Football Betting Thread

bobby wade

Not sure if this is allowed but wheres your money going??

Won on

Over Oregon State (Win),
Eastern Michigan (Win),
Western Michigan (Push)

Lost on

Oregon State +13.5
Unlv +20.5
Western Kentucky +37.5
Utah State +34
Arkansas State +30.5

western kentucky let me down by 1.5 points

D3PO

Won on

BYU

Fresno St, TCU, SMU +13.5 accumulator


Lost on

USC - 21.5

Still have

Boise - 1.5 (part of an acca with Tipperary at 6/4 (not american football but still )

bobby wade

Boise St could go either way, close one to call

Have taken the over on both tonights NCAA games

D3PO

bobby wade wrote: »

Boise St could go either way, close one to call

true here are my reasons for picking em though

1) Motivation levels. Still a chip on their shoulder to get the respect they deserve

2) Not a true home game for VT

3) More balanced offense. If they stop VT running the ball, VT are in big trouble

4) Kellen Moore is a winner 22-1 as a starter. Ice running through the guys veins

5) returning 21 of 22 starters

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My bets for this week (taken from my log over in the gambling forum). For those that are unfamiliar with the points system, it's basically just a scale between 1 and 5 where 1 point is a bet representing low confidence, but an outside chance, and 5 points shows high confidence and what I think is a sure thing.

Time for the regular season baby!

Sunday 12th September 1:00pm ET (6:00pm Irish Time)
Cincinnati Bengals @ New England Patriots
3 pts - Winner - New England Patriots (-4.5) @ 10/11 (Bet365)

Tom Brady has looked like the Tom Brady we know and love this preseason. His knee injury is well and truly behind him, so expect him to light up the NFL this season. I think the Pats have just too many weapons for the Bengals to deal with, who are under a lot of pressure given the intense focus they've been under this preseason. To stop Brady, you need to get him, and the Bengals just don't have that good of a pass rush. Brady's record as a starter in home games has me very confident they can cover the spread here.


Sunday 12th September 1:00pm ET (6:00pm Irish Time)
Carolina Panthers @ New York Giants
1 pts - Winner - Carolina Panthers (+6.5) @ 10/11 (Bet365)

I usually look for a clear favourite, and then see if the spread is suitable. There's no clear favourite here, so a spread of +6.5 for the Panthers is too tempting to turn down. The Giants have the pressure of performing in the opener of their new stadium. An interesting stat I've read is that favourites have lost 8 times from 11 when opening a new stadium in the NFL over the past 15 years. Aside from that, both teams should focus on running the ball, with the passing game lacking a bit. That should see more field goals than touchdowns in third and long situations, which goes nicely with this spread bet.

Sunday 12th September 1:00pm ET (6:00pm Irish Time)
Detroit Lions @ Chicago Bears
3 pts - Winner - Detroit Lions (+6.5) @ 10/11 (Bet365)

This is the value bet of the week for me. A spread of +6.5 for the Lions is too generous to turn down. I'm loving whats going on in Detroit. Matthew Stafford is a stud, Calvin Johnson is the most freakishly athletically skilled player in the NFL, and Jahvid Best looks like a star in the making at RB. Despite all this, the best thing the Lions have going at the moment is the addition of Nate Burleson. Now, Burleson is nowhere near those three in terms of star power, but what does do is open it up for the playmakers. This is the first time Calvin Johnson has had a legitimate threat lining up across the field from him, so it will take some coverage away from him, which also helps the running game of course. Jay Cutler on the other hand doesn't look much improved from last season if what we've seen from preseason is anything to go by, and while Matt Forte should bounce back from last years dismal failing, he doesn't carry the same threat as he used to. Expect this to be a scorefest, although I wont be doing any overs/unders in the first week.

