WrestleMania 27 - 2011 ideas etc.......

JP Liz V1

Ok I know way way way too early ;)

Next year, the 27th annual WrestleMania will take place at the Georgia Dome in Atlanta

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WWE officials are indeed open to turning John Cena heel.Officials realize that they don't have anything that hot right now for WrestleMania 27. The idea of turning Cena heel has been around for years but discussion about it has never gotten far because Vince McMahon always turns it down for business reasons.
The Miz vs. Cena is being discussed for WrestleMania but if Cena turns heel before then, obviously that match would be off the books.

Am I the only person who don't wanna see The Miz V John Cena at WrestleMania 27

I think Cena V Taker has also been rumoured at some stage and Cena V Rock both would be good imo and Sheamus V Taker is another match being touted and maybe Goldberg might feature in the main event or WrestleMania in some type of match how about against Edge - Spear V Spear or Randy Orton Legend Killer

D2D

Holy sh*t, the Mania 27 pre-show thread is already up:eek:

Tbh, I can't see them turning Cena heel any time soon

CMpunked

Heel cena could work well only if he is going to do the good thing and turn back as face at the end of the match.
Alà Hollywood/hulk hogan.

grames_bond

good god could you imagine if sheamus ended the streak....it would propel him into the stratusphere.......and it would make up for booking him so weak atm!

The Volt

Miz is nowhere near ready for the main event based on what we've seen the last few weeks. Everything is off about him at present. His promos are long, drawn out garbage and his in ring skills still leave a lot to be desired. At least Cena's finisher is actually decent as well. The Skull Crushing Finale getting him the 3 count over anyone on the grandest stage of them all would be a disgrace IMO.

Degag

Voltwad wrote: »

Miz is nowhere near ready for the main event based on what we've seen the last few weeks. Everything is off about him at present. His promos are long, drawn out garbage and his in ring skills still leave a lot to be desired. At least Cena's finisher is actually decent as well. The Skull Crushing Finale getting him the 3 count over anyone on the grandest stage of them all would be a disgrace IMO.

Lol, you had me until this!

The Volt

Degag wrote: »

Lol, you had me until this!

Well, half decent.

Dancor

Quick someone start a prediction game thread too

Pentecost

They obviously still have big plans for Sheamus, you wouldn't know it from current booking. It's mad that he could well be a three time WWE Champion by then. Less than two years after debuting!

chordtype

I reckon it could end up being Taker versus Cena instead of Sheamus. Cena and Taker is one of the very few big matches that they haven't done on a PPV yet. They probably did something while Cena was on Smackdown but since he moved to Raw and became the top star I don't think they've done anything substantial between the two. While I'd love Sheamus to be in the Mania main event I think he's a few years away from it at the minute. 2012 maybe but not next year. How many people would realistically buy him as a person that would end Taker's streak? He rarely even gets a clean win on Raw. It wouldn't matter if it was face versus face but if WWE did mind then they could use this as the perfect way to start turning Cena heel. Maybe have it culminating by having him cheat to win at Mania.

The Volt

chordtype wrote: »

I reckon it could end up being Taker versus Cena instead of Sheamus. Cena and Taker is one of the very few big matches that they haven't done on a PPV yet. They probably did something while Cena was on Smackdown but since he moved to Raw and became the top star I don't think they've done anything substantial between the two. While I'd love Sheamus to be in the Mania main event I think he's a few years away from it at the minute. 2012 maybe but not next year. How many people would realistically buy him as a person that would end Taker's streak? He rarely even gets a clean win on Raw. It wouldn't matter if it was face versus face but if WWE did mind then they could use this as the perfect way to start turning Cena heel. Maybe have it culminating by having him cheat to win at Mania.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3u5dy_wwe-the-undertaker-vs-john-cena-ven_sport

chordtype

Voltwad wrote: »

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3u5dy_wwe-the-undertaker-vs-john-cena-ven_sport

Ha I actually have this on DVD.

How many of the current fans though will remember this though? They haven't done it recently enough that it wouldn't feel special.

The Volt

I actually thought that would have been a perfect time for Cena to go over Undertaker.

gimmick

7 months and counting.......

paddyismaddy

at least lets get into 2011 first :rolleyes:

CMpunked

chordtype wrote: »

I reckon it could end up being Taker versus Cena instead of Sheamus. Cena and Taker is one of the very few big matches that they haven't done on a PPV yet. They probably did something while Cena was on Smackdown but since he moved to Raw and became the top star I don't think they've done anything substantial between the two. While I'd love Sheamus to be in the Mania main event I think he's a few years away from it at the minute. 2012 maybe but not next year. How many people would realistically buy him as a person that would end Taker's streak? He rarely even gets a clean win on Raw. It wouldn't matter if it was face versus face but if WWE did mind then they could use this as the perfect way to start turning Cena heel. Maybe have it culminating by having him cheat to win at Mania.

