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"The Origin of Specious Nonsense"

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    #2852
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,406 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    J C wrote: »
    they all seem to be describing Natural / Sexual Selection or Speciation within Kinds .... which Creation Scientists accept .......it's the unfounded claims that Pondscum 'morphed' into Man, that Creation Scientists don't accept!!!
    Which is like saying that you accept fully that you can travel from here to the door, but can't travel to the shops or the next town.
    5uspect wrote: »
    there is no further point in feeding it other than for personal amusement.
    That's the spirit :)


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    #2853
    GO_Bear
    Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


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    #2854
    The Mad Hatter
    Registered Users Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    housetypeb wrote: »
    Scanned? Scanned? Surely back in the day,when you used to be an evolutionary scientist,like you've claimed, you did more than scan it,you studied it.

    He never said he was an evolutionary scientist - he said he was a scientist and an "evolutionist". He's been very vague about what kind of scientist he was (current odds favour "computer scientist"), but it's obvious he's never studied evolution.


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    #2855
    NecroSteve
    Registered Users Posts: 165 ✭✭NecroSteve


    Thee Arte Of Treaulling.


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    #2856
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,406 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    The Mad Hatter wrote: »
    He's been very vague about what kind of scientist he was (current odds favour "computer scientist"), but it's obvious he's never studied evolution.
    This discussion must have happened fairly recently (and been missed by me) in The Other Thread? Last time I do recall it coming up there a few years back, the general consensus was that JC had a minor qualification, possibly a national diploma, in something related to agriculture.

    At the same part of the debate, all the non-creationists were quite open about their qualifications. Most were science-related degree-level from irish universities over the last twenty years or so, including a number of masters and PhD's, qualified and in progress. While JC explained that she was too frightened to say what her qualification was, nor where she gained it (if she did), nor where she is working, lest her identity be discovered and she be "persecuted" :rolleyes:


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    #2857
    housetypeb
    Registered Users Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭housetypeb


    sJc quote-The ‘proof of the pudding is in the eating’ – and I can see no logical reason why Biologists who believe in evolution should know any more than me – when I completed the same NUI degree course as themselves, indeed coming third in my finals, as I recall. quote

    Post 71 ,pg 5. nov 2005, The bible,Creationism and prophecy comedy thread.
    Back then he/she/it would give long detailed cut and paste answers to posters,now he just repeats the same few posts over and over.

    Unnecessary troll comment deleted.


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    #2858
    The Mad Hatter
    Registered Users Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    robindch wrote: »
    This discussion must have happened fairly recently (and been missed by me) in The Other Thread? Last time I do recall it coming up there a few years back, the general consensus was that JC had a minor qualification, possibly a national diploma, in something related to agriculture.

    At the same part of the debate, all the non-creationists were quite open about their qualifications. Most were science-related degree-level from irish universities over the last twenty years or so, including a number of masters and PhD's, qualified and in progress. While JC explained that she was too frightened to say what her qualification was, nor where she gained it (if she did), nor where she is working, lest her identity be discovered and she be "persecuted" :rolleyes:

    A month or two ago in the Other Thread. Wicknight made some comment about programming and suddenly J C sounded like he knew what he was talking about (more or less).


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    #2859
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    The Mad Hatter wrote: »
    A month or two ago in the Other Thread. Wicknight made some comment about programming and suddenly J C sounded like he knew what he was talking about (more or less).
    I always know what I'm talking about !!!:)


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    #2860
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    NecroSteve wrote: »
    Thee Arte Of Treaulling.
    ... just like most of the other Evolutionists on this thread, it sounds like you are quite experienced in 'Thee Arte' ... !!!:D


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    #2861
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    GO_Bear wrote: »
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    ... CFSI ... I like it!!!

    ... now listen to Lt. Horatio Caine ... and stop living in the illusion that is evolution and join the real world of Creation Science!!!


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    #2862
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    robindch wrote: »
    Which is like saying that you accept fully that you can travel from here to the door, but can't travel to the shops or the next town.
    ... no ... it's like saying that I can walk to the door and to the shops ... but I can't walk to the Moon!!!:)


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    #2863
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    robindch wrote: »
    That's the spirit :)
    Do I detect a spiritual awakening??

    The Holy Spirit is telling me that God has great plans for you, Robin.

    ... plans to prosper you ... and plans to Save you.


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    #2864
    The Mad Hatter
    Registered Users Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    J C wrote: »
    I always know what I'm talking about !!!:)

    Subjectively?


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    #2865
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    GO_Bear wrote: »
    Again, Pond scum did not morph into man, it started out with simple encapsulated self replicating DNA and over billions of years became more diverse and complex which ended up as modern man. Therein shows your lack of knowledge in the abiogenesis and evolution.
    Something that is impossible doesn't become possible by adding time. Something that is dead doesn't come back to life no matter how much time you give it.
    Materialistic processes can't do it ... but God can!!!
    GO_Bear wrote: »
    However, how is Pondscum morphing into man any less crazy than lets say , God creating man from dirt and women from one of mans ribs ?
    The difference between the two is capacity and intelligence.

    GO_Bear wrote: »
    Saved from what ?
    Hell.


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    #2866
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    The Mad Hatter wrote: »
    Subjectively?
    ... or even hypothetically ... or rhetorically!!!:D


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    #2867
    housetypeb
    Registered Users Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭housetypeb


    J C wrote: »
    ...... Something that is dead doesn't come back to life no matter how much time you give it.

