electrobi wrote: »

    I get that - i just have a sneaky feeling she is not totally uncomfortable being gay - lets be honest - hardly the first gay person in the world not comfortable being gay - im hardly talking about something that is impossible! I believe there is a thread on this page about a girl hating being lesbien like!

    Anyway I'll have to wait and see.

    Fair enough. It's just the reasons you've given don't necessarily depict discomfort, and that's all we have to go on. It seems you only want to hear answers you want to hear so best pay attention to those ones instead eh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭electrobi


    ITT I come across as a "bitch".

    Welp.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Zodiac2000


    electrobi wrote: »
    Zodiac2000 wrote: »

    I'm uncomfortable in gay bars. I'm not uncomfortable with a woman in my bed though. So understand there can be a difference.

    Having feelings for friends is hard. But again if you're a "friend" you'll tough it out. If you can't handle it and would rather spare your own feelings, cut your losses. The truth is often harsh.
    electrobi wrote: »
    Zodiac2000 wrote: »

    Fair enough. It's just the reasons you've given don't necessarily depict discomfort, and that's all we have to go on. It seems you only want to hear answers you want to hear so best pay attention to those ones instead eh.

    Fair enough - maybe im not explaining it that well! Tis more of a vibe really and that can be hard to explain on a chat forum. Tis all bloody irrelevant anyway. She is 100% gay and that's the bottom line - her level of comfort with it has no bearing on me.

    Just need to decide what to do next!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Zodiac2000


    electrobi wrote: »
    ITT I come across as a "bitch".

    Welp.

    Huh???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    TBH, OP I'm not too sure what you're looking for here. You seem to be fixated that she's uncomfortable being gay- so what if she is? Doesn't mean that she's gonna turn around in a few weeks and fancy you, as hard as that is to hear.

    You do seem, and I echo a previous poster, to only want to hear things you want to hear, rather than stuff that might actually help. Arguing the toss about whether she's comfortable or not is pointless IMHO. That said, it sucks liking someone who can't like you back.

    I would be more concerned that you say you'll be unable to stop comparing her to other girls you might meet- that's not fair on them, on her, or you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Zodiac2000


    zoegh wrote: »
    TBH, OP I'm not too sure what you're looking for here. You seem to be fixated that she's uncomfortable being gay- so what if she is? Doesn't mean that she's gonna turn around in a few weeks and fancy you, as hard as that is to hear.

    You do seem, and I echo a previous poster, to only want to hear things you want to hear, rather than stuff that might actually help. Arguing the toss about whether she's comfortable or not is pointless IMHO. That said, it sucks liking someone who can't like you back.

    I would be more concerned that you say you'll be unable to stop comparing her to other girls you might meet- that's not fair on them, on her, or you.

    Yeah i think i made that point in my last post ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭azezil


    Zodiac2000 wrote: »
    Yeah i think i made that point in my last post ;)

    So what the hell is this thread about then? o_Ó *confused*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Zodiac2000


    azezil wrote: »
    So what the hell is this thread about then? o_Ó *confused*

    Just venting my frustration, wondering has anyone being in a similar situation (what did they do), looking for general thoughts/opinion's on how to best handle it, etc. I was also looking for perspective from people who are gay.

    Anyway i have enough to chew over from the thread i think.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    It is hard when someone you are attracted to doesn't feel the same way. It's the same for both gay and straight people alike. Just be friends with the girl as hard as it may be to accept.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Zodiac2000


    It is hard when someone you are attracted to doesn't feel the same way. It's the same for both gay and straight people alike. Just be friends with the girl as hard as it may be to accept.

    Pretty much - i just feel it is slightly different with her being gay. If i were to reject her friendship i feel it would nearly be anti - gay - i really think she would see it as me not willing to be friends with her as she is gay. I presume she has not deal with some type of discrimination before and if i were to reject her as a buddy, i feel that in a way would be adding to it.

    That is why i kept mentioning the fact she is uncomfortable with being gay - i don't want to add to that and reject her essentially due to her sexuality. Moves to new country, finds a good buddy and then he rejects her because of her sexuality - that is the she would look at it i think. I ain't on a moral crusade but it would just feel wrong. In a way i would be discriminating because if she told me she had a boyfriend back in Germany, i would defo hang about hoping and wishing..

    Anyway im going with your last sentence - going to stay friends with her, enjoy her company and keep my personal feelings in check.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    Zodiac2000 wrote: »
    I hear you, but i still really enjoy her company and would it not be cruel to simply cut someone out of your life due to the fact they are gay?

