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Racial Equality

  • 02-10-2010 2:50pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Is it just me or is "racial equality" being forced down our throats lately??
    I'm in no way racist and am all for equality but it seems that everywhere you turn theres a new ad campaign "highlighting racial awareness" or some shíte like that.
    Or in every advertisment nowadays there's always a token black person or some guy in a turban with a big cheesy grin on his face shaking hands with a white guy.
    There's a new ad campaign on all Dublin Bus shelters at the minute and every one of them is a picture of some "ethnic minority"
    Yes yes, we all know Ireland is a multi-cultural society and welcomes everybody with equal opportunities blah blah blah, I have a dream, blah blah blah.....but do we really need to have these ad campaigns constantly shoved in our faces all the time?? :confused: I just want one day where I don't have somebody tell me to make friends with a muslim, or hug a buddhist or some shít.

    Sorry its just something thats been bugging me for a while now.

    /RANT

    .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Stool Borey Co


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Dean09 wrote: »
    Is it just me or is "racial equality" being forced down our throats lately??
    I'm in no way racist and am all for equality but it seems that everywhere you turn theres a new ad campaign "highlighting racial awareness" or some shíte like that.
    Or in every advertisment nowadays there's always a token black person or some guy in a turban with a big cheesy grin on his face shaking hands with a white guy.
    There's a new ad campaign on all Dublin Bus shelters at the minute and every one of them is a picture of some "ethnic minority"
    Yes yes, we all know Ireland is a multi-cultural society and welcomes everybody with equal opportunities blah blah blah, I have a dream, blah blah blah.....but do we really need to have these ad campaigns constantly shoved in our faces all the time?? :confused: I just want one day where I don't have somebody tell me to make friends with a muslim, or hug a buddhist or some shít.

    Sorry its just something thats been bugging me for a while now.

    /RANT

    .
    That really isn't any clue as to how this thread is going to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,603 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Stormfront servers temporarily down or something?


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Jon Mealy Rambler


    Dean09 wrote: »
    I'm in no way racist but

    Uh huh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    Muslim people don't use buses too?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,537 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully" ...GW Bush


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    Muslim people don't use buses too?

    They take the halal-o-craft.


    I'll get me coat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭wonton


    Muslim people don't use buses too?


    why mention muslims?



    never mind just seen it in the ops post, i was thinking it was something to do with some muslim and bus related incident i hadnt heard about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Stormfront servers temporarily down or something?

    Sh*t, everytime I was the car a fvcking stormfront comes over.. bollox :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    Anyone who isn't a racist has simply never been in a cinema full of black people.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    I don't mind the examples cited in the OP, but I do get pissed off by the muppets on the other side who like to invent/see racism in every little thing. They are the reason the ads have to be like they are, because if they weren't some twat would read racism into everything. That's where the real issue lies tbh, a certain subset of society foaming at the mouth desperate to cry racism, xenophobia etc imagined a lot of the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    Anyone who isn't a racist has simply never been in a cinema full of black people.

    I'm guessing like me you pay an American black woman to check everything before you do it and shouts "Don't go in there!" when an unsavoury situation may unfold?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Muslim people don't use buses too?

    Nope, they get the free Islamocars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    I remember watching the Apprentice, the one with Alan Sugar

    Watch it sometime, there will always be a black and asian candidate, always.
    Well if that's a large demographic in the UK so fair enough.

    In Series 1, Saira Khan who was an incredibly confident person and made it to the final even called herself a token candidate.

    The OP made a point, why does posters jump in and not even discuss it or not even read it like this


    OP, you probably should have started this thread in Humanities

    Which would suggest that she was the only ethnic minority candidate(hate that expression-she is English by the way) in that series, which she wasn't, so how can she be a token candidate? Remember Tim(who won) and Raj(who got to the latter stages)? Maybe she was referring to the fact that she was a woman?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    I remember watching the Apprentice, the one with Alan Sugar

    Watch it sometime, there will always be a black and asian candidate, always.
    Well if that's a large demographic in the UK so fair enough.

    In Series 1, Saira Khan who was an incredibly confident person and made it to the final even called herself a token candidate.

    The OP made a point, why does posters jump in and not even discuss it or not even read it like this


    OP, you probably should have started this thread in Humanities

    Alan Sugars Jewish. Does that mean he's token too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Nodin wrote: »
    Alan Sugars Jewish. Does that mean he's token too?

    James Max who made it to the semi final is also Jewish


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    James Max who made it to the semi final is also Jewish

    ....two token Jews???? Well holy jaysus....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 Social Disorder


    amacachi wrote: »
    I'm guessing like me you pay an American black woman to check everything before you do it and shouts "Don't go in there!" when an unsavoury situation may unfold?

