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Kindle 2

  • 30-07-2010 1:49pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 33


    Just had my new Kindle delivered this morning... and I have to say I'm impressed so far, it's a really sweet device.

    I was thinking though, that you should be able to download for free, a kindle version of all the purchases that you made on Amazon prior to purchasing a kindle. I've got a shelf full of books I've bought off Amazon over the years, quite a few of them un-read, and would love to be able to get these onto my Kindle without having to buy the flippin things again. This isn't possible, is it?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 Caoimhin.


    Though as much, thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭bp1989


    You do know the Kindle 3 is coming out Aug 27th? You can return your K2 in exchange for a preorder..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭Packet


    Does the free web browsing over 3G work in Ireland?

    I just upgraded my pre-order for the new Kindle from WiFi to 3G on the strength of that feature.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭bp1989


    According to Amazon it does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭celebroom


    bp1989 wrote: »
    According to Amazon it does.

    Correct. I ordered my Kindle 3 on the basis that it specifically says on Amazon.com that I _can_ take advantage of the free 3G in ireland. I was most impressed that it apparently even works in South Africa!

    I am however a bit confused as to why I HAVE to order it from amazon.com, and more to the point, why Amazon.co.uk does not supply it to Eire? It was a serious wtf moment for me :eek:

    Amazon have offices here (albeit IT related infrastructure and not other services _afaik_) and yet we have to order something like the Kindle 3 from the US?

    Anyway. Meh.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭bp1989


    Yes, it's weird. I tried ordering it from amazon uk first but was told to order it from amazon.com instead.

    You might also notice that we can only order the graphite version. For some reason the white isn't available in Ireland? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭boobar


    I was thinking of buying one of these new kindles. Seems like a very cool gadget. My only concerns are:

    What are the price of kindle books in comparison to paperback or hardback new releases? You'd expect it to be cheaper to buy the kindle book....

    The other thing is what is the selection like? Hardly worth buying if you are limited to a small selection.

    Boobar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,577 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Big shame that we cant buy it from Ireland, there seems to be a lot disscussing that very topic over on amazon kindles discussions.


    I put the kindle 3g from amazon.com into my basket ,price is as follows
    Items: $189.00 Shipping & Handling: $20.98 pixel-grey._V192251177_.gif Total Before Tax: $209.98 Estimated Tax:* $0.00 Import Fees Deposit $44.10 transparent-pixel._V192234675_.gif Order Total: $254.08
    As of today
    254.08 U.S. dollars = 192.952612 Euros




    Now for amazon.co.uk.
    The kindle 3g is £149 for delivery to the UK , If you have anyone over there or in Northern Ireland then you can do it that way.

    As of today:
    149 British pounds = 179.822904 Euros



    Other than the awkardness of the whole thing ordering from the US , I cant see any other disadvantages of ordering from the USA.
    Of course you will have to buy an adapter for the plug.

    What about the actual kindle store, will we in ireland have to buy the kindle books from the amazon.com kindle store or can we buy from the amazon uk kindle store?
    Also are the kindles from both websites identical or are they slightly different ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,577 ✭✭✭Pangea


    boobar wrote: »
    I was thinking of buying one of these new kindles. Seems like a very cool gadget. My only concerns are:

    What are the price of kindle books in comparison to paperback or hardback new releases? You'd expect it to be cheaper to buy the kindle book....

    The other thing is what is the selection like? Hardly worth buying if you are limited to a small selection.

    Boobar

    Kindle books are cheaper
    The girl with the dragon tatoo sells at $5.30 while paper edition is $7.14.
    Think of all the trees that will be saved thanks to the kindle etc.
    Im sure there will be a great selection of kindle books ,but that is a good point, in a few months time they expect kindle book sales to beat paper editions so im sure the selection will become better and better.
    I personally havent many books , I have around 15, and they take up a lot of space, I think the kindle would be fantastic, Digital all the way!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭bp1989


    Pangea wrote: »
    What about the actual kindle store, will we in ireland have to buy the kindle books from the amazon.com kindle store or can we buy from the amazon uk kindle store?
    Also are the kindles from both websites identical or are they slightly different ?

