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Fights in Niteclubs...

  • 04-10-2010 6:10pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭


    So me and the gang were in Alchemy on saturday nite and out of all the times we've been there there have never been fights.... But on this particular nite there were 3 seperate incidents.
    I know that people have rows and get angry but I could never figure out why people bother to start throwin swings IN the club, anyone with a brain knows that its only gonna be a matter of seconds until the bouncers come over and either break it up and throw you out, or theyre gonna kick the crap out of you, depending on the bouncer. Just seems to me like it a complete waste of time and effort starting a fight in a club...

    Whats peoples opinions on this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭**Vai**


    One of the many reasons I dont go to clubs anymore! Have been hearing stories of girls getting smacked by lads in clubs over the past few weeks. Fairly disgusting stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭gary223


    Anyone who starts a fight in a nightclub is a trouble making knacker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭bluefinger


    So me and the gang were in Alchemy on saturday nite and out of all the times we've been there there have never been fights.... But on this particular nite there were 3 seperate incidents.
    I know that people have rows and get angry but I could never figure out why people bother to start throwin swings IN the club, anyone with a brain knows that its only gonna be a matter of seconds until the bouncers come over and either break it up and throw you out, or theyre gonna kick the crap out of you, depending on the bouncer. Just seems to me like it a complete waste of time and effort starting a fight in a club...

    Whats peoples opinions on this?

    solved


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,475 ✭✭✭bitemybanger


    Drink + testosterone = stupid people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Antomus Prime


    **Vai** wrote: »
    One of the many reasons I dont go to clubs anymore! Have been hearing stories of girls getting smacked by lads in clubs over the past few weeks. Fairly disgusting stuff.

    Only ever saw that once, and the guy throwing the punch regretted it fairly rapidly, a swarm of blokes jumped on him. I dont get it at all, it ruins loads of people nites cause theres always bystanders getting caught in the way, or in some cases the music gets turned off and it just puts people in a fowl mood.

    The crowd in Alchemy are usually grand and monitored very efficiantly by the security. But for some reason the place was full of scumbags on sat. Hopefully it wont be a recurring thing cause its a savage club!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Jagle


    work in a club for the last 2 years, only seen a fella hit a girl once, long time ago, your man was a mental tho and aparrently the girl egged him on, no ecvuse but i dont know of guys recently starting to hit girls on nights out, and yes starting a fight in a club is a very stupid thing as the bouncers will be there in seconds, but hey hasnt stopped me before haha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    gary223 wrote: »
    Anyone who starts a fight in a nightclub is a trouble making knacker.

    :eek:

    What?

    Barrel chested simian-like goon,shouldered me aside at the bar in a well known night club recently.

    Sharp elbow into the bridge of his nose dropped him in a bleeding heap sharpish.


    That doesn't make me a knacker friend?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭bluefinger


    :eek:

    What?

    Barrel chested simian-like goon,shouldered me aside at the bar in a well known night club recently.

    Sharp elbow into the bridge of his nose dropped him in a bleeding heap sharpish.


    That doesn't make me a knacker friend?

    more of a scumbag imo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Fites in Niteclubs?

    Fyffes in Nightclubs is more my scene.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Einstein


    :eek:

    What?

    Barrel chested simian-like goon,shouldered me aside at the bar in a well known night club recently.

    Sharp elbow into the bridge of his nose dropped him in a bleeding heap sharpish.


    That doesn't make me a knacker friend?
    Makes ye guilty of assault though...why bother lettin someone like that get to ye ? Laugh at him and let him be on his way. Far more important things to worry about...

    (that is of course if it actually happened)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,297 ✭✭✭Jaxxy


    A few of my friends were in Alchemy last Saturday night, they never mentioned any trouble though. I've never noticed anything getting out of hand in there myself, but do know that there have been dozens of complaints regarding their door policy over the last few weeks. Perhaps they took heed, relaxed the security and as a result there was a bit of hassle.

    Who knows. Sometimes these things just happen, it's usually just a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Einstein wrote: »
    Makes ye guilty of assault though...why bother lettin someone like that get to ye ? Laugh at him and let him be on his way. Far more important things to worry about...

    (that is of course if it actually happened)


    :confused:

    The Flutther tells it as it is pal.

    If you think that's fiction:fine by me.

    Good man yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Antomus Prime


    JaxxYChicK wrote: »
    A few of my friends were in Alchemy last Saturday night, they never mentioned any trouble though. I've never noticed anything getting out of hand in there myself, but do know that there have been dozens of complaints regarding their door policy over the last few weeks. Perhaps they took heed, relaxed the security and as a result there was a bit of hassle.