    You pay her fairly I assume :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭Tchaikovsky


    There are so many minorities at my water park.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 542 ✭✭✭ILA


    You're only noticing this recently?!? :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭argonaut


    "I'm not racist, but..."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭citizen_p


    the thing i really hate about all this sexual/ racial equality is when they put it in historical films which also have modern day political corectness.
    these were days when there was no such thing as war crimes, women were second class citizens and most coloured people in westren europe were slaves


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Jon Mealy Rambler


    Mousey- wrote: »
    the thing i really hate about all this sexual/ racial equality is when they put it in historical films which also have modern day political corectness.
    these were days when there was no such thing as war crimes, women were second class citizens and most coloured people in westren europe were slaves

    Like when they had a black 20 year old as some kinda reverend mother in a robin hood ep? :D
    I know nobody sees the difference now but geez!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭citizen_p


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Like when they had a black 20 year old as some kinda reverend mother in a robin hood ep? :D
    I know nobody sees the difference now but geez!

    like in the new robin hood with russel crow
    when the kids that stole the grain arent beaten to a pulp when they are found
    or in hamlet which is set in the 1600s in denmark, and has several coloured people in prominent positions (danish envoys, generals, lords and ladys )


    they are just two that spring to mind as i seen them recently


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Like when they had a black 20 year old as some kinda reverend mother in a robin hood ep? :D
    I know nobody sees the difference now but geez!
    African blood has run through British veins since at least the 18th century and perhaps since Roman times, a study suggests.
    A set of typically West African genes has been found in seven white British men who share the same rare surname, allowing scientists to trace an African heritage that none had any idea he shared.
    The African Y chromosome — the packet of genetic material passed down through the male line — probably originated from a man from Senegal or Guinea-Bissau who lived in Yorkshire in the early 18th century and was inherited by his male descendants.
    It is even possible that the line goes back farther still, to Roman soldiers from North Africa posted to Hadrian’s Wall 1,800 years ago. This “division of Moors”, which included the earliest known Africans in Britain, included recruits from what is now Morocco
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1295724.ece


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Dean09 wrote: »
    Is it just me or is "racial equality" being forced down our throats lately??
    I'm in no way racist and am all for equality but it seems that everywhere you turn theres a new ad campaign "highlighting racial awareness" or some shíte like that.
    Or in every advertisment nowadays there's always a token black person or some guy in a turban with a big cheesy grin on his face shaking hands with a white guy.
    There's a new ad campaign on all Dublin Bus shelters at the minute and every one of them is a picture of some "ethnic minority"
    Yes yes, we all know Ireland is a multi-cultural society and welcomes everybody with equal opportunities blah blah blah, I have a dream, blah blah blah.....but do we really need to have these ad campaigns constantly shoved in our faces all the time?? :confused: I just want one day where I don't have somebody tell me to make friends with a muslim, or hug a buddhist or some shít.

    Sorry its just something thats been bugging me for a while now.

    /RANT

    .
    Does the true word of Equality actually even exist? I mean, real equality. Everyone being equal? Nope, its doesn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    There were black people in Britain before the English.

    Astonishing but true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    Dean09 wrote: »
    Is it just me or is "racial equality" being forced down our throats lately??
    I'm in no way racist and am all for equality but it seems that everywhere you turn theres a new ad campaign "highlighting racial awareness" or some shíte like that.
    Or in every advertisment nowadays there's always a token black person or some guy in a turban with a big cheesy grin on his face shaking hands with a white guy.
    There's a new ad campaign on all Dublin Bus shelters at the minute and every one of them is a picture of some "ethnic minority"
    Yes yes, we all know Ireland is a multi-cultural society and welcomes everybody with equal opportunities blah blah blah, I have a dream, blah blah blah.....but do we really need to have these ad campaigns constantly shoved in our faces all the time?? :confused: I just want one day where I don't have somebody tell me to make friends with a muslim, or hug a buddhist or some shít.

    Sorry its just something thats been bugging me for a while now.

    /RANT

    .
    Jeez that's f#ckin awful man.. I don't know how you cope.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    I think you're right OP. These forced racial equality ethics have got me soooo angry. Sometimes I think that all the racially pure white Irish people should just get together and, with help from the authorities, put all the none-white, English and Eastern Europeans (who are living in Ireland) and all the racially impure population into a massive concentration camp somewhere in Mayo. We should enslave them and make them build a large array of gas chambers and crematoriums adjacent to the camp. After that we should shove them all in them and gas them to hell and burn their bodies in the crematoriums. Then in the end we'll drop their ashes over Wales.


    *attempt at comedy fails epically and realises tastelessness, walks away slowly*

    I do think we should ban the burka though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Johro wrote: »
    Jeez that's f#ckin awful man.. I don't know how you cope.

    I kind of understand how he feels.

    We don't need corporate institutions to lecture us about racial awareness, and some of the campaigns, however well meaning, can have a very negative result.

    Let them lead by example, not through advertising.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    I kind of understand how he feels.

    We don't need corporate institutions to lecture us about racial awareness, and some of the campaigns, however well meaning, can have a very negative result.