    WE have been telling you bible believers that for a long time-glad to see you accept it at last.


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    #2868
    Fluffybums
    Registered Users Posts: 362 ✭✭Fluffybums


    Discussing this with JC is like trying get FF to admit that their economic policy did contribute to the hole we are in!


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    #2869
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    housetypeb wrote: »
    WE have been telling you bible believers that for a long time-glad to see you accept it at last.
    ... only God can make something that is dead come to life!!!!

    ... He did it at Creation ... He did it at the Resurrection ... and He will do it again when He returns in Glory!!!!

    ... glad to see that you accept that something that is dead ... will remain dead, unless God intervenes!!!


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    #2870
    housetypeb
    Registered Users Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭housetypeb


    J C wrote: »
    ... only God can make something that is dead come to life!!!!

    ... He did it at Creation ... He did it at the Resurrection ... and He will do it again when He returns in Glory!!!!

    ... glad to see that you accept that something that is dead ... will remain dead, unless God intervenes!!!


    Any proof for that apart from a 2000 year book of old jewish fairy tales that was put together by votes at a council?


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    #2871
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    housetypeb wrote: »
    Any proof for that apart from a 2000 year book of old jewish fairy tales that was put together by votes at a council?
    CFSI and ID.

    ... and do you have any basis for your unfounded belief in materialistic evolution ... apart from the circumspect writings of a Victorian Divinity Student?


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    #2872
    The Mad Hatter
    Registered Users Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    J C wrote: »
    CFSI and ID.

    Anything that actually exists?

    Incidentally, some day you'll see why that post of yours I linked is so hilarious. It's also further evidence that you will respond to anything, even if you don't have the first clue what you're talking about.


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    #2873
    housetypeb
    Registered Users Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭housetypeb


    J C wrote: »
    CFSI and ID.
    So the proof that god can raise people from the dead is........CFSI and Id,
    Nice one ,Jc, misdirection is your forte.


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    #2874
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    housetypeb wrote: »
    So the proof that god can raise people from the dead is........CFSI and Id,
    Nice one ,Jc, misdirection is your forte.
    The proof that an Intelligence of Divine proportions Directly Created life is found in CFSI and ID.
    ... and if He did it once, He can obviously do it again!!!!:)


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    #2875
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    The Mad Hatter wrote: »
    Anything that actually exists?
    ... everything that exists!!!;)


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    #2876
    Dan133269
    Registered Users Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭Dan133269


    J C wrote: »
    ... He did it at Creation ... He did it at the Resurrection ... and He will do it again when He returns in Glory!!!!

    When's he coming? I may want to get my good shirt out of the cleaners.


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    #2877
    GO_Bear
    Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


    J C wrote: »
    Something that is impossible doesn't become possible by adding time.

    With enough time you would be surprised what is possible.
    J C wrote: »
    Something that is dead doesn't come back to life no matter how much time you give it.

    Then what about your Jesus ? If he existed after all he was just a mortal.

    I never said something that is dead came back to life I said that over billions of years the first and most simple organism began to form Could have been just a ball of Phospholipids.

    J C wrote: »
    Materialistic processes can't do it ... but God can!!!

    Sigh
    J C wrote: »
    The difference between the two is capacity and intelligence.

    So far there has been no evidence for intelligence. ( That has not been horribly debunked)

    Even the beautiful geometric snow flake was not formed by any intelligence, just natural processes.

    By your logic we could look at the symmetries of the snow flake, say its some kind of code, and that god must have created it

    J C wrote: »
    Hell.

    Sounds no different to you heaven


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    #2878
    NecroSteve
    Registered Users Posts: 165 ✭✭NecroSteve


    J_C wrote:
    ... and do you have any basis for your unfounded belief in materialistic evolution ... apart from the circumspect writings of a Victorian Divinity Student?

    Ehhh... how about the entire science of evolutionary biology over the last century and a half?


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    CiaranMT
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    #2880
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Dan133269 wrote: »
    When's he coming? I may want to get my good shirt out of the cleaners.
    He can come for any of us at any time.


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    #2881
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    GO_Bear wrote: »
    With enough time you would be surprised what is possible.
    ... but the impossible will remain impossible.


    GO_Bear wrote: »
    Then what about your Jesus ? If he existed after all he was just a mortal.
    ... He was a mortal Man ... and an immortal God.

    GO_Bear wrote: »
    I never said something that is dead came back to life I said that over billions of years the first and most simple organism began to form Could have been just a ball of Phospholipids.
    ... and a ball of Phospholipids it would remain without the addition of CFSI via an ultimate input of intelligence.



    GO_Bear wrote: »
    Sigh
    ... I once was an evolutionist too ... and I used to also sigh a lot too !!!!


    GO_Bear wrote: »
    So far there has been no evidence for intelligence. ( That has not been horribly debunked)

    Even the beautiful geometric snow flake was not formed by any intelligence, just natural processes.

    By your logic we could look at the symmetries of the snow flake, say its some kind of code, and that god must have created it
    ... snowflakes do not exhibit CFSI ... although the have complex information within their structures ... it is neither functional nor specified ... and thus doesn't require any input of intelligence to form it.



    GO_Bear wrote: »
    Sounds no different to you heaven
    It's somewhat hotter ... and an all round much more unpleasant place to be !!!;)


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