Noob Tubes or Commando?

Fliggy

Hey guys, everybody knows that the two main problem that p!sses everyone off these days are Danger Close Noob Tubes and Commando. But, i've never really thought about which one is worse. Theres practically nothing you can do against a Danger Close noob tuber, but the MLC setup is soo annoying. So, which one do u hate the most? For me its probably the Noob Tubes, an auwl Spas will sort out the MLC runners most of the time.

pdbhp

I've voted neither but it's danger close noob tubes which grind my gears.
My buddy always noob tubes with scavanger pro even though he's really good at the game.
Me personally I like commando pro as a perk cos it means I can jump off anything and survive just like in real life............jumps off roof and breaks legs......

Mr. Manager

Dont have a problem with either!

I have a class set up called "explosive" that I bust out every now and then when I'm tilted.

M16 - Grenade Launcher
RPG x 2

Frag
Stun x 2

Scavenger Pro
DCP
Sit Rep Pro (challenge purposes)

You can combat this class but you can't combat MLN (well,you can but quite difficult in cqb). It's painful to be in a game when more than one of the opposing players has this set up. I'm not saying it should be taken out of the game or anything of the sort,it just grinds my gears is all

Angron

Dont have a problem with either!

Commando annoys me more. I don't like either of them very much, but I do find commando is the more blood-pressure increasing of the two

ironictoaster

Marathon, Lightweight Commando!

On experience, it seems that a noob tube will ruin my killstreak more than commando.

Nuri Sahin

Dont have a problem with either!

It really should be

OMA/Scavenger Noob Tubes vs Commando
The battle of the head-wrecking Gimps

Personally I rarely come across the OMA + DC noob tube class.
Scavenger is a problem at times but for the most I don't come across many using it. Maybe one or two in a game at most.

Commando............ where to start. I die more from commando than killstreaks. It's usually the wall I run into constantly. This afternoon, just came out of my chopper gunner. As in animation to stand up from prone some 1 guy teleported across at me. Didn't have time to do anything about it. I died on 24 kills and had the nuke on. Thought, after 6 months I finally had it. Denied!

The single most bizarre perk in COD history.

OMA and Scavenger just need tweaking IMO ie: re-supply gun ammo, not grenades, claymores, rockets and so on.

Varik

Most of my classes have oma except for one with a stinger, when i uses it it's usually to change to a new class rather than to get more ammo, if you couldn't change to the same class it would be fine. they won't tweak anything at this stage and Scavenger is fine the way it is.

magic bullets piss me off the most. Today i was playing and got killed by a shotgun when i was behind the guy but assumed the killcam would show me right in front of him, it didn't i wasn't even in view when he fire at a wall in the opposite direction and got a hit marker.

TheChrisD

Dont have a problem with either!

I don't mind the DC tubers or RPG's, just as long as they're not running OMA.

The MLC'ers are just damn annoying, especially in close quarters when you have no idea they're coming.

CORaven

Marathon, Lightweight Commando!

I think I hate the OMA/DC + Nades combo (artillery class) more. Simply because they can spawn kill in a no-respawn game (S&D).
What's worse is that they can then change into another class of their choice, MLC included!

MLC can be a pain, but at least you can hear them in advance.

callaway92

I don't give a shíte about them...they're in the game to be used...tbh, it's the moaners that ruin the game

Stuxnet

Marathon, Lightweight Commando!

aye, its the OMA infinite grenade spammers are the worst !
the game is totally unbalanced and rewards these camping nade spammin' 20 feet knife diving bitches

krudler

Marathon, Lightweight Commando!

callaway92 wrote: »

I don't give a shíte about them...they're in the game to be used...tbh, it's the moaners that ruin the game

so you dont find it in the least bit irritating when you're on a decent streak where you're playing well, say 1 kill short of an ac-130, and some kid fires a grenade from across the map, not even knowing you're there, and gets a kill?with no effort whatsoever? Is someone outplays me, or sneaks up on me, or beats me to a shot, or any other number of reasons to die, fair enough, nothing to complain about there, its part of the game. But people firing infinite grenades at a random point on the map is completely unbalanced.

