Do you think Cowen will resign allowing Brian Lenihan to take over?

starlit

I think this is a possibility as it was a disgrace what happened regarding his morning show interview and think-in in Galway.

TheZohanS

I'd say zero chance, Brian Lenihan has enough on his plate with pancreatic cancer.

orourkeda

no

patmac

Nobody will want the job until after the next budget and Fianna Gael will not want an election this year, tis a poisoned chalice.

PeterIanStaker

No, he's too f&cking stupid to resign, and everyone else is too smart (not smart as in intelligent, more like self-preservation smart) to take over.

The ship will continue to sink, it does not matter who is at the wheel.

Micky Dolenz

Not a hope. A challenge now for leadership would topple the government and no FF'er will want that.

LarrytheLantern

NO

Biffo the Clown has a neck like Lester Piggot's nutsack.

He will need to be dragged out of his cosy half-day job kickin 'n screamin with Mary Cocklan sitting on his face.:eek:

that or an election i suppose ....................:rolleyes:

orourkeda

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Not a hope. A challenge now for leadership would topple the government and no FF'er will want that.

Thats assuming they actually engage their brains

Micky Dolenz

orourkeda wrote: »

Thats assuming they actually engage their brains

When it comes to self preservation, these boys are top of the class.

Agricola

More chance of Inda Kinny becoming charismatic

PeterIanStaker

orourkeda wrote: »

Thats assuming they actually engage their brains

their whats?

starlit

So if the government were to be re-elected would that mean that Fine Gale or the Labour Party might be in with a chance of running the country so? Gilmore might be a good candidate to become the next Taoiseach?

thebigbiffo

if he resigns/is replaced it wont be until the next GE is announced.

nobody in their right mind wants the job at the moment but the party wont allow BC to lead them into the next election - that would be party political suicide (not some spotty teenage attempt at suicide like they seem to be engaging in at the moment)

juma

How is Brian Lenihan's health now? Haven't really heard much about is since the story orginally broke (which hopefully is a good sign).

Micky Dolenz

snuggles285 wrote: »

So if the government were to be re-elected would that mean that Fine Gale or the Labour Party might be in with a chance of running the country so? Gilmore might be a good candidate to become the next Taoiseach?

Gilmore will never be Taoiseach, Tanaiste possibly.

bonerm

LarrytheLantern wrote: »

Biffo the Clown has a neck like Lester Piggot's nutsack.

Quote of the day there. I'd thank you twice if I could.

Actually that is a lie. Once is sufficent.

cleremy jarkson

TheZohan wrote: »

I'd say zero chance, Brian Lenihan has enough on his plate with pancreatic cancer.

FYP

Sheeps

People who want a resignation over what may have been a hang over are pathetic. If he's going to resign, I'd want it to be for a good enough reason and not some pseudo-political bullshit.

_feedback_

Zero chance. Sure, you'd want to be a bit mad to take over that job. Who would want it at the moment.

The two Brians doing a press conference in a few mins. Probably to rubbish all this talk.

Micky Dolenz

elviscostello wrote: »

Zero chance. Sure, you'd want to be a bit mad to take over that job. Who would want it at the moment.

The two Brians doing a press conference in a few mins. Probably to rubbish all this talk.

Will RTE have it live?

Mark200

I think the smart thing to do would be to just carry on, and then when the election comes run the election saying that Brian Lenihan will take over the party after the election, and therefore will be Taoiseach if Fianna Fail remain in power. Also, I completely agree with Sheeps' post:

Sheeps wrote: »

People who want a resignation over what may have been a hang over are pathetic. If he's going to resign, I'd want it to be for a good enough reason and not some pseudo-political bullshit.

snuggles285 wrote: »

So if the government were to be re-elected would that mean that Fine Gale or the Labour Party might be in with a chance of running the country so? Gilmore might be a good candidate to become the next Taoiseach?

God help us.