Turning cena heel would be the most straightforward option, but the two are so big that cena could simply request the match out of respect.
Kinda like hbk-taker 1.

waltersobchak

Voltwad wrote: »

Miz is nowhere near ready for the main event based on what we've seen the last few weeks. Everything is off about him at present. His promos are long, drawn out garbage and his in ring skills still leave a lot to be desired. At least Cena's finisher is actually decent as well. The Skull Crushing Finale getting him the 3 count over anyone on the grandest stage of them all would be a disgrace IMO.

Beautifully said Voltwad.. Jizlington in the Main Event of Wrestlemania = The end of me watching WWE..

CMpunked

Whenever I hear anyone mentioning the Miz I await Walters criticisms :pac:

waltersobchak

CMpunked wrote: »

Whenever I hear anyone mentioning the Miz I await Walters criticisms :pac:

Its a lot worse on the Podcast :pac:

chordtype

I also don't think Miz would be ready for a Mania main event just yet. However, to play to play devil's advocate it would be an awesome (sorry) way to get him over as a legitimate top star. The same could be said for quite a few of the guys on the roster.


They are also considering bringing back the Money in the Bank match for Mania this year according to the latest Observer. It ain't adding any real buys to Mania but again it's a good way to get a new guy over.

CMpunked

waltersobchak wrote: »

Its a lot worse on the Podcast :pac:

Oh I know. When your connections not going! :P

Mr. Guappa

If you look at the talent that WWE can book at WrestleMania, then the idea of The Miz in a high-profile spot is not that far-fetched. Potential 'Mania card:

Streak v. Super-Cena: The Undertaker v. John Cena
WWE Title: Triple H v. Edge v. Sheamus
World Title: Rey Mysterio v. The Miz
CM Punk v. Randy Orton

Thats a line-up of relatively fresh match-ups. Sheamus could be taken out of the WWE Title match as Edge-HHH has never really been done properly.

In any case they really need to start laying the groundwork for potential 'Mania encounters soon enough. Their best bet to get a good buy-rate is to build anticipation for 3 or 4 top encounters.. they have consistently failed to do this in recent years, with many matches put together as an afterthought.

Syferus

I think we need some ppv thread rules because lately we've - ok, just JP Liz - been digging way too deep into the bag of crazy and speculation to throw up these threads.

chordtype

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

CM Punk v. Randy Orton

Money right here.

The Volt

chordtype wrote: »

Money right here.

This for the World Title please. Get Mysterio away from that one.

Degag

I'd enjoy Taker v Sheamus alot more than Taker v Cena IMO. Also Cena v Miz appeals to me. Would love for the Miz to go over!

Charisteas

Wow a WM27 thread already, nice!

For me, WM really starts around December time when they have jobbers Royal Rumble qualifying matches on Raw and Smackdown. You know, when Michael Cole insults our intelligence by saying that a Goldust or a William Regal could go on to Wrestlemania by winning this match and taking the first step.

I wonder if the Undertaker/Kane feud will be drawn out until WM I am really liking this feud but I think it has the potential to be drawn out for a maximum 3 more PPV's (throw in the odd HIAC, casket, and street fight).

And what odds could you get for Wade Barrett and Alberto Del Rio to both win their first World Championships at WM?!

Is there another draft before WM27? If not, then I can't see how they could have so many of these fresh matches as mentioned above, with the exception of the Rumble winner choosing which belt and therefore which brand to fight for.

Machismo Fan

Charisteas wrote: »

Is there another draft before WM27? If not, then I can't see how they could have so many of these fresh matches as mentioned above, with the exception of the Rumble winner choosing which belt and therefore which brand to fight for.

The brand split more or less gets thrown out the window every year come WrestleMania season. I still think Cena/'Taker is the biggest match they have left and they should do it while Undertaker is in a good enough condition to deliver it.

Charisteas

Would you have that as a WHC match or no title involved. The problem (for me anyway) with an Undertaker WM match is that you know he ain't gonna lose.