Leeg17

krudler wrote: »

so you dont find it in the least bit irritating when you're on a decent streak where you're playing well, say 1 kill short of an ac-130, and some kid fires a grenade from across the map, not even knowing you're there, and gets a kill?with no effort whatsoever? Is someone outplays me, or sneaks up on me, or beats me to a shot, or any other number of reasons to die, fair enough, nothing to complain about there, its part of the game. But people firing infinite grenades at a random point on the map is completely unbalanced.

Completely agree. I think this was discussed before and someone on boards mentioned a machinima director, I can't remember who. He said he doesn't mind dying in Mw2 as long as there's something to learn from, ie running out in the open on wasteland, staying in one place for too long etc. You can't "learn" anything from dying from spammed grenades from OMA.

Nuri Sahin

Dont have a problem with either!

callaway92 wrote: »

I don't give a shíte about them...they're in the game to be used...tbh, it's the moaners that ruin the game

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Dare I assume you use these classes(OMA/Scavenger Noob tubes and commando)......

hightower1

Dont have a problem with either!

Adnan Alves wrote: »

:pac: :pac: :pac:

Dare I assume you use these classes(OMA/Scavenger Noob tubes and commando)......

callaway92

Adnan Alves wrote: »

:pac: :pac: :pac:

Dare I assume you use these classes(OMA/Scavenger Noob tubes and commando)......

nope...the class I use the most is Scav P, CBP, SRP
also have for rush - mar p,st p, n p

hightower1

Dont have a problem with either!

Leeg17 wrote: »

Completely agree. I think this was discussed before and someone on boards mentioned a machinima director, I can't remember who. He said he doesn't mind dying in Mw2 as long as there's something to learn from, ie running out in the open on wasteland, staying in one place for too long etc. You can't "learn" anything from dying from spammed grenades from OMA.

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Leeg17 wrote: »

OMA is one of the best perks IMO. Really really handy for replenishing grandes (semtex and flash's, put your pitchforks down!), and ammo. Was playing before in favela and ran out of ammo for my UMP and no semtex, going for the nuke and 1 off harriers. I'm like sht sht, no guns lying around, forgot I had OMA on, swapped to the same class and got everything I needed, but the nuke

See... this is the problem! People give out about perks, combos of perks etc ... and then go and use the exact same class themselves!!!???? WTF.
The usuall then is .. "oh its only for fun" or "its only fror challenges"... bottom line is practice what you preach.
You play a match where you get a guy using oma and rpg with DC and give out about him being a noob and having no skill, you cant then turn around and use the same sh*t and say its ok simply cause blah blah blah. :rolleyes:

Shammy

Marathon, Lightweight Commando!

No problem with commando i dont get killed from it too often and if i am killed by it , i know how to deal with it.
Countering oma/scavenger / dc noobtubing on the other hand i cant counter it so i have my own class called limp dick which is the same as they are using. 2 things will happen , they will leave the room or else the game becomes a shambles with every one switching to tubes with dc.

Magill

hightower1 wrote: »

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See... this is the problem! People give out about perks, combos of perks etc ... and then go and use the exact same class themselves!!!???? WTF.
The usuall then is .. "oh its only for fun" or "its only fror challenges"... bottom line is practice what you preach.
You play a match where you get a guy using oma and rpg with DC and give out about him being a noob and having no skill, you cant then turn around and use the same sh*t and say its ok simply cause blah blah blah. :rolleyes:

Theres a difference between using OMA to switch between certain classes ( maybe you start off with a SP AK class, but airsupport comes in so you switch to your CB class) and using it to sit at one end of the map and spam nades for the entire game.

Nothing wrong with complaining about them, they dont take much skill to use effectively, but i think the majority of the hate is directed at IW for including them in the game.

Angron

Dont have a problem with either!

