Short, smooth coated Yorkshire Puppy?

HenriettaR

Hi,

Got a puppy last week, she's about 8 weeks old now. Was told she was a Yorkshire Terrier and saw the parents but her coat is really short and smooth, not scruffy, like other Yorkie puppy photos I've seen, and today the vet said she looked more like a Jack Russell. Does anyone have any opinions?
http://s14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/french-teapot/?action=view&current=IMGP0670.jpg

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andreac

Can i ask how old the pup was in those pics? As it deffo does not look 8 weeks if you ask me, more like 4-5 weeks...

No, it doesnt look like a yorkie to me.

Where did you find the breeder and did you go to the breeders house and see the parents and see the other pups in the litter?
I really hope you have been to a puppy farmer and been done...

lrushe

I'd bet my right arm she's a mix, cute as a button though.:)
My only concern would be that she looks quiet young in those photos, are they recent. Hopefully she is 8 weeks old, enjoy her she's really sweet.

Edit: Andreac, you got there before me 80)

HenriettaR

She's about 6/7 weeks in the photos. Found the breeder on the internet, I saw the parents and the other puppies, there was only a litter of 3. She's sweet and I don't mind too much but I'm just a bit worried that she'll get bigger than I wanted or that she's mixed with a Jack Russell and will be very energetic.

andreac

Did you get papers for the pup? Were the parents registered with IKC?

Where on the internet did you find the breeder? There are sites full of dodgy, puppy farmer breeders like donedeal etc so i really hope you didnt get conned.

Were the pups advertised as pedigree registered dogs? What did the "parents" look like?

HenriettaR

Oh no.... You're saying everything I did... Donedeal, no papers... Parents looked like Yorkies alright but since I have no papers. I'd say the mother is one and maybe a Jack Russell came to call... Great.

andreac

This is why its vital you research the breeder before you buy any pedigree dog and check them out and suss them out too.

Its best to get a breeder recommended to you by someone reputable and not a dodgy one off the internet.

Did the breeder say the pup is IKC reg or coming with papers? What was the place like and was there any other breeds of dogs there too?

If you have a problem i would def go back to them and say you arent happy at all.

Have you any more pics of the pup?

HenriettaR

No, they just said Yorkshire pups on the ad. I went up to see them and he said I could collect her a week later. He had her vaccinated and wormed and all so I thought it seemed fairly safe. There were two other dogs there too, apart from the "parents", a German Shepherd (!) and another terrier looking dog. It was a farm, and the litter was in a kennel in a shed.
I'm obviously going to keep her now, she's lovely, but it's just a bit disappointing.
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andreac

Thats def not a yorkshire terrier, im sorry. I wouldnt be too happy with the breeder if you ask me. I would deffo be going back to them and explain you were under impression you bought a yorkie and this is obv not one...
Did the breeder give you papers for the pup? Was it advertised as IKC reg?

The whole thing sounds dodgy and esp the puppies being out in the shed... Its breeders like this that give all the other ones a bad name.

Sorry just realised you said they didnt have papers in last post. I really hope you didnt hand over much money for this pup..

boomerang

She'll need more than one worm dose and more than one vaccination, so a vet visit is definitely in order. Did the breeder give you a vaccination card?

lrushe

She has yorkie in her but is definately not full yorkie. It is an unfortunate lesson learnt about buying dogs from unreputable breeders, they will say almost anything to sell their pups. It would depend on what exactly the ad said, if it didn't claim the pups were purebred or offer IKC papers etc. I'm not sure what recourse you would have. You could still approach the 'breeder' (I use the term lightly) and tell them you are not happy with being mislead.

andreac

Another thing i noticed is that you said shes about 8 weeks now and you got her last week which would mean she was 7 weeks or less which isnt the right time to be taken from its mother/litter mates.
A pup should be at least 8-10 weeks before leaving the mother and siblings so again this is a bad sign and not what a responsible breeder would do.

