Sights and Sounds of 9/11

bobblepuzzle

Anyone just see this documentary on Channel 4?

I thought it was really good, loads of footage I hadn't seen before... also the emergency radio conversations were neatly laid in

For anyone who missed it you can watch it on Channel 4 OD http://www.channel4.com/programmes/1...ca/4od#3119675

chirogirl

Yeah I found it interesting to watch. 9 years went quick!

CrazyBiscuit

I just watched it, the quietness of some of it was very eerie (as expected).

bobblepuzzle

hard to believe it's 9 years :eek: I was just starting 6th year when it happened...

sigh, I'm getting old

Nodin

I was in work. The first reports said 'plane crashed into....' and for some reason in my mind I had pictured a Cesna or some similar light aircraft.

kfallon

Not seen the documentary but I'll never forget that day, prob the last time I cried for non family reasons

Just watched it - was excellent.

CrazyBiscuit

I was pulling a sicky from school and so watched it all live on the tv.

bobblepuzzle

For anyone who missed it you can watch it on Channel 4 OD http://www.channel4.com/programmes/102-minutes-that-changed-america/4od#3119675

Highly recommend it

It was actually called 102 minutes that change America... my bad:P

The HorsesMouth

Brilliant documentary.

At first I was a bit disappointed with no commentary in the background explaining what was going on but its amazing how little words and more visual images adds to the intensity of what happened,like you can almost place yourself there.

Absurdum

what happened?

My name is URL

It's a great documentary alright.. it's a bloody scary scenario and was laid out very well through personal footage and candid dialogue. It really puts into perspective how people reacted to it before all of the political weight was added to the mix

Herb Powell

was this the one made from footage people shot, and pieced together chronologically? if so, I've seen it, and I thought it was excellent, very interesting

stovelid

Really good documentary.

Outside of the harrowing nature of it, the way that some of the deserted streets were captured with the light coming through the thick dust were eerily beautiful: like weird moonscapes.

Brought you right back to the panic and disbelief of the time.

last name ever. first name greatest

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

Anyone just see this documentary on Channel 4?

I thought it was really good, loads of footage I hadn't seen before... also the emergency radio conversations were neatly laid in

For anyone who missed it you can watch it on Channel 4 OD http://www.channel4.com/programmes/1...ca/4od#3119675

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Iwasfrozen

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Superbus

I thought of this the other day - imagine if Twitter had existed in 9/11 to the extent it does today.

That'd have really been something - messages from the Towers etc.

hmm call me cynical but loads of that looked staged to me very odd some of it

JONJO THE MISER

I remember i was in the bookies and was more concerned about winning back the money i had lost than watching it, 9 years:eek:

epgc3fyqirnbsx

Brooks Tasty Rehabilitation wrote: »

hmm call me cynical but loads of that looked staged to me very odd some of it

you're quite cynical

bobblepuzzle

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

I remember i was in the bookies and was more concerned about winning back the money i had lost than watching it, 9 years:eek:

obviously you didn't relise the significance of what was happening or you have one hell of a gambling addiction... which is it? :rolleyes:

orourkeda

It was an excellent document.

It was almost like the aftermath of a nuclear attack in certain sections and was quite unsettling. There was a lot of footgae that I'd never seen before

well isnt strange nobody was swearing ?? they all seemed quite composed considering the situation ?

epgc3fyqirnbsx

Brooks Tasty Rehabilitation wrote: »

well isnt strange nobody was swearing ?? they all seemed quite composed considering the situation ?

No one said much at all, seemed more shell shocked

bobblepuzzle

Brooks Tasty Rehabilitation wrote: »

well isnt strange nobody was swearing ?? they all seemed quite composed considering the situation ?

erm I heard swearing...

orourkeda

Brooks Tasty Rehabilitation wrote: »

hmm call me cynical but loads of that looked staged to me very odd some of it

Staged? I'm not so sure.

However, there are some reasonable questions that remained unresolved shall we say.

I was never entirely sold on the idea of it being staged but I believe it's reasonable to ask if more could have been done to prevent it.

carefulnow100

Brooks Tasty Rehabilitation wrote: »

well isnt strange nobody was swearing ?? they all seemed quite composed considering the situation ?

Amercians dont sware as much as people think!

I thought some parts showed how people didnt grasp the reality of the situation
anyone see the partwhere the guy was explaning
"I was 15 minutes from being in that building, I work in there!"
"wow you must know alot of people in there"
"yeah everyone on my floor, BUT I was 15 minutes from being in there, Monday night football saved my life! 15 minutes"

As other posters said alot of previously unseen footage, IMO alot of other documentries teel the story through someones eyes with there opinion ie. with commentary. I think the great thing about this one is there is no commentary and you listen to your own thoughts abot what you would think if you were there and not what someone in commentary would be saying.
I found the part where the camera was in Times Sq. and the part Itilain guy ( I think) said "we should be going to war right now" This comment was made before it was stated who carried out the attacks. I feel Different opinions for George Bush now, If the majority public out look was anywhere near that guys outlook then he would have been under sever pressure to go to war in the first place.

ok well maybe i am wrong but it just felt like a nice repackaged sanitised version of what happened . The couple with the cutes kids in the apartment going oh my lord those poor people when people were falling out of the towers. When in reality when people were falling out of the building people in the streets were laughing and shouting for them to jump and cheering when they did.

I would prefer a documentary on the attack on the pentagon havent seen many on that .

stovelid

carefulnow100 wrote: »

anyone see the partwhere the guy was explaning
"I was 15 minutes from being in that building, I work in there!"
"wow you must know alot of people in there"
"yeah everyone on my floor, BUT I was 15 minutes from being in there, Monday night football saved my life! 15 minutes"
.

Thought he just sounded in shock myself.

Or just American, maybe.

Superbus

If the guy who said that there was 30 or 40,000 people per building was correct then it was actually an incredibly good rescue effort that the total was 3,000.

carefulnow100

stovelid wrote: »

Thought he just sounded in shock myself.

Or just American, maybe.

I suppose its unfair for me to judge! I cant put myself in his position!:o

bobblepuzzle

Brooks Tasty Rehabilitation wrote: »

When in reality when people were falling out of the building people in the streets were laughing and shouting for them to jump and cheering when they did.

Do you have evidence of this?? or is it your own twisted imagination? :mad:

Nodin

Superbus wrote: »

If the guy who said that there was 30 or 40,000 people per building was correct then it was actually an incredibly good rescue effort that the total was 3,000.

The first plane hit just around 9 or before, with only (relatively )few early birds and cleaners inside. What he was referring to was when the building were full. Had the first hit at 9.30 - 10 it would have been far far worse.

lilblackdress

Unbelievable documentary but i had to stop watching.... Makes me sick thinking that someone i know died in that and what he was going through! He was one of the last bodies recovered and was in a lift with 5 others. I think it's a very smart and brilliant looking programme just a lil too close to home for me.

Superbus

Nodin wrote: »

The first plane hit just around 9 or before, with only (relatively )few early birds and cleaners inside. What he was referring to was when the building were full. Had the first hit at 9.30 - 10 it would have been far far worse.

Ah right. Fortunate in a way then.


Whoever provided that link, thank you. Excellent documentary.

fontanalis

Brooks Tasty Rehabilitation wrote: »

ok well maybe i am wrong but it just felt like a nice repackaged sanitised version of what happened . The couple with the cutes kids in the apartment going oh my lord those poor people when people were falling out of the towers. When in reality when people were falling out of the building people in the streets were laughing and shouting for them to jump and cheering when they did.

I would prefer a documentary on the attack on the pentagon havent seen many on that .

If by "in reality" you mean "when not at all", you are right.

Pretty_Pistol

Brooks Tasty Rehabilitation wrote: »

well isnt strange nobody was swearing ?? they all seemed quite composed considering the situation ?

They were in shock. I remember watching it on the TV and being speechless. Imagine being right there.

Brooks Tasty Rehabilitation wrote: »

When in reality when people were falling out of the building people in the streets were laughing and shouting for them to jump and cheering when they did.

I doubt anyone who was witnessing people falling to their death were finding it funny. Were you there?

WesternNight

I hadn't seen it before so I watched it tonight. I just couldn't help thinking, when people were in such shock before the towers fell, that they had no idea what was about to happen.

The guys shouting about killing, like, the whole middle-east bothered me. But I guess it's not overly surprising that some people would think like that.

bobblepuzzle

WesternNight wrote: »

The guys shouting about killing, like, the whole middle-east bothered me. But I guess it's not overly surprising that some people would think like that.

I found that unsettling also, but then I go back 9 years and think that thats what I'd prob be thinking... Imagine a British terror cell bombed Dublin with thousands of casualties.... I'm pretty sure people would be saying exterminate the brits etc... but with time rationalisation kicks back in

easyeason3

I was in a hairdressers when the first plane crashed.
By the time the second one crashed I was on my merry way down to a pub for some lunch. By the time I got there it was obvious it was a terrorist attack.
My cousin worked in those towers so the hunger went off me very fast. I noticed a lot of people having lunch didn't actually finish what they had & some more of the lunch trade were arriving in. But they didn't eat, they looked for tea & coffee, I guess they just wanted to see what was going on.
The image of the black woman wearing a pearl necklace covered in white dust has stayed with me, as the memory of people throwing themselves out of windows .

bobblepuzzle

easyeason3 wrote: »

I was in a hairdressers when the first plane crashed.
By the time the second one crashed I was on my merry way down to a pub for some lunch. By the time I got there it was obvious it was a terrorist attack.
My cousin worked in those towers so the hunger went off me very fast. I noticed a lot of people having lunch didn't actually finish what they had & some more of the lunch trade were arriving in. But they didn't eat, they looked for tea & coffee, I guess they just wanted to see what was going on.
The image of the black woman wearing a pearl necklace covered in white dust has stayed with me, as the memory of people throwing themselves out of windows .

