MTV Martial Law Warnings

Audiomad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reCpV1YHuYs

What do you think?

thecommander

It MTV putting an ad on to appear socially conscious.

What do you think?

espinolman

The world is being let toward that , they blame a group for all the problems in the world and use the media to promote hate , who are they targetting , who on the internet ?

Divide and conquer .

alastair

espinolman wrote: »

The world is being let toward that , they blame a group for all the problems in the world and use the media to promote hate , who are they targetting , who on the internet ?

Divide and conquer .

Riight.

So - it's a plot to divide the advocates of genocide (which specific group is it they're blaming btw?) from those that don't roll that way. Terrible stuff altogether.

Audiomad

Their are a lot of strange things happening right now like foreign police patrolling streets.

Germany
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52darKphkVI

Here is more UK Police in Thailand
http://www.bravo.co.uk/shows/big-trouble-in-thailand/

And report of Mexican police in New York and even U.S. Police in South America.

one more for 2012 games
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/6738987.stm

Di0genes

Audiomad wrote: »

Their are a lot of strange things happening right now like foreign police patrolling streets.

Germany
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52darKphkVI

Oh look Russia Today.

Here is more UK Police in Thailand
http://www.bravo.co.uk/shows/big-trouble-in-thailand/

Thats British Ex Pats joining the Thai police specifically to combat crime against and by tourists.
And report of Mexican police in New York and even U.S. Police in South America.

one more for 2012 games
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/6738987.stm

Thats a "may" need specialist officers to help with specific areas of policing.

alastair

Audiomad wrote: »

Their are a lot of strange things happening right now like foreign police patrolling streets.

You do realise those Tourist Police in Thailand don't have any actual police powers, and the ex-pats are volunteers (and not UK police)?

Audiomad

Di0genes wrote: »

Oh look Russia Today.

Yeah they report the news, the German police commission has even stated it! look it up! Would you only belive it if you seen it on RTE? or Irish News papers?

Thats British Ex Pats joining the Thai police specifically to combat crime against and by tourists.

They wear uk police uniforms and I've seen it on TV go watch it! When I saw it they where cracking down on Prostitution!

And report of Mexican police in New York and even U.S. Police in South America.

Yes look it up!

Thats a "may" need specialist officers to help with specific areas of policing.

This comes from the Police commissioner him self its like saying we cant look after our own country and need armed foreign police, It will be then released that it was a great success and they will remain in the uk.

You do realise those Tourist Police in Thailand don't have any actual police powers, and the ex-pats are volunteers (and not UK police)?

And? have you seen it they actually arrest people! its just a show to get you used to the idea of having foreign police on your streets!

gizmo

thecommander wrote: »

It MTV putting an ad on to appear socially conscious.

What do you think?

From the looks of the website promoted by the ads, http://think.mtv.com/, I'd say so.

...either that or the second ad is the next step in the anti-piracy ads.

alastair

Audiomad wrote: »

They wear uk police uniforms and I've seen it on TV go watch it!

No they don't.

http://www.thai-touristpolice.org/application.php

Volunteers understand that being a volunteer is to assist the work of a police officer and not act on behalf of a police officer
Volunteers should not be involved in activities such as arrests, interrogations, investigations or inspections

http://www.andrew-drummond.com/2009/09/04/foreign-tourist-police-volunteers-exposed/

http://teakdoor.com/thailand-and-asia-news/46491-pattaya-british-tourist-police-volunteer-held.html

Di0genes

Audiomad wrote: »

Yeah they report the news, the German police commission has even stated it! look it up! Would you only belive it if you seen it on RTE? or Irish News papers?

Russia today is run by the Kremlin and is a noted source of utter bull**** and woo.

They wear uk police uniforms

As Alaister said. No they dont.

Yes look it up!

The onus is on you to support your claims not vice versa.

This comes from the Police commissioner him self its like saying we cant look after our own country and need armed foreign police,

No the statement is that there potentially isn't enough officers in the UK with firearms training to police the Olympics, and it may be cheaper and more efficient to bring in foreign police officers for the three weeks of the games.

It will be then released that it was a great success and they will remain in the uk.

Wanna place a bet?

And? have you seen it they actually arrest people! its just a show to get you used to the idea of having foreign police on your streets!

You'd think they'd put it on a station that y'know people watch then.