Tryst

I would guess the german shepherd got to her she is definately a cross, cute as hell though she should be wormed every two weeks until 3 months old, then monthly until 6 months, then every 3 months for life. fleas can be treated every 3 months. Spay her at six or seven months. Oh and the puppy is too young to be vaccinated, the maternal antibodies the puppies get from the milk last up until 3 months old so any vaccination given before then is generally destroyed and no lasting immunity gained so she will need to have her vaccinations at 12 weeks and then again 2 weeks later. Oh and start training her now, the sooner the better before she develops any bad habits and while she is in the puppy eager to please phase. I would try contacting the irish kennel club and find out if there are any steps you can take regarding the dog not being a pure breed. The whole industry is just not very regulated in ireland though.

andreac

If the dog wasnt advertised as IKC reg then theres nothing the IKC can do so no point in contacting them.

Its a case of buyer beware and up to the new owner to research breederds before making a purchase and handing over money to these dodgy people.

morganafay

She is very cute whatever breed she is Hopefully the dad is the other terrier and not the german shepherd!

stargirl.gra

Last year my yorkie had a litter of five pups. I'm going to show some pictures below because I think the pictures of your little cutie do look like a yorkie but maybe this will help you because they change so much.

Here are all five pups
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Here's one of them- Millie at maybe 6weeks(?)
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Here's Millie at 7 months
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Millie at 10 months
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All the puppies daddy
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And here's the puppies wonderful mammy(on the right)
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So I guess what I'm trying to show here is that all the dogs and puppies are yorkies but all look very different and the puppies look really different as the months go by. I think you'll just have to wait and see how your little girl turns out and really all that matters is that you have her now and you love her. All the previous posts about buyer beware are so correct and yes if she is a cross it's totally awful that ppl are getting away with taking lots of money from ppl and pulling a fast one on them. Try and forget your disappointment and enjoy her

HenriettaR

Ah well, I guess I've learnt my lesson and I'll be more careful in future. My boyfriend got her for me, 300 euro which is a bit steep... It's disappointing, I had wanted a Yorkie in particular but she's still a lovely dog and a sweetie so she's worth it in that respect.

I don't think there's any point trying to take things further with the breeder, there was no receipt, no papers mentioned...

As for the vaccinations, I've brought her to the vet and all that is organised, so there's no trouble there.

Thanks everyone for your help.

Stargirl: Even your pups at their youngest look a lot scruffier than my dog. Her coat is just way too smooth and short for a Yorkie pup. Thanks for the photos though, interesting to see the real thing!

seamus

If it wasn't for her size, I would have said the colouring makes her look like a rottie.

As stargirl helpfully shows though, the strong black/tan colours seem to fade away as the dog grows older.

She's very cute, very hard to tell what the other breed might be at this stage. Give it a few weeks and the €300 will be inconsequential, you'll be besotted!

HenriettaR

My friends keep telling me she's going to be a doberman! Needless to say, I don't appreciate it, I wanted a Yorkie for the small size and not too demanding exercise needs.

Whatever she becomes though, I'll handle it. She's so sweet, a real little character.

toadfly

HenriettaR wrote: »

My friends keep telling me she's going to be a doberman! Needless to say, I don't appreciate it, I wanted a Yorkie for the small size and not too demanding exercise needs.

Whatever she becomes though, I'll handle it. She's so sweet, a real little character.

Yorkies need a fair bit of exercise, I have two are they would be wired to the moon without a walk! So much fun though wouldnt swap them!

She does look like a mini mini Rottie! Shes gorgeous though.

This is the only pic I have of Tilly on my work PC, she is about 10 weeks here.

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HenriettaR

Aw, she's so cute. Again though, while the colouring's the same, her hair is already much longer than my dog's. Hopefully I'll gain that way in easy grooming!

Bearpup

Hey there,

There is an advert on donedeal at the mo for Yorkshire Terrier pups and they look exactly like your pup! (who is very cute by the way) Im not sure if I can post the link there or not so maybe ill just post the pix?

toadfly

HenriettaR wrote: »

Aw, she's so cute. Again though, while the colouring's the same, her hair is already much longer than my dog's. Hopefully I'll gain that way in easy grooming!

I dont think you will know until she grows a bit, they change so much. I will have a look on the laptop at home tonight and post some more pictures for you!

lmcokane

Ive the same problem got a pup yesterday.Wanted a yorkie,didnt care if it was mixed so long as it looked like a yorkie. Clearly my pup is a ****zu/yorkie mix and the breeder who was recommened by a animal sanctuary tried to tell me the pup was pure yorkie. Not likely.