Machismo Fan

Charisteas wrote: »

Would you have that as a WHC match or no title involved. The problem (for me anyway) with an Undertaker WM match is that you know he ain't gonna lose.

A match of that calibre would have to be the main event so I'd make it a title match or maybe even a title vs. title match.

gimmick

I have changed the title of this thread as it is FAR too early to have a WM pre show thread. I do not want this forum becoming like the soccer forum where people start threads weeks in advance of a match just so they can say they started a really long thread.

I would be of the view that for PPV pre show threads, within reason, should only be started after the previous one has finished. Of course the exception will be made for WM as the whole "Road To Wrestlemania" thing really kicks off in January, and some of the other bigger PPVs as well like the Rumble and Summerslam and all.

So for now, this thread is being re titled WM27 ideas etc....

Wompa1

Charisteas wrote: »

Wow a WM27 thread already, nice!

For me, WM really starts around December time when they have jobbers Royal Rumble qualifying matches on Raw and Smackdown. You know, when Michael Cole insults our intelligence by saying that a Goldust or a William Regal could go on to Wrestlemania by winning this match and taking the first step.

I wonder if the Undertaker/Kane feud will be drawn out until WM I am really liking this feud but I think it has the potential to be drawn out for a maximum 3 more PPV's (throw in the odd HIAC, casket, and street fight).

And what odds could you get for Wade Barrett and Alberto Del Rio to both win their first World Championships at WM?!

Is there another draft before WM27? If not, then I can't see how they could have so many of these fresh matches as mentioned above, with the exception of the Rumble winner choosing which belt and therefore which brand to fight for.

Wouldn't you love them to do something completely unexpected like have Golddust win the Rumble and headline Mania? Actually recognise probably the most improving in-ring performer in the last few months.

CMpunked

Yeah but only if his opponent was someone of equal value. Not a current headliner.

Syferus

CMpunked wrote: »

Yeah but only if his opponent was someone of equal value. Not a current headliner.

Cody Rhodes.

Degag

Syferus wrote: »

Cody Rhodes.

*Rings Sky to Preorder*

CMpunked

Brother vs brother match!

They're always amazing. Gonna sell my phone and laptop and head over just for it!

JP Liz V1

I'd love to see Christian win the RR and go on to face Edge at WM for the world title






PS.

I may have said this many times before ;):p

CMpunked

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

PS.

I may have said this many times before ;):p

And you'll probably say it a few more times again, won't you? :P

Rjd2

Cena v Taker must headline for so many reasons. Its the biggest match that they can do with the current roster, its fresh and the prospect of Cena ending the streak to watch the internet eplode is delicious. Taker is getting on so their is no guarantee he will be around till 2012, so it needs to happen now really.

Other matches? Impossible to guess really.

Rey v Sheamus would be excellent as would Punk v Orton. I would bring back Goldberg for a quick match as I think their is money to be made with a return for him. I would prefer The Rock but that's not going to happen.

Hunter can be in the dark match. :pac:

DM_7

Rey v Sheamus, I like It.

They should have Goldberg v The Miz.

waltersobchak

DM-ICE wrote: »

Rey v Sheamus, I like It.

They should have Goldberg v The Miz.

Blotchfest.. Though i would enjoy seeing Miz getting squashed by Bill..

chordtype

Question time. Should Danielson be put in the Money in the Bank match (assuming they have one) or should he have a programme from the Rumble until Mania? Both have their advantages. Winning Money in the Bank is a great head start into the main event picture (Hi CM. Punk) but a well built feud would allow him to showcase himself better.

DM_7

I think a Singles match could mean more. Punk only got off the ground by going heel and how he cahed in, edge also made his impact by the way he cashed in rather than winning the title of Mr MITB to start with.

So unless Danielson was going to go heel he could get a bigger boost by getting a singles match at mania.

Machismo Fan

If the thing about unifying all the titles is true, I'd love if Bryan beat The Miz tonight and Kaval eventually uses his shot to beat Ziggler and it ends up Kaval vs. Bryan at WrestleMania in a title unification match. I can hope right.

Syferus

With MitB a ppv now too I'd imagine the more benficial MitB match for him to be competing in would be there. Even then I would still imagine he'd need to really gain some unstopable momentum to actually win.

Being conservative and assuming nothing explodes or falls off - which knowing pushes in general in any organsation the probably will - WW 2012 might be a better stage for him if they were to be brave and give him a next to guaranteed title.