Audiomad

Di0genes wrote: »

Russia today is run by the Kremlin and is a noted source of utter bull**** and woo.

Really do you watch Fox news? RTE, Sky and others believe them more?

As Alaister said. No they dont.

Go watch it!!!

The onus is on you to support your claims not vice versa.

No its up to you to investigate, not just dismissing everything because you think the world is full of lemon drops and daisy's!

No the statement is that there potentially isn't enough officers in the UK with firearms training to police the Olympics, and it may be cheaper and more efficient to bring in foreign police officers for the three weeks of the games.

Really so they don't already train their own police officers?

Wanna place a bet?

OK how much?

You'd think they'd put it on a station that y'know people watch then.

Thats whats its their for don't just take my word for it go watch it Sky channel 123!

fontanalis

Audiomad wrote: »

Really do you watch Fox news? RTE, Sky and others believe them more?



Go watch it!!!



No its up to you to investigate, not just dismissing everything because you think the world is full of lemon drops and daisy's!



Really so they don't already train their own police officers?



OK how much?



Thats whats its their for don't just take my word for it go watch it Sky channel 123!

If you can't show a credible link stating that Mexican police are patrolling the US you have zero credibility.

Di0genes

Audiomad wrote: »

Really do you watch Fox news? RTE, Sky and others believe them more?

See what you're doing is rather juvenile. Because I don't trust X, then I must trust Y. It's a logical fallacy.

Go watch it!!!

Show me a photo.

No its up to you to investigate, not just dismissing everything because you think the world is full of lemon drops and daisy's!

Really no. Running around trying to disprove stupid claims isn't a useful use of my time. I've been to new york, I didn't see any Mexican cops.

Really so they don't already train their own police officers?

The article says that the British Police have 6,000 officers trained to use firearms. Less than 1/6th of the force. It says that they're investigating the possibility that it would be a better use of resources to possibly bring in trained firearms officers than to go through the expense and hassle of training additional officers with firearms training.

OK how much?

I'll give 200euro to the 2012 Santa Strike Force if armed foreign police are brought in for the Olympics in London, and they remain a constant presence after the games.

Will you volunteer to do the same if they don't?

Thats whats its their for don't just take my word for it go watch it Sky channel 123!

I don't have bravo.

alastair

Audiomad wrote: »

Go watch it!!!

I'd suggest you go watch it again - just a bit more carefully this time. Here's a helpful clue:

Ex-pat Thai volunteer tourist warden uniform (as seen on your fave telly channel):


A random UK police force uniform:

Audiomad

Di0genes wrote: »

See what you're doing is rather juvenile. Because I don't trust X, then I must trust Y. It's a logical fallacy.

Well don't you?

Show me a photo.

Its not my job to try and prove to you! look it up your self!

Really no. Running around trying to disprove stupid claims isn't a useful use of my time. I've been to new york, I didn't see any Mexican cops.

So don't get involved in discussions if you don't believe it or don't agree.

The article says that the British Police have 6,000 officers trained to use firearms. Less than 1/6th of the force. It says that they're investigating the possibility that it would be a better use of resources to possibly bring in trained firearms officers than to go through the expense and hassle of training additional officers with firearms training.

Yes but can you imagine American Police on the UK streets? French, German even Afghan, would you except that if they end up here? READ THE LINES, The UK police commissioner saying here wants extra police that are none UK police!!!

I'll give 200euro to the 2012 Santa Strike Force if armed foreign police are brought in for the Olympics in London, and they remain a constant presence after the games.

Will you volunteer to do the same if they don't?

Yes! lets up the bet say €1,000

I don't have bravo.

Well I do and I've watched it!!

fontanalis

I heard they're really avatars of the goat/lizard people, go look it up. you don't expect evidence do you?

Audiomad

alastair wrote: »

I'd suggest you go watch it again - just a bit more carefully this time. Here's a helpful clue:

Ex-pat Thai volunteer tourist warden uniform (as seen on your fave telly channel):


A random UK police force uniform:

Go watch it! look do you even think the Thai Government would allow this? to allow so called volunteer police run around the streets and show all the bad points of Thailand?

alastair

Audiomad wrote: »

Go watch it! look do you even think the Thai Government would allow this? to allow so called volunteer police run around the streets and show all the bad points of Thailand?

