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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,480 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    yekahs wrote: »
    Yet, you know what its all about, before even joining?

    It's not exactly the best kept secret in the world now is it?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    nullzero wrote: »
    It's not exactly the best kept secret in the world now is it?

    Ok, so let me get this straight. When you join, you are a pawn and you will never find out secrets for 50 years(I'm not convinced there is any, BTW). But a young poster on boards, knows all the secrets already somehow?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,480 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    yekahs wrote: »
    Ok, so let me get this straight. When you join, you are a pawn and you will never find out secrets for 50 years(I'm not convinced there is any, BTW). But a young poster on boards, knows all the secrets already somehow?

    There's no mystery to what goes on in freemasonry especially at the first three levels that most never rise above, so yeah the dogs on the street know.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    nullzero wrote: »
    There's no mystery to what goes on in freemasonry especially at the first three levels that most never rise above, so yeah the dogs on the street know.

    Why do you think there is higher degrees than Master Mason?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn




    What the Freemasons believe is no great secret. What the people at top of the ladder do is a secret.

    Freemasons know that Jesus is in fact Lucifer and that Christianity is simply the worship of Lucifer. He is one in the same. Christians have been tricked onto believing they worship the son of God. Freemasons know the real truth. This guy just let the cat out of the bag.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,480 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    yekahs wrote: »
    Why do you think there is higher degrees than Master Mason?

    There are, I'm sure you'd be aware of this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Cause Alistair Crowley says so :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    Torakx wrote: »
    Cause Alistair Crowley says so :)

    In fairness, if anyone were to know the real secrets behind Freemasonry it'd be Crowley. As far as I know, he's the only non-Freemason that was allowed to observe secret Masonic rituals. Were you trying to make this point or just being facetious?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    demonspawn wrote: »


    This guy just let the cat out of the bag.

    Seemed to me that guy was just ripping the p**s out of the gullible fool with the camera.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    Duiske wrote: »
    Seemed to me that guy was just ripping the p**s out of the gullible fool with the camera.

    Maybe, maybe not. Didn't seem to me he was joking, he even angrily corrected the cameraman with his quote, "I'm pure and virtuous and wholesome and innocent." He looked pretty damn serious to me.

    Oh, and the Jack and Jill foundation strives to prolong the suffering of mortally ill children and dump the cost of "care" (torture) onto the State. Very nice to have in your signature then come here to defend the Freemasons.
    Baphomet is calling, better go see what he wants.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 themrhubarbs


    joebucks wrote: »
    Howya man. The material you are posting is very interesting and I will certainly investigate it more. Fair play on creating your own blog, however only problem I have is with the colors on the page..it is quite difficult to read feels a bit too MK Ultra to me!

    It's not programming. Everything I have written is in clear and concise English. The colours are clearly not programming colours, I have tried to recreate the Irish flag with those colours.

    There are no images apart from one of the tricolour so it clearly is not a programming blog.

    That and the fact it tries to give you the facts and analysis, makes it obvious it is not a programming blog.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 themrhubarbs


    The Orange Order does Masonic rites.

    The Freemasons are anti-Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    It's not programming. Everything I have written is in clear and concise English. The colours are clearly not programming colours, I have tried to recreate the Irish flag with those colours.

    There are no images apart from one of the tricolour so it clearly is not a programming blog.

    That and the fact it tries to give you the facts and analysis, makes it obvious it is not a programming blog.

    Wow, you mention programming 4 times in that post and you know what programming colors are.


    *psst* I think we're being programmed.

    <.<
    >.>

    Edit: Ahaha!! On closer inspection of the website (I didn't look at it in the first place), it's a Freemason's site! It's got the "G" and everything. Damn, you guys should really try a bit harder. "G" pod :rolleyes:
    If you introduce this rubbish to people here, they may begin to read it and believe the lies there. Is that the plan?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    Ok and in regards to my username, it was the word verification thing, it has no meaning to me beyond that.

    I hope they're not paying you for this. If so they should demand their money back.

    facepalm.jpg


    FREEMASONS HAVE INFILTRATED THE PREMISES.

    EVERYONE TO YOUR BATTLE STATIONS!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    yekahs wrote: »
    Ok, so let me get this straight. When you join, you are a pawn and you will never find out secrets for 50 years(I'm not convinced there is any, BTW). But a young poster on boards, knows all the secrets already somehow?