    You can only buy kindle books from the store you bought the kindle from. So we in Ireland can only buy from Amazon US.

    AFAIK they're the very same model.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭Packet


    You can change the country associated with your kindle to UK using

    http://www.amazon.com/manageyourkindle

    However you also need a UK invoice address with your amazon.co.uk account before it is possible to purchase Kindle books from the UK Amazon site.

    Here's a response on the matter someone on the Amazon.co.uk discussion boards got from Amazon.

    "Dear Sir, Thank you for contacting Amazon.co.uk. If you purchase a Kindle from Amazon.co.uk you'll be able to download content and shop in the Kindle Store as long as your invoice address is set up in the UK. In your case, if you purchase a Kindle and ship it to Northern Ireland but then you use the Kindle in the Republic of Ireland, you will be able to shop in the Kindle Store from the Republic of Ireland as long as you continue to use a UK billing address, and your country settings in the Manage Your Kindle (this will appear in Your Account after the Kindle is released) page are set up to the UK. If you move country and no longer have a UK invoice address, you will need to switch your account to Amazon.com in order to shop in the Kindle Store. If you are travelling outside of the UK, you will be able to continue shopping in the Amazon.co.uk Kindle Store as long as you have a UK invoice address". Permalink to source


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭floggg


    For all those who have already bought/received a Kindle, do you know how much the import duty actually comes to?

    On the order page, it says a deposit of $40 (if i recall correctly). Will you actually be billed for all this amount, ,less or more?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭Packet


    floggg wrote: »
    For all those who have already bought/received a Kindle, do you know how much the import duty actually comes to?

    On the order page, it says a deposit of $40 (if i recall correctly). Will you actually be billed for all this amount, ,less or more?

    Kindle 3G $189.00
    Shipping & Handling $029.98
    Total before Tax $209.98
    US Tax $0
    Import fees deposit $044.10
    US$ Total $254.08

    That $44.10 is exactly 21% (Irish VAT rate) of $209.98.

    So I wouldn't hold out much hope of a refund.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭floggg


    Packet wrote: »
    Kindle 3G $189.00
    Shipping & Handling $029.98
    Total before Tax $209.98
    US Tax $0
    Import fees deposit $044.10
    US$ Total $254.08

    That $44.10 is exactly 21% (Irish VAT rate) of $209.98.

    So I wouldn't hold out much hope of a refund.

    Cool, thanks.

    I'd prefer to know in advance exactly how much I'd be paying before deciding whether to buy. I dislike uncertainty!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭Svetti Arss


    Are there any advantages/disavantages apart from the inital purchase price in buying from amazon.com or amazon.co.uk.

    Im thinking of book price, range of books, that type of thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭Packet


    Are there any advantages/disavantages apart from the inital purchase price in buying from amazon.com or amazon.co.uk.

    Im thinking of book price, range of books, that type of thing.

    The UK £149 price converted to Euros is €179. If you have a UK billing address and someone there you can ship it to, that is cheaper. The hardware is identical. The US price comes to about €198.

    Of the 630,000 books on the US Amazon site about 400,000 are available to Irish readers. The UK kindle store has 400,000 titles available to UK billing address people too but they aren't the same list of titles. The Economist magazine is only on the UK site. The prices seem similar although there are anomalies like free books having a cost and vice versa. People in continental Europe are screwed more on price, the web site detects where they are registered and charges them more. E.g. Millennium Trilogy is twice the cost in Germany.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,534 ✭✭✭Dman001


    I don't read, but I think the device and the technology is great. Definitely the future of books and reading. Was very surprised to see they are offering free 3G connectivity, very impressive and a big advantage over competitors like the iPad.

    They should look into offering school textbooks on their store and on the Kindle. It would be a very handy device for college.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Not being able to buy from the .co.uk site is incredibly irritating as I've a voucher for the .co.uk site (which you can't transfer to their .com address). Are they any actual good reasons for this?

