"The Origin of Specious Nonsense"

Genghiz Cohen

dead one wrote: »

koth, you have problem with understanding, i ain't sayingthat you believe voodo or blah blah----
You said


and then i said, why do believe in camera (leave the magic) ---

There has come a new game "limbo"-- play it i hope i the puzzles of this game would build your mind and understanding....:)

It's very simple.

I think that a camera took those photos because I've seen hundreds of similar photos, I can go out right now with my phone and create similar photos. It's just like a peer review. Mr. A says he can do something by using a defined method, I try to replicate his result by using his method, I can therefore I accept his method is a way of achieving said result.

It could be that something else made that picture but since a person holding a camera is the most likely cause of such an image and I can replicate it, I think that is the reasonable conclusion to come to.

Galvasean

POINTBREAK wrote: »

It must all be true. It was written in a book!

Turtwig

Improbable

dlofnep

dead one wrote: »

Do you know how huge this universe is???

The size of the universe is not validation for a celestial onlooker.

dead one wrote: »

and what do you mean by "evidence"....

You know, something that proves the truth of an assertion. Something you severely lack.

dead one wrote: »

Are you saying that God should show himself...

No, I'm saying that it's very unlikely that such a figure exists to actually show themselves.

dead one wrote: »

Here are some point if you leave your arrogance behind

1) No man can see the maker in the life of this world ( http://quran.com/6/103)
2) On the Day of Judgment, your sight will be acute, very sharp and piercing. (Verse http://quran.com/50/22 )
3) Only the Believers will see their LORD in the Hereafter ( http://quran.com/75/22-23 ).

The Qur'an is not a scientific text. It is no more credible or valid than the hundreds of other religious texts seen throughout documented history, up to and including all of the new religious cults like Mormonism and Scientology. I really don't care what the book states - it does not make the assertions true, nor does it give merit to it's teachings.

dead one wrote: »

Now when you say no to God and when you say there is no evidence which support existence of God..... You are making a claim to have absolute knowledge...

No, I am not making an absolute claim. I have stated that all of the definitions of God than have ever been presented have not fulfilled the burden of proof required to make me believe that such a being exists. I have never once stated that it is impossible for such a being to exist, but rather that the probability of such a being existing is very low based on current science.

That is not 'absolute knowledge'. You're cluttering the issue.

dead one wrote: »

because you are speaking on behalf of yourself.... I ain't speaking on behalf of myself but a book which claim to be from the Lord of all universe.... you have any doubt here is exact verse

So, you're reading a book that's over a millennium old - and proclaim it to be the truth, based on what exactly? What is it that you a privy to, that the rest of us just haven't seen?

dead one wrote: »

again when you say there is no evidence for God, you are talking on base of your bias..... You claim to have absolute knowledge --- As you have seen and searched every part of this universe...

No, I don't claim to have absolute knowledge. I have already clarified this. But it's irrelevant. I don't have absolute knowledge on whether fairies exist or not, but I'm pretty sure that they don't.

You come across as someone who simply hasn't debated these issues before, because they have all been addressed in detail.

dead one wrote: »

You believe in non intelligent evolution which is greater myth than of zeus, If i were you i would prefer to believe in zeus than believing in non intelligent materialistic god... I make no difference between you and those who believe in zeus....

You're deflecting from the question. I will ask it again.

Do you believe that Zeus, the God of Sky and Thunder exists? I want you to reply with a yes, or a no. If yes - explain why - if no, explain why. It's a simple question.

Galvasean

Improbable

Genghiz Cohen

I like where this thread is headed

Turtwig

Genghiz Cohen

Turtwig

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

I like where this thread is headed

It was your excellent idea.:D

Genghiz Cohen

Malty_T wrote: »

It was your excellent idea.:D

Well I am amazing in every way...

liamw

Look at all you materialist evolutionists trying to derail the discussion becuase you can't answer how CFSI can spontaneously produce pondkind to mankind without an intelligent creator

Turtwig

liamw wrote: »

Look at all you materialist evolutionists trying to derail the discussion becuase you can't answer how CFSI can spontaneously produce pondkind to mankind without an intelligent creator

Poor, very poor. Where is the colour man? C'mon show us a little of that sparkle.

dlofnep

liamw wrote: »

Look at all you materialist evolutionists trying to derail the discussion becuase you can't answer how CFSI can spontaneously produce pondkind to mankind without an intelligent creator

Who created this said intelligent creator? Or does he get a free pass?

When you say from pondkind to mankind - You'll have to clarify if you're referring to abiogensis (the origins of life), or the evolution of species from primitive species to advanced species such as homo sapien.

I'll be more than happy to entertain a debate with you.

Turtwig

dlofnep wrote: »

Who created this said intelligent creator? Or does he get a free pass?

When you say from pondkind to mankind - You'll have to clarify if you're referring to abiogensis (the origins of life), or the evolution of species from primitive species to advanced species such as homo sapien.

I'll be more than happy to entertain a debate with you.

The creator is a timeless changeless, mutable entity that exists beyond the realm of this present universe.

Pondslime to mankind.

dlofnep

Malty_T wrote: »

The creator is a timeless changeless, mutable entity that exists beyond the realm of this present universe.

How convenient for him.

Turtwig

dlofnep wrote: »

How convenient for him.

Convenience has no bearing on whether or not something is true.;)

dlofnep

Malty_T wrote: »

Convenience has no bearing on whether or not something is true.;)

Indeed it doesn't.

Turtwig

dlofnep wrote: »

Indeed it doesn't.

Yet again the evolutionist must admit defeat.:D

liamw

Turtwig

liamw wrote: »

http://images.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/9661962.jpg

It's CSFI ya loon.:pac:

Penn

Malty_T wrote: »

It's CSFI ya loon.:pac:

That's why you can't explain it :P

Turtwig

Barrington wrote: »

That's why you can't explain it :P

Actually I did explain it.:pac:

liamw

dlofnep wrote: »

I'll be more than happy to entertain a debate with you.

I'd be happy to continue the troll but I just can't bring myself to even pretend to be a creationist.

robindch

^^^ I knew this thread would finally come good

Turtwig

liamw wrote: »

I'd be happy to continue the troll but I just can't bring myself to even pretend to be a creationist.

You're scared of the truth! You're so hooked to your demonic atheistic ways that you fear losing them. All you need to do is believe in O Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved. Open your heart up a little.

dlofnep

liamw wrote: »

I'd be happy to continue the troll but I just can't bring myself to even pretend to be a creationist.

Won't you at least play devil's advocate for a bit?

robindch

Malty_T wrote: »

The creator is a timeless changeless, mutable entity

Changeless and timeless, but still mutable? Weird...!

Malty_T wrote: »

All you need to do is believe in O Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.

Malty, Malty!

"Believe in"? You're only "saved" if you "believe on" -- check the last line here!

Turtwig

dlofnep wrote: »

Won't you at least play devil's advocate for a bit?

That would require being rational, the debate would be over very quickly!