It was an appallingly sad day... not only did those people who simply went to work that day not make foreign policy, but a monument & beacon to the world of economic freedom was destroyed x2...

johnmcdnl

I remember being still in primary school and on the way home in the car Tony Fenton or Larry Gogan or whoever had the 2FM afternoon show was reading Nostradamus's prediction - remember then getting home and my grandmother was waiting in the kitchen and just telling us that there's 1000s dead in America and there's just planes crashing into everything in New York - can just remember so clear still to this day... ****ing scared the ****e outta me because I was so young and just remember hoping that they wouldn't start attacking Ireland...

9 years ago is hard to believe but it's one of those events that we're always gonna remember for as long as we live I suppose...

Didn't see the program but I'll give it a look when I get a chance...

JerryHandbag

Brooks Tasty Rehabilitation wrote: »

hmm call me cynical but loads of that looked staged to me very odd some of it

Staged?? Are you sure it wasnt the Nicolas Cage version you were watching?

aurelius79

Nodin wrote: »

I was in work. The first reports said 'plane crashed into....' and for some reason in my mind I had pictured a Cesna or some similar light aircraft.

Yup, I was at work in the U.S. when it happened. When a workmate told me I laughed because I couldn't figure out how a pilot couldn't see the two massive towers. Then we were told by management to take the rest of the day off. I got home, turned on the TV, and got the shock of my life. I spend the next three days watching the news, trying to figure out what I was actually looking at. One of the worst tragedies in human history.

The images of the jumpers still make me break down to this day. I try not to watch too many videos of the towers falling.

Edit: And the story of Barry Jennings still makes my blood boil.

WesternNight

aurelius79 wrote: »

The images of the jumpers still make me break down to this day. I try not to watch too many videos of the towers falling.

Same with me.

It's so hard to understand why jumping would seem like a good idea. But then I remember one man, whose wife died after jumping, who said: "to be out of the smoke and the heat, and to be out in the air, it must have felt like flying".

I suppose there's a lot to be said for being able to control one last thing

Dartz

I came home from school and saw it on the television. My dad was watching it. I took one look at the burning towers and said:

"Nice film da, I'll watch it later"

He had this thing of renting a disaster movie every afternoon or so at the time and we'd sit down and watch it after school.

Rambled upstairs, had a game on my PSX, came down three hours later, astonished to see that the film was still on... and that they had RTE news in on it.

It was only then that I figured it out.

krudler

I was on holidays in the Canaries with a bunch of friends, went to the shop that morning quite hungover, saw a few dozen people all watching it unfold on tv and stopped, stood there for over an hour watching what was going on, I remember a guy just said something like "we're watching the day the world changes forever on live tv", and he was right.

ArmaniJeanss

When people said 'staged' I think they meant the documentary, not the attacks! That was my thought looking at it as well, there seemed to be a couple of instances where footage was taken of peoples reactions when logically all cameras would have been pointed squarely on what was happening in Tower Plaza. There was one 60 second segment taken from a park in New Jersey which definitely seemed to cut between fake and real.

The lack of cursing struck me as well, I suspect it was a sanitized version specifically for broadcast pre-watershed. I'm sure if they wanted they could put together a 'hardcore' version, with bad language, panicked law enforcement, closeup shots of jumpers, mangled corpses etc.

Despite all that this was a hugely powerful documentary/film. I've rarely found myself glued to the chair, so completely absorbed in a program.

amacachi

johnmcdnl wrote: »

I remember being still in primary school and on the way home in the car Tony Fenton or Larry Gogan or whoever had the 2FM afternoon show was reading Nostradamus's prediction

I remember that "prediction" coming up alright, was great to see that everyone had their priorities right.

I was heading home from school when I heard a place hit The White House, got home and they were replaying the footage. Over time I got a bit immune to it from watching BS conspiracy theory videos but that was a while back, I pretty much can't watch the footage of the planes hitting any more, I feel sick even thinking about it.

TBPH looking back I think that if people think about their thoughts on that day the reality of what has gone since hasn't been nearly as bad as many of us had been thinking it could be or probably would be.

aurelius79

amacachi wrote: »

TBPH looking back I think that if people think about their thoughts on that day the reality of what has gone since hasn't been nearly as bad as many of us had been thinking it could be or probably would be.

Tell that to families of thousands of dead Iraqis and hundreds of dead U.S. servicemen. Jesus Christ, I'm amazed that people can actually say these things. You need to sort out your perspective on life.

Brooks Tasty Rehabilitation

Brooks Tasty Rehabilitation wrote: »

When in reality when people were falling out of the building people in the streets were laughing and shouting for them to jump and cheering when they did.

What a disgusting post to make.