As i said I didnt care it was a mixed breed but I dont like being lied to.:mad:

andreac

lmcokane wrote: »

Ive the same problem got a pup yesterday.Wanted a yorkie,didnt care if it was mixed so long as it looked like a yorkie. Clearly my pup is a ****zu/yorkie mix and the breeder who was recommened by a animal sanctuary tried to tell me the pup was pure yorkie. Not likely.

As i said I didnt care it was a mixed breed but I dont like being lied to.:mad:

I dont get it, you say you didnt care if it was mixed, but yet are annoyed because it looks like a mix?? Doesnt make sense

If it was mixed it wouldnt look like a yorkie so you are totally contradicting yourself....
Did you get papers with the pup or ask to see the parents when you went to see the pups? Did you not realise when you went to see the pup that its not a full yorkie?

Think its a case of buyer beware if you ask me... People really need to do more research when buyer a puppy.

Toulouse

Which sanctuary recommended the breeder? Actually I can probably guess, does it start with a C and end with an N?

lmcokane

Toulouse wrote: »

Which sanctuary recommended the breeder? Actually I can probably guess, does it start with a C and end with an N?

Yeah u got it in one.

I didnt mind if it wasnt pure bred.
I just wanted a small dog with the appearance of a yorkie.

The woman said on the phone it was pure bred and I was delighted. Then went to see it - clearly not, she had a excuse about the papers about, why they werent IKC registered etc.

I love my pup. But i dont know why this woman was claiming the pup was purebred when anyone could see it wasnt.

andreac

lmcokane wrote: »

Yeah u got it in one.

I didnt mind if it wasnt pure bred.
I just wanted a small dog with the appearance of a yorkie.

The woman said on the phone it was pure bred and I was delighted. Then went to see it - clearly not, she had a excuse about the papers about, why they werent IKC registered etc.

I love my pup. But i dont know why this woman was claiming the pup was purebred when anyone could see it wasnt.

But if you wanted something that looked like a yorkie and it didnt, why did you take it?
And esp when she was telling you about the papers, surely you could have seen that she was filling you full of lies and even more so when the pup didnt look like a yorkie. Was the pup advertised as IKC reg Yorkshire terrier? If so i would be demanding my money back and taking it further.

I dont understand why you took the dog if it didnt look the way you wanted it to look. Surely you would have noticed this when picking out the pup.
Did you see the parents?

lmcokane

andreac wrote: »

But if you wanted something that looked like a yorkie and it didnt, why did you take it?
And esp when she was telling you about the papers, surely you could have seen that she was filling you full of lies and even more so when the pup didnt look like a yorkie. Was the pup advertised as IKC reg Yorkshire terrier? If so i would be demanding my money back and taking it further.

I dont understand why you took the dog if it didnt look the way you wanted it to look. Surely you would have noticed this when picking out the pup.
Did you see the parents?

Yes she had 2 adults yorkies. But i also saw a ****zu and a pom in the house.

I took the puppy because she was gorgeous she is small and black and tan just like a yorkie but she definatley has some ****zu in her.

I will upload a pic later and u can see it yourself.

I was told the pup was IKC reg. The woman wanted €335 for the pup.

I told her unless she got the papers I would give her €80 and she let me take the pup.

Dodgy dealer. I have put in a complaint to the IKC re: the breeder and the place that recommended her.

andreac

lmcokane wrote: »

Yes she had 2 adults yorkies. But i also saw a ****zu and a pom in the house.

I took the puppy because she was gorgeous she is small and black and tan just like a yorkie but she definatley has some ****zu in her.

I will upload a pic later and u can see it yourself.

I was told the pup was IKC reg. The woman wanted €335 for the pup.

I told her unless she got the papers I would give her €80 and she let me take the pup.

Dodgy dealer. I have put in a complaint to the IKC re: the breeder and the place that recommended her.

Im sorry, but you have absol no come back here whatsoever...

You saw the pup and knew it wasnt full bred but yet still took it

You told her you would only give 80euro as you didnt get the papers and she agreed so again, you have no comeback as you agreed to this.

Now you are trying to make a complaint when you agreed to taking a pup you knew wasnt full bred and accepted to buy without papers?:rolleyes:

Dodgy dealer, but yet you still handed over money to her knowing full well it was dodgy and which in turn funds her business of dodgy dealings, when will people learn?

