Kevin Myers writes anti-Metro column (x4) [SEE MOD WARNING POST #1]

LeinsterDub

I sent this

Dear Mr Myers, Editor


http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/folly-of-easter-island-is-the-inspiration-for-what-our-state-is-about-to-do-to-us-with-metro-north-2355122.html

"OF course, being an Irish solution to an Irish problem, Necro North won't do what it is meant to do -- namely supply rapid transit to Dublin Airport. As Michael Holland of the Fitzwilliam Hotel on St Stephen's Green (Oh lucky Fitzwilliam!) points out, with 17 stops to the airport, it will probably be far too slow. So passengers will opt instead for the non-stop airport buses that are now going through the €789m port tunnel, with which the multi-billion Necro North tunnel will run parallel. "

Can you kindly point out on this Map (http://www.transport21.ie/Projects/upload/File/Metro%20North%20Route%2010-08.pdf) where there are 17 stops between the green and the Airport. My Count makes it 9 but it's not surprising you got it wrong sure it was hidden from public view on the internet . Also the RPA predicted journey time is 20 minutes to the Airport tunnel or no tunnel no bus will beat that time.

"The journey time from St Stephen's Green to Dublin Airport will be in the region of 20 minutes. The journey time from Belinstown to St Stephen's Green will be approximately 30 minutes."

Perhaps a little research before yet a other Metro North rant?

This is his reply

Thank you for that pointless, nit-picking sneer, which is not relevant
to the main thrust of my argument about the cost and dislocation
caused by MN. But it probably made you feel better: and isn't such
witless self-indulgence the reason that so much is going wrong in this
country?

oharach

LeinsterDub: I'd send his reply back directly to the editor and demand an apology on behalf of the paper. Ring them up if you have to. Maybe then they'll keep him muzzled in future...

Absolutely disgraceful

lods

LeinsterDub wrote: »

I sent this

This is his reply

you have to laugh

Empire o de Sun

oharach wrote: »

LeinsterDub: I'd send his reply back directly to the editor and demand an apology on behalf of the paper. Ring them up if you have to. Maybe then they'll keep him muzzled in future...

Absolutely disgraceful

Sound like the Independent has become a red top newspaper.

GizAGoOfYerGee

Kevin is a deeply angry and unhappy man in his personal life. He vents his misery upon us all by trolling us with his dreadful articles.

Cheer up, Kevin, you miserable ****.

OurLadyofKnock

oharach wrote: »

LeinsterDub: I'd send his reply back directly to the editor and demand an apology on behalf of the paper. Ring them up if you have to. Maybe then they'll keep him muzzled in future...

Absolutely disgraceful

Sadly I would bet that his employers agree with him.

crucamim

GizAGoOfYerGee wrote: »

Kevin is a deeply angry and unhappy man in his personal life. He vents his misery upon us all by trolling us with his dreadful articles.

Cheer up, Kevin, you miserable ****.

Why is Kevin Myers "a deeply angry and unhappy man in his personal life"?

I suspect that his writing is aimed at earning a living and a very good living at that. The controversial journalist tends to be widely read and the widely read journalist tends to be wealthy. If people buy the Irish Independent just to see what that so-and-so Myers is writing to-day, that so-and-so is doing a good job. He is increasing sales revenue which, in turn, generates advirtising revenue - which is the important income.
Kevin Myers is the print equivalent of the page 3 girl.

So, chill out and laugh him off. Just as you would when you read a child's comic.

L1011

The main impression I got from today's wibbling is that Kevin doesn't understand the PPP system and fixed prices up front on contracts...

Zebra3

MYOB wrote: »

The main impression I got from today's wibbling is that Kevin doesn't understand the PPP system and fixed prices up front on contracts...

As well as him not being able to count.

Amtmann

OurLadyofKnock has been banned for two months for ignoring my upthread warning. Several of his/her posts have been removed.

By all means, criticise Myers. Rip his columns to pieces if you like. Correct his errors on Metro North, with reference to previous fact-deficient articles of his if necessary. But do not descend into slanderous territory.

runway16

OK Furet, we are now all clear on the rules. Cheers.

Interesting to note that pretty much no one seems to be answering Myers' ridiculous pieces - I think pretty much everyone realises that we need an underground system of some sort in this city.#

At this point, I think he is just best ignored, because making a stink out of it will just bestow his nonsensical articles some credibility, when in my view, they have zero.

Of course, should people start believing him, then a campaign of resistance should begin, and the letters to the editor should go flying in!

Myers is playing dirty politics - his mention of "useful" quangos like the western development commision is purely designed to mobilise to "Anti anything in Dublin" rural opinion against this project. Im glad to see few have fallen for his manipulation so far - and that most in other parts of Ireland realises that this city has to work, is decades behind the times in terms of transport provision, and that it has to change.

Thankfully, with nationwide road improvements, and excellent Motorway networks around the nation, people are starting to see that all investment is NOT just about the Dublin area - Limerick, and Cork in particular now have superior and improving road systems, and are benefiting from the provision of regional rail which we all hope to see more of. Galway is also progressing nicely, while Waterford has benefitted from extensive road imrpovments. Not only the Cities, but our larger regional towns are gaining efficient links around the country also. It is concrete evidence that not everything happens in Dublin!

Myers opposition is nothing more than political play, but a foul game which jeopardises the needs of Dublin.

If we need to, if people start listening, then we should be prepared to resist it at all costs.

Zebra3

runway16 wrote: »

Myers is playing dirty politics - his mention of "useful" quangos like the western development commision is purely designed to mobilise to "Anti anything in Dublin" rural opinion against this project.

I'm always bemused at politicans or journos who take this stance.

You'd swear there was a wall built around Dublin and no non-Dubliners lived and worked in the city. :rolleyes:

lods

http://www.rte.ie/business/2010/1001/ntma.html

UCD economist Colm McCarthy has said the Government will have to look at expenditure cuts and raising revenue over the coming years as part of its fiscal planning.

He told RTÉ today that the Government could expand the tax base by including water and residential property taxes. He added that there are quite a few things in his Bord Snip report that could be revisited.

He also suggested that large capital projects such as Metro North may have to be deferred. He warned that if measures are not now taken to reassure international financial markets, the country will pay over the odds for borrowing and could end up getting assistance from the International Monetary Fund or the European Financial Stability Facility.

Was this not already in the original report?

runway16

Zebra3 wrote: »

I'm always bemused at politicans or journos who take this stance.

You'd swear there was a wall built around Dublin and no non-Dubliners lived and worked in the city. :rolleyes:

I'm one of them myself mate, though i'd like to consider myself a citizen of the world than a culchie..... (and rednecks would like to be called "sons of the soil" but it aint ever gonna happen..... ;-) )

You would be surprised how prevalent that feeling is around the country though - in a recent conversation with my aul fella, he uttered the dreaded "dublin gets everything" when talking about infrastructure in the area where they live. I quickly informed him of the Limerick Tunnel, The M7, the Gort Crusheen M18 scheme, the soon to start Gort to Tuam scheme, the M20, the Limerick - Galway rail service..... he soon wound his neck in....;-)

Carawaystick

dubhthach wrote: »

Our sun is too small* to become a SuperNova so I'm sure the folks in ABP will not need to waste two years deciding if it should.

*A star needs to have at least 9-10 times the mass of our Sun to be a candidate for a supernova

Our Sun is tiny compared to some of starts out there:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Star-sizes.jpg

I'll see your 9-10 sol masses and lower you to 1.4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandrasekhar_limit