    Who knows. Sometimes these things just happen, it's usually just a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    I'd say they were probably told to let more people in to make more money and they result is scumbags!! As I said, hope its not a recurring thing


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,993 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    :eek:

    What?

    Barrel chested simian-like goon,shouldered me aside at the bar in a well known night club recently.

    Sharp elbow into the bridge of his nose dropped him in a bleeding heap sharpish.


    That doesn't make me a knacker friend?[/QUOTE]

    Fella bumped into you = you broke his nose.... over react much?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,116 ✭✭✭Professional Griefer


    Never been in a fight in one, but, I've been bottled in a night club though.

    And my brother got a hit off some lad who had brass knuckles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    :eek:

    What?

    Barrel chested simian-like goon,shouldered me aside at the bar in a well known night club recently.

    Sharp elbow into the bridge of his nose dropped him in a bleeding heap sharpish.


    That doesn't make me a knacker friend?[/QUOTE]

    Fella bumped into you = you broke his nose.... over react much?

    No no no... I said "shouldered me aside"...like dropped the shoulder and motored through me to the bar.

    Totally deliberate and calculated.

    Didn't know who he was dealing with, unfortunately for him.

    I am not generally an aggressive person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Einstein


    :confused:

    The Flutther tells it as it is pal.

    If you think that's fiction:fine by me.

    Good man yourself.

    Then the flutter is indeed a knacker.

    Assaulting people because they shoved past you is immature.

    Any respect I had for you and your posts in the 5 years I've been on this board has diminished in the space of 2 posts.

    Although I still don't really believe you did it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    :eek:

    What?

    Barrel chested simian-like goon,shouldered me aside at the bar in a well known night club recently.

    Sharp elbow into the bridge of his nose dropped him in a bleeding heap sharpish.


    That doesn't make me a knacker friend?

    I thought you were going to post about how you dropped a bomb into his pint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    :eek:

    What?

    Barrel chested simian-like goon,shouldered me aside at the bar in a well known night club recently.

    Sharp elbow into the bridge of his nose dropped him in a bleeding heap sharpish.


    That doesn't make me a knacker friend?

    Thats pretty scummy tbh..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭saywhatyousee


    i agree op fighting inside nightclubs is stupid.
    most nightclubs are decked out in cctv,so your chances of gettiing caught are high.
    fight outside the nightclub thats where it's at!!;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Antomus Prime


    i agree op fighting inside nightclubs is stupid.
    most nightclubs are decked out in cctv,so your chances of gettiing caught are high.
    fight outside the nightclub thats where it's at!!;)

    Personally I wouldnt even bother outside the club, firstly because the chances are i'm gonna be hammered, and also god knows how many people could show up if you did decide to "take it outside"

    Best off to just walk away and not let a good nite out be ruined


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Einstein wrote: »
    Then the flutter is indeed a knacker.

    Assaulting people because they shoved past you is immature.

    Any respect I had for you and your posts in the 5 years I've been on this board has diminished in the space of 2 posts.

    Although I still don't really believe you did it.


    Look I respect your opinion,but this dude didn't just 'shove past'.Far from it.

    Deliberately dropped the shoulder into the back of the Flutt, who was holding a pint of Stella,which ended on the floor.

    Now I was fairly kettled, but do not use that as an excuse.

    Just saying what happened.It was an instinctive reaction.


    I would never start a fight just for the fun of it.

    Never.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭RoundyMooney


    Sorry, FB. One doesn't use a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

    It's especially silly in a club where said simian goon may have many onlooking friends.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Antomus Prime


    :eek:

    What?

    Barrel chested simian-like goon,shouldered me aside at the bar in a well known night club recently.

    Sharp elbow into the bridge of his nose dropped him in a bleeding heap sharpish.


    That doesn't make me a knacker friend?

    Maybe the guy did deserve a reaction but i think YOUR reaction was well overboard, but at the end of the day i wasnt there so i cant really judge, i can just give my opinion on what is read here.

    I'd never do anything in a niteclub that will draw bad attention for the security, even if someone deserved a smack or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Einstein


    Look I respect your opinion,but this dude didn't just 'shove past'.Far from it.

    Deliberately dropped the shoulder into the back of the Flutt, who was holding a pint of Stella,which ended on the floor.

    Now I was fairly kettled, but do not use that as an excuse.

    Just saying what happened.It was an instinctive reaction.


    I would never start a fight just for the fun of it.

    Never.
    Everything can appear deliberate when kettled.