Johnny Bitte

French fella I used to live with went mental when Bertie appointed Cowan to lead the country.
Just couldn't believe that we would let a political party pick the person to run the country rather than the people.

Can't see it happening again.

_feedback_

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Will RTE have it live?

Couldn't tell you Micky. Probably though.

Biggins

No, he'll brazen it out.

Johnny Bitte

elviscostello wrote: »

Zero chance. Sure, you'd want to be a bit mad to take over that job. Who would want it at the moment.

.

I ll do it no problem.

get paid a fortune to sit around all day talking about fresh air and getting pissed afterwards.

Yes please.

Mark200

The_Goose135 wrote: »

French fella I used to live with went mental when Bertie appointed Cowan to lead the country.
Just couldn't believe that we would let a political party pick the person to run the country rather than the people.

Can't see it happening again.

The French have a different system. Our system is that the leader of the party in power is Taoiseach. We don't, and have never, elected our Taoiseach directly. When you vote for a party, you do so knowing that whoever they decide to be their party leader will be Taoiseach (assuming they win).

spadesaspade

some chance of that happening

enda1

I think it would be quite undemocratic for another Taoiseach to come into power not having lead a party into election success.

Cowen should step down and call a general election. though he should wait till after the budget is voted in.

dvpower

I don't think anyone, in any party, would want a General Election this side of the budget.

Littlegirllost

Cannot see him stepping down whatsoever

Rented Mule

TheZohan wrote: »

I'd say zero chance, Brian Lenihan has enough on his plate with prostate cancer.

I am not trying to be cynical here when I say this, but putting a 'dying' Lenihan into this position could be a huge vote getter for FF if the Elections are timed correctly.

Growing up in the 'Democratic Machine' of the Southside of Chicago, the dying candidate/close relative is a HUGE vote swing apparatus when played correctly. I have seen candidates 'pull the plug' on relative the day before elections. I have also seen dead candidates defeat the living.

If this switch does happen, I completely expect it to be for the reasons stated above.

My name is URL

It would be bizarre if he stood down now before a general election.. I'd say if it happened, it might be the tipping point for a civil upheavel.. The thoughts of a 2nd person being appointed as leader of the country in the current situation and without any election been held is laughable, even too laughable for FF to consider!

galwayrush

Lenihan is just as incompetent as Cowen, he's a spoofer who keeps changing his mind but talks to us as if we are complete fools, he reminds me of chemical Ali............."we are winning the war"
I want to see the end of the toxic FF party and those fools on a different planet, the Greens.

brianthebard

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Gilmore will never be Taoiseach, Tanaiste possibly.

Never say never. If opinion poll figures are anyways close to accurate at the time of the next election then he could certainly become taoiseach, especially if it were a rainbow coalition, even if it means the office of taoiseach is rotated or shared between the two main coalition parties.

My name is URL wrote: »

It would be bizarre if he stood down now before a general election.. I'd say if it happened, it might be the tipping point for a civil upheavel.. The thoughts of a 2nd person being appointed as leader of the country in the current situation and without any election been held is laughable, even too laughable for FF to consider!

I disagree, although there seems to be a huge hatred for FF many people still for some daft reason believe that Lenihan is making the tough choices and somewhat different from the rest of cabinet. He's the only one capable of improving the parties image right now. There's no legal or constitutional reason why the government couldn't appoint a dozen taoisigh over its lifetime if it wanted.

Callan57

Lenihan only looks capable because the rest of them are so incompetent and pathetic.
'In the land of the blind the one eyed man is King'

Seloth

Excuse me but if you expect this over a hangover you are a fool.

And Cowen,despite public opinion does huge work in the background((Before anyone says obviously not with that hangover I will stab you )).Im not saying hes perfect or great but he has done,and is currently doing huge work,so much so he has got regotion internaitional and has kept the IMF out of the country,saving us from turning into a greek like state.

brianthebard

Seloth wrote: »

Excuse me but if you expect this over a hangover you are a fool.