Sunday 12th September 4:15pm ET (9:15pm Irish Time)
San Francisco 49ers @ Seattle Seahawks
4 pts - Winner - San Francisco 49ers (-3.0) @ Evens (Bet365)

Wow, so let me get this straight. The Seahawks, a team in rapid decline with an old, beat up Quarterback, one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL, sub-par running backs (and still not knowing which one is their preferred starter), and minus their stud draft pick, are expected to keep up with a 3 point spread against a team with Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree and a badass defence captained by the best linebacker in the business? I'm all over this one like a bad rash, but Im so confident of it winning, I imagine it's a sexually transmitted rash after a night of passion with Cheryl Cole, so I don't feel too bad about it.

I'll also be doing a weekly 1 pts accumulator for the heck of it. This weeks selection is:

Miami Dolphins (-3.0) @ Buffalo Bills
Green Bay Packers (-2.5) @ Philadelphia Eagles
San Diego Chargers (-4.5) @ Kansas City Chiefs
San Francisco 49ers (-2.5) @ Seattle Seahawks

1 pts @ 11/1 (Bet365)

Note: You might notice some of the spreads are different in the accumulator to what Bet365 are showing. That's because I placed the accumulator over a week ago, so there were different spreads available. From now on that shouldn't be the case as I'll only bet on the upcoming weeks action.

Also, 3 of the games I'm betting on will be on TV this week.

Panthers @ Giants
49ers @ Seahawks
Chargers @ Chiefs

They're all on Sky at their respective times, so you have no excuse not to get fully involved if you're following this thread

Here's to a great season of football!

eagle eye

I'll put up a bet every week too.

I'm interested in buying money so sometimes it will be just a non-spread accum. but this week its a double.

Detroit Lions +6.5
Miami Dolphins -3

Those are the two games you should be concentrating on.

I'll also put up games where people seem ready to jump aboard and lump on that I think you should leave alone.

Do not back the 49ers
The 49ers lost to Seattle last year in Seattle, this Seattle team is better than last season. The Seahawks are excellent against the run which takes a lot away from the 49ers offense. Its all on Alex Smith's shoulders and I don't think he is good enough. If San Fran win here it will be a minor shock to me, backing them minus points is just ridiculous. I think Seattle will win this but its not a betting proposition.

Do not back Green Bay
I think the Packers are a wonderful team but the Eagles are always in the picture and are one of the most successful teams over the last decade. They have got much younger too on offense with McNabb and Westbrook gone and Kolb taking over with Vick as his backup and Mike Bell coming in to back up McCoy. They have a solid defensive line with some top corners. The running game could cause them problems here but I don't see Rodgers putting up huge yardage. And most importantly they are at home in this game. The biggest thing that people fail to understand is the importance of home advantage in the NFL. With really weak teams it obviously doesn't matter but with big teams they rarely lose at home and the Philadelphia Eagles are a big, big team.

fatgav

Colts away to Houston are intriguing for me. Like the Lions as well, but worried that everyone is. Chiefs may do me proud against San Diego, but I am a fan so not sure whether that's my head or heart speaking, and if the over/under is an any way respectable in the Bengals/Patriots game then I'll take the over for sure.

eagle eye

fatgav wrote: »

Colts away to Houston are intriguing for me. Like the Lions as well, but worried that everyone is. Chiefs may do me proud against San Diego, but I am a fan so not sure whether that's my head or heart speaking, and if the over/under is an any way respectable in the Bengals/Patriots game then I'll take the over for sure.

Yeah I forgot all about the over/under.

I'll be having a look at the overs in the Colts/Texans and Bengals/Patriots games. They should be really high scoring. I think both are highly like to go over 50 points. So if its at 46ish I'll jump on the over.

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eagle eye wrote: »

Do not back the 49ers
The 49ers lost to Seattle last year in Seattle, this Seattle team is better than last season. The Seahawks are excellent against the run which takes a lot away from the 49ers offense. Its all on Alex Smith's shoulders and I don't think he is good enough. If San Fran win here it will be a minor shock to me, backing them minus points is just ridiculous. I think Seattle will win this but its not a betting proposition.