CMpunked

I'd love to see Goldberg vs Sheamus, or even HHH?
I can't recall trips having a match with him in his wwe run?

chordtype

CMpunked wrote: »

I'd love to see Goldberg vs Sheamus, or even HHH?
I can't recall trips having a match with him in his wwe run?

Unforiven 2003. Not a very good match at all. In fact I remember it being quite boring.

CMpunked

chordtype wrote: »

Unforiven 2003. Not a very good match at all. In fact I remember it being quite boring.

Fair nuff.
That's probably why I didn't remember it.

Scratch that one out and just leave big red and big gold.

flahavaj

Taker vs Cena (de facto heel)

Edge vs HHH (heel)

Orton vs CM Punk

Seamus vs Rey

Regal vs Danielson

Jericho (if he's still about) vs Miz

is a card I'd be happy with.

I don't really care what matches are title matches as the belts are worthless these days tbh.

I'd love to see Goldberg vs Sheamus, or even HHH?
I can't recall trips having a match with him in his wwe run?

Goldberg and HH had a feud last time he was with WWE, lasted more than one PPV AFAIR.

Charisteas

Take this with a pinch of salt, but worth a quick read.

Dave Meltzer leaks WWE's current plans for WrestleMania XXVII


According to Dave Meltzer in the September 20th 2010 Wrestling Observer Newsletter the WWE creative team are working hard to finalize the top three matches for WrestleMania XXVII by November, so they can start the hype in earnest. Here are their current sketchy plans:

• A World title unification match, as had been previously reported at Cageside Seats, featuring The Undertaker vs. Sheamus. Meltzer is still sceptical that they'll go through with the World title unification idea, because he thinks at the end of the day the anachronistic thinking that they need a World champion for both touring brands to draw will win out. He also doesn't think Sheamus is credible enough yet for fans to buy him as a streak threatening WrestleMania opponent for The Undertaker. Personally I think for the World title unification gimmick to really work, you need two guys synonymous with their respective brands to go at it and Sheamus doesn't cut the mustard. Triple H, John Cena or Randy Orton would be better choices to fly the Raw championship flag.
• John Cena vs The Miz. This is a good sign that they're fully behind The Miz's current push and have big plans for him in the future, even if this match doesn't pan out come show time.
• The Money In The Bank ladder match may be back in its traditional WrestleMania slot, due to the MITB PPV bombing.
• They may do some turns to lead to fresher matches. Talent who may get such a makeover include Jack Swagger, MVP, Kofi Kingston and R-Truth. That probably won't light the world on fire, given that all those stars have been typecast as midcarders after several start stop pushes. However, they might just be desperate enough to finally pull the trigger on turning John Cena heel, as they do realize they haven't got anything hot ready for WrestleMania, which is a riskier proposition with bigger potential upside. Expect them to go back and forth on that decision for fear of alienating the kids and women that Cena has brought to the table as their franchise babyface star of the past five years.
• Expect lots of former WCW stars to be inducted into the Hall Of Fame, given that WrestleMania is in Atlanta next year. Those being considered include Ron Simmons, Arn Anderson, Lex Luger (Vince's hatred for Luger after he jumped ship and appeared on the first Nitro show while having a handshake agreement to stay with the WWF has died down since Luger's well documented health problems), Sting (provided he doesn't re-sign with TNA), Barry Windham and Tully Blanchard. Poor Ol' Jim Ross is still pushing for Danny Hodge as he does every year. Conspicuous by his absence in being considered is Bill Goldberg, after his negotiations with WWE earlier this year quickly soured.

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irish_stevo815

I honestly can't see Sheamus V. Taker at WM27. I reckon it would just be Sheamus jobbing to the Undertaker. Wrestlemania these days is all about Taker's streak and i think the most obvious choice would be Cena V. Taker. I mean, Taker is not gonna be around for much longer, and if this is gonna be his last WM, and if WWE are gonna have some one to end the streak, who better than the No. 1 draw for the WWE Universe, John Cena. I dont think he would even have to go full heel for it. It could all start at Royal Rumble, with Cena eliminating Taker and then going on to brag about the achievement or something, leading to him challenging Taker at WM. Imagine the build up and promos for it, they would be amazing.

As for WWE/WHC Titles matches, I would like to see Orton Vs. Jericho Vs. Sheamus for the WWE Title and CM Punk Vs. Jack Swagger. And if they were going to unify the 2 titles, i would love to see CM Punk Vs. Jericho.

Another big-draw cross brand fued i would like to see is Edge Vs. Christian for the IC/US Title in a ladder match (if the MITB is gone).