Young scobes,able bodied using free travel passes on city buses?

bigpink

I see this alot on the Dooradoyle bus,scrotes getting onto the bus using free travel passes and i mean fit,able bodied young guys
I know this because there is a rented house in a my road which is a rent allowance house and there is a rough young crowd living there(thats another story) but anyway going into town today who gets on the bus after 2 lads from that house and bang both have frree travel passes WTF

talkingclock

AFAIK you get those passes cheap-ish in DUB.

Limerick_Lass

Where is the clamp down on this :mad: Isn't there inspectors?!

Simon Adebisi

Im living in Raheen 10+ yrs now and ive never seen an inspector on the bus into town.

krudler

Limerick_Lass wrote: »

Where is the clamp down on this :mad: Isn't there inspectors?!

back in the 1950's, where a bus inspector was still actually a job.

LucyLouLou

I've seen loads of these guys with these passes, Don't think the inspectors care to be honest, I was on the bus home to Dooradoyle a few weeks ago after dropping my daughter to school so it was about 9am and two guys got on.One shows his pass and then proceeds to tell the bus driver that he is retarded and the other guy was his helper, driver just said ok and they sat down, two of them were pissed as farts as well. Inspector got on at the next stop and the two guys tell him the same story and he just rolls his eyes and left them alone. I suppose he didn't need the hassle of trying so kick two drunk scobes off the bus.

bullets

I've seen the Bus inspector lots of times on the Raheen bus.
Comes on and if you have your ticket fine, and if you dont
then thats OK too as he tells you ya should have it. Same Lad
has been around for years. Very pleasent chap but heck
his job makes no sense and serves no purpose.

See quite a lot of people use this "Bus Pass" that looks like there is absoultly nothing at all wrong with them apart from being lazy sods.

On the 304A from about the Crescent shopping centre onwards towards the City center I've never seen anyone pay. Lots of people get on with a pass of some shape or form, I've often wondered just what or why they have the free pass.

There is a couple that get on for free quite a lot of times
I've been on the bus. A girl that looks like something wrong with her along side a fella/slash boyfriend that
is always with her, they seem to get free travel everywhere, as I've been on the Bus to Cork, Dublin, Galway
a few times and have seen them get on the bus and always flash this magical card, Getting on and off any bus
they liked.

(with all that said, If I had my way there would be free public transport for all and have the cost taken as a percentage of taxes)

~B

Berty

I know somebody who is so lazy, scamming any welfare she can, that she uses a carers pass for the bus of a WOMAN WHO IS NOW DEAD!

kilburn

Berty wrote: »

I know somebody who is so lazy, scamming any welfare she can, that she uses a carers pass for the bus of a WOMAN WHO IS NOW DEAD!

jesus thats desperate, no conscience

VanV

Berty wrote: »

I know somebody who is so lazy, scamming any welfare she can, that she uses a carers pass for the bus of a WOMAN WHO IS NOW DEAD!

Why don't you report her then? A person like that I'd have her shopped in 10 seconds. People like that are costing you and me money and it's no wonder the country is the way it is. Report her!

TestTransmission

Sorry to disagree with you all here,but disabilities take more forms than just the physical.

I know one or two people who have passes who look "able bodied".
Also AFAIK some passes entitle the bearer +1 to free travel.
Blame the system,not the players.

srfc19

VanV wrote: »

Why don't you report her then? A person like that I'd have her shopped in 10 seconds. People like that are costing you and me money and it's no wonder the country is the way it is. Report her!

how is that costing us money? how did that shape the countries current economic condition?

Amazotheamazing

Berty wrote: »

I know somebody who is so lazy, scamming any welfare she can, that she uses a carers pass for the bus of a WOMAN WHO IS NOW DEAD!

Dude, report her, she's taking money from your taxes.

Insect Overlord

srfc19 wrote: »

how is that costing us money? how did that shape the countries current economic condition?

I don't think anyone has suggested that skobes riding the bus for for free caused the recession

However, people abusing free travel passes costs money if the Government has to supplement Bus Éireann for every free ride taken by chancers in Limerick. I doubt it's a major drain on tax resources, but it probably adds up to several thousand euro a year if these people are dodging fares often.

srfc19

Insect Overlord wrote: »

I don't think anyone has suggested that skobes riding the bus for for free caused the recession

However, people abusing free travel passes costs money if the Government has to supplement Bus Éireann for every free ride taken by chancers in Limerick. I doubt it's a major drain on tax resources, but it probably adds up to several thousand euro a year if these people are dodging fares often.

But reporting someone for getting a few free rides on a bus just seems so lousy.

At the end of the day, it's not going to benefit the person who does the reporting. You will never see any return from it and it's not like you will get rewarded with free public transport yourself.

Insect Overlord

srfc19 wrote: »

But reporting someone for getting a few free rides on a bus just seems so lousy.