I've seen it (unfortunately). They're not UK cops, they're not wearing UK uniforms, and they don't have Thai police powers (as I've already pointed you towards to the horse's mouth in that regard, you really ought to give up on that now).

Di0genes

Audiomad wrote: »

Well don't you?

Well I judge an article or news piece on it's own merits.

Its not my job to try and prove to you! look it up your self!

Really it's not the way the world works.

So don't get involved in discussions if you don't believe it or don't agree.

It'd be a pretty boring world if people only had discussion with each other on topics they all agree on.

Yes but can you imagine American Police on the UK streets? French, German even Afghan, would you except that if they end up here? READ THE LINES, The UK police commissioner saying here wants extra police that are none UK police!!!

Okay firstly I'm assuming you mean "READ BETWEEN THE LINES".

He's saying thats it's possible for a brief period in a few years time, over the course of a few weeks, they're investigating the idea of using foreign police to help deal with extraordinary circumstances.

Hypothetically if they were to permanently remove police from their nationality to the UK, what would the countries they're taking them from do to cover their own short fall. And also how will the officers and their families like the idea of permanent relocation from their families and homes?

Yes! lets up the bet say €1,000

No. €200 is a decent amount of money.

But lets make this fair. A side bet. I bet that if you lose you won't honour this bet. In fact I bet 20e to the Strike Force Fund, that you won't.

Well I do and I've watched it!!

Right and you missed the photo that Alaister put up, proving you completely wrong then?

Audiomad

Di0genes wrote: »

Well I judge an article or news piece on it's own merits.

As long as it comes from RTE or other Irish media am I right?

Really it's not the way the world works.

No!!! if thats the case you must believe everything the Government says am I right? and if it is the case you believe that I feel sorry for you!

It'd be a pretty boring world if people only had discussion with each other on topics they all agree on.

You took part in a discussion taking it off topic and saying none of it is true, even dismissing Russia Today because they are Russian?

Okay firstly I'm assuming you mean "READ BETWEEN THE LINES".

No read the lines, then investigate.

He's saying thats it's possible for a brief period in a few years time, over the course of a few weeks, they're investigating the idea of using foreign police to help deal with extraordinary circumstances.

Its happening in other countries too! to protect people living in another country!

Hypothetically if they were to permanently remove police from their nationality to the UK, what would the countries they're taking them from do to cover their own short fall. And also how will the officers and their families like the idea of permanent relocation from their families and homes?

I don't think to many guards would care, they will be getting paid more! it would also mean less work!

No. €200 is a decent amount of money.

But lets make this fair. A side bet. I bet that if you lose you won't honour this bet. In fact I bet 20e to the Strike Force Fund, that you won't.

I'm a man of my word! I will keep this bet!!!

Right and you missed the photo that Alaister put up, proving you completely wrong then?

Audiomad

alastair wrote: »

I've seen it (unfortunately). They're not UK cops, they're not wearing UK uniforms, and they don't have Thai police powers (as I've already pointed you towards to the horse's mouth in that regard, you really ought to give up on that now).

And they where taking part in taking down a prostitution ring why? not guards just tourist police?, wake up and see that not everything gets written down just to show people that this stuff is happening!

Di0genes

Audiomad wrote: »

As long as it comes from RTE or other Irish media am I right?

Do you have a literacy problem?

No!!! if thats the case you must believe everything the Government says am I right? and if it is the case you believe that I feel sorry for you!

What is that non sequitur.

Seriously. Can I recommend a book for you?




Because I don't believe you, it doesn't equate that I automatically trust another source.

You took part in a discussion taking it off topic and saying none of it is true, even dismissing Russia Today because they are Russian?

No. Again Seriously do you have a literacy problem? I distrust Russia Today because it's a government run (not state government) that espouses the Kremlin's line, it also regularly hosts conspiracy loons and wingnuts.

No read the lines, then investigate.

Ah that answers my question about literacy.

Its happening in other countries too! to protect people living in another country!

Only the examples you've provided are untrue or misleading so you're not really winning this argument.

I don't think to many guards would care, they will be getting paid more! it would also mean less work!

Wow.

Sigh.

Okay before I get into this. Firstly we're not talking about Garda (or Guards) we're talking about British Police. And how will they be being paid more? Where is that in your plethora of bad links?

Look. I'll try this again. You're claiming foreign police are going to be moved permanently to the UK using the pretext of the Olympics.

