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Road Rage Death

  • 01-10-2010 8:53am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,051 ✭✭✭✭


    RTÉ are reporting that a victim of a road rage incident last week has died in hospital. The victim was beaten about the head with a Hurley, in the middle of Sandymount (Dublin 4), last Sunday evening. Comment is superfluous. :mad:

    Ye Hypocrites, are these your pranks
    To murder men and gie God thanks?
    Desist for shame, proceed no further
    God won't accept your thanks for murder.

    ―Robert Burns



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    was the perp from kilkenny?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    bnt wrote: »
    Comment is superfluous. :mad:

    Then why start a thread?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭curlzy


    Wow, that is just so idiotic, one life snuffed out and another ruined, not to mention the relatives on both sides, and over what? :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭x in the city


    must be some knacker to have a hurley at the ready and smash someones skull over an incident, wish we had death penalty for things like that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Sad news, I think anyone who drives knows what its like to have road rage but I can honestly say its never driven me to beat someone up or want to beat someone up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    That film "Falling Down" has a lot to answer for.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,442 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    On a Sunday too :eek: :confused:

    Could understand a Tuesday morning or something..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    There was a gimp near me beeping at the lights for no obvious reason this morning before screeching off somewhere.

    If I had a hurley to hand, it would be have been hard to stay in a Ghandi state of mind, put it that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,854 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    xzanti wrote: »
    On a Sunday too :eek: :confused:

    Could understand a Tuesday morning or something..

    Sunday drivers ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    is road rage common in ireland? taught it was a UK passtime


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I can't see the accused sliotharing out of this one, to be fair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,051 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Then why start a thread?
    Because this is news, and I don't automatically expect everyone to share my opinion? There's a possibility that someone else may produce an interesting and relevant comment. You should try that, some time.

    Ye Hypocrites, are these your pranks
    To murder men and gie God thanks?
    Desist for shame, proceed no further
    God won't accept your thanks for murder.

    ―Robert Burns



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,576 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    stovelid wrote: »
    I can't see the accused sliotharing out of this one, to be fair.

    Caman, that's a terrible pun!
    bent wrote:
    Because this is news, and I don't automatically expect everyone to share my opinion?

    They can't really share it if you refuse to give it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,731 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    stovelid wrote: »
    I can't see the accused sliotharing out of this one, to be fair.

    Well, he was hurling abuse...

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,197 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    fryup wrote: »
    taught it was a UK passtime

    They teach it in the UK for sure, but we have some graduates here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Well, he was hurling abuse...

    We get your point...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    gurramok wrote: »
    We get your point...

    Yes, and surely punning isn't the goal of this thread


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    Yes, and surely punning isn't the goal of this thread

    Double thanks for simultaneously punning and mocking a moralistic anti-pun standpoint.

    You'll go far :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭TheTMO


    A husband with kids has just been pronounced dead and the 'hilarious' puns are pouring in. I really hope users engaging in those sort of comments know just how immature and pathetic they come across. Using an ordinary mans brutal death in order to get a few cheap laughs from their peers on an internet forum. What pathetic individuals you must be.

    As an aside road rage is getting very bad in this country. In the last month I've witnessed a man jump out of his car and punch a womens window (I was at least 10 cars back in traffic and was the only one to actually get out of my car but he was finished at that stage) and then just a few days ago I witnessed a man trying to open the door of a car before it drove off.

    Anyway if it was a Sunday and he had a hurley in his car then perhaps hes a hurler who just had played a game or had training? Wouldn't be hard if they know what the car and man looks like to go around to the hurling clubs in the area and look.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    TheTMO wrote: »
    What pathetic individuals you must be.

    Hurling abuse around like this isn't the way to go about it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭Ste_D


    TheTMO wrote: »
    Anyway if it was a Sunday and he had a hurley in his car then perhaps hes a hurler who just had played a game or had training? Wouldn't be hard if they know what the car and man looks like to go around to the hurling clubs in the area and look.

    The Irish Times reported that the guy has already been traced and arrested.

    This is pretty shocking, would I be right in saying its the first road-rage related death in this country?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,051 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    TheTMO wrote: »
    A husband with kids has just been pronounced dead and the 'hilarious' puns are pouring in. I really hope users engaging in those sort of comments know just how immature and pathetic they come across. Using an ordinary mans brutal death in order to get a few cheap laughs from their peers on an internet forum. What pathetic individuals you must be.
    I was expecting worse than this, to be honest. No-one seems to have picked up on the nationality of the victim, vs. the very Irish way he was assaulted. If an English person attacked an Irish person with a cricket bat, it would be front page news here. :rolleyes:

    Ye Hypocrites, are these your pranks
    To murder men and gie God thanks?
    Desist for shame, proceed no further
    God won't accept your thanks for murder.

    ―Robert Burns



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    TheTMO wrote: »
    What pathetic individuals you must be.

    Camán, we're just having a laugh, this is After Hours after all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭Dick Turnip


    Caman, that's a terrible pun!
    .
    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    Camán, we're just having a laugh, this is After Hours after all

    That ones already been done. At least if you're going to post a terrible pun make it original.

    I know it's AH but i thought this would get a bit more sympathy seeing as it happened in Ireland and the man's friends/relations could easily read this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭kelle


    That's awful, my condolances to the victim's family.

    It's so scary how he was ok enough to drive home after the attack, but then ends up in a coma.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    TheTMO wrote: »
    A husband with kids has just been pronounced dead and the 'hilarious' puns are pouring in.

    Freedom of speech means the freedom to say some pretty horrific things.