That win last season is very misleading though. They won with a field goal as the clock expired, and the 49ers just had an off day. Anything that could have went wrong, did go wrong - they just had no luck.

» Incompletions on third and fourth downs from the Seattle 1 in the opening quarter.

» A fumble on a punt-return reverse botched by Arnaz Battle and Brandon Jones.

» Another fumble by Gore, when the 49ers finally dusted off the mothballed runner. It was forced by Jordan Babineaux at the Seattle 22 and returned 43 yards by Josh Wilson to set up Mare's first field goal of the final quarter.

» Davis having Smith's would-be touchdown pass zip through his hands and off his facemask in the end zone while down 17-14 late in the game.

Frank Gore was only given 9 rushing attempts in that game too, I expect him to be given a lot more this time round. The 49ers are fresh, their starters were rested for the majority of preseason (in comparison to other teams).

Im also not sure how you reckon the Seahawks are great against the run. They're good, but nothing more than that and finished 15th and 18th the past two seasons against the rush, and came 5th last in rushing TDs against last season. In their last 10 games last year, they also gave up over 113 rushing yards 8 times.

The 49ers will stomp all over them imo. Carroll was a great college coach, but this is the NFL - he didn't fare too well last time he was in the league, and Mike Singletary will put absolutely everything into this game because he's vicious like that.

eagle eye

Archimedes wrote: »

That win last season is very misleading though. They won with a field goal as the clock expired, and the 49ers just had an off day. Anything that could have went wrong, did go wrong - they just had no luck.



Frank Gore was only given 9 rushing attempts in that game too, I expect him to be given a lot more this time round. The 49ers are fresh, their starters were rested for the majority of preseason (in comparison to other teams).

Im also not sure how you reckon the Seahawks are great against the run. They're good, but nothing more than that and finished 15th and 18th the past two seasons against the rush, and came 5th last in rushing TDs against last season. In their last 10 games last year, they also gave up over 113 rushing yards 8 times.

The 49ers will stomp all over them imo. Carroll was a great college coach, but this is the NFL - he didn't fare too well last time he was in the league, and Mike Singletary will put absolutely everything into this game because he's vicious like that.

Carroll wasn't too bad with the Patriots either in fairness. He handed over a fine team to Bill Belichick.
I don't rate Mike Singletary at all.

Do you want to remind of what Frank Gore did on his 9 rushes in that game? I couldn't be bothered checking but I think it was 29 yards iirc.

Don't forget home advantage, its huge. Don't overestimate Alex Smith. Don't underestimate Pete Carroll.

We'll see on Sunday anyways but I really see the Seahawks winning this game. I don't see anybody on the 49ers who can match up with Mike Williams who imo is about to become one of the elite receivers in the NFL. The talent was always there, he hasn't shown it since he was in USC but he has been awesome in preseason. He combines speed, strength and he is all of 6'5" tall, its why he was the no.10 pick a few years back.

Carroll is no fool and he didn't dump Housh without a receiving corp he is very happy with. Deoin Branch is the other guy and if he comes back to being half the man he was a couple of years ago then they are going to tear the 49ers apart with deep balls.

eagle eye

Let me add again by the way that I don't think the game is a betting proposition. I'm not saying with huge certaintly that the Seahawks win it. The x factors in this game are on the 49ers side and they are Alex Smith primarily, and then Crabtree and Vernon Davis if Smith has a good game. You couldn't trust Smith though.

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eagle eye wrote: »

Carroll wasn't too bad with the Patriots either in fairness. He handed over a fine team to Bill Belichick.
I don't rate Mike Singletary at all.

Well Singletary is 7-2 against divisional rivals so far, so in this case, he has his credentials.

eagle eye wrote: »

Do you want to remind of what Frank Gore did on his 9 rushes in that game? I couldn't be bothered checking but I think it was 29 yards iirc.

It was actually less than that, but I wouldn't draw too much conclusions from it. We all know what Gore is capable of, he's one of the best at breaking for long runs in the NFL which is his biggest threat, so 9 carries isn't a fair reflection of what he can do.

eagle eye wrote:

Don't forget home advantage, its huge.

Im not forgetting it, but on opening day, it's not that big of a factor. Last year, home teams were 12-20 against the spread on the opening day.

eagle eye wrote:

Don't overestimate Alex Smith. Don't underestimate Pete Carroll.

Im estimating Alex Smith about right, last year he threw for 310 yards, 2 touchdowns and 0 interceptions against the Seahawks. I certainly trust him.

As for Pete Carroll, it's been a while since he's been in the NFL so I'll have to see how he does this year before I can judge him.

eagle eye wrote:

We'll see on Sunday anyways but I really see the Seahawks winning this game. I don't see anybody on the 49ers who can match up with Mike Williams who imo is about to become one of the elite receivers in the NFL. The talent was always there, he hasn't shown it since he was in USC but he has been awesome in preseason. He combines speed, strength and he is all of 6'5" tall, its why he was the no.10 pick a few years back.

Carroll is no fool and he didn't dump Housh without a receiving corp he is very happy with. Deoin Branch is the other guy and if he comes back to being half the man he was a couple of years ago then they are going to tear the 49ers apart with deep balls.

I agree with your Williams praising, love the guy, but his production very much hinges on what Hasselbeck can do, and I just think he'll struggle a lot this year. The Seahawks 2 leading receivers from this fixture last year are no longer in Seattle, so it's very much an uphill struggle for them imo.

One things for sure, one of us is gonna crash and burn this weekend!

eagle eye

Archimedes wrote: »

One things for sure, one of us is gonna crash and burn this weekend!

I'm not betting on the game, I just see it as one to stay far away from. If the 49ers win so be it, its no money out of my pocket.

I see a thumping either way as unlikely but possible, I see a close win either way as very likely. Basically I think any result in this game is equally possible.

If anything backing the Seahawks straight presents value but I just wouldn't recommend any bet on the game and that includes over/unders and everything else.

bobby wade

Minnesota Vikings @ New Orleans Saints : Adrian Peterson Total Rushing Yards Over 85.5 20/23

Carolina Panthers @ New York Giants : Handicap Betting Carolina Panthers +7 EVS

D3PO

eagle eye wrote: »

Do not back the 49ers
The 49ers lost to Seattle last year in Seattle, this Seattle team is better than last season. The Seahawks are excellent against the run which takes a lot away from the 49ers offense. Its all on Alex Smith's shoulders and I don't think he is good enough. If San Fran win here it will be a minor shock to me, backing them minus points is just ridiculous. I think Seattle will win this but its not a betting proposition.

Do not back Green Bay
I think the Packers are a wonderful team but the Eagles are always in the picture and are one of the most successful teams over the last decade. They have got much younger too on offense with McNabb and Westbrook gone and Kolb taking over with Vick as his backup and Mike Bell coming in to back up McCoy. They have a solid defensive line with some top corners. The running game could cause them problems here but I don't see Rodgers putting up huge yardage. And most importantly they are at home in this game. The biggest thing that people fail to understand is the importance of home advantage in the NFL. With really weak teams it obviously doesn't matter but with big teams they rarely lose at home and the Philadelphia Eagles are a big, big team.

I agree I dont like either of those plays. I think Seattle will do well this year. Carroll is a smart cookie and I expect them to be a bit of a surprise package.

D3PO

My picks this week

College

Georgia Tech - 14 Versus Kansas
LSU -10 Versus Vandy
Stanford - 6 Versus UCLA

NFL

Miami - 3 Versus Buffalo
Atlanta +2.5 Versus Pitt
Baltimore +2.5 Versus NYJ

Oat23

Probably going to go with this accumulator.

Broncos
Phins
49ers
Colts
Bucs
Bears

Odds were around 21.5/1 when I looked earlier.

eagle eye

eagle eye wrote: »

I'll put up a bet every week too.