    Also can you switch your stores whenever you like? Can you use it to shop around to find the best price for a title between the .com and .co.uk stores?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭mobius42


    The reason we can't buy from the UK store is due to rights restrictions imposed by the publishing companies. It's similar to how we can't buy TV shows from iTunes here. By restricting content in this way they can charge more in certain countries. The sooner these bull**** regional restrictions are gotten rid of, the better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭Packet


    ixoy wrote: »
    Also can you switch your stores whenever you like? Can you use it to shop around to find the best price for a title between the .com and .co.uk stores?

    The short answer appears to be no. Irish users are restricted to the .com Kindle store.

    To buy from the UK store you'd need to change your Kindle's home country from Ireland to UK and also have a UK billing address associated with your credit card. To buy from the .com you'd have to change it back again to being managed by the US store.

    Even if you were to go to these lengths, as the .co.uk Kindle store has only just opened it isn't clear yet that this awkward procedure will actually work.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    mobius42 wrote: »
    The reason we can't buy from the UK store is due to rights restrictions imposed by the publishing companies. It's similar to how we can't buy TV shows from iTunes here. By restricting content in this way they can charge more in certain countries. The sooner these bull**** regional restrictions are gotten rid of, the better.
    That barely makes sense though. For TV, for example, stations buy up the programs and sell off advertising spots based on that so I can see some sort of reasoning.
    Books however don't sell ad space in the same way. As it also stands, Ireland generally get books before the UK (I think by 2 days for the standard novel) so it's not even a case of when we get the books.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭Gavin


    Change your address to UK and you can buy from the .co.uk store. You don't need a credit card with a uk billing address.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,577 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Was very surprised to see they are offering free 3G connectivity, very impressive and a big advantage over competitors like the iPad.

    Thinking of getting the better half one of these for XMas and not savy on these guys so please excuse potential noob queries...
    From the quote above can I take it there is free web surfing from a 3G enabled Kindle (thinking of getting one from the states).
    Also, I have a rake of books in .pdf format already, can these just be loaded onto the K3 and away she goes??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭mobius42


    Yes, the web surfing is free. If you're going to be reading a lot of pdfs, you might want to look at getting the DX as it's much better for reading them. The regular Kindle will display them as well though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭The Sparrow


    You can convert the pdfs through a programme called Calibre and that is meant to improve the compatibility a lot. Although if you are looking to read pdf manuals etc then I would definitely look at the more expensive Kindle DX.

    There is free web surfing through 3G but also a wifi option for faster performance too. Plus there is a cheaper modle that just has wifi.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,577 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    thanks for the clarity, it's for herself so should suffice so, will get afriend from the US to bring back to avoid taxes, $ rate not bad at the minute


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭galwayguy85


    Tried this out earlier and seem to have been successful.. a bit long-winded but well worth persisting with.


    1. *Go Amazon.CO.UK as if you were going to buy anything but an ebook (you won't be let anyway... it will force you to go to amazon.COM instead to buy ebooks).
    2. *Sign in with your *normal* e-mail address. *(You will also need an alternative e-mail address and a new, alternative amazon account for this cunning ploy to work).
    3. *Buy a gift voucher for whatever value you desire. *See*https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/gc/order-email?ie=UTF8&ref_=gc_lp_eb2 and 'gift' that value to your OTHER e-mail address. Best do this for small values initially until comfortabe with the procedure.
    4. *Shut down your browser, empty cache, cookies etc to avoid any possible confusion.
    5. *Go to amazon.co.uk and create a new user account, using the alternative e-mail address as the login.
    6. *Next, login to your alternative email address (gmail, hotmail, whatever). *You will see that you have received a gift voucher from yourself.
    7. *Inside the e-mail, click on 'Apply to account'. *This will open amazon.co.uk in a new window. *Copy over the code contained in the e-mail to redeem the value of the voucher you sent to yourself.
    8. *Next, sign out of the account. Again, trash cookies etc and restart the browser. *
    9. *Now goto a proxy server website such as daveproxy.co.uk
    10. *From here goto amazon.co.uk
    11. *Order yourself the ebook you want at the UK price and pay for it from the voucher.
    12. *You'll be asked to provide a UK invoice address. *As you won't be posting/delivering anything physical from this account, just fill it up with anything you want. The address won't be varefied against the fictional postcode. At this time, it might be prudent to deregister your Kindle For Mac/PC application (the one reg'd under your normal account), it also woudn't be a bad idea to rename your orig 'My Kindle Content' in 'My Documents' folder to something else, so that you have a backup, just in case.
    13. Go through with that and elect to send the ebook to a particlar PC or Mac Kindle device.
    14. Open that PC or Mac application.
    15. Goto 'Sync and Check for new items'
    16. The book you just bought a few moments ago for the UK price should start to download.

