History of rush

Martron

I am always fascianted with bits of pieces of history i hear and see about rush and even surrounding areas.

For example the picture of the chaincs corsendonk posted and the pictures and piece of story about kenure house portico.

I would love to see some pictures and even more stories about rush.
so if anyone has any please share!!!


For example the plane crash in loughshinny in 1913 i think .
and the ship wreck on lambay island.

Not sure of the details but sounds fascinating.

Thanks in advance of any bits and pieces

LeoB

Jeasus I have work tomorrow, my alarm set for 5.10am.

Where do you start? I love this place, great place to live with plenty of good people around the town, old and new and think its great to hear stories if possible, over a pint is even better. I will try and dig out a book I have and will give you a lend of it Martron

Fr Kit Sheridan is facinating to have a chat with. He has done huge research into local geneology and history and often gives talks on various topics. Rush historical society are quite good also. The local community news often has articles on local history so keep an eye out. You may be able to get old copies in Community centre.

There are quite a few local papers on the Palmer estate and no shortage of pictures.

One thing I like locally are local place names,
Dempseys corner
Roaring well
Kings gap
The hole in the wall
Mariners point
Ladys cove
Coopers Bank
The Long Hollow
The Hilly Skilly's
Goldn ridge.
I mentioned in a previous thread about nice signposts made from slash hook blades, well maybe name plates with a date would be a good idea.

I think if people knew where these places were they could possibly draw a little picture in their mind and have it partially painted at a historical. society talk

Corsendonk. I would say you could paint a good picture of a few spots around Rush. While I am into photography now I really regret not having a camera 25 - 30 years ago.

The shipwreck off Lambay Island is the John Tayleur which was sailing from Liverpool to U.S.A when it hit rocks in a storm or fog. The anchor on the square is from the wreck and was recovered by Drogheda sub aqua club a number of years ago.

Echlin COURT beside Eurospar is named after Lizzy Echlin of the aforementioned Echlin family. I remember this site as a flower farm ran by William Ruigrok. Echlin Court is built about 20-25 years.

A memory I hav from childhood is of Dr. Cusack from the harbour walking to the pump at the slip, just down from the Harbour Bar. He was member of first dail I think. I have a photograph of Eamon De Valera at his funeral in Rush about 1972/73 with my mother in the background and a few local charachters. Little did I realise I was in the presence of such history.

Anyone remember Englebert Humperdink playing in the Palladium ballroom?

Maybe we need to take a topic or decade at a time.

Oh one thing I do remember is Gerties sweetshop accross from Eurospar and I see its about to open again. Clove rocks, cola cubes, bonbons wonder will they have trigger bars?

Corsendonk

Some very interesting links for more about the sinking of the Tayleur off Lambay. I did hear when they went to carry out building work on Lambay Harbour in the 30/40s they undercovered the bodies of some of the dead that had been buried in a hurry. Among the cargo of the ship were Headstones for the new world.

http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/johntayleur.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Tayleur

http://www.mii.connect.ie/history/Tayleur/Tayleur.html

http://www.donabateparishcouncil.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=70:the-wreck-of-the-john-tayleur&catid=25:history&Itemid=81

Interesting article on the Tayleur Fund medal awarded for bravery to coastguards up until 1913.
http://www.coastguardsofyesteryear.org/articles.php?article_id=12

Martron

this is great. i have flicked through it but this is very fascinting.

on the subject of engelbert humperdink.

i heard johnny cash played in rush once, i could be imaging this though

Martron

this is amazing stuff. where are you getting this from

LeoB

That is a fantastic bit of work.

There are quite a few connections between the directory of Rush and today. Have to go out now will post back later

sashasdad

great thread, really interesting stuff. i've been using the griffith valuation while researching my family tree and i thought i'd post the link here for anyone interested in looking up the records of tenants of the palmer family.
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=placeSearch

Martron

copper mines, ancient churches, smugglers, ship wrecks. this is amazing.

i am going to a bit of indiana jones stuff tomorrow and find me a some copper.

LeoB

Martron wrote: »

copper mines, ancient churches, smugglers, ship wrecks. this is amazing.

i am going to a bit of indiana jones stuff tomorrow and find me a some copper.

Speaking of smugglers that new coffe shop on Lr. Main St is supposed to be excellent.