Shammy wrote: »

No problem with commando i dont get killed from it too often and if i am killed by it , i know how to deal with it.
Countering oma/scavenger / dc noobtubing on the other hand i cant counter it so i have my own class called limp dick which is the same as they are using. 2 things will happen , they will leave the room or else the game becomes a shambles with every one switching to tubes with dc.

I love that name for it

Leeg17

hightower1 wrote: »

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See... this is the problem! People give out about perks, combos of perks etc ... and then go and use the exact same class themselves!!!???? WTF.
The usuall then is .. "oh its only for fun" or "its only fror challenges"... bottom line is practice what you preach.
You play a match where you get a guy using oma and rpg with DC and give out about him being a noob and having no skill, you cant then turn around and use the same sh*t and say its ok simply cause blah blah blah. :rolleyes:

Yea. Hi there.

I was mouthing about people who grenade spammed randomly across maps. I didn't complain about OMA itself. If you read my posts properly you'll see I used OMA to replenish gun ammo and 1 semtex. I didn't use OMA to use my two nades on an AR, expend them, and use two more.

Also I didn't use his "exact same class". I used a single perk. Hardly the same.

When I do use DC Pro, which is rare, I only ever use it with SOH and Ninja, not OMA. I don't even have nades set on my primary (usually UMP w/ silencer), I use it for the stronger Pred, Harrier and ultimately Ac-130.

/That is all.

mufcboy1999

im well aware of the commando but what the hell is a noob tube?

krudler

Marathon, Lightweight Commando!

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

im well aware of the commando but what the hell is a noob tube?

Grenade launcher attachment that all assault rifles in the game have, since you can fire a grenade and chances are it'll hit someone you probably dont even know are there to begin with, it got the nickname noob tube. Its basically for guys who cant play the game properly but know exactly where to stand at the beginning of a match or a Domination game and bombard the flags with grenades from across the map.

Leeg17

krudler wrote: »

Grenade launcher attachment that all assault rifles in the game have, since you can fire a grenade and chances are it'll hit someone you probably dont even know are there to begin with, it got the nickname noob tube. Its basically for guys who cant play the game properly but know exactly where to stand at the beginning of a match or a Domination game and bombard the flags with grenades from across the map.

I remember you, Kersmash and I were playing Dom on Strike with a few others. We spawned at B flag (I think), someone lobbed one over all the buildings and got me and Kersmash. Pure random but good

mufcboy1999

krudler wrote: »

Grenade launcher attachment that all assault rifles in the game have, since you can fire a grenade and chances are it'll hit someone you probably dont even know are there to begin with, it got the nickname noob tube. Its basically for guys who cant play the game properly but know exactly where to stand at the beginning of a match or a Domination game and bombard the flags with grenades from across the map.

cheers bud and yes thats exactly how i feel about gernade launchers, i dont mnd commando but the grenade launchers really do my head in

krudler

Marathon, Lightweight Commando!

Grenade launchers are there to be used, I used to use the thumper a lot, I'm actually nearly at a title for it now, must check how many kills I've left to get it. anyway, I used to use it to root out campers, snipers, boosters and take guys out from a safe distance, but when I knew they were there, not just randomly flobbing grenades all over the place hoping for a kill, maybe running to a flag thats being captured on Dom, you see it get taken by the enemy, you're too far to shoot, then a grenade will probably get you a kill if they're standing on or near the flag defending it. but at least you KNOW someones there.

sierra117x

krudler wrote: »

so you dont find it in the least bit irritating when you're on a decent streak where you're playing well, say 1 kill short of an ac-130, and some kid fires a grenade from across the map, not even knowing you're there, and gets a kill?with no effort whatsoever? Is someone outplays me, or sneaks up on me, or beats me to a shot, or any other number of reasons to die, fair enough, nothing to complain about there, its part of the game. But people firing infinite grenades at a random point on the map is completely unbalanced.

i only really have a problem with it unless im loosing over it . if the whole team is spamming it and there kicking ass then i get annoyed . otherwise not that big a deal if you get creamed by a grenade or 2 . just cream the little bugger when you meet him

sierra117x

Shammy wrote: »

No problem with commando i dont get killed from it too often and if i am killed by it , i know how to deal with it.
Countering oma/scavenger / dc noobtubing on the other hand i cant counter it so i have my own class called limp dick which is the same as they are using. 2 things will happen , they will leave the room or else the game becomes a shambles with every one switching to tubes with dc.

yeah ive heard you and that name a lot in the same sentances

Shammy

Marathon, Lightweight Commando!