    Phew!! I know that was very long, and doubtless that somebody will tell me that some of the steps could have been omitted, but the next time you want to buy some books cheaply at UK prices all you have to do is 'gift' yourself a voucher from one amazon account (your original one) to the other (the one that uses the makey-uppy UK address) for the purpose of just buying ebooks

    In future when you go to amazon and log in with your alternate account all you need do is log in and buy ebooks and then sync. You no longer need to use proxy servers etc.

    If you haven't already bought a Kindle, you can buy the Kindle from this alternate account and have it shipped to somewhere in Northern Ireland, such as a friend or relative who can then forward it onto you in the Republic. You could save about €25-30 using this method, plus you get the correct AC adapter for the Kindle. You should then register this Kindle's serial number with the alternate/ebook only amazon account.

    The above paragraph I HAVE NOT tried for myself. Please do so at your own risk!! { You can always unregister the Kindle from that account if things don't work out anyway, and move it to the original amazon account.}

    If you have already bought ebooks under your original amazon account and if you have a PC with the Kindle Reader app and purchased books loaded on it, you can follow the guide at http://nyquil.org/archives/1128-Converting-Kindle-Books-a-painful-process-that-works-for-reading-Kindle-books-without-a-Kindle.html to learn how to strip the books of DRM (copy-protection) and then manually bring them (MOBI fikes) back into the Kindle reader app reg'd to the new alternate account or drag and drop them manully onto the Kindle via USB.


    I hope that wasn't too confusing!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭mobius42


    I don't think you need to do this. I've used my Irish credit card to buy books from the Amazon UK store with no problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭galwayguy85


    Yeah. Point taken. I can easily buy DVDs, printed books etc from the UK amazon store using my Irish credit card and have them shipped to my Irish address no problem. However, due to licencing laws or whatever other rules there might be you simply cannot do this with kindle ebooks and reader devices, hence my somewhat longwinded solution above. These steps need only be done once. The saving you'll make on UK priced kindle ebooks is well worth it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭mobius42


    Sorry, I meant the UK kindle store. You can buy ebooks from the UK Kindle store with an Irish credit card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭galwayguy85


    Yes, I suppose you can technically. However for the overwhelming majority of Irish based customers with accounts with amazon.co.uk that try to avail of the cheaper ebooks there, they will be met with this screen. I hope that this clears up any confusions and explains the raison d'etre of what I'm talking about.Screen%20shot%202010-09-27%20at%2022.35.16.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭galwayguy85


    Perhaps there is a way of only ever having one amazon account and being able to freely buy UK priced ebooks by changing your address back and forth between your real irish invoice/delivery address (for printed books, DVDs and so on) and a real/made-up UK invoice address. I haven't tested it and in any case it sounds like a lot of bother.

    Having two amazon accounts, one for the delivery of real, physical objects and another for the online delivery of cheaply priced ebook sounds like a better solution. Neither ever have to acknowledge the existence of the other.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    I'm considering one of these gadgets. I have a raft of ebooks sitting around, can I transfer them onto a Kindle easily? Is it USB based? Or can I only read bukes I buy on Amazon?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭The Sparrow


    bedlam wrote: »
    You can add your own, over USB, as long as they are in the correct format. If needs be you can use Calibre to convert your files to a supported format.