Looking at the names quite a few have survived. One caught my eye. About 8 - 10 months ago a chap was on here from Boston trying to trace his family who emigrated in the early 1900s. They are now big fish merchants in U.S. He has done huge work collecting information and the name O'Hara hopped off the page at me. I put him in touch with some people and he completed the jigsaw.

That Owen Corr mentioned above I have a feeling I could have met his son, maybe he is not related but I would be suprised if he is not. Owen Corr used to come home to Rush from Coventry every summer and would always get to a few matchs with Jimmy Bissett. Owen was elderly when I knew him back in the 80s I will make enquirey over the week end. Interestingly A man living in Rush, David Snook has done some amazing research on Irish seamen and the name William McGee of Chapel Green lost his life possibly to a German uboat. Again I will make enquiries.

My uncle John "Big Rock" was one of many who went to see from Rush, Big Willie McGann from Hayestown, Andy Bissett from the golf rd was another, they had great stories.

The Blacksmiths mentioned bring back memories. I remember Langans forge working on Lr Main St. Kitty Langan was a blacksmith there but emigrated to Canada in 1946. He was in St. Maurs pipe band. The summer music school in Rush is named after him Scoil Samarah Chris Langan. I remember "Kitty" coming home most summers and you would not meet a nicer man. He made Uillean Pipes in Canada.

I had my first pint in Armstrongs (now Carlyan pub) and remember older people saying they were going to Derhams for a pint when I would have know it as the Cradle Rock now the Michael Collins.

When I see the name Follenus I think of the Harbour bar. Chicken on the spit on a Sunday, bus loads of tourists and Pat Sheridan and his band on a Sunday night And another that caught my eye brings me back to my very early days, Grimley. I remember Jenny Grimley as an old woman living a few doors down from the Harbour Bar, back in the late 60s. She lived where that car crashed into the house last year.

I will point a few other this way and hopefully they will join in. Martron if you see me about remind me about that book I will lend you. I had a book published a few years ago but it only covered the G.A.A.
CORSENDONK, If I win the lotto I see a new history book coming out.

Oh one more thing as Columbo might say, As a fundraiser for the building of Rush G.N.S I heard Lady Palmer had a concert at which the star attraction was Margaret Burke Sheridan the first Irish woman to sing in the famous La Scala opera house in Milan also nicknamed. Can any historians here confirm this.

Martron

how is smugglers related to the coffee shop. saw the tables outside it today . might pop down for a coffee.

itds funny i never paid much attention to the street names around here and i whipped open google earth. and looked at the older street names. its great. i love this stuff.

and its great hearing about the stories and the fascinating people that lived here. rush is steeped in history it amazing.

you should set up a tour leo.

is there a historic society ?

Maybe with a bit of the eirgrid money we could have a historic day with an old band and chicken on a spit and warm guiness down near the harbour bar!!


would be interested in making this a sticky would hate this to get lost in the threads

LeoB

Martron wrote: »

how is smugglers related to the coffee shop. saw the tables outside it today . might pop down for a coffee.

itds funny i never paid much attention to the street names around here and i whipped open google earth. and looked at the older street names. its great. i love this stuff.

and its great hearing about the stories and the fascinating people that lived here. rush is steeped in history it amazing.

you should set up a tour leo.

is there a historic society ?

Maybe with a bit of the eirgrid money we could have a historic day with an old band and chicken on a spit and warm guiness down near the harbour bar!!


would be interested in making this a sticky would hate this to get lost in the threads

Where the Coffee shop is was where Jack the smuggler lived. I spoke to a girl who worked in that house and she reckoned it was haunted!!

Back tomorrow up in a few hours.

Corsendonk

LeoB wrote: »

That Owen Corr mentioned above I have a feeling I could have met his son, maybe he is not related but I would be suprised if he is not. Owen Corr used to come home to Rush from Coventry every summer and would always get to a few matchs with Jimmy Bissett. Owen was elderly when I knew him back in the 80s I will make enquirey over the week end. Interestingly A man living in Rush, David Snook has done some amazing research on Irish seamen and the name William McGee of Chapel Green lost his life possibly to a German uboat. Again I will make enquiries.
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The Owen Corr or "O" you met was Owen Corr cousin and much too old to be his son. He would have been Jimmy uncle if i am correct. Not really a surprise that people with the same name are related in Rush and Loughshinny is it......

