When did Skangers become Chavs?

Fergus

I say save the Skanger. I've noticed the English term 'Chav' gradually invading the Irish vernacular lately and it's just not on.

admiralofthefleet

[skanger voice]startin are ye[/skanger voice]

Poor Uncle Tom

Fergus wrote: »

I say save the Skanger. I've noticed the English term 'Chav' gradually invading the Irish vernacular lately and it's just not on.

Where were you for the last 5 years?

stovelid

Fear not, they're going nowhere it would seem:


http://www.google.ie/#hl=en&q=+site%3Aboards.ie+skanger+boards.ie&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=dcde362106438001

http://www.google.ie/#hl=en&q=+site:boards.ie+scumbag+boards.ie&sa=X&ei=b2ODTISBF9TNjAfn-5ybCQ&ved=0CBoQrQIwAA&fp=dcde362106438001

Sea Sharp

A skanger is a Dublin chav.

King Felix

What do you call a chav in a box?

Innit.

galwayrush

I don't care what they are called, i was hoping the Government would have allowed someone like the Ward Union Hunt to cull them( in season of course) to replace hunting stags ...

Fergus

A chav is an English skanger!

Stercus Accidit

Fergus wrote: »

I say save the Skanger. I've noticed the English term 'Chav' gradually invading the Irish vernacular lately and it's just not on.

Grow the fuck up will ye?

We speak English, England is our closest neighbour and speaks the same language as us, we have very similar cultures, we import so much of their media, bbc, newspapers, music and we are subjected to their culture, voluntarily, all the time.

Heaven forbid a new word comes up in their language, which we speak, that gets adopted.

I love the word by the way.

Everytime I see a brits out/bad/chucky are law style post I lament for the ignorance of the poster, and there are plenty of them.

Biggins

Fergus wrote: »

When did Skangers become Chavs?...

When some of us gave up thinking for ourselves and adopted another countries society characteristics and values.

Stercus Accidit

Biggins wrote: »

When some of us gave up thinking for ourselves and adopted another countries society characteristics and values.

Speak of the devil.

King Felix

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

Grow the fuck up will ye?

We speak English, England is our closest neighbour and speaks the same language as us, we have very similar cultures, we import so much of their media, bbc, newspapers, music and we are subjected to their culture, voluntarily, all the time.

Heaven forbid a new word comes up in their language, which we speak, that gets adopted.

I love the word by the way.

Everytime I see a brits out style post I lament for the ignorance of the poster, and there are plenty of them.

+1

English and American words and phrases have always been entering our lexicon, it just used to take a long time.

With the advent of the information age the time it takes words/phrasing to skip the pond is accelerated.

Who cares?

karlog

Sure there all scumbags anyway.

Biggins

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

Speak of the devil.

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Cantona's Collars

Foreign students come here to learn English as they have found we speak better English than the English themselves.Anyhow terms and phrases will always cross borders,still prefer the term skanger to chav though.
They'll all be out in their Sunday best tracksuits today,stop one and ask what they'd like to be called.

Stercus Accidit

Biggins wrote: »

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My post above yours.

We speak English, we import their media and therefore culture, we HAVE our own cultural identity, but using a new word isn't as you put it above.

Do you read English papers, watch BBC, watch a British film?

I like the word chav, I don't apply it in lieu of skanger, but its not like I speak much Irish on a daily basis now is it?

Biggins

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

My post above yours.

We speak English, we import their media and therefore culture, we HAVE our own cultural identity, but using a new word isn't as you put it above.

Do you read English papers, watch BBC, watch a British film?

I like the word chav, I don't apply it in lieu of skanger, but its not like I speak much Irish on a daily basis now is it?

I hear what your saying and I agree to a good extent.
Each nation has its own version of mini inner cultures or sub-culture classifications
(Japan is a case in point - some are just bizarre)

Our "Skangers" though seems to have adopted characteristics/mannerisms of our English neighbours and you rightly state also to an extent, why this is so.

Fergus

King Felix wrote: »

English and American words and phrases have always been entering our lexicon, it just used to take a long time.

With the advent of the information age the time it takes words/phrasing to skip the pond is accelerated.

Who cares?

I don't disagree, but I'd be sorry to see Dublin loose too much of its unique character, and I guess I feel about the usurping of language the same way I do about how Grafton St was whitewashed into a collection of UK chain stores.

Biggins

Fergus wrote: »

I don't disagree, but I'd be sorry to see Dublin loose too much of its unique character, and I guess I feel about the usurping of language the same way I do about how Grafton St was whitewashed into a collection of UK chain stores.

In fairness although your right to an extent too, we also have European style/based shops and cafes (not just on Grafton st) - and that's besides the growing number of new African/Eastern Europe food shops as well.
Thats a multi-culture society for you.

It up to the individual how one takes all this additional outer cultural aspects on board and how they adopt it to their own means and ends.

Shakeandbake!

When did Skangers become Chavs?

When they started driving white import civics with sewer pipe exhausts and da boot full of wicked ice 4 da soundz :P

changes

IMO a skanger is a bit more extreme than a chav. People have described cheryl cole as a chav, but i deff couldn't see her described as skanker.

Wagon

King Felix wrote: »

What do you call a chav in a box?

Innit.

What do you call a chav in a filing cabnet?

Sorted.

A Dub in Glasgo

I have been living in Britain since 1991 and I have never said chav. I say either skanger or ned [the Glasgow term].

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Hate the word chav, it's sooo annoying.

I'd rather be called a scumbag than a chav(if I was one:P), chav is such a shít word.

Sofiztikated

Apparently, in Belgium they're called Johnnies. And the female variant is called Marina.

bnt

"Skanger" has too many syllables, "chav" is shorter. If you think I'm exaggerating, recall the "death peno" thread a few weeks ago: we have muppets on this forum too lazy to say all three syllables of "penalty". :rolleyes:

ballsymchugh

a chav is actually a native of chatham in kent. a hole of the highest order. take a walk down the high street there and you have kids wheeling their kids in prams with names like destinee and burberry. i have witnessed that myself. *shudders*

Sofiztikated

ballsymchugh wrote: »

a chav is actually a native of chatham in kent. a hole of the highest order. take a walk down the high street there and you have kids wheeling their kids in prams with names like destinee and burberry. i have witnessed that myself. *shudders*

Noone is sure where the term chav originated.

Has be mooted:

Council Housed And Violent
Council House Vermin
A resident from Chatham.
Cheltanham Average
Romani term "Chavi" meaning child.

Probably easier if I provide

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav

I know its wiki, but its not a thesis, it can be referenced.

Irish Guitarist

I'd say skanger is a Dublin term more than an Irish one. I'd never even heard the word until I looked at Boards.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

I'd say skanger is a Dublin term more than an Irish one. I'd never even heard the word until I looked at Boards.

I've heard it plenty down the country.

Dionysus

Saw a guy with a shiny tracksuit, baseball cap and the works in a pub a few months back and all I could manage was: oh Jesus (which I said out loud to the laughter of a randomer next to me who turned and said "I couldn't agree more!".)

I didn't even get to "scumbag" or even "skanger", "gurrier", "knacker" and the like. And "chav" would never have entered my head (then again I never watch British soccer, soaps or reality shows).

Jim

Nack is also acceptable.

It's the same way a lot of people have starting using the word "lame". Lame.

moonpurple

sadly if only skangers were like chavs
but they are not that good

goose2005

Fergus wrote: »

I say save the Skanger. I've noticed the English term 'Chav' gradually invading the Irish vernacular lately and it's just not on.

Tá an ceart agat, ní chloisim ach an Béarla ó mhaidin go hoíche.

Up de Barrs

Its just part of the ongoing anglicisation of the country. Most people now refer to the Guards as "the police".

King Felix

Up de Barrs wrote: »

Its just part of the ongoing anglicisation of the country. Most people now refer to the Guards as "the police".

Next they'll be calling 'Sraid Ui Choinaill' 'O'Connell Street'.

PeterIanStaker

Skangers became chavs in 2005, when the first specimen that de-evolved was discovered. Evolutionary biologists predict the next step in this evolutionary cul-de-sac will be a Nike pigeon.

starbelgrade

King Felix wrote: »

What do you call a chav in a box?

Innit.

What do you call a chav in a box with a lock on it?

Safe.

Tar.Aldarion

It's knackers. The other words are annoying.

Donkey Oaty

goose2005 wrote: »

Tá an ceart agat, ní chloisim ach an Béarla ó mhaidin go hoíche.

Welcome, non-Irish speakers. He said, "You are right. I don't hear anything but English from morning to night."

WesternZulu

I just call them dubs!

soundbyte

King Felix wrote: »

Next they'll be calling 'Sraid Ui Choinaill' 'O'Connell Street'.

Don't you mean Sackville Street? :pac:

HavingCrack

Never heard anyone I know use the word chav instead of scanger and I've lived all my life Dublin

HavingCrack

Up de Barrs wrote: »

Its just part of the ongoing anglicisation of the country. Most people now refer to the Guards as "the police".

Like who

take everything

King Felix wrote: »

+1

English and American words and phrases have always been entering our lexicon, it just used to take a long time.

With the advent of the information age the time it takes words/phrasing to skip the pond is accelerated.

Who cares?

Word.

bigbadbear

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

Grow the fuck up will ye?

We speak English, England is our closest neighbour and speaks the same language as us, we have very similar cultures, we import so much of their media, bbc, newspapers, music and we are subjected to their culture, voluntarily, all the time.

Heaven forbid a new word comes up in their language, which we speak, that gets adopted.

I love the word by the way.

Everytime I see a brits out/bad/chucky are law style post I lament for the ignorance of the poster, and there are plenty of them.

I hate you the above comments anger me. Lets all becaome english because we are close. on yer bike before i get me chav mates after ya

Misanthrope

Biggins wrote: »

When some of us gave up thinking for ourselves and adopted another countries society characteristics and values.

there's no need to be importing a term for creatures we describe so poetically ourselves with words like skanger
zook
scobe
knacker
gurrier
wacker
scut
scumbag
..... to name just a few

THall04

Misanthrope wrote: »

there's no need to be importing a term for creatures we describe so poetically ourselves with words like skanger
zook
scobe
knacker
gurrier
wacker
scut
scumbag
..... to name just a few

I use the term "Student"
Having some trouble enjoying the Robert De Niro film on telly now , thanks to about 20 of them roaring their heads off after a long Monday nights drinking..:mad:

Sticky_Fingers

starbelgrade wrote: »

What do you call a chav in a box with a lock on it?

Safe.

How do you greet a middle class wannabe skanger?

Alright there sham

me-skywalker

THall04 wrote: »

I use the term "Student"
Having some trouble enjoying the Robert De Niro film on telly now , thanks to about 20 of them roaring their heads off after a long Monday nights drinking..:mad:

CAN YOU TURN IT UP WE CANT HEAR IT!!

Amazotheamazing

Same with the word "pikey", doesn't really bother me but it's another sign of growing blandness of hiberno-english.