    Or you can email a book or newspaper directcly to the kindle using Calibre and that is free using wifi. Amazon charge a small data fee if you do it by 3G.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭Stuxnet


    hey,
    i downloaded Kindle for pc app, and wanted to buy a couple of books on calculus for college, but it wont let me, sends me to US store, which looks for an american address,

    am i goosed ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭CodeMonkey


    Perhaps there is a way of only ever having one amazon account and being able to freely buy UK priced ebooks by changing your address back and forth between your real irish invoice/delivery address (for printed books, DVDs and so on) and a real/made-up UK invoice address. I haven't tested it and in any case it sounds like a lot of bother.

    Having two amazon accounts, one for the delivery of real, physical objects and another for the online delivery of cheaply priced ebook sounds like a better solution. Neither ever have to acknowledge the existence of the other.
    Jesus, all that is unnecessary and very confusing for people.

    Your amazon account is shared between amazon.com and amazon.co.uk. You can login to both with the same login details. So buy a kindle from amazon.com with your amazon account and have it delivered to Ireland. Then login to amazon.com and change the country associated with the kindle to a uk address.

    Now just login to amazon.co.uk with the same account and you can buy ebooks from the uk kindle store. You can switch country back and forth if you want to buy ebooks from the US store.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭CodeMonkey


    attachment.php?attachmentid=130417&stc=1&d=1286641871

    Change country option in the screenshot and free classic books are kinda awesome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭galwayguy85


    @CodMonkey, how clever you are. Absolutely, both methods are equally as valid though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭galwayguy85


    Should also point out that if you have just the one amazon account and goto change countries for the purpose of getting cheaper prices, it will as far as i know, break your newspaper and magazine subscriptions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭CodeMonkey


    If that's true then cancel the monthly subscription at the end of the end and resubscribe on the other site.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 outpt


    Hello everyone.
    As i was making a personal enquiry about all legal issues associated with Kindle (inteding to buy one, wi-fi only as i have plenty of books on PC)

    Heres what ive got from amazon as of today, 27/10/2010:

    1. Is a US/UK address required to buy Kindle books ? (assuming im outside, in Ireland atm)

    I'm happy to inform you that you do not require a US/UK address specifically to buy a Kindle book. All you need is a proper Wi-Fi connection and a registered Kindle account and you're good to go.


    2. Can i use Wi-Fi in Ireland to get onto US version of kindle store to buy books ? Is this connection free of charge or is it free only in US/UK ?

    We'll display your home country or region at the top of the Kindle Store on Amazon.com so you know you are browsing content and prices specific to your country or region. When shopping on your Kindle, it automatically picks up the home country or region from your account information and displays only content eligible for purchase and delivery in your home country.

    If you simply wish to browse titles in the Kindle Store on Amazon.com to see the selection available by country or region, log out of your Amazon.com account by clicking the "(Not Your Name)" link at the top of the page.

    You can update your home country or region on the Manage Your Kindle Page (http://www.amazon.com/manageyourkindle). Scroll down to the "Your country" section and select the "Edit" option.

    Also, there is no fee for receiving books or single issues of periodicals wirelessly. Browsing the Kindle Store and using Kindle's web browser are also free.

    Athough, fees do apply if you receive regularly scheduled issues of your newspaper, magazine, and blog subscriptions wirelessly if you're a U.S. customer traveling outside the United States.
    (SO OK FOR BOOKS it seems)3. Can the Wi-Fi signal be used to buy books directly from US Kindle store in continental Europe ?

    As mentioned above, yes, it is possible and totally free of charge.



    Isnt that good now ?
    Im ordering mine shortly.


    Hope the above helps to others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    Hey, am also thinking of buing a 3rd gen kindle - but cant decide on wifi only or 3G.
    Can anyone answer this:
    If I buy a UK kindle with 3g internet - can I continue to use the internet for free here in Ireland (I reckon I will keep a separate UK 'kindle' account for this).