SSHHHhhhhh

MiCr0

i think you forgot no-scoping in the poll :-)

shawpower

Marathon, Lightweight Commando!

hightower1 wrote: »

See... this is the problem! People give out about perks, combos of perks etc ... and then go and use the exact same class themselves!!!???? WTF.
The usuall then is .. "oh its only for fun" or "its only fror challenges"... bottom line is practice what you preach.
You play a match where you get a guy using oma and rpg with DC and give out about him being a noob and having no skill, you cant then turn around and use the same sh*t and say its ok simply cause blah blah blah. :rolleyes:

I'm sorry, but if you want to start preaching at someone, you need to get your facts straight first.

Firstly, you can't run OMA and RPG.

But the main part is that there is no similarity at all between someone using OMA/noob tubes/DangerClose or Noobtube/RPG/Scavenger/Dangerclose and someone running OMA and the UMP. OMA is a perfectly valid perk to use with most guns, allowing you to flip between classes if needed (for airsupport kills) or to reload your primary if you run out of ammo. It's when it gets abused that there is a problem, with people who constantly reload their danger close noob tube which you use to spam constantly. To blindly criticise anyone who uses it in any circumstance is ridiculous and similar to guys who bitch at your for camping when you are protecting your armed bomb in S&D etc.

shawpower

Marathon, Lightweight Commando!

I voted for noob tube, but thinking about it again, it might actually be commando. I hate running up against someone with commando on them, and them teleporting past your bullets. A random tube is annoying but possibly not as much as that knife death. But when a few of the enemy are rocking that class, then it gets ridiculous.

I came up against a sniper in a game on Skidrow and he had the RPG attached as his secondary, but basically used it as his primary. He killed me with it about 5-6 times, and I was well p1ssed off by the end. But in fairness he did it quite well and was hard to kill. I got him a few times, but once he saw you, you were dead. The thing is, he was probably trying to finish a challenge, and he ended up scoring something like 16-19 whereas I went positive despite him. But that kind of stuff annoys me. I mean use it where it's useful, but to go negative just to unlock challenges doesn't make sense to me, and it means that there were constant rockets going all game. :rolleyes:

Randy Shafter

Dont have a problem with either!

Has to be Marathon/Lightweight/Commando. For a while i noticed that this class wasn't being used as much and that made the game better IMO but its picked up in popularity again on the PS3. It just annoys me when someone all the way ooooover there knifes ya! Even worse when you side step them a good bit and they still somehow manage to get you!+ :mad::mad::mad:= I hate you marathon/lightweight/commando

Sod'o swords

Marathon, Lightweight Commando!

I don't mind commando as much, because i can usually kill them before they do anything.

I also don't mind grenade launchers, what I do hate it people running around with them selected and even though i shoot and kill them first they managed to fire one off before they died and strike a wall or the ground near me.

People say "it's there to be used, stop moaning nubfág" yeah, it's in the game and you may use it, but I still see it as a tactic for people who are otherwise too rubbish to get kills normally.

Rabble rabble rabble.

claiva

shawpower wrote: »

I voted for noob tube, but thinking about it again, it might actually be commando. I hate running up against someone with commando on them, and them teleporting past your bullets. A random tube is annoying but possibly not as much as that knife death. But when a few of the enemy are rocking that class, then it gets ridiculous.

