"The Origin of Specious Nonsense"

Delirium

J C wrote: »

Evolution was what captured my imagination as a child ... and it took me al long time to realise that all those wonderful Evolution Stories I learned as a child ... where just the product of the Human imagination ... with no evidential support in the real world!!!

I'm presuming you haven't had the common courtesy to read oldrnwsr's post if you're going to make such a statement. I'd suggest you read it and actually make an attempt to discuss it instead of some attempt at wit as a reply.

Sarky

J C wrote: »

I was challenged to provide the evidence for Evolution (from our supposed single-celled common ancestor to us) ... and try as I might ... I couldn't find any evidence.

That doesn't make evolution untrue. It makes you a really bad scientist. Perhaps you could read oldrnwisr's posts? You might learn about the things you so utterly failed to see when you were a scientist. Or, more likely, pretending to be one.

J C

cowzerp wrote: »

Aswell as that it is no coincidence that in them times their was many people going around trying to create followers in their brand of fear/religion, Jebus was just the best sales man and knew a good baker, and wine! last thing the people needed, could have got them some milk or water but nothing wins fans better than the gargle.

I'll drink to that!!!

Alcohol, consumed responsibly, is one of God's greatest gifts to mankind.
Used irresponsibly, just like food, sex or any other gift from God ... it can create great harm and destruction.

J C

cowzerp wrote: »

Ok, if their was proof that their was a god i would automatically buy into the whole thing, now a genuine question to you-If their is proof that Evolution exists and it was not intelligent design would you be willing to agree.

As a working scientist, I always go where the evidence leads.
... so if the evidence unambiguoulsy lead to the conclusion that we all evolved from a microbe I would accept it.
... the opposite is actually the case at present ... with all of the unambiguous evidence pointing towards Creation.

J C

Evade wrote: »

That's a bit contradictory, isn't it?

I meant M2M Evolution (of any type) i.e. Theistic or Materialistic types.

I have no issue with genetic drift and speciation within Kinds ... which some people would term 'evolution'.

Sarky

working scientist, lol. You don't know the first thing about it.

This unambiguous evidence that you have for years utterly failed to present. Are you going to get around to that any time soon? Or will you just repeat the same old crap we've debunked multiple times in this thread alone?

J C

wrote:

Originally Posted by J C
I was challenged to provide the evidence for Evolution (from our supposed single-celled common ancestor to us) ... and try as I might ... I couldn't find any evidence.


Sarky
That doesn't make evolution untrue. It makes you a really bad scientist. Perhaps you could read oldrnwisr's posts? You might learn about the things you so utterly failed to see when you were a scientist. Or, more likely, pretending to be one.

Can you provide any unambiguous evidence Evolution from our supposed single-celled common ancestor to us?
If you can, please provide it.
... and if you can't, please stop making unfounded criticism of my scientific abilities!!!:(

Sarky

J C wrote: »

Can you provide any unambiguous evidence Evolution from our supposed single-celled common ancestor to us?
If you can, please provide it.
... and if you can't, please stop making unfounded comments on my scientific abilities!!!:(

My comments are not unfounded. Any time you've attempted to sound scientific, you've done an appalling job. Start showing some ability, and I'll stop remarking on how shoddy a scientist you are.

Again, perhaps you could read some of oldrnwisr's posts? They do cover more or less all the stuff you should have known if your laughable claims of "being an evolutionist" were true.

Delirium

J C wrote: »

Can you provide any unambiguous evidence Evolution from our supposed single-celled common ancestor to us?
If you can, please provide it.
... and if you can't, please stop making unfounded comments on my scientific abilities!!!:(

with due respect, JC, your dismissal of evolution even though there are frequent posts containing an abundance of information/evidence for evolution shows that they aren't unfounded comments.

Doctor Jimbob

J C wrote: »

Can you provide any unambiguous evidence Evolution from our supposed single-celled common ancestor to us?
If you can, please provide it.
... and if you can't, please stop making unfounded criticism of my scientific abilities!!!:(

Lol.

Corkfeen

J C wrote: »

Curses (and blessings), witches and God are real ... Leprechauns aren't.

Wait a second...... Witches are real too? :eek: And you wonder why we think you're bat**** crazy.... So, do you think the witch trials were justified? This thread really does go to very strange places....