    From the above it looks like downloading of books etc are free in any country, but subs for papers and magazines will incur an extra charge, however -

    If the internet is free over 3g in any country, then the mobile versions of some newpapers will be available, cutting the need for subs.. Has anyone tried this? How is the browser? or is this too slow to be of any use on the train/luas etc?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 outpt


    as stated in my post and received from amazon

    Also, there is no fee for receiving books or single issues of periodicals wirelessly. Browsing the Kindle Store and using Kindle's web browser are also free

    HOWEVER

    (unless u buy kindle from co.uk shipped to UK adress and then someone will send it to you from UK) you will be forwarded to .com which means that outside UK people can only buy the US-International version of Kindle.

    The only limitations to it are the ones given by publishers.
    Once youll want to browse the Kindle store it will automatically pick up the signal origin (no matter 3G or wi-fi) and it will point you the titles available for you. Say you browse from here, kindle store will show up all the titles available to you from either UK or US (meaning uk store has different ebook choices depending on countries theyre being sold to). Here (again) comes the publishers limitation as some may simply not want to sell some books (say) outside US, or UK, in which case, for some books you would need to have UK or US address. As long as amazon wont break another deal with publishers, this wont change.
    In short, youre buying Kindle, it picks up your location and you buy books. I think its kind of hard to say which you can or cant buy at this stage, but im sure there are many other ebook stores throughout europe allowing you to buy stuff independently from amazon - after all you can use calibre to transfer ebook formats in between so kindle can open them, so buying books for kindle should not be that much of an issue. theres probably twice as much to download from various torrent websites anyway.

    As for the newspapers, i think some publishers require monthly/yearly subscription, thus amazon will charge you for them (if they have signed a deal), if there are free ones there should be no reason to pay for them no matter what device u use to browse web.

    As for the browser, keep in mind eInk limitations - its only grayscale, and its not good for websites full of flash/java objects. it wont (i think) display any animation and it will probably strip down website to quite primitive look. as much as LCD is bad for constant readin eInk is really build for ebooks, not real internet browsing. That being said, u can browse websites and assuming youll read plain text - you can do it, it just would not be as nice as, say, palmtop or ipad.

    see here as well: http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200375890
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=200387080

    They say the browse is an experimental function - as much as it may be usefull to read plain text website i dont think it'll progress in this direction in future versions. eInk is for reading. websites are more and more for watching...

    for final confirmation (if you want) - ask amazon - they respond within hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    Thanks Outpt - I thanks fo rthat I was trying to establish if the kindle is tied to the country based on settings/store it was bought from or the IP address geolocation of the place that you connect from.

    I fancied having a kindle and having newspaper subs auto delivered. As I am originally from the UK, there are a number of papers I would like, which are not available outside of the UK - if the webbrowsing was free and able to visit the mobile version (i.e. mainly text) version of newspapers websites then not so bad as I can read news from them..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 outpt


    if they would tie the device to the country only they woudl end up with no sales. after all, mobility is todays big thing and im sure they're aware of people being on the go.

    i think its the publishers to blam, not the amazon - after all amazon is only their client and once they put a price tag, thats it. the only way to us, readers, is to find alternatives. saying that, its less hassle for book but newspapers are diferent story.

    i say just confirm the details with amazon - i would send a mail and ask especially if you have any specific papers u read, after that youll be double sure.

    ive read the web browser is clumsy and not nice, also slow. its sort of google maps being "beta" all the time, and just because they tagged it as "experimental" they wont take the beating for it as "experiment" is their defense line, whereas in reality its just either badly implemented - or simply its the limitations of ereaders (eInk) atm.

    ive heard one of readers on the market changes the flash from black to white when "turning" pages - but i haven't seen it yet. and im sure they'll want to sell all whats produced till now before they'll introduce a revolution. its like blu ray players - technology waited for a couple of years before they've sold enough DVD players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭The Sparrow


    km991148 wrote: »
    Hey, am also thinking of buing a 3rd gen kindle - but cant decide on wifi only or 3G.
    Can anyone answer this:
    If I buy a UK kindle with 3g internet - can I continue to use the internet for free here in Ireland (I reckon I will keep a separate UK 'kindle' account for this).