And Cowen,despite public opinion does huge work in the background((Before anyone says obviously not with that hangover I will stab you )).Im not saying hes perfect or great but he has done,and is currently doing huge work,so much so he has got regotion internaitional and has kept the IMF out of the country,saving us from turning into a greek like state.

The IMF were never coming to the country to begin with, and if you think we've been saved from a greece-like situation you're either seriously deluded or a FF plant!

Sanjuro

Sheeps wrote: »

People who want a resignation over what may have been a hang over are pathetic. If he's going to resign, I'd want it to be for a good enough reason and not some pseudo-political bullshit.

How about being an absolutely out of touch, feckless, poor excuse for a statesman who oversaw the worst financial debacle this country has ever faced? Although, I guess for him to do that, he'd have to have a bit of self-awareness. Never mind. Move along. Nothing to see here.

Micky Dolenz

brianthebard wrote: »

Never say never. If opinion poll figures are anyways close to accurate at the time of the next election then he could certainly become taoiseach, especially if it were a rainbow coalition, even if it means the office of taoiseach is rotated or shared between the two main coalition parties.

.

Very unlikely. Better than Kenny but still unlikely.

Seloth

brianthebard wrote: »

The IMF were never coming to the country to begin with, and if you think we've been saved from a greece-like situation you're either seriously deluded or a FF plant!

Im not a FF nor am I deluded.The IMF were on the verg of coming to this country if it not were for the decesions that the current goverment..Please oh please look up your economic and european relations of this country and see how with out certain pressures sor actions they would be here.

It was only when such harsh decisions were made did the EU nations and IMF start to back off,even going so far to state how we are taking steps in the right direction.

MidlandsM

Cowans toast - and the clock is now ticking on him.

Only a matter of time.

galwayrush

Seloth wrote: »

Excuse me but if you expect this over a hangover you are a fool.

And Cowen,despite public opinion does huge work in the background((Before anyone says obviously not with that hangover I will stab you )).Im not saying hes perfect or great but he has done,and is currently doing huge work,so much so he has got regotion internaitional and has kept the IMF out of the country,saving us from turning into a greek like state.

The only thing huge regarding what he does is his salary.:mad:

brianthebard

Seloth wrote: »

Im not a FF nor am I deluded.The IMF were on the verg of coming to this country if it not were for the decesions that the current goverment..Please oh please look up your economic and european relations of this country and see how with out certain pressures sor actions they would be here.

What possible evidence do you have for this? There's no way the IMF were going to get involved, if only for the fact that the EU would not allow them to enter an EU state.

dvpower

brianthebard wrote: »

What possible evidence do you have for this? There's no way the IMF were going to get involved, if only for the fact that the EU would not allow them to enter an EU state.

In any case, the IMF can't just decide to go into a country. They have to be invited in. And even if we couldn't raise our own funds we have the option of going to the EU/ECB before we'd have to ask the IMF.

brianthebard

dvpower wrote: »

In any case, the IMF can't just decide to go into a country. They have to be invited in. And even if we couldn't raise our own funds we have the option of going to the EU/ECB before we'd have to ask the IMF.

Exactly. The EU would have to fall to pieces before the IMF would or could have anything to do with Ireland's business.

Sheeps

I was hung over in work the other day. Guess I should go ahead and resign.

starbelgrade

My name is URL wrote: »

The thoughts of a 2nd person being appointed as leader of the country in the current situation and without any election been held is laughable, even too laughable for FF to consider!

We don't have any say in who is Taoiseach at the polls, so it's not really an issue.

Micky Dolenz

Sheeps wrote: »

I was hung over in work the other day. Guess I should go ahead and resign.

Do you lead a nation?

Sheeps

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Do you lead a nation?

Does Biffo?

Micky Dolenz

Sheeps wrote: »

Does Biffo?

*Tips hat*

Biggins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh7bP1phKUM