    Oh, you're too kind. I'm actually 30 and have been researching Freemasons and the Occult since I was a teenager. I know they secretly worship Lucifer, as he is the bringer of secret knowledge. I know they practice ritual magic and hold magic numbers in high regard, which is why they are everywhere. Even the "G" is a magic number in disguise. It is the third letter in the ancient languages and the seventh in English. 3 and 7 are magical numbers. Freemasonry is all about deception and concealment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    demonspawn wrote: »

    Oh, and the Jack and Jill foundation strives to prolong the suffering of mortally ill children and dump the cost of "care" (torture) onto the State.

    I was not defending freemasons as a group. I was giving my take on the video you posted.

    I care not what you think of that particular charity, or any other for that matter. It has absolutely nothing to do with this thread.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    demonspawn wrote: »
    Oh, and the Jack and Jill foundation strives to prolong the suffering of mortally ill children and dump the cost of "care" (torture) onto the State. Very nice to have in your signature then come here to defend the Freemasons.
    Baphomet is calling, better go see what he wants.
    Charming thing to say about a charity, you don't happen to have a source for that outrageous comment do you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    On 29 February 1996 Jack Irwin was born – a bonny bouncy baby. Two days later he suffered some invasive trauma in the hospital’s nursery.
    While history does not reveal the immediate aftermath of this drama, it is probable that he died and was resuscitated. Certainly from that moment on, Jack could not swallow and was probably blind and deaf. His parent’s dreams were shattered and the heartbreaking task of keeping Jack alive began.
    Asked for a route map of care for Jack once he left their intensive care unit, it was made clear that there were simply no services in Ireland available to a baby like Jack. He cautioned that Jack’s needs would threaten the marriage and certainly damage the childhood of his healthy brothers and sister. To escape this trap, he advised the only way out was to get him admitted to one of the children’s hospitals. Then and only then would the State have to take responsibility for him.
    Jack lived for 22 months – a desperate and painful life. A mix of drugs, physio, postural drainage, seizures, reflux operations, gastrostomy and suctioning. The only saving grace was that he was cosy and warm and nursed around the clock by a dedicated band of five housewives from the neighbourhood.


    https://www.jackandjill.ie/who-we-are/

    They torture babies, or encourage parents to torture their babies and have the state pay for it. Happy now?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    demonspawn wrote: »

    They torture babies, or encourage parents to torture their babies and have the state pay for it. Happy now?

    I really should have sympathy for you, but....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    Duiske wrote: »
    I really should have sympathy for you, but....

    Save your sympathy for the babies forced to suffer untold agony by your wonderful "charity". I don't need or want it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 344 ✭✭veXual


    demonspawn wrote: »
    They torture babies, or encourage parents to torture their babies and have the state pay for it. Happy now?

    How do they torture babies?? They provide care/support during the child's lifespan to both the child and the family. There is nothing there to suggest that they attempt to prolong an ill child's life, only make them as comfortable as they possibly can.

    This would be similar to a palliative care unit, it's purpose is to support someone who is terminally ill. Do you oppose something like that as well?

    Saying the Jack and Jill foundation torture children is a bit of an outlandish statement...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    veXual wrote: »
    How do they torture babies?? They provide care/support during the child's lifespan to both the child and the family. There is nothing there to suggest that they attempt to prolong an ill child's life, only make them as comfortable as they possibly can.

    This would be similar to a palliative care unit, it's purpose is to support someone who is terminally ill. Do you oppose something like that as well?

    Saying the Jack and Jill foundation torture children is a bit of an outlandish statement...

    I think he knows all that, but its just whatever is lacking in him makes him feel the need to come out with these "Look at Me, I'm controversial" type statements. Nothing controversial about him or his statements though. Just ridiculously ignorant of basic facts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    demonspawn wrote: »
    Save your sympathy for the babies forced to suffer untold agony by your wonderful "charity". I don't need or want it.
    Again I'll ask for some proof or evidence here? You're now moving into libelous territory amongst other things...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    Pure comedy gold :D

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    gizmo wrote: »
    Again I'll ask for some proof or evidence here? You're now moving into libelous territory amongst other things...

    It's a "charity" who's aim is the prolong the pain and suffering of mortally ill children. For what purpose they are doing this one can only guess. Any person with the slightest bit of compassion would seek the lessen a child's pain and suffering, not prolong it with drugs, endless surgeries, or whatever else these sick people do to children.
    Jack lived for 22 months – a desperate and painful life. A mix of drugs, physio, postural drainage, seizures, reflux operations, gastrostomy and suctioning.