At the end of the day, it's not going to benefit the person who does the reporting. You will never see any return from it and it's not like you will get rewarded with free public transport yourself.

I know what you mean. It all seems a bit selfish. "I have to pay so everyone else should too", that kind of thing.

It's understandable though. If someone who's fully fit and healthy gets on for free when everyone else has to cough up cash, it's not fair on the people who do pay.

I think people are extra upset here because it cheapens the value of passes for people who really need them.

Amazotheamazing

srfc19 wrote: »

But reporting someone for getting a few free rides on a bus just seems so lousy.

At the end of the day, it's not going to benefit the person who does the reporting. You will never see any return from it and it's not like you will get rewarded with free public transport yourself.

It's not so much the free bus pass as the fact she uses every scam going seemingly. Bending a few rules is fine-ish, but taking the piss deserves to be reported.

Captain Average

bigpink wrote: »

I see this alot on the Dooradoyle bus,scrotes getting onto the bus using free travel passes and i mean fit,able bodied young guys
I know this because there is a rented house in a my road which is a rent allowance house and there is a rough young crowd living there(thats another story) but anyway going into town today who gets on the bus after 2 lads from that house and bang both have frree travel passes WTF

There's a family of them that get onto the bus across from the newer council office almost every time I'm on the bus. Awful family with three horrificly behaved children, who all smell, and guess what ... free travel pass and nothing (physically) wrong with either parent. Drives me mental:mad:

LucyLouLou

Captain Average wrote: »

There's a family of them that get onto the bus across from the newer council office almost every time I'm on the bus. Awful family with three horrificly behaved children, who all smell, and guess what ... free travel pass and nothing (physically) wrong with either parent. Drives me mental:mad:

I know exactly who you're talking about, the children are the dirtiest kids I've ever seen, I'd love to give them a good scrub with a wire brush.

Captain Average

LucyLouLou wrote: »

I know exactly who you're talking about, the children are the dirtiest kids I've ever seen, I'd love to give them a good scrub with a wire brush.

Everybody on the bus has the same reaction when they get on. Those poor kids stand no chance of a bright future.


(ooh, 100 posts, yay me!)

panda100

TestTransmission wrote: »

Sorry to disagree with you all here,but disabilities take more forms than just the physical.

I know one or two people who have passes who look "able bodied".
Also AFAIK some passes entitle the bearer +1 to free travel.
Blame the system,not the players.

+1.
I work with many young people in Limerick who are able-bodied yet have Acquired Brian Injurys, all whom should be fully entitled to the free bus pass.

Just because you cannot see a physical disability doesn't mean they don't have unseen disabilitys that prevent them from driving/cycling etc.

pappyodaniel

panda100 wrote: »

+1.
I work with many young people in Limerick who are able-bodied yet have Acquired Brian Injurys, all whom should be fully entitled to the free bus pass.

Is this what a Brian Injury looks like?

yoyo

TestTransmission wrote: »

Sorry to disagree with you all here,but disabilities take more forms than just the physical.

I know one or two people who have passes who look "able bodied".
Also AFAIK some passes entitle the bearer +1 to free travel.
Blame the system,not the players.

+1, I have a pass that social welfare actually suggested I got for when I was diagnosed with aspergers syndrome and went on disability, I'm sure some people do unfortuneatly abuse the free pass scheme but just because someone doesnt look physically like they are disabled doesnt mean they are not

Nick

Limerick_Lass

I think most people posting here are just upset about certain people that are obviously abusing the system. No one can complain about people who deserve to have these passes for whatever disability it may be. Its along the same lines of social welfare fraud.

bigpink

Captain Average wrote: »

There's a family of them that get onto the bus across from the newer council office almost every time I'm on the bus. Awful family with three horrificly behaved children, who all smell, and guess what ... free travel pass and nothing (physically) wrong with either parent. Drives me mental:mad:

Do they live in Dooradoyle??

stupidusername

People here don't seem to be getting that just because you don't know what the persons reason is for having a bus pass doesn't mean they don't have one, and a valid one at that.

It is not just for people with physical disabilities. And it is not your place to try figure out if someone should have one or not. If you know of someone that is using one when they shouldn't report them. Otherwise, mind your own business, and stop begrudging people for having things that you don't.

I asked in another forum about how to switch doctors when on a medical card, and I got told basically I shouldn't be allowed to switch doctors because I'm getting it for free :rolleyes: I mean FFS, what's wrong with people!

zing zong

bigpink wrote: »

I see this alot on the Dooradoyle bus,scrotes getting onto the bus using free travel passes and i mean fit,able bodied young guys
I know this because there is a rented house in a my road which is a rent allowance house and there is a rough young crowd living there(thats another story) but anyway going into town today who gets on the bus after 2 lads from that house and bang both have frree travel passes WTF

While I agree that the travel pass scam isn't on, I don't appreciate how you equate rent allowance to scum bags.

