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RyanAir to scrap Co-Pilots

  • 05-09-2010 8:04am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭Voltex


    Looks like Ryanair is leading the World once again when it comes to coming up with novel ways to save costs.

    M.O.L will scrap the co-pilot and train in a stewardess to be able to land a plane should the Captin not be able to.

    http://news.scotsman.com/uk/Michael-O39Leary-call-to-scrap.6513610.jp

    But would you fly on a commercial ircraft that has only 1 pilot?

    (and I know its a publicity stunt)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    No they won't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭Ian Beale


    Great idea, the pilot has a heart attack and then even if he manages to ring the bell for the steward he might not be able to unlock the door. What could possibly go wrong?

    Wait this is AH, perhaps replace them all with trained chimps?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    O'Leary does it again.

    Anyone with a right mind would see that this is a wind-up from the following:
    "If the pilot has an emergency, he rings the bell, he calls her in," O'Leary said. "She could take over."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,351 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Michael O'Leary in outlandish headline grabbing claim shocker!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭chughes


    I wonder how many 1 euro flights he could subsidise if he reduced his own salary to an average of what he pays his Ryanair staff ?

    I bet he hasn't thought of that as a way of saving the company money :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,786 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    If anything, the OP thread title is the alarmist thing here. Ryanair is not scrapping Co-Pilots.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The OP is a tabloid journo !!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭karlog


    Voltex wrote: »
    M.O.L will scrap the co-pilot and train in a stewardess to be able to land a plane should the Captin not be able to.

    (and I know its a publicity stunt)

    Obviously a publicity stunt. You cant train a woman to land a plane.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    chughes wrote: »
    I wonder how many 1 euro flights he could subsidise if he reduced his own salary to an average of what he pays his Ryanair staff ?

    I bet he hasn't thought of that as a way of saving the company money :rolleyes:

    I'm sure he's thought of it and then realised he isn't a hippy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭giles lynchwood


    the technology is already in place for pilotless flights but the public are not ready for it yet.www.gizmodo.com


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    amacachi wrote: »
    No they won't.
    Exactly.

    There are too many international adopted rules and regulations in this area alone.
    The man is talking thru his ass again for the sake of publicity.
    Can't happen, won't happen.
    Not one European country flight authority will allow this stunt to come to pass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    chughes wrote: »
    I wonder how many 1 euro flights he could subsidise if he reduced his own salary to an average of what he pays his Ryanair staff ?

    I bet he hasn't thought of that as a way of saving the company money :rolleyes:

    Why would he do that? He deserves every penny he earns, the man is a business genius no matter what personal feelings people have toward him. He almost single handily changed air travel so that it is accessible to everyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,465 ✭✭✭Kiwi_knock


    O'Leary only said that because he realised he has not been in the news recently and he needed to say something sensational to grab the headlines again.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    Better still. Why not make the co-pilot air-hosts, drop a few air-hostesses that can't fly and then you don't have to worry about training people to land a 737.

    Doesnt make sense really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭King Felix


    Better still. Why not make the co-pilot air-hosts, drop a few air-hostesses that can't fly and then you don't have to worry about training people to land a 737.

    Doesnt make sense really.

    Or equip all the passengers with parachutes. Save on landing fees.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    karlog wrote: »
    Obviously a publicity stunt. You cant train a woman to land a plane.
    LOL

    You know if there is a heaven, Amelia Earhart is going to kick your backside! :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭Manic Preacher


    It's hilarious that people get angry at O'Leary when he's clearly winding them up. O'Leary is like the playground prankster and all these other guys are the kids that take everything literally and fail to see it for what it is


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    It's hilarious that people get angry at O'Leary when he's clearly winding them up. O'Leary is like the playground prankster and all these other guys are the kids that take everything literally and fail to see it for what it is
    The lack of comprehension and un-awareness of actual reality in this country astounds me sometimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Biggins wrote: »
    The lack of comprehension and un-awareness of actual reality in this country astounds me sometimes.


    Only sometimes?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Only sometimes?
    Well once in a while a bright young "spark" actually (to his/her credit) manages to see something for what it really is.
    Its to the likes of them I would trust with my future.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Blackpitts


    i know where O'Leary is taking all his brilliant ideas from!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 228 ✭✭LevelSpirit


    Biggins wrote: »
    LOL

    You know if there is a heaven, Amelia Earhart is going to kick your backside! :pac:

    The flying (or maybe just the landing part) thing didnt work out for her either :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Thief


    I find it amazing how many people get upset when O'Leary opens his mouth.
    The man is a publicity creating genious!

    Michael%20O%27Leary.jpg


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    The flying (or maybe just the landing part) thing didnt work out for her either :)
    :pac:

    Dunno, Maybe she did land after taking the requested photos by the American government and then shot as a spy by the then Japanese!

    See: http://www.woa.tv/articles/hi_earharta_spy.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,257 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Biggins wrote: »
    :pac:

    Dunno, Maybe she did land after taking the requested photos by the American government and then shot as a spy by the then Japanese!