I came up against a sniper in a game on Skidrow and he had the RPG attached as his secondary, but basically used it as his primary. He killed me with it about 5-6 times, and I was well p1ssed off by the end. But in fairness he did it quite well and was hard to kill. I got him a few times, but once he saw you, you were dead. The thing is, he was probably trying to finish a challenge, and he ended up scoring something like 16-19 whereas I went positive despite him. But that kind of stuff annoys me. I mean use it where it's useful, but to go negative just to unlock challenges doesn't make sense to me, and it means that there were constant rockets going all game. :rolleyes:

I know what you're saying Rob but I've found myself using the rpg the last few times just for the sheer fun of it. Mainly in Domination where my k/d isn't as important to the team, but I use it simply coz its great fun. I'm not hung up on my k/d like Brian is for example, saying that I would like it to be 1/1 !!

shawpower

Marathon, Lightweight Commando!

claiva wrote: »

I know what you're saying Rob but I've found myself using the rpg the last few times just for the sheer fun of it. Mainly in Domination where my k/d isn't as important to the team, but I use it simply coz its great fun. I'm not hung up on my k/d like Brian is for example, saying that I would like it to be 1/1 !!

I've no problem with someone using it on Domination at all, and I know it can be fun at times to use the RPG. It just seemed strange that yer man was playing TDM and using an RPG as his primary weapon. I mean, if you are looking to just complete challenges on a gun, I wouldn't play the one gametype that is won by your k:d ratio. Maybe the fact that he got me so many times and I could do nothing about it made it worse. I've no idea how he was reloading so frequently, but I suspect going by his score, that he'd kill me with it, show up on UAV, get killed and end up finding me again. I went after him a few times and got once or twice, but he probably won our 1v1 side game.

I'm not hugely hung up about the k:d, although I do keep an eye on it. It's been sitting at 1.37 for a while, and when it looks like dropping after playing some Dom games, I make sure to nurse it back up towards 1.38 again. I might focus on it again at some point to try to hit the 1.5 mark, but not that bothered at the moment.

Magill

Sod'o swords wrote: »

People say "it's there to be used, stop moaning nubfág" yeah, it's in the game and you may use it, but I still see it as a tactic for people who are otherwise too rubbish to get kills normally.

Rabble rabble rabble.

Not really, i know alot of people that use it for a laugh every now and then.. it is an easy tactic. Imma gonna upload a gameplay i captured a few nights ago, used noobtubes/oma for most of it, think i ended on 80 kills and 6 deaths... but still... i know i can do just as well with most other guns.


It is anoying as ****, but really, i wouldn't say only noobs do it as im sure most people use it now and then.

Sod'o swords

Marathon, Lightweight Commando!

Magill wrote: »

Not really, i know alot of people that use it for a laugh every now and then.. it is an easy tactic. Imma gonna upload a gameplay i captured a few nights ago, used noobtubes/oma for most of it, think i ended on 80 kills and 6 deaths... but still... i know i can do just as well with most other guns.


It is anoying as ****, but really, i wouldn't say only noobs do it as im sure most people use it now and then.

From time to time myself on COD4 i'd throw on overkill with two guns with grenade launchers in a game of S&D, you'd get silly amounts of kills, but i felt bad doing it.

like that it's not so much people waiting around corners, i would say camping but i hate that phrase, with grenade launchers, but it's people that run around with them, and rockets and the likes that annoy me.

alanEire89

Dont have a problem with either!

dont mind anything else just de fecking knifing!!!!!!:mad:

minotour

Dont have a problem with either!

I hate the lightning knifers too, its such a crap kill, cant be satisfying to either party I reckon. I do however keep a "witch" class myself, just for Sabo or CTF, if my team is getting hammered its handy to be able to grab the objective and run it out of danger then switch back to normal class.

Paparazzo

Marathon, Lightweight Commando!

Noob tube for me. I hate when someone takes a pot shot in your general direction and grts the the kill. A game with 4 or 5 noob tubers is unplayable.
Nothing more satisfying than killing someone that refuses to use their gun and is running towards you with their knife

NufcNavan

Marathon, Lightweight Commando!

callaway92 wrote: »

I don't give a shíte about them...they're in the game to be used...tbh, it's the moaners that ruin the game

Good to see that people had a bite of your bait.