HenriettaR

Bearpup, those puppies do look a lot like mine! Hmm... not sure what to think now.
Maybe I should just wait and see. In a couple of weeks her hair may grow longer.

Toulouse

lmcokane wrote: »

Yeah u got it in one.

Would use the term sanctuary in the loosest possible sense to describe that place. Surprised they didn't have any pups of their own to sell you.

Bearpup

HenriettaR wrote: »

Bearpup, those puppies do look a lot like mine! Hmm... not sure what to think now.
Maybe I should just wait and see. In a couple of weeks her hair may grow longer.

Hi HenriettaR,

Will PM you link to the rest of the pix

Tootle

HenriettaR wrote: »

Aw, she's so cute. Again though, while the colouring's the same, her hair is already much longer than my dog's. Hopefully I'll gain that way in easy grooming!

My pup is a Yorkshire/Jack Russell mix. He had short hair when I got him and now its quite shaggy. His colour on his face changed and his ears stuck up. I'll attach a pic of when I got him first, when he was a bit older and a now. The more recent one isn't good quality as it was taken on my phone but you can see his face anyway has gone from being darker to quite blonde.

Dont worry if your pup has Jack Russell in the mix. My fella is gorgeous and yeah he's lively but I wouldn't swop him for the world. I think the Jack Russell makes him less of a premadonna. Plus I cant stress enough to socialise your pup. Introduce him to everyone and everything.

Eibhin

It's unbelievable that people are still falling for this stuff from "breeders".

Does nobody do any research any more on who they are buying dogs from?

I have minded a lot of new dogs this summer that the owners have told me are "cavachons" or ****zu/cavaliers or maltese or westie etc and it is plain to see the dogs are nothing like the breed they have been told.

All very loved and very cute and the owners are none the wiser, and would probably pay for them anyway.

To the original poster....just enjoy your dog regardless of what it is/was/is supposed to be/looks like! It will love you unconditionally anyway!

artieanna

By the sound of things here the heart rules the head...

Once the puppy is seen and they are so cute the heart takes over and the logical thinking of 'is this dog really what I am looking for' 'is this dog reared in good conditions' gets lost..

I must admit though I am a softie myself:o

That lady was seriously pushing it though when she asked for €335 for a cross bred dog

PLEEZ BUYERS PLEASE BE AWARE OF WHAT YOU ARE BUYING AND WHO YOU ARE BUYING FROM!!!

Wisco

Anyone who looks on donedeal.ie is likely to be scammed. Good breeders don't have to advertise- their pups are spoken for even before they're born.
I know this may sound harsh, but I have no sympathy for anyone who buys a 'purebred' and doesn't come home with the real deal. If you can be taken in by this sort of thing it means you haven't done your homework on researching a reputable breeder.
Having said that, sounds like the OP is enjoying the new pup which is the main reason to get a dog anyway.

crally

hi

you should report this! cannot believe that this person knowingly sold a dog as a pedigree and it turns out to be a mongrel (no offense intended). please report this as this is probably a puppy farm and should be checked out. it is theft really. :mad:

coco_lola

Hi there OP,

very sorry to hear about what happened, but you know what? Never mind... Its a sucky situation, definitely, but obviously it seems like nothing can be done now, by the sounds of it, this breeder just wanted to make money and didn't care about the welfare of the dog.. Sure you got her a little early, but by the sounds of this "breeder", she was nearly better off coming to you! Forget the money, forget the breed... Just realise that you have a gorgeous little puppy, that if cared for and loved, will show you unconditional love to you for the rest of her life, and loves you no matter what.. Very few people we can say that for!! All you need to do is make sure she gets a good start, is seen regularly by the vet, and it will be fine. At least you will know for future, should you ever decide to get another puppy.That "breeder" will get no luck... you should be excited, you are about to embark on a puppy adventure, which is so much fun (though sometimes you'll want to tear you hair out from exhaustion, I just got a 10 week old Westie myself!! )

She definitely looks to have JRT in the mix, and I wouldn't worry about it too much anyway, JRTs are great little dogs, very smart.. no matter what she'll have loads of energy anyway as all terriers seem to have boundless energy, and then reserve tanks just in case, as Ive seen with my pup!!

Good luck, and enjoy!