    Let them lead by example, not through advertising.
    Fair enough. I agree. Nobody's asking him to hug anyone though. No-one's asking to be hugged. At least, not after that.:D It's shouldn't really be that big a deal unless, of course, you were a bit of a xenophobe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Maybe he wants to hug a large African fellow, but feels guilty about it unless he's forced to.....I understand theres clubs for that sort of thing these days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭citizen_p


    Nodin wrote: »
    1 he talked about robin hood, which is set after one of the crusades so 10th 11th century.

    2 my post i was trying to show the social stats, yes there were coloured men etc... in england, brought there by the romans (Sarmatian horsemen)...vikings... saxons... etc...., but most if not all held no power and were slaves (pre 1807)

    so, yes they could have a coloured man in the films etc... but when they make him a lord or a captain of an army etc... this is wrong of the social standards of the time.

    (waits for a wikipedia link of a coloured westren european lord/lady, general, but NOT an ambassador)



    I personally have more resentment of political corectness, than I have of people of any race. especially when it comes to history, the past is the past and what happened, happened. it shouldnt be pasted over in modern films or books. history is history good or bad. slavery happened and was stopped, coloured people, women and even diffrent religions were oppresed, it wasnt a good thing or a thing of the modern day but it did happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Mousey- wrote: »
    I personally have more resentment of political corectness, than I have of people of any race.

    Would that be just when it's gone mad, or in its standard form?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    I didint mean my original post to come across as racist- far from it in fact. I have absolutely nothing against any race, its just these advertisements that bug me. They just seem kind of patronising and telling us all to be friends. And a lot of ads out there at the minute (ones that arent even about racial awareness) are clearly just sticking in a minority person for the sake of it.--kind of like a "ooh look at me I'm all fairtrade!"
    Lets face it, a racist person isnt gonna change his views because of an ad on the back of a bus.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 258 ✭✭areu4real?


    strobe wrote: »
    Stool Borey Co

    OLD MEME BRO


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭citizen_p


    Would that be just when it's gone mad, or in its standard form?
    crazy form , example, i call somone a b!tch it can be said that im commiting sexual oppresion or harrasment as its a phrase only used on women, where as if i tell her to feck of its not. or hiring a whiteman over a blackman nad getting called a racist.

    i dont view myself as a racist, but i do hate all this crazy political corectness bull****. (especially in historical media as shown in previous posts)


    obviously some political corectness is needed, otherwise you'd have right wing racist nuts doing what they want. (example BNP)


    for a list of my hates go to....but seriously i also hate all that claim to gain bull****, i slipped on a wet floor at my workplace because im a ****ing idiot. i then noticed no sign and realised i had a case against my employer of 5 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Mousey- wrote: »
    1 he talked about robin hood, which is set after one of the crusades so 10th 11th century.

    Alrighty
    What we can deduce further about this man from the evidence is that he was probably a trader. Ipswich was a port and it is likely that, given his foreign birth, he was involved in the shipping of materials or minerals of some sort.
    The Crusades(inline-face_09.png?1265851550)had sent Christian men from England to reclaim the Holy Land from Muslims, but one of the results of this was that more trade routes were opened up with the Muslim-dominated Eastern Mediterranean and North Africa.
    This man’s presence in Ipswich could well have been as a consequence of that. This man was not poor - a poor man would never have been buried in a single grave in an important part of the friary, as he was.
    The poor would have been buried in common graves.
    And it is most likely that he would have had to pay for his treatment at the friary.
    Sometimes wealthier people at the time would actually invest in a local friary in the knowledge that the friary would look after them when they fell ill and bury them when they died.
    http://gopak.co.cc/daily-news/he-was-an-african-who-had-a-strong-jaw-and-a-bad-back-so-what-was-he-doing-in-ipswich-in-the-year-1190/
    Mousey- wrote: »
    I personally have more resentment of political corectness, than I have of people of any race. especially when it comes to history, the past is the past and what happened, happened. it shouldnt be pasted over in modern films or books. history is history good or bad. slavery happened and was stopped, coloured people, women and even diffrent religions were oppresed, it wasnt a good thing or a thing of the modern day but it did happen.

    Mel Gibsons "the patriot" being a splendid example.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Jon Mealy Rambler


    Nodin wrote: »

    That's pretty cool thanks!
    I thought it was just PCness!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    bluewolf wrote: »
    That's pretty cool thanks!
    I thought it was just PCness!

    Nope. Just ignored. And unfortunately its not a phenomena limited to those times either.
    http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/india_and_world_war_one.htm


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    I kind of understand how he feels.

    We don't need corporate institutions to lecture us about racial awareness, and some of the campaigns, however well meaning, can have a very negative result.

    Let them lead by example, not through advertising.

    I think you need you need to separate 'you' the person walking down the street from 'The people who shout "Go Back to Your Own Country' at people who rightfully (note rightfully) reside here, because of the colour of their skin.

    While the OP may not need to be told that black people or foreigners are people too, there's definitely a relatively large group of ****heads who do need to be told.


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