Lets use a hypothetical. Suppose a 1,000 police come from say Alabama, for the duration. How will Alabama cope with the permanent loss of 1,000 police officers? Will the officers who think they are going for a few weeks, be happy to stay forever? Will their families?

I'm a man of my word! I will keep this bet!!!

So you agree 200e to the Santa Strike force if you're wrong and there isn't a permanent large foreign police force in the UK brought in on the pretext of the Olympics but still in place this time in two years?

Right and you missed the photo that Alaister put up, proving you completely wrong then?

The Photo Audiomad?

Yitzhak Rabin

uprising2 wrote: »

Back on Topic......

I looked at the first MTV video, then came across this one linked to it, take a look at 1:17 if nothing else and listen to the shock in his voice as he read's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXfXuk6aWJc

I wouldn't consider the onion news network a reliable source! :pac::pac:

Di0genes

yekahs wrote: »

I wouldn't consider the onion news network a reliable source! :pac::pac:

Oh man that's a classic. Stundied!

fontanalis

Di0genes wrote: »

Oh man that's a classic. Stundied!

Does onion not mean that you have to peel back the layers

Di0genes

fontanalis wrote: »

Does onion not mean that you have to peel back the layers

No JUST READ THE LINES!

uprising2

yekahs wrote: »

I wouldn't consider the onion news network a reliable source! :pac::pac:

Haha I didn't realise, I got a friendly PM telling me what I'd done.
I never heard of onion before Now:o.

Ok I put my hands up...................Everybody Happy.....????

Edit:

I didn't even notice the onion-span, well hopefully it won't happen again.

EDITEDIT:

Shakey don't be putting up false accusations about me, I don't know where you got that video, I looked back through the thread and couldn't find it

fontanalis

uprising2 wrote: »

Haha I didn't realise, I got a friendly PM telling me what I'd done.
I never heard of onion before Now:o.

Ok I put my hands up...................Everybody Happy.....????

When you can't tell when somethigns a piss take of things your meant to believe in you need to evaluate your world view.

uprising2

fontanalis wrote: »

When you can't tell when somethigns a piss take of things your meant to believe in you need to evaluate your world view.

And when you can't spell you shouldn't write...........

I watched the video, I actually thought it was from C-SPAN, I didn't notice the onion instaed of C, so because of this I need to change my world view to your's?...............

And Please don't try make this the topic of the thread, if you want to say anything to me PM me....

Audiomad

Di0genes wrote: »

Do you have a literacy problem?

No!

What is that non sequitur.

Seriously. Can I recommend a book for you?

Because I don't believe you, it doesn't equate that I automatically trust another source.

Go back and look at your own words, stating how to world works or at least how you think it works!

No. Again Seriously do you have a literacy problem? I distrust Russia Today because it's a government run (not state government) that espouses the Kremlin's line, it also regularly hosts conspiracy loons and wingnuts.

Do you understand Governments have power of media all media! you use Russia Today and the Kremlin as a way to make your point of view right!

Ah that answers my question about literacy.

Does it?

Only the examples you've provided are untrue or misleading so you're not really winning this argument.

As I said stop taking it off topic! I have my own points of view. You pick up one point and try and make your view right. Don't get involved if you cant even make reference to the original post!

Wow.

Sigh.

Okay before I get into this. Firstly we're not talking about Garda (or Guards) we're talking about British Police. And how will they be being paid more? Where is that in your plethora of bad links?

Have you no common sense?

Look. I'll try this again. You're claiming foreign police are going to be moved permanently to the UK using the pretext of the Olympics.

As I stated its happening everywhere!

Lets use a hypothetical. Suppose a 1,000 police come from say Alabama, for the duration. How will Alabama cope with the permanent loss of 1,000 police officers? Will the officers who think they are going for a few weeks, be happy to stay forever? Will their families?

You think people won't agree to move?

So you agree 200e to the Santa Strike force if you're wrong and there isn't a permanent large foreign police force in the UK brought in on the pretext of the Olympics but still in place this time in two years?

Yes! look at other countries and you will see that this will be the next craze to stop crime! Its happening in Germany a country that has had foreign troops run the country do you think they would be allowing foreign police without there being another reason to it? do you? wake up mate see whats happening in the world, RTE and other media are not going to tell you everything they cant as they are controlled by Governments. RT is not the only station saying this look at Press TV and Al Jazeera.