Sarky

I feel it appropriate to point out the time J C actually thought I was a priest of Dagon. Watching him trying to save me from the fictional creation of a 20th century horror writer was just about the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen.

Barr125

Sarky wrote: »

I feel it appropriate to point out the time J C actually thought I was a priest of Dagon. Watching him trying to save me from the fictional creation of a 20th century horror writer was just about the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen.

That is, by far, the funniest thing I've seen from JC so far XD

Sarky

Creationists try to slip a book past Springer publishers by labelling it dishonestly so it goes to an editor without the biological knowledge that would instantly see through it. Some well-known deceivers named in there, including J C's BFF Dembski. I particularly like how they say they held a conference at Cornell University, when more accurately they were at the Cornell School of Hotel Administration, which has general public conference facilities where anyone can book a few rooms and talk about any old crap. Not exactly the same as a university conference, when the spin is removed.

Lying for Jebus, indeed.

J C

Corkfeen wrote: »

Wait a second...... Witches are real too? :eek: And you wonder why we think you're bat**** crazy.... So, do you think the witch trials were justified? This thread really does go to very strange places....

I don't think the Witch Trials were justified ... but Black and White Witches do exist.

dlofnep

J C wrote: »

I don't think the Witch Trials were justified ... but Black and White Witches do exist.

Define witch.

J C

Sarky wrote: »

Creationists try to slip a book past Springer publishers by labelling it dishonestly so it goes to an editor without the biological knowledge that would instantly see through it. Some well-known deceivers named in there, including J C's BFF Dembski. I particularly like how they say they held a conference at Cornell University, when more accurately they were at the Cornell School of Hotel Administration, which has general public conference facilities where anyone can book a few rooms and talk about any old crap. Not exactly the same as a university conference, when the spin is removed.

If some Evolutionists put as much effort into looking closely at Evolution as they do in trying to stop ID in its tracks ... they might actually realise what a complete load of baloney that M2M Evolution actually is!!!!

... and which part of 'there was a really exciting symposium at Cornell organised by myself and some associates' do you not understand????

... or has plain English lost all of its meaning

Quote:-
Well, it turns out that Darwin's theory is coming down. And there was a really exciting symposium at Cornell organised by myself and some associates, and it was entitled 'Biological Information: New Perspectives'. And basically it was over 120 people gathered, about half of them PhDs, 25 speakers were PhD scientists [who] talked about the reality [of] number 1: biological information in living systems is astounding, wonderful, beautifully [?] and wonderfully made and number 2: it is coming undone. And this conference had people from every field, from physicists, bio-physicists, chemists, biochemists, mathematicians, geneticists, molecular biologists, computer scientists. All these people came together. We were agreed one one thing, and that is that Darwin was wrong."

Please bear in mind that Universities are publicly funded institutions paid for by taxpayers (i.e.people of all religions and none) money ... so all conventional scientists are entiled to use their conference facilities irrespective of whether they have a religious belief that they are a Monkey's cousin ... or not, as the case may be!!!:(

Delirium

you must have a brass neck to be so brazen to continue dismissing evolution when you've completely ignored oldrnwsr's post.

It's only made look more ridiculous by your (purposely, I'd wager) misunderstanding of Sarkys post.

Bannasidhe

dlofnep wrote: »

Define witch.

Many Wiccan's consider themselves to be witches. On the whole I have found them to be a broad-minded, tolerant, generous group of individuals - and very good with swords or at least all the Connacht based ones I have met are...

Doctor Jimbob

J C wrote: »

I don't think the Witch Trials were justified ... but Black and White Witches do exist.

dlofnep

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Many Wiccan's consider themselves to be witches. On the whole I have found them to be a broad-minded, tolerant, generous group of individuals - and very good with swords or at least all the Connacht based ones I have met are...

I'm not exactly sure what a witch is.

Sarky

A definition doesn't seem to be forthcoming. I wonder if that means they're complex, functional and/or specified?

Also lol at J C getting his knickers in a twist over being shown his heroes lied about a book in the hopes it would pass peer review by sending it to people who were not actually peers. Watch J C defend them to hilt. Watch the sheer mental backflips he attempts so that the whole sorry mess of creationist lies still make sense in his mind. Watch, and laugh.

J C

koth wrote: »

you must have a brass neck to be so brazen to continue dismissing evolution when you've completely ignored oldrnwsr's post.

It's only made look more ridiculous by your (purposely, I'd wager) misunderstanding of Sarkys post.