(granted you didn't explicitly say it, but the fact that you thought to mention that it was a "rent allowence house" at all, is a clear indication that to you rent allowance and scum bags go hand in hand)

there is a recession on, a lot of people are now on rent allowance, especially in Limerick, and while the lads you talk about could very well be scumbags, please don't try to link rent allowance to being a scumbag, it's childish

zing zong

Limerick_Lass wrote: »

Where is the clamp down on this :mad: Isn't there inspectors?!

The actual driver is meant to take in what the card actually states as a disability, which most don't bother to do, most drivers just wave them on.

but people should remember that things like depression is considered a disability and therefore (rightly or wrongly) they get a card, a guy I know of has one, yet he looks the picture of health

stupidusername

zing zong wrote: »

The actual driver is meant to take in what the card actually states as a disability, which most don't bother to do, most drivers just wave them on.

but people should remember that things like depression is considered a disability and therefore (rightly or wrongly) they get a card, a guy I know of has one, yet he looks the picture of health

Wow. fúckin hell.

People with depression don't go round lookin miserable all their lives, and don't get taken off their medication if they get caught crackin a smile, ya know? Jesus I can't believe there are people this ignorant. AND people with depression don't get travel passes. Although it should be considered a type of disability in some cases.

I'm also fairly sure it doesn't state on the pass itself what reason the person has for having the pass.

zing zong

stupidusername wrote: »

Wow. fúckin hell.

People with depression don't go round lookin miserable all their lives, and don't get taken off their medication if they get caught crackin a smile, ya know? Jesus I can't believe there are people this ignorant. AND people with depression don't get travel passes. Although it should be considered a type of disability in some cases.

I'm also fairly sure it doesn't state on the pass itself what reason the person has for having the pass.

you have completely misinterpreted what i said. people seem to think that to have a pass, you must look physically disabled, and im pointing out that isn't the case, hence he has a pass due to depression YET he looks the picture of health

and while the cards to go very specific regarding the disability, they are colour coded, different colours for the different groups of disabilities that the pass covers

stupidusername

zing zong wrote: »

you have completely misinterpreted what i said. people seem to think that to have a pass, you must look physically disabled, and im pointing out that isn't the case, hence he has a pass due to depression YET he looks the picture of health

Right, if you weren't saying all that then fine. I just don't have any tolerance for people with an ignorance to illnesses and disabilities. For some reason depression isn't considered serious enough to be an illness.

zing zong

Im with you there, but you should be patient and ask a person to clarify a post rather than getting angry, deep breaths

bigpink

zing zong wrote: »

While I agree that the travel pass scam isn't on, I don't appreciate how you equate rent allowance to scum bags.

(granted you didn't explicitly say it, but the fact that you thought to mention that it was a "rent allowence house" at all, is a clear indication that to you rent allowance and scum bags go hand in hand)

there is a recession on, a lot of people are now on rent allowance, especially in Limerick, and while the lads you talk about could very well be scumbags, please don't try to link rent allowance to being a scumbag, it's childish[/QUO

I said that the rent allowance issue is another thread.in my eyes they are scum,their getting a nice house paid for but their anti social behaviour makes them scum their not one bit gratrful for what they are getting
Theres not alot with them trust me they can run for the bus,drink beer every night,smoke dope,leave rubbish in the garden
What makes me sick is going to work on the bus paying my fare and these scrotes getting on free,being rude and loud on the bus,they have their house paid for and getting dole they dont have to get off their holes

Nobody minds a decent person on rent allowance do you know why?Because nobody notices them cause they dont act like scum:)

hightower1

Insect Overlord wrote: »

I don't think anyone has suggested that skobes riding the bus for for free caused the recession

However, people abusing free travel passes costs money if the Government has to supplement Bus Éireann for every free ride taken by chancers in Limerick. I doubt it's a major drain on tax resources, but it probably adds up to several thousand euro a year if these people are dodging fares often.

Not to mention a mini slap in the face to those who pay for the trip like we SHOULD be doing.

I take the same bus to work every single morning and I sh*t you not on more than one occasion I have been the ONLY one to end up actually handing money over on a trip of about 15 people.... about a third of them are OAP's or disabled.

Captain Average

bigpink wrote: »

Do they live in Dooradoyle??

Pretty sure they do.
Here's a tip for you if you're out in dooradoyle. Never get on Ballycummin bus on the way into town at 12pm, no matter what day of the week it is.

harr

i have a travel pass and there is nothing worng with me but my son has down syndrome and i am his full time carer.i use the pass to bring him to any hospital or doctor vists.i have had people say it to me when i was traveling on my own that i am abuseing the system. little do some people know.so dont judge a book by the cover.:mad: