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Would you eat meat if you had to kill it?

  • 30-07-2010 1:48am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭


    Looking over a number of threads I was just wondering, how many of you would eat meat if you had to kill it first?

    Personally I would defiantly be prepared to kill a cow, lamb, pig or chicken or any other animal that I eat. I eat meat and so don’t have any moral objection to a animal dieing for me to do so. I’m not saying I would enjoy killing anything but I see it as a natural thing.

    I have friends who I have spoken to about this and despite the fact they eat meat they seemed discussed that I could kill something. They said they couldn’t bring themselves to do it. While I understand their reluctance I don’t understand how they can have a moral objection to killing an animal but not to eating its meat?

    Currently I have only ever killed fish that I have caught to eat but I 100% believe that I would be able to kill any other animal that I currently eat.

    Would you eat meat if you had to kill it? 143 votes

    I wouldn’t kill any animal and don’t eat meat.
    0%
    I wouldn’t kill any animal and do eat meat.
    4%
    Tar.Aldarionpq0n1ct4ve8zf5ElaElaElanoMiss LockhartAbsurdumsensibleken 6 votes
    I would kill fish to eat but nothing else.
    11%
    joolsveerjam_mac_jamSparkoKieraPosyE.T.SulmacSRFC90RayM3hn2givr7mx1scstrandroadClawdeeusalex73SquirrelFace4g92mitJazzPotato 16 votes
    I would kill some animals that I eat but not all.
    2%
    [Deleted User][Deleted User]storm2811Millicent 4 votes
    I would kill any animal that I would eat.
    13%
    Rabies[Deleted User]GrumPyDave!galwayrushDavidiusminidazzlerMegatron_XBigginszigCoriolanusGiftofGabrubensniVinnyTGMWashington IrvingToesCat MelodeonyungwanCypher_sounds 19 votes
    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    68%
    Dr_TeethRasTaastrofool--Kaiser--DocDas KittyBeruthielomahaidyawnstretchChips LovellBig EarsDiddy KongCiaran500R0otTerryDravokivichMickerooorourkedaBrokenArrowsWibbs 98 votes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,727 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    Yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    I'd hate to think that every time I were to eat pussy, that I would have to kill a cat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    I don't see why not.

    Don't mean to be bad, but cows and pigs and chickens aren't exactly the cutest of animals and I don't see them really serving a purpose (unless we end up living in a Mad Max Thunderdome world) besides being food for us.
    We breed them to eat them, so I wouldn't really have a problem killing them.
    I'd try to be as humane as possible though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    I think you'd be a bit hypocritical not to.

    Now it wouldn't be a nice experience. I live on a farm and I have reared lambs by hand that then went to the factory and it's never nice being there with the smell and the bones in skips outside. But if you eat meat it is part of the process.

    I do think however that there is a responsability to ensure that it is quick and painless and that the animals have a comfortable and nurtured life beforehand.

    That is why I have no time for battery farms


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Yes. Indeed, one of my ambitions is to source and supply all the meat I consume through ethical hunting and fishing. There is nothing to compare with wild rabbit, pheasant or venison, sea trout or salmon, so supplying my own would ensure I never feel bored and always eat the finest food there is.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.

    That is why I have no time for battery farms

    If it weren't for battery farms, then we wouldn't have the Duracell bunny.

    Not sure if that's a good or a bad thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭storm2811


    I would kill some animals that I eat but not all.
    I don't know if I'd be able to kill anything other than fish and even then I can't prepare it for cooking so..
    Life or death though,I'd kill fcuking anything to eat,has to be done.
    I have eaten food hunted and killed by other people though,just couldn't do it myself unless it was absolutely necessary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 eyes_alive


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    I'd prob get more pleasure having to hunt for some hamburgers... Prob taste better too :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    If it weren't for battery farms, then we wouldn't have the Duracell bunny.

    Not sure if that's a good or a bad thing.

    I'd eat that little bastard alive, he annoys me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭flas


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    yes i would and i would even go as far as to say it would taste even better if you hunted and killed the animal yourself,much like any fish i have eaten that i have caught tasted way better than any fish i ever bought!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭Nebit


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    if the situation was if i had to, then yes and i see little wrong with it.
    However if its just out of the blue, meh, why bother when i can grab meat from the nearest supermarket.