    That's not why you'd be cutting her out. The real reason you're cutting her out is because it can painful to be around someone you want when the feelings aren't mutual.

    If she was straight there's no guarantee she'd be interested, so her being gay is pretty irrelevant.

    If it happened to me I'd tell her I was mad about her so find it a bit hard to be normal firends. I did this once with a female friend, once you're up front they won't be angry and will understand.

    If she's as great as you make out you can be sure you're not the first lad to fall for her.
    She has just moved here on her own and it would be a nasty thing to just ignore her texts/phonecalls.

    Eh yes it would, why would you do that when you can just tell her the truth!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Zodiac2000


    That's not why you'd be cutting her out. The real reason you're cutting her out is because it can painful to be around someone you want when the feelings aren't mutual.

    If she was straight there's no guarantee she'd be interested, so her being gay is pretty irrelevant.

    If it happened to me I'd tell her I was mad about her so find it a bit hard to be normal firends. I did this once with a female friend, once you're up front they won't be angry and will understand.

    If she's as great as you make out you can be sure you're not the first lad to fall for her.



    Eh yes it would, why would you do that when you can just tell her the truth!

    Tis part of it though! I won't lie - if she had a boyfriend I'd have no dilemma about hanging about! Her sexuality just completely rules it out! Your right - even if she was straight there is no guarantee she would be interested.

    Anyway im still kicking it with her!

    Spent 14 sober hours with her on Wednesday and going mountain biking tomorrow for the day. You just had to be gay didn't you???!!!AHHHHHHHH!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    Am i the only one who finds it really really weird and slightly creepy that you'd be happy to 'hang around' and keep 'hoping and wishing' if she was straight? I find that really disrespectful and disturbing...

    Still, well done to you to keep hanging out with her as a friend. If I were you I'd still let her know, even in a jokey way, that you fancied her. Might make her more conscious of the little touches, etc that are often done naturally (I know I'm a very tactile person, all the time) but that might make it worse for you. Just a thought.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭electrobi


    zoegh wrote: »
    Am i the only one who finds it really really weird and slightly creepy that you'd be happy to 'hang around' and keep 'hoping and wishing' if she was straight? I find that really disrespectful and disturbing...

    I think it doesn't really matter what we think(as far as the OP is concerned) But I totally agree with you and find this entire thread pointless.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Zodiac2000


    zoegh wrote: »
    Am i the only one who finds it really really weird and slightly creepy that you'd be happy to 'hang around' and keep 'hoping and wishing' if she was straight? I find that really disrespectful and disturbing...

    Still, well done to you to keep hanging out with her as a friend. If I were you I'd still let her know, even in a jokey way, that you fancied her. Might make her more conscious of the little touches, etc that are often done naturally (I know I'm a very tactile person, all the time) but that might make it worse for you. Just a thought.

    How is it creepy love???!!You meet a girl, you like her and your desperate for something to happen - sure of course you hang around! That's life! In a perfect world it would not be so, but it is not a perfect world...

    Anyway its all over now thankfully! Didn't mention the whole i fancied her thing, but we discussed her sexuality and it is clear she is 100% comfortable being gay - she was only holding back im guessing due to the fact i presume she knew i fancied her. Anyway tis all out in the open, the elephant is out of the room and i myself feel a lot more comfortable now. In her own words "Im a big homo" have finally let me know nothing will be happening.

    I fell relatively great - its out there - we both nothing will ever happen and while she probably knows i had feelings for her, for my own pride she didn't mention them and there is no need to discuss them.

    Goodnight Amsterdam.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Zodiac2000


    electrobi wrote: »
    I think it doesn't really matter what we think(as far as the OP is concerned) But I totally agree with you and find this entire thread pointless.

    Yet you felt the need to add to it? Idiot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    How is it creepy love???!!You meet a girl, you like her and your desperate for something to happen - sure of course you hang around! That's life! In a perfect world it would not be so, but it is not a perfect world...

    Eh, because if you knew she was with someone else you'd be hanging around her hoping she gets her heart broken so you can swoop in, or because you arrogantly assume she'll 'come to her senses' and realise you're better than her current boyfriend? How would YOU feel if you were with someone and some random guy who fancied her wouldn't get the message and kept sniffing around?

    FFS, people boggle my mind.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    I'm starting to get the impression he was interested in turning a gay girl or some reassurance that there was a small glimmer of hope. I learnt that lesson a long time ago. Not happening!

    Straight Guy + Gay Girl = Permanent Friend Zone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    Zodiac2000 wrote: »
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    Yet you felt the need to add to it? Idiot.