    No chance the guy slipped, or tripped, or was fairly "kettled" himself?

    Since you had your back to him there's no way you coulda been mistaken?

    It's not in normal peoples natural reflexes to drop someone to the ground with an elbow to the nose is all...:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    Look I respect your opinion,but this dude didn't just 'shove past'.Far from it.

    Deliberately dropped the shoulder into the back of the Flutt, who was holding a pint of Stella,which ended on the floor.

    Now I was fairly kettled, but do not use that as an excuse.

    Just saying what happened.It was an instinctive reaction.


    I would never start a fight just for the fun of it.

    Never.

    Ok,after reading that I would have done the exact same thing.carry on sir.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    So me and the gang were in Alchemy on saturday nite and out of all the times we've been there there have never been fights.... But on this particular nite there were 3 seperate incidents.
    I know that people have rows and get angry but I could never figure out why people bother to start throwin swings IN the club, anyone with a brain knows that its only gonna be a matter of seconds until the bouncers come over and either break it up and throw you out, or theyre gonna kick the crap out of you, depending on the bouncer. Just seems to me like it a complete waste of time and effort starting a fight in a club...

    Whats peoples opinions on this?

    This is exactly why people start fights in clubs, they don't really want to fight, they just want to appear hard to 2 and half seconds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Sorry, FB. One doesn't use a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

    It's especially silly in a club where said simian goon may have many onlooking friends.


    Roundy, I totally acknowledge your input and of course you are dead right.

    I was extremely stupid,but I was well bottled, and not in full control.

    That's how these rows happen, normally well behaved punters like myself and others get a bit 'ripped' and act out of character.

    That's what I did, wouldn't condone it at all.

    This cookie was a total spanner and when the Stella hit the boards I reacted.

    Luckily wasn't charged for assault as you say.

    Your man was carted off, but I don't know the final outcome.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Einstein wrote: »
    Everything can appear deliberate when kettled.

    No chance the guy slipped, or tripped, or was fairly "kettled" himself?

    Since you had your back to him there's no way you coulda been mistaken?

    It's not in normal peoples natural reflexes to drop someone to the ground with an elbow to the nose is all...:confused:

    I take your point,and I doubt very much that this guy tripped .

    I was wrong to react as I did, it was stupid in the extreme, and you are right to criticise my actions.

    You have made very good points, which I will take on board.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Einstein


    I take your point,and I doubt very much that this guy tripped .

    I was wrong to react as I did, it was stupid in the extreme, and you are right to criticise my actions.

    You have made very good points, which I will take on board.

    /group hug:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭jimthemental



    Didn't know who he was dealing with, unfortunately for him.

    I am not generally an aggressive person.

    Sounds fairly aggressive to me, and would the Bantam in your username refer to Bantamweight?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Einstein wrote: »
    /group hug:p

    Sure:D

    Did not take umbrage with your justified criticism, just outlining the facts.

    That's how these fights occur in chippers and nightclubs.

    Some well tanked testosterone fueled lads queue, and some more testosterone fueled lads try to jump the queue- recipe for trouble.

    Every weekend night it happens.

    Just want to put on record that I am not proud of my actions, could have ended up in the chokey if things went pear shaped.

    Would always recommend the advice given here, don't over react.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    So me and the gang were in Alchemy on saturday nite and out of all the times we've been there there have never been fights....

    I think anyone who starts any sentence with this information listens to far too much rap music


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭SIX PACK


    FlutterinBanthum why are you going all soft for. Just coz a few people didnt agree with your Response When some ****Head gossles you out of the way for no reason.
    My point is Id of done the exact same thing- Why should you let some Cocky prick/stranger get 1 over on you ?? Put it this way He wont do it again in a hurry
    On a different note... Where is this Niteclub Alchemy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    I see fights happen all the time and I find it incredibly annoying, it usually ruins what was otherwise a good night. Normally if some scumbag knocks my pint or tries to jump me in queue I'll give him a bollockin and tell him to mind his manners. You'd be surprised how often they suddenly realise they're not the hardasses they thought they were.

    Then again one or two especially fine samples have tried to tear into me a couple of times but usually a couple of mates will drag him away and send him on his way.

    Don't think I've ever been in an actual proper fight on a night out, nor would I want to be.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭darragh16


    Just stick to coppers....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    SIX PACK wrote: »
    FlutterinBanthum why are you going all soft for. Just coz a few people didnt agree with your Response When some ****Head gossles you out of the way for no reason.
    My point is Id of done the exact same thing- Why should you let some Cocky prick/stranger get 1 over on you ?? Put it this way He wont do it again in a hurry
    On a different note... Where is this Niteclub Alchemy


    Sixer, I wasn't trying to big myself up with that account, and people I respect on Boards rightly criticised me for my actions.