Life is too short to wade into those long posts of oldrnwsr ... that haven't provided any substantive evidence for Evolution ... despite the mutual admiration society that has grown up around them.

For example, the most recent mega-post is a rehash of a list of different creatures based on their physical characteristics ... with an Evolution Story bolted onto the list.
There is nothing to show how any of these creatures could spontaneously produce the CFSI necessary to progress from one supposed stage to the next one.
... and the whole edifice is completely undemined by the fact that living creatures at practically every supposed stage in the story exist today.
... so instead of being an over-arching description of the supposed evolution of life ... it turns out to be a pedestrian description of the array of different creatures that are alive today ... with a few extict creatures thrown in for good measure.:)

Sarky

J C wrote: »

Life is too short to wade into those long posts of oldrnwsr ... that haven't provided any substantive evidence for Evolution ... despite the mutual admiration society that has grown up around them.

In other words, you're not able to address them, and haven't even read them properly.

"Life is too short"? You have thousands of posts in here full of unsubstantiated crap and outright lies, and you're not facing up to this because life's too short? Do you realise how retarded that is?

Bannasidhe

dlofnep wrote: »

I'm not exactly sure what a witch is.

http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/wicca.htm has a pretty good explanation.

J C

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Many Wiccan's consider themselves to be witches. On the whole I have found them to be a broad-minded, tolerant, generous group of individuals - and very good with swords or at least all the Connacht based ones I have met are...

... are you referring to their use of the Athame ... which is more like a knife than a sword???

Sarky

Oh! Oh! He's trying to appear authoritative on something else now!

<popcorn>

Delirium

J C wrote: »

Life is too short to wade into those long posts of oldrnwsr ... that haven't provided any substantive evidence for Evolution ... despite the mutual admiration society that has grown up around them.

I've bolded the damning part of the quote above. Don't ever claim that you treat posters with respect on this thread again. You've boldly stated that you just didn't bother with a post that had a lot of time, thought and effort put into it. It's incredibly disrespectful to oldrnwsr to state that you didn't read his post.

Do you ignore all posts? You owe one poster, and probably more, a massive apology for the disrespectful way you've not responded to the post(s).

For example, the most recent mega-post is a rehash of a list of different creatures based on their physical characteristics ... with an Evolution Story bolted onto the list.

No it's not. It's an excellent display of how evolution occurs through history to get us to modern man.

There is nothing to show how any of these creatures could spontaneously produce the CFSI necessary to progress from one supposed stage to the next one.

CFSI has nothing to do with evolution, or science for that matter. It remains an undefined property that allegedly bolsters the argument for creationism.

... and the whole edifice is completely undemined by the fact that living creatures at practically every supposed stage in the story exist today.

The quote above speaks for itself with the glaring ignorance of evolution.

... so instead of being an over-arching description of the supposed evolution of life ... it turns out to be a pedestrian description of the array of different creatures that are alive today ... with a few extict creatures thrown in for good measure.:)

Afraid not. It's clearly a post that is beyond your comprehension, but don't despair, JC. If you crack open a few books you may one day get to grips with the basics.

and btw, don't forget to apologise to the posters that you disrespected. It's the adult thing to do.

Doctor Jimbob

J C wrote: »

Life is too short to wade into those long posts of oldrnwsr ... that haven't provided any substantive evidence for Evolution ... despite the mutual admiration society that has grown up around them.

For example, the most recent mega-post is a rehash of a list of different creatures based on their physical characteristics ... with an Evolution Story bolted onto the list.
There is nothing to show how any of these creatures could spontaneously produce the CFSI necessary to progress from one supposed stage to the next one.
... and the whole edifice is completely undemined by the fact that living creatures at practically every supposed stage in the story exist today.
... so instead of being an over-arching description of the supposed evolution of life ... it turns out to be a pedestrian description of the array of different creatures that are alive today ... with a few extict creatures thrown in for good measure.:)

Ah but sure J C you've got an eternity in the afterlife, surely you could humour us by putting the effort in to reply?

Bannasidhe

J C wrote: »

... are you referring to their use of the Athame ... which is more like a knife than a sword???

No, I am referring to the fact that most of them are professional re-enactors who specialise in Vikings, Gaelic Irish and Crusaders - so by swords I mean swords. Bloody great big swords. And axes. And halberds.