    Edit: This said i often go out crabbing and have a tasty meal afterwards


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    Animals that I've killed to eat have been chickens, a wild boar & some lobsters.

    I've also killed a cat, a rat & a hedgehog, but that's only coz I couldn't avoid them when I was driving. The hedgehog was the only one that didn't die instantly & I had nothing in the car to kill it with properly to put it out of it's misery.

    So I ran over it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭laugh


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    All the smartest stuff eats meat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Animals that I've killed to eat have been chickens, a wild boar & some lobsters.

    Planning a possible trip to either France or Germany to hunt wild boar in about a year and a half. Where did you encounter yours?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 386 ✭✭seensensee


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    I'll only eat the meat I would hunt and kill but killing's of the agenda around here, ergo no meat.
    Luckily there is a good supply of vegetables, cereals, beans and pulses, vitamins and minerals available so meat free is easy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    Planning a possible trip to either France or Germany to hunt wild boar in about a year and a half. Where did you encounter yours?

    In Asturias in the north coast of Spain. Tasty bugger he was too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    In Asturias in the north coast of Spain. Tasty bugger he was too!

    Working on a recipe over the next few months for a spicy tomato venison and wild boar pork belly stew to keep the winter at bay. Hoping to find a few friends taking a trip east for some shooting to scab meat off. Should be a good one for the job. Will be travelling myself, probably around the new year of 2012 to do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 350 ✭✭rubensni


    I would kill any animal that I would eat.
    For me, it's not so much the prospect of killing it but the cleaning out that would be the big no-no. If somebody gave me a gun and told me to go out and shoot a cow in the head I could do it no problem any day, however the prospect of slicing up the cow and dealing with the smell, sh*t, bile, stomach, lungs, etc is enough make me vomit repetitively. I'm handy enough gutting and filleting a fish, and I'm sure I'd have no problem with a chicken or turkey, but that's where I'd draw the line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    rubensni wrote: »
    For me, it's not so much the prospect of killing it but the cleaning out that would be the big no-no. If somebody gave me a gun and told me to go out and shoot a cow in the head I could do it no problem any day, however the prospect of slicing up the cow and dealing with the smell, sh*t, bile, stomach, lungs, etc is enough make me vomit repetitively. I'm handy enough gutting and filleting a fish, and I'm sure I'd have no problem with a chicken or turkey, but that's where I'd draw the line.

    It's unpleasant work, but it's a necessity. Never met anyone who enjoyed being elbow deep in a deer. Met a lot of people who loved venison steaks though, so somebody's got to do it! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Brainset


    Right on, write on about whatever you feel best.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    rubensni wrote: »
    For me, it's not so much the prospect of killing it but the cleaning out that would be the big no-no. If somebody gave me a gun and told me to go out and shoot a cow in the head I could do it no problem any day, however the prospect of slicing up the cow and dealing with the smell, sh*t, bile, stomach, lungs, etc is enough make me vomit repetitively. I'm handy enough gutting and filleting a fish, and I'm sure I'd have no problem with a chicken or turkey, but that's where I'd draw the line.

    Just sing 'The Circle of Life' and you'll be fine ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭NoHornJan


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    Yeh. But I hate plucking pheasants...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    I wouldn’t kill any animal and do eat meat.
    NoHornJan wrote: »
    Yeh. But I hate plucking pheasants...

    they plucking hate you too pal!

    sorry, somone had to do it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    I would kill any animal that I would eat.
    If I had the stomach to kill it, I would have the stomach to eat it. Simples.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    I plan to..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭Lando Griffin


    Simple answer yes.
    The list of animals I would kill to eat are.
    Turkeys
    Chickens
    Cows
    Sheep
    Rabbits
    Goats
    Horsies
    Pigs.
    Fish.
    If I was absolutely starving then I would have to include the following
    Dog
    Cat
    Pidgeon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    Pheasant, duck, pigeon, wabbit. Ive killed and eaten. And have no prob doing it either. Roast pheasant is smashing.

    I don't eat fish but enjoy fishing more than shooting. My girlfriends house are big fish eaters so I'll gradually fill the deep freeze with fish over the summer and that should last the winter until the fishing picks up again next spring. The fish that I catch are sustainably caught with the small ones put back alive instead of the dead like the trawlers do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    I'd love to hunt deer, does anyone know where I can go to do this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    NoHornJan wrote: »
    Yeh. But I hate plucking pheasants...


    cleerly you havent seen the wing trick :)

    you tube it as its a bit rash to look at....


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭mickoneill30


    Doc wrote: »
    I have friends who I have spoken to about this and despite the fact they eat meat they seemed discussed that I could kill something. They said they couldn’t bring themselves to do it. While I understand their reluctance I don’t understand how they can have a moral objection to killing an animal but not to eating its meat?

    I probably couldn't kill something now. Not because I'm disgusted but because of my upbringing (as in grew up in the suburbs). I'm sure if there was no other option I'd eventually learn. But while there's local butchers I won't be doing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭Gary4279


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    I'd hate to think that every time I were to eat pussy, that I would have to kill a cat.

    Wow, thanks whoring ain't going too well for you lately.

    Back on topic, if its tasty i'll happily kill and eat anything!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭monkeypants


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    I have worked in meat and poultry factories, so I've killed thousands of animals. Didn't eat all of them though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭NoHornJan


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    cleerly you havent seen the wing trick :)

    you tube it as its a bit rash to look at....

    Couldtn't find that wing trick.

    It wasn't the plucking so much as the smell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    I have worked in meat and poultry factories, so I've killed thousands of animals. Didn't eat all of them though.

    therefore job vs hunt

    worked in an abbatoir myself as a kid (although not in killing or disemboweling) but in this time of my life I try to let all the fish I catch go (don't bait fish anymore - spin) and if I have the opportunity to shoot in Ireland I tend only to either shoot that I am going to eat or make sure it is pest control [fox] where eating the targetted result is a no no

    unless someone here can post a recipe for fox sausage LOL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭NoHornJan


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    Is it true that the fox is the only indigenous animal that is inedible?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    where do carnivores think their meat comes from


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭alex73


    I would kill fish to eat but nothing else.
    Expert here, I have had to skin a deer and prepare its meat to be eaten... And for sure it was the worst experience of my life (and I am not a butcher) .. Never again and I will never eat venison again. Worst part was finding parasites under the skin,, worms,... I am having nightmares thinking about the whole thing. It was when I was part of a religious sect and they basically starved us, so we had no option but to skin the deers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    orourkeda wrote: »
    where do carnivores think their meat comes from

    The supermarket?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    I'd actually have more problem eating and killing cattle than a wild turkey. Game is Natural, and it's in my own instinct to hunt such things. But a grazing animal that just stands there to die, is kinda lame. But if the question is Would I if I had no other choice, then Yes I would. Im not sure I could stomach modern 'agriculture' processes though. I'd feel much more comfortable with the much more traditional Frontier method.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    I would kill any animal that I would eat.
    If I was told that I couldn't eat another steak until I'd gone to the factory and shot the cow, I think I'd do it.
    It'd be something I'd avoid at all possibilities though. Can't be very pleasant to do all day every day.


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 114 ✭✭UglyFuc


    i personally dont feel well fed unless 2 or more animals have been killed in the making of my dinner


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,501 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    i would and have hunted and killed animals that i have eaten.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    I wouldn’t kill any animal and do eat meat.
    To survive I would kill and eat you. You are lucky tesco is 24 hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭VinnyTGM


    I would kill any animal that I would eat.
    If I had to kill animals to survive I'm sure I would.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    I would kill fish to eat but nothing else.
    Nope, I'd cry.:o

    Got really sad today when I saw a hawk attacking a blackbird, and I hate blackbirds!:P


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 27,758 Mod ✭✭✭✭Posy


    I would kill fish to eat but nothing else.
    I couldn't either. I'd rather starve than kill something to eat it. I just couldn't kill anything, no matter what the reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    I have killed plenty of turkeys over the years. Didn't get to eat them, but they were killed so that others could eat them. It's a handy way for a teenager to make money during the Christmas holidays.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion




  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,532 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    I have no opinion but like pressing buttons and seeing poll results.
    I would kill to survive, no need otherwise when i can just buy meat in the shop.

    Would have no qualms about killing animals that are harming the place either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 JazzPotato


    I would kill fish to eat but nothing else.
    Hypocrit right here.
    I adore meat, but faced with the option of eating some grass or killing an animal to eat meat. Grass every time.
    I'd share my grass with the animal...


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