I'm interested in buying money so sometimes it will be just a non-spread accum. but this week its a double.

Detroit Lions +6.5
Miami Dolphins -3

Those are the two games you should be concentrating on.

I'll also put up games where people seem ready to jump aboard and lump on that I think you should leave alone.

Do not back the 49ers
The 49ers lost to Seattle last year in Seattle, this Seattle team is better than last season. The Seahawks are excellent against the run which takes a lot away from the 49ers offense. Its all on Alex Smith's shoulders and I don't think he is good enough. If San Fran win here it will be a minor shock to me, backing them minus points is just ridiculous. I think Seattle will win this but its not a betting proposition.

Do not back Green Bay
I think the Packers are a wonderful team but the Eagles are always in the picture and are one of the most successful teams over the last decade. They have got much younger too on offense with McNabb and Westbrook gone and Kolb taking over with Vick as his backup and Mike Bell coming in to back up McCoy. They have a solid defensive line with some top corners. The running game could cause them problems here but I don't see Rodgers putting up huge yardage. And most importantly they are at home in this game. The biggest thing that people fail to understand is the importance of home advantage in the NFL. With really weak teams it obviously doesn't matter but with big teams they rarely lose at home and the Philadelphia Eagles are a big, big team.

eagle eye wrote: »

Yeah I forgot all about the over/under.

I'll be having a look at the overs in the Colts/Texans and Bengals/Patriots games. They should be really high scoring. I think both are highly like to go over 50 points. So if its at 46ish I'll jump on the over.

What a sweet day.:D

D3PO

D3PO wrote: »

My picks this week

College

Georgia Tech - 14 Versus Kansas (LOSS) -100
LSU -10 Versus Vandy (WIN) +91.91
Stanford - 6 Versus UCLA (WIN) +91.91

NFL

Miami - 3 Versus Buffalo (WIN) +91.91
Atlanta +2.5 Versus Pitt (LOSS) -100
Baltimore +2.5 Versus NYJ (WIN) +91.91

Wk 1 Profit/Loss + €1081.81
Wk 2 Profit/Loss + €166.64

Season to date + €1248.45

eagle eye

Just had a look at tonights games now.

Opening Monday nights have a history of being high scoring games but I just can't see that between the Ravens and Jets. The under 36.5 looks good to me.

The other game is the Chiefs/Chargers and the 45 is the line in that one and the under looks good there too. The Chiefs have been working hard on the front seven, which contains a couple of young first rounders from the last couple of drafts. This team has Scott Pioli as GM, with Charlie Weis as OC and Romeo Crenell as DC. They basically have all the important figures outside of Bill Belichick from the Patriots Superbowl winning teams. This is not to be underestimated and a shock could be on the cards tonight. We have to see them first though to be sure but I think the under 45 is highly likely tonight.

So I'm doing the double on both the unders tonight.

eagle eye

D3PO

Good week for ya Eagle.

OK one myself didnt do any accas though so that limited my profit. time to get looking for wk3/2 value

Peyton Manning

This is what Im going with this weekend.

Sunday 19th September 4:15pm ET (9:15pm Irish Time)
New England Patriots @ New York Jets
3 pts - Winner - New England Patriots (-3.0) @ Evens (Bet365)

Sunday 19th September 1:00pm ET (6:00pm Irish Time)
Miami Dolphins @ Minnesota Vikings
1 pts - Winner - Miami Dolphins (+6.0) @ 5/6 (Bet365)

Sunday 19th September 1:00pm ET (6:00pm Irish Time)
Baltimore Ravens @ Cincinnati Benfals
3 pts - Winner - Baltimore Ravens (-2.0) @ 10/11 (Bet365)

trionz

Last Week:
€10 Accum: 49ers, Texans, Atlanta, Cleveland, Jags -€10
€60: Fins (-3) €50
€10 Double: SD (-4.5), Ravens -€10
€10 Double: Mark Sanchez Under (165.5 YDS), Matt Cassel Under (210.5 YDS) €23.61