Corsendonk

Skerries Mills 1910-30 as requested, perhaps someone can identify the buildings in the background?

The Hill Billy

Hi All,

Brilliant as this thread is & many thanks to Corsendonk for his great local knowledge & access to information - you cannot post material here for which you do not hold the copyright.

By all means provide a link to other sites, but quoting whole tranches of material could put boards.ie on dodgy ground.

I'm genuinely sorry to have had to remove those posts, but rules is rules.

Don't let the thread die - it is one of the best here in ages.

HB

An update on this: I've asked for direction from the Admins as to whether I can reinstate the posts removed. If they're ok with it I'll pop them back up straight away.

LeoB

Corsendonk wrote: »

The Owen Corr or "O" you met was Owen Corr cousin and much too old to be his son. He would have been Jimmy uncle if i am correct. Not really a surprise that people with the same name are related in Rush and Loughshinny is it......

Was hoping to bump into Jimmmy's sister today. He was a great crack when he came to games.

Martron

looking around there. not necessarily rush but makes an interesting read.

http://www.loughshinnyvillage.com/smugglerscave.htm

i would love to know more about this mine. anyone any ideas about where i can find info about it. or even the location of it?

i knw there is mine road in loughshinny but anyone have any idea where it could have been.

is there undercground tunnels? its suggested in the above link that a cave is linked to the mine.

sashasdad

Martron wrote: »

looking around there. not necessarily rush but makes an interesting read.

http://www.loughshinnyvillage.com/smugglerscave.htm

i would love to know more about this mine. anyone any ideas about where i can find info about it. or even the location of it?

i knw there is mine road in loughshinny but anyone have any idea where it could have been.

is there undercground tunnels? its suggested in the above link that a cave is linked to the mine.

To find the cave:
On the Skerries side of the Loughshinny crossroads theres a lane way to the left with a sign post for the 'millennium walk'. Follow that and walk along the coast in the direction of Skerries and you'll come across it. Hopefully somebody else will have better directions for you. I was in it a few times as a kid and can remember coming out caked in muck.

sashasdad

While the copyright issue is being sorted out, I've found a link to some of the info Corsendonk was good enough to post http://www.chaptersofdublin.com/books/Neighbourhood/chapter30.html

Corsendonk

Loughshinny Copper Mine

Some photos

http://www.mindat.org/article.php/517/A+history+of+Loughshinny+-+Textbook+Folds+and+the+Copper+Mine+Fault

sashasdad

http://www.chaptersofdublin.com/books/shortpar/shortpar4.htm

Some interesting stuff but what really caught my eye is the account given of a McLeod/McCloud who was in charge of the fishing vessel in which Bonny Prince Charlie escaped the British. He settled in Rush and changed his name from McLeod to McCloud.

Small paragraph on Rush as seen in 1837
http://www.libraryireland.com/topog/r2.php

LeoB

sashasdad wrote: »

http://www.chaptersofdublin.com/books/shortpar/shortpar4.htm

Some interesting stuff but what really caught my eye is the account given of a McLeod/McCloud who was in charge of the fishing vessel in which Bonny Prince Charlie escaped the British. He settled in Rush and changed his name from McLeod to McCloud.

Small paragraph on Rush as seen in 1837
http://www.libraryireland.com/topog/r2.php

I was only reading a bit on this item this evening. McLeod cam from Isle of Skye and eventually while on the run sheltered in Rush. There was a reward fof £30,000 dead or alive on his head. As explained above he changed his name and it ended up McGlew. Does anyone remember Maggie McGlew selling the eggs on the channel Rd?

Martron on ther caves there is also the danes cave. It can be see from the walk to drummanagh from Rush or Loughshinny.

LeoB

How do we put a it of shape on this.

Rush -Ros Eó, Peninsula of the yew tree.

In the 12 centuary a group of sailors returning from the holy land were caught up in a storm and promised in their prayers they would build a chapel where ever they land. They cme ashore at Rogerstown and built the chapel overlooking the the estuary. They had prayed to St. Maurs and that is how we have the name in Rush.