    See: http://www.woa.tv/articles/hi_earharta_spy.html

    She's shacked up with Elvis, he likes mature women.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    She's shacked up with Elvis, he likes mature women.
    So your ma told me last night. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,257 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Biggins wrote: »
    So your ma told me last night. :p

    Have you been playing with that Ouija board again?:eek:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Have you been playing with that Ouija board again?:eek:
    It might explain those weird dreams alright. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    karlog wrote: »
    Obviously a publicity stunt. You cant train a woman to land a plane.

    Or drive , Or drive and park a car.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,113 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    can't teach an old trick new tricks


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Marco Bitter Uterus


    msg11 wrote: »
    Or drive , Or drive and park a car.

    cant train a man to stop making pathetic old sexist jokes either apparently


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    bluewolf wrote: »
    cant train a man to stop making pathetic old sexist jokes either apparently

    Who's joking? Cause I ain't I am been deadly serious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    <Ryanair ad here>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭ch750536




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,969 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Saw the article this morning and choose not to give Ryanair free publicity by starting a thread on it here

    But knew it would be done anyway, they realy are a great company for getting free publicity


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    so if the stewardess or even the steward is flying the plane, who'll serve the overpriced soft drinks and pringles?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    I know this is a publicity stunt, but I'd genuinely never fly with RyanAir again. I'm attempting to avoid them like the plague already (AerLingus is regularly cheaper) but sometimes the deals are too good to pass if I just need to go to London for the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭Groinshot


    really, removing the other guy isn't doing much, not like ryanairs piots can land a plane anyway. and besides, if a bus driver has a heart attackm everyone on the bus will die, there's no spare bus driver... if a pilot has a heart attack, and there's no co-pilot, couldn't someone on the plane take over really? I mean, surely a steward has to if the co-pilot dies too? so it can't be THAT difficult to land a jet (coming from someone who's landed a two seater plane) If the rest of it is computerised completely...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    Voltex wrote: »
    Looks like Ryanair is leading the World once again when it comes to coming up with novel ways to save costs.

    M.O.L will scrap the co-pilot and train in a stewardess to be able to land a plane should the Captin not be able to.

    http://news.scotsman.com/uk/Michael-O39Leary-call-to-scrap.6513610.jp

    But would you fly on a commercial ircraft that has only 1 pilot?

    (and I know its a publicity stunt)


    If you wish not to die, please insert your credit card.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    So the air hostess trains to become a pilot which preumably puts her in a higer wage bracket while allowing her to look for a job with another airline as a ...pilot ? .

    Quote John Bishop ''

    in the possible event of emergencies Ryanair will soon charge £1 for the oxygen masks to drop , yes that's right, only £1 '' .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Giselle


    bluewolf wrote: »
    cant train a man to stop making pathetic old sexist jokes either apparently

    Or punctuate, capitalise appropriately or spell.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    Groinshot wrote: »
    really, removing the other guy isn't doing much, not like ryanairs piots can land a plane anyway. and besides, if a bus driver has a heart attackm everyone on the bus will die, there's no spare bus driver... if a pilot has a heart attack, and there's no co-pilot, couldn't someone on the plane take over really? I mean, surely a steward has to if the co-pilot dies too? so it can't be THAT difficult to land a jet (coming from someone who's landed a two seater plane) If the rest of it is computerised completely...

    Mythbusters did an episode about an untrained person landing a plane. They were in a simulator and a guy 'on the ground' talked them into manually landing successfully.

    And then at the end the guy said it was pointless as they wouldn't actually have to land it 'manually', they could just program in the runway number and glide slope (or something like that, im sure some aviation guys will correct me! :pac:) and the plane can land itself.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    And then at the end the guy said it was pointless as they wouldn't actually have to land it 'manually', they could just program in the runway number and glide slope (or something like that, im sure some aviation guys will correct me! :pac:) and the plane can land itself.

    Autoland is possible, but I have yet to see a computer system which is capable of responding to unanticipated problems. That's really what the pilots are there for now, in case the systems go wrong. Or they run into birds or whatever. Autoland would probably not have chosen to put US1549 into the Hudson.

    NTM


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    Autoland is possible, but I have yet to see a computer system which is capable of responding to unanticipated problems.

    There's plenty of humans who can't do that very well either :pac: Including trained pilots.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Blackpitts wrote: »
    i know where O'Leary is taking all his brilliant ideas from!

    Cool. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    Biggins wrote: »
    LOL

    You know if there is a heaven, Amelia Earhart is going to kick your backside! :pac:


    Don't forget Pussy Galore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,010 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    Autoland is possible, but I have yet to see a computer system which is capable of responding to unanticipated problems. That's really what the pilots are there for now, in case the systems go wrong. Or they run into birds or whatever. Autoland would probably not have chosen to put US1549 into the Hudson.

    NTM

    Maybe. But most pilots would not have bothered either. Those people were just lucky that they actually had the guy who wrote the book on flying a jetliner into water there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    Ryanair are just going to dispense with pilots and cabin crew. Anyone who shows up to the airport with excess baggage or who hasn't checked in online will be given the offer of waived fees if they read a ten page manual on flight operations and handle the rest.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Don't forget Pussy Galore.
    Indeed and her female squad! :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    isn't it just terrible how a private company runs their company matters,just terrible :rolleyes:


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