    We're so precious about everything in this country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    Camán, we're just having a laugh, this is After Hours after all

    ASHure go puck yourself!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    R.I.P.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭LarrytheLantern


    xzanti wrote: »
    On a Sunday too :eek: :confused:

    Could understand a Tuesday morning or something..

    apparently the perp was late for mass.:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    fryup wrote: »
    is road rage common in ireland? taught it was a UK passtime

    No, we practice road begrudgery for the most part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    Bloody awful tragedy and see no need for insulting commentaries.

    Reminds me of the recent TV doc above a road rage inicident in London, one guy stabbed and killed another motorist. Fair play to the Cops, the perp was tracked down eventually in Spain and subsequently charged, sentenced and now doing Life in prison in UK.

    I hope the Gardai can do likewise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Ffs we can't slag off a 'celebrity' anymore - but its cool to make fun of an ordinary family man's violent death.

    The man's remains probably haven't yet been returned to his loved one's yet and this sh*t goes down!.

    For shame guys.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Ffs we can't slag off a 'celebrity' anymore - but its cool to make fun of an ordinary family man's violent death.

    The man's remains probably haven't yet been returned to his loved one's yet and this sh*t goes down!.

    For shame guys.

    Yeah but celebs are are more likely to take legal action than punters and that's all boards gives a shít about these days.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭LarrytheLantern


    not that i wish to condone in any way this awful action, but i do feel it's symtomatic of how people in this country appear to be losing control of everything.

    Truly dreadful.

    that said i recall my days in England and the road rage there was really quite scary. if you even looked at a fellow motorist you were likely to be run-off the road. a complete nutter followed my all the way to my home (over 150 miles) after i gave him the fingers. he left rather quickly after my flatmate, who was a bouncer/body-builder, came to the door.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    bonerm wrote: »
    Yeah but celebs are are more likely to take legal action than punters and that's all boards gives a shít about these days.

    If that were the case, and I don't believe it is. I'd question my position and continued participation here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    If any of Raymond Bates' family are reading this thread, then please be aware that jokes and puns are par for the course in this forum and nobody is making fun of Raymond's tragic and shocking death.

    We trust justice will be swift and appropriate.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭wixfjord


    Its not hurley, it's hurl.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Owwmykneecap


    must be some knacker to have a hurley at the ready and smash someones skull over an incident, wish we had death penalty for things like that


    Yeah if we had the death penalty we wouldn't have had our first road rage murder until at least 2012.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 Cats_Toon_Rower


    must be some knacker to have a hurley at the ready

    Remember some people play hurling. Its not a weapon, just a sporting instrument. Plenty of people have one or more in their car.

    Jokes might be fine when you something happens in another country but in your own backyard......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    fryup wrote: »
    is road rage common in ireland? taught it was a UK passtime



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    RTE have updated this horrific story http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1001/batesr.html

    I live not far from there and according to one of the tabloids, the possible offender who presented himself to the Garda station lives locally :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 englishman


    If any of Raymond Bates' family are reading this thread, then please be aware that jokes and puns are par for the course in this forum and nobody is making fun of Raymond's tragic and shocking death.

    We trust justice will be swift and appropriate.


    so jokes n puns are allowed then because of this forum!!! even at the expense of someones elses loss, i am a family member and truly hope that non of you lot on here, bar a few who do seem to have a heart, donot have to endure what the family are going through, his body hasnt been released, but his wife n kids have had to return home, put yrselves in their shoes and then you might learn to keep yr mouths shut...have a bit repect if u can manage that, and less of the jokes please


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    englishman wrote: »
    so jokes n puns are allowed then because of this forum!!! even at the expense of someones elses loss

    Englishman, my own view - for what it's worth - is that I don't think anyone was intending to be disrespectful towards the late Mr Bates or was making light of the incident, but just making a few cheap jokes about the national Irish sport.

    If you think that any of the posts have crossed the line of decency, do report to a mod it by clicking the report button on the left.

    This is obviously a terrible time for his family and friends, and you have my deepest sympathy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 242 ✭✭Ghetto Cornetto


    >Expecting sympathy and respectful posting in AH.
    >whatthefúckamireading.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    bnt wrote: »
    I was expecting worse than this, to be honest. No-one seems to have picked up on the nationality of the victim, vs. the very Irish way he was assaulted. If an English person attacked an Irish person with a cricket bat, it would be front page news here. :rolleyes:


    I think most people have moved on from the Irish vs the English so I don't see what has to be picked up by the very 'Irish' way he was assualted. If a basball bat was used would it have made a difference?

    And how much worse were you expecting?
    A man died for no reason, that's pretty bad in my book.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭mink_man


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    Camán, we're just having a laugh, this is After Hours after all

    I think everyone should remember this thread....look at the quote of my post in the 3rd or 4th post...

    then read all the abuse i got for making a joke..

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055988857&highlight=starved+death


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    mink_man wrote: »
    I think everyone should remember this thread....look at the quote of my post in the 3rd or 4th post...

    then read all the abuse i got for making a joke..

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055988857&highlight=starved+death


    Well the jokes/ puns made on this thread were about hurleys, sliothers etc.
    They were not about a handicapped person who starved to death having spent God knows how long wasting away while her mother was close by already dead.

    I haven't read a direct insult/ joke about the deceased man in this thread but more of a play on words surrounding the weapon used. It may be in bad taste but it is different.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    Simplest solution is to stay in your car and lock your doors. Nothing will happen to you then, your car may be damaged but at least you will still be alive.


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