Rush for many years was the market gardening capital of Ireland. hence when driving along the roads you will often see the sign "Rush spuds for sale". Fishing was quite big over a centuay ago

Corsendonk

LeoB wrote: »

I was only reading a bit on this item this evening. McLeod cam from Isle of Skye and eventually while on the run sheltered in Rush. There was a reward fof £30,000 dead or alive on his head. As explained above he changed his name and it ended up McGlew. Does anyone remember Maggie McGlew selling the eggs on the channel Rd? .

Vaguely, my mother use to get eggs from her. She did tell me that story too.

Another famous son of Rush or infamous!! There are recorded accounts that some of his men collected ears. Not much has changed in the Congo.

http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/people_hoare.html


Matron Loughshinny is technically linked with Rush as it comes under the Parish of Rush. I did hear a barrage balloon landed in Loughshinny during WW2 The local ladies appreciated the gift of the material.

Corsendonk

National Heritage week 21st August- 29th


Highlights include:
A talk on sporting stars from Fingal
Loughshinny Historical walk
Walking tour of Swords
Skerries Mills

http://www.heritageweek.ie/index.php/whats-on/

I should say this is a Europe wide intiative from the EU for people to share in there culture, treaty of Maastricht if I remember correctly so good opportunity to drag your fellow european friends along to some of the events to show them the rich history of Fingal.

Chinafoot

For those with a penchant for local history in Fingal, you should check out Fingal Local Studies & Archives which is based in Swords.

The staff there are fantastic and really, really helpful and they have some amazing stock.

The Fingal Sporting Heroes talk will be held there and is actually being given by the former Fingal County Librarian. Should be really good.

spurious

This may be of interest:
Rush Directory 1912

Corsendonk

1913 Loughshinny Plane Crash

In 1913 a plane containing two men crashed off the coast of Loughshinny.
The pilot was Harry Hawker from Australia who was aiming to be the first man to fly around the British Isles. He had learnt to fly the previous year and went on to found the Hawker Air Company which developed the Hurricane which helped defeat the Germans in the Battle of Britain. Further reading about the crash can be found at the links below.


Image of the plane when it landed at Cromarty in North East Scotland.




http://www.loughshinnyvillage.com/aircrash.htm

http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/hawker.html

http://adbonline.anu.edu.au/biogs/A090236b.htm

https://stillslibrary.rte.ie/indexplus/image/0510/023.html

http://www.fingal-independent.ie/opinion/editorial/the-day-a-flying-legend-crashed-in-loughshinny-785636.html

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9D02EFDB163DE633A2575BC2A96E9C946296D6CF

The Hill Billy

I've shifted the general chat & sporting/scouting posts over to the Off-Topic thread. The OP is interested in the History of Rush - not a school reunion - so let's keep it to that please.

Thanks,

HB

Corsendonk

Martello Towers

Throughout Fingals coastline can be seen towers know as Martello Towers. The name comes from Mortello(italian for Hammer) in Corsica were the Genovese had built a round shaped tower as part of the coastal defence. The watchers in the towers would signal with fire to the locals if they could see an attacking force at sea. The English were so impressed by the structure when they attacked the tower, that they decided to copy the design for a series of defensive towers throughout the British Isles from 1804 to fend off a Napoloenic invasion. The towers were never tested but proved effective at limiting smugglling operations. The last Martello tower to be built was in Sydney Australia to protect the harbour from a possible attack from the Russians during the Crimea War.

http://www.martellotowers.ie/new_page_5.htm

http://www.martellotowersutton.com/#/index.html

http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/search.jsp?type=highlights&county=FI&hid=37

http://www.360cities.net/image/ireland-howth-martello-tower#68.90,3.00,70.0

Diagram of the inside of a Martello Tower.

Beasty

Corsendonk wrote: »

1913 Loughshinny Plane Crash

In 1913 a plane containing two men crashed off the coast of Loughshinny.
The pilot was Harry Hawker from Australia who was aiming to be the first man to fly around the British Isles. He had learnt to fly the previous year and went on to found the Hawker Air Company which developed the Hurricane which helped defeat the Germans in the Battle of Britain. Further reading about the crash can be found at the links below.

Some great research there Corsendonk - I see from a couple of the articles you linked that the plane was completely stripped by souvenir hunters - anyone from the area care to admit to having a propellor hanging up above their fireplace:)?

Martron

that souds like a piece that would be hanging on the wall of a local pub