Total Week 1 Profit/Loss = €53.61

This Week:
€10 Accum: Baltimore Ravens @ 4/5, Kansas City Chiefs @ Evens, Detroit Lions (+6.0) @ 10/11
€0.80 Accum (For the Craic): Saints @ 5/12, Colts @ 5/12, San Diego Chargers @ 10/37, New England Patriots @ 8/11, Houston Texans @ 20/29, Seattle Seahawks @ 6/4, Oakland Raiders @ 5/11, Carolina Panthers @ 1/2, Baltimore Ravens @ 4/5, Kansas City Chiefs @ Evens, Minnesota Vikings @ 5/12, Atlanta Falcons @ 1/3, Dallas Cowboys @ 10/39, Philadelphia Eagles @ 5/13, Tennessee Titans @ 5/12, Green Bay Packers @ 1/7

eagle eye

This week I like the Packers -13 and the Vikings -5.5. I will double those two.

All the over/unders seem very tight this week and the ones I'm tempted to take on just have question marks that if answered the wrong way will make sure I'm wrong so I won't be doing anything else.

Teams not to back.

New England Patriots @ New York Jets
Everybody was blown away by the Patriots last week but this is not a game to back them in. The Patriots/Jets is a fierce rivalry, that stadium will be deafening when the Patriots are on offense. I have no doubt that the Patriots offense is electric and it could be the best New England offense ever but the Jets only let the Ravens have 10 points last week. The Patriots defense looked really good early last week but they have to show some consistency before I'll call them a good D. I still have a real worry that the Jets running game could cause us big trouble. I'm a Patriots fan for many years and we've often went there with great expectations and come away with nothing. Its definitely the 'do not touch' game of the weekend for me.

Baltimore Ravens @ Cincinatti Bengals
Another huge divisional rivalry. Joe Flacco looked poor last week, the Ravens only scored 10 points against the Jets. The Bengals were well beaten last week and people will look at the Patriots game and the Patriots putting up 38 points, they will also say that the game was over when the Bengals started scoring but maybe they just didn't get it together early. The Bengals are at home where they lost two early games last season but won the other 6. The beat the Ravens both home and away last season too. Anything could happen in this game and I'd stay miles clear of it.

D3PO

havent decided this weekends bets yet

but tonights College game ive taken

Cincinnati off scratch v NC State @ 11/10 my usual €100 stake

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Looking at some college games at the weekend, I'll only be placing 3 bets, but I can only narrow it down to these five:

Utah (-23.0) @ New Mexico
Boise State (23.0) @ Wyoming
Alabama (-23.0) @ Duke
Houston (-3.0) @ UCLA
Arkansas (+2.5) @ Georgia

Im almost certain to go for Utah and Houston individually, and stick the other 3 in an accumulator. Boise State know they have to run up big numbers to keep their BCS hopes alive, so I'd be pretty confident they can do it. Bama have Ingram and Dareus back, which should ensure the scoreline gets pretty ugly at Duke, and Ryan Mallet looks just too damn good to bet against, while I was not impressed with Georgia last week.

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Utah and my 3 team accumulator came in. Houston lost, but I made up for it with an in-play on Iowa +14.5. Ridiculous really, if you had been following the game you'd have seen how crazy that spread was. I was all over it.

Couple of bets for tomorrow, aside from those mentioned.

Ray Rice over 72.5 rushing yards @ 5/6
Carson Palmer under 240.5 passing yards @ 5/6

darsar

Archimedes wrote: »

Ray Rice over 72.5 rushing yards @ 5/6
Carson Palmer under 240.5 passing yards @ 5/6

Where are you getting a price from? I can't see on Boyles or PP....

LightningBolt

Week 2

Bills @ Packers -13.5 @ 10/11
Saints @ 49ers -5.5 @ 10/11
Texans @ Skins -3 @ 10/11

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darsar wrote: »

Where are you getting a price from? I can't see on Boyles or PP....

Bet365 under Player Performances.