    Looks like pornography for sadists to me, something like what Joseph Mengele would get off on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    demonspawn wrote: »
    It's a "charity" who's aim is the prolong the pain and suffering of mortally ill children. For what purpose they are doing this one can only guess. Any person with the slightest bit of compassion would seek the lessen a child's pain and suffering, not prolong it with drugs, endless surgeries, or whatever else these sick people do to children.
    You still haven't given any proof.

    If your sole objection is the fact that they provide care and support to sick kids when you would prefer for them to be killed, what you're suggesting is forced euthanasia and eugenics.
    demonspawn wrote: »
    Looks like pornography for sadists to me, something like what Joseph Mengele would get off on.
    So poor Jack should have been put out of his misery instead of being given a change to live? Odd that you'd compare it to the behavior of Mengele when your alternative is exactly what the Nazi's themselves advocated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    gizmo wrote: »
    If your sole objection is the fact that they provide care and support to sick kids when you would prefer for them to be killed, what you're suggesting is forced euthanasia and eugenics.

    Yes, I believe in eugenics based solely on compassionate grounds. To allow a child to die naturally instead of pumping them full of drugs to keep them alive for a short life of untold pain and suffering. Who's the sadist in that scenario?
    So poor Jack should have been put out of his misery instead of being given a change to live? Odd that you'd compare it to the behavior of Mengele when your alternative is exactly what the Nazi's themselves advocated.

    The child had no chance of survival. The doctor told the parents this. All the parents are doing is prolonging the child's suffering because of their inability to come to terms with reality. Get your facts straight before you try to argue whatever point you're trying to make. The child had already died two days after his birth but was resuscitated.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    demonspawn wrote: »
    Yes, I believe in eugenics based solely on compassionate grounds. To allow a child to die naturally instead of pumping them full of drugs to keep them alive for a short life of untold pain and suffering. Who's the sadist in that scenario?
    I assume you meant euthanasia there as "compassionate grounds" doesn't really apply to eugenics. As for whether the child should be allowed to die, what of those children who do make a recovery?
    demonspawn wrote: »
    The child had no chance of survival. The doctor told the parents this. All the parents are doing is prolonging the child's suffering because of their inability to come to terms with reality. Get your facts straight before you try to argue whatever point you're trying to make. The child had already died two days after his birth but was resuscitated.
    It's hard to get "facts" after you provided only a first name, no source and no further details on the case. This is where my numerous calls for proof come in handy.

    As for the case in question, I'm sure it describes many other cases, including those in which the child did make a recovery and went on to live for many more years to come. These are the children you are condemning to death by withholding treatment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    gizmo wrote: »
    It's hard to get "facts" after you provided only a first name, no source and no further details on the case. This is where my numerous calls for proof come in handy.

    What proof do you want? That story is from the Jack and Jill website which I've already linked so give a rest. Go ask them where they got it.
    As for the case in question, I'm sure it describes many other cases, including those in which the child did make a recovery and went on to live for many more years to come. These are the children you are condemning to death by withholding treatment.

    Those children are going to die regardless. Terminally ill means they are going to die regardless of what you do. There are some things we can do to make children more comfortable for the duration of their lives. Pumping them full of drugs is not one of them. That is no life to live.

    I'm done with this argument as it's just winding me up. If you have a problem with what I believe then that's fine. I really don't give a sh*t however, so don't waste any more of your time or my own on this discussion.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    demonspawn wrote: »
    Those children are going to die regardless. Terminally ill means they are going to die regardless of what you do. There are some things we can do to make children more comfortable for the duration of their lives. Pumping them full of drugs is not one of them. That is no life to live.
    Again it depends on individual cases, some children will be able to live part of their lives with non invasive care and drugs which are not detrimental to them while they are alive. Either way however, none of us here are qualified to make those kinds of calls and charities such as these exist to make the lives of the people involved easier.
    demonspawn wrote: »
    I'm done with this argument as it's just winding me up. If you have a problem with what I believe then that's fine. I really don't give a sh*t however, so don't waste any more of your time or my own on this discussion.
    Sorry but that's not how a forum works, if you're going to accuse a charity foundation whose aim is to provide care and support for sick children, regardless of their condition, and their parents of the things you've described then you're going to have to deal with questioning and criticism.


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