    From the above it looks like downloading of books etc are free in any country, but subs for papers and magazines will incur an extra charge, however -

    If the internet is free over 3g in any country, then the mobile versions of some newpapers will be available, cutting the need for subs.. Has anyone tried this? How is the browser? or is this too slow to be of any use on the train/luas etc?

    3G in Ireland is grand. A little slow but that is to be expected. The browser is not so great so I wouldn't be planning on using it too much.

    However, the good news for you is that you don't need to rely on the web browser or expensive Amazon subs to read newspapers. You can download a programme called Calibre that does all of that for you. Calibre has a large list of newspapers and magazines from the UK and around the world (Guardian, Telegraph, Independent, WS Journal, Irish Times, NY Times etc). You decide which ones you like and schedule them up to download every day.

    I use a programme called Wake Up From Standby to turn my computer on at 7am every morning and open Calibre. I then have Calibre set up to download some newspapers at the same time and then Wake Up From Standby puts the computer back to sleep. The newspapers are perfectly formatted for reading on the Kindle and if you connect your Kindle by USB when you get up, Calibre will send them automatically to your Kindle.

    But the really cool bit is that you can set up Calibre to automatically email the files to your Kindle. If you are on 3G there is a charge for this, but on Wifi it is free. So every morning I turn my Kindle on, connect to the wifi and a couple of seconds later, I have my newspapers ready to be read.

    It really is one of the best features of the Kindle. You should download Calibre and have a look at their newspaper selection and download a few of the newspapers and check them out in the built in Calibre ebook browser to see what you think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 aprillo


    Hi,
    Can anyone tell me how long it took to ship please?
    Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭juke


    I had a replacement one within 48 hours from the US


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭Zab


    3G in Ireland is grand. A little slow but that is to be expected. The browser is not so great so I wouldn't be planning on using it too much.

    However, the good news for you is that you don't need to rely on the web browser or expensive Amazon subs to read newspapers. You can download a programme called Calibre that does all of that for you. Calibre has a large list of newspapers and magazines from the UK and around the world (Guardian, Telegraph, Independent, WS Journal, Irish Times, NY Times etc). You decide which ones you like and schedule them up to download every day.

    I use a programme called Wake Up From Standby to turn my computer on at 7am every morning and open Calibre. I then have Calibre set up to download some newspapers at the same time and then Wake Up From Standby puts the computer back to sleep. The newspapers are perfectly formatted for reading on the Kindle and if you connect your Kindle by USB when you get up, Calibre will send them automatically to your Kindle.

    But the really cool bit is that you can set up Calibre to automatically email the files to your Kindle. If you are on 3G there is a charge for this, but on Wifi it is free. So every morning I turn my Kindle on, connect to the wifi and a couple of seconds later, I have my newspapers ready to be read.

    It really is one of the best features of the Kindle. You should download Calibre and have a look at their newspaper selection and download a few of the newspapers and check them out in the built in Calibre ebook browser to see what you think.

    This is great, I didn't know that calibre had this. I don't actually have wifi so I have to pay for the email service and calibre seems to be making it tricky to auto-sync the news to a USB connected kindle after downloading.

    However, I also noticed that calibre has a web server. I stuck this on the internet and it allowed me download the MOBI on the kindle via the browser. After that it's on the home page same as always. This is currently free and amazon haven't said when or if that's going to change. It took a couple of minutes, but could be a good backup if you can't sync via wifi/usb.

    I don't know which web server calibre is using yet or if I trust it on the internet, although the calibre site does say it's for internet use. It also doesn't appear to have an option for SSL. The kindle only seems to be able to connect to webservers on ports 80 or 443, so keep that in mind (this is from testing, not documentation).

    Can somebody tell me, on the wifi kindle is there any way to access the storage on your kindle over wifi? I'm guessing that they don't support this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Captain Commie


    Zab wrote: »
    Can somebody tell me, on the wifi kindle is there any way to access the storage on your kindle over wifi? I'm guess that they don't support this.

    I very highly doubt that this can happen, would be sweet if could.

    Im getting a kindle soon and love what ive just read about calibre, will be handy for getting some papers so can read them while getting ready in the morning.


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