    Now on the night I was as thick as hammered shíte and took drastic action,but in fairness, that would not be my normal behaviour.

    So sorry for going a bit soft, but i will always admit mistakes if i make them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    The girlfriend was in her local country night club* a few months back when one fella decided to drive a pint glass into another guys neck! She said it was horrific - blood squirted!! They closed the club an hour early while two nurses who were out clubbing tended to him til an ambulance got there



    *no bouncers! :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭scientific1982


    Fights happen all the time in the real world. Alcohol is often involved. As long as no one was badly injured, the world moves on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Misty Chaos


    I used to work in a night club before so I've seen my fair share of fights, including one where two guys were really, really going at it quite violently. I was as dumbstruck as the other patrons at the sheer brutality of the fight but quickly enough pointed out the chaos to the manager and bouncers behind me.

    One time at a 21st, I looked at some overly drunk guy the wrong way and he started to shove me and push me, obviously looking for a fight. Thank god I wasn't drinking that night and I just walked away, I knew it wasn't worth it.

    That being said, when my family heard about this, they were looking for details to kick this guys ass! Er, no. The idiot was drunk, was probably in a bad mood and was probably looking at a way to take out his frustrations, he didn't even know me!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Einstein


    SIX PACK wrote: »
    FlutterinBanthum why are you going all soft for. Just coz a few people didnt agree with your Response When some ****Head gossles you out of the way for no reason.
    My point is Id of done the exact same thing- Why should you let some Cocky prick/stranger get 1 over on you ?? Put it this way He wont do it again in a hurry On a different note... Where is this Niteclub Alchemy
    Maybe because you get a lot more respect from people if you laugh it off and drop the macho bullsh*t?

    And that Alchemy place is on Fleet Street in TempleBar.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    Sorry, FB. One doesn't use a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

    It's especially silly in a club where said simian goon may have many onlooking friends.

    Unusually well observed Roundy...you must be sober for once !

    Glad to see you got rid of that stupid Munster sig....

    Not a great one to have these days.......hmmmmm ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Antomus Prime


    I think anyone who starts any sentence with this information listens to far too much rap music

    I never listen to wrap, hate it, i'm more a cheesy 80's guy............ which could probably apply to your statement too lol :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Antomus Prime


    darragh16 wrote: »
    Just stick to coppers....

    Cant stand coppers, if i wanted not to be able to move anywhere and que 30 mins for a drink i'd prob go there, but i dont want that lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    Look I respect your opinion,but this dude didn't just 'shove past'.Far from it.

    Deliberately dropped the shoulder into the back of the Flutt, who was holding a pint of Stella,which ended on the floor.

    Now I was fairly kettled, but do not use that as an excuse.

    Just saying what happened.It was an instinctive reaction.


    I would never start a fight just for the fun of it.

    Never.

    Gotta back the Flut up on this one. Shouldering someone out of the way is an act of aggression, don't dish it out if you can't take it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    One night while out in a club this fella stood on my foot so I broke his nose with a box.












    Actually come to think of it, I wasn't in a club and it was wind that I broke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,194 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    Only ever saw that once, and the guy throwing the punch regretted it fairly rapidly, a swarm of blokes jumped on him. I dont get it at all, it ruins loads of people nites cause theres always bystanders getting caught in the way, or in some cases the music gets turned off and it just puts people in a fowl mood.
    I always keep well away from trouble meself, I s'pose I'm a bit of a chicken!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    Roundy, I totally acknowledge your input and of course you are dead right.

    I was extremely stupid,but I was well bottled, and not in full control.

    That's how these rows happen, normally well behaved punters like myself and others get a bit 'ripped' and act out of character.

    That's what I did, wouldn't condone it at all.

    This cookie was a total spanner and when the Stella hit the boards I reacted.

    Luckily wasn't charged for assault as you say.

    Your man was carted off, but I don't know the final outcome.

    You should have knifed him after dropping him. Then dragged his bleeding ass outside and set fire to him and pushed his screaming, burning hide under a passing bus :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Anyone who gets in fights in nightclubs or otherwise is an idiot and an idiot with no class IMO. It's not cool or tough, it's ridiculous. DIAF


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭tomplaya


    I always keep well away from trouble meself, I s'pose I'm a bit of a chicken!

    whats the matter!!!??? .......... .. you chicken!!!???


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