    Infracted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭CluelessGirl


    Hey OP,

    I was that girl once.

    I had the most amazing friend anyone could ask for.... He was amazing. We did everything together.

    Everyone else saw that he was in love with me but I didn't even cop on!

    One day he turned around and said he was off abroad.....that was nearly 4 years ago.....we never kept in contact apart from the odd text.

    I was heart broken and still cry when I think of him.

    It was only recently that I was told he mainly left because of me.....his head was wrecked being around me and being in love and knowing that the feelings would never be reciprocated.

    I fully understand and I completely respect his decision not to be in contact. It hurts but that is life...I hope he is happy where he is and has met someone who makes him happy.

    But at the end of the day why wreck your own head.......she is who she is and will NEVER have those kind of feelings for you.....be honest and tell her how it is....you don't want to be some guy living in hope!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Zodiac2000


    Hey OP,

    I was that girl once.

    I had the most amazing friend anyone could ask for.... He was amazing. We did everything together.

    Everyone else saw that he was in love with me but I didn't even cop on!

    One day he turned around and said he was off abroad.....that was nearly 4 years ago.....we never kept in contact apart from the odd text.

    I was heart broken and still cry when I think of him.

    It was only recently that I was told he mainly left because of me.....his head was wrecked being around me and being in love and knowing that the feelings would never be reciprocated.

    I fully understand and I completely respect his decision not to be in contact. It hurts but that is life...I hope he is happy where he is and has met someone who makes him happy.

    But at the end of the day why wreck your own head.......she is who she is and will NEVER have those kind of feelings for you.....be honest and tell her how it is....you don't want to be some guy living in hope!

    Thanks for that story, although that sounds awful really!

    We seem to be hanging out 24/7 and I've never being so comfortable with a girl.

    Anyway im cool with it now - we discussed her sexuality more in depth ydy (without mentioning my feelings) and tis all out in the open now. Feel much relaxed now and i think she does now. Im 90% sure she knows i had feelings for her (I'd say she has gone thru this a few times before) and i think she was a bit uptight but now we are all chilled.

    I do wonder about the future (how will i ever meet a girl like her that i could be so comfortable with) but for now im just going to live in the present.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭CluelessGirl


    It can be hard to keep feelings in check so the more you get to know her you may grow deeper in love but at least now you are aware of the consequences.

    Yes my story sucks but it was a case of not being able to keep feelings and emotions intact and then having to react by cutting all ties.

    I have been told that I too would make the best girlfriend ever, many guys are comfortable in my company but I am also certain that if I was straight that they wouldn't say that....they see me as one of the guys although I am a femme gay girl.....they feel like they are not being judge and can totally be themselves!

    From the gay perspective it is something that does intrigue me about guys and gay girls being friends.......I'm not certain if it is possible.....I'm struggling to explain my thoughts.......

    Just beware of your feelings and if they do get stronger and you respect her tell her about them...communication is key I guess.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Zodiac2000


    It can be hard to keep feelings in check so the more you get to know her you may grow deeper in love but at least now you are aware of the consequences.

    Yes my story sucks but it was a case of not being able to keep feelings and emotions intact and then having to react by cutting all ties.

    I have been told that I too would make the best girlfriend ever, many guys are comfortable in my company but I am also certain that if I was straight that they wouldn't say that....they see me as one of the guys although I am a femme gay girl.....they feel like they are not being judge and can totally be themselves!

    From the gay perspective it is something that does intrigue me about guys and gay girls being friends.......I'm not certain if it is possible.....I'm struggling to explain my thoughts.......

    Just beware of your feelings and if they do get stronger and you respect her tell her about them...communication is key I guess.

    You sound exactly like her! She loves sport, enjoys taking the p*ss, etc, yet she is still very girly looking. I just had visions of us sitting down watching football, having a beer and being a couple! Era it just had to be to good to be true really!

    Anyway i agree with everything you say- i do need to be careful but im glad we had that chat ydy. Got to the stage where i said "we can just go chasing birds together". She likes the same type of girls too - small, cute, homely looking and straight! Apparently her last two girlfriends were straight but she kind of turned them!!

    I think we can be friends though - it might help if she got a bit uglier though and wasn't so damn pretty!!!

    Cheers for the advice - i think your bang on with everything you said.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭Sorry


    Zodiac2000 wrote: »

    I think we can be friends though - it might help if she got a bit uglier though and wasn't so damn pretty!!!

    Help what, your ego?


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