Fighting Irish

jimmycrackcorm

I think that people know that they are implicated in the state we are in. ordinary people night into the boom and bought over priced houses, sought greater social benefits and deliberately ignored all the warning signs. Nobody protested on boards 5 years ago like the way they do now.

Lloyd Xmas

Shea O'Meara wrote: »

I understand peoples need to look after their neighbourhood first, rest of the country second.

This is the root cause of problems in Ireland - Everyone looking after their own patch. It's a disgusting attitude to have. Issues should be dealt with based on merit and fairness.

Coughlan, O'Donoghue etc... There own little patches hit the jackpot when they were elected. C*nts of the highest degree. Look at the state of parts of Limerick for example - Surely up there with the most depressing places in Europe. Yet O'Donoghue feels a few million would be better spent on a f*cking top-end clubhouse for a few boating enthusiasts in the middle of nowhere in Kerry. Surely the cash would have been better spent on a few public all-weather pitches for the children in Limerick to play on.

This mentality would drive you to drink; and until we look at taking care of the nation as a whole, we'll never get anywhere.

Denerick

nesf wrote: »

The people demanded the boom be fed, more Gardaí, bigger hospitals, more Teachers, more money for Special Needs kids, more roads, you name it the people asked for it.

I've been trying to say this for the last couple of years. You're shouting at a brick wall here.

the_dark_side

femur61 wrote: »

I am at a loss. Are the Irish people going to lie down and let the over inflated paid, inept politicians run the country into the ground. We fought the British to get our independence and now we reward the few who are ruining our country. Every day headlines about how retiring bankers, public servants people who were instrumental in the evolution of the bank guarantee top up their already lucrative pensions.

What happened to the "fighting Irish" are we only fighting when we have a few (over priced) drinks. Gilmore has gained public support is that how we are going to change, is that our revolution!

Ireland's spirit has been inebriated.. but slowly, reality is beginning to bite. The real fallout from the credit crunch hasn't hit all of us yet. When there are enough desperate people, then you might see some 'gestures towards disorder'... but nothing of any significance. There will be an increase in street level crime, burgularies, post office raids etc. Oil theft from private houses, schools and churches will increase... someone might throw a few stones at the AIB... that will be the sum total of our revolution.

piby

What's being overlooked here is how much our economy is and has been dependent on the EU and the US. We are a small country with a small, albeit educated, population that responds significantly to external market fluctuations. The government isn't entirely responsible for the R word although that's not to say that mistakes weren't made and that a lot of people haven't been held accountable for their actions. As somebody who voted FF in the last elections I'm highly unlikely to vote for them in the next election.

If they were to get in power tomorrow FG/Labour/The Socialists/Sinn Fein aren't going to be able to flip a magic switch that'll suddenly 'fix' the economy. Therefore for that reason I wouldn't advocate a revolution whether it be an actual people's revolt (They don't do them like they used to!) or a hasty political change. Quite frankly I'm tired of hearing people whinge about the government and how they're all 'bleedin robbers'. There comes a point when you just have to stop blaming everybody (however much they do or do not deserve it) else and try do something about it yourself.

So do some of the things suggested already but also spend the next two years examining the different parties and their policies, questioning them, making suggestions to your local TD etc. etc. and then vote for the one which you feel could best run the country from 2012.

ednwireland

Lloyd Xmas wrote: »

This is the root cause of problems in Ireland - Everyone looking after their own patch. It's a disgusting attitude to have. Issues should be dealt with based on merit and fairness.

Coughlan, O'Donoghue etc... There own little patches hit the jackpot when they were elected. C*nts of the highest degree.

youve, obviousley never been to coughlans constituency she has done nothing that i can see round here, which must make her a great politician in your eyes

caseyann

I have decided,fighting Irish shows everyday on here lmao as Irish just constantly argue among themselves,British did it wrong and when they realized it they pulled out and named us that because they knew Irish would never stop bickering,nothing to do with been good fighters

Frogeye

So do some of the things suggested already but also spend the next two years examining the different parties and their policies, questioning them, making suggestions to your local TD etc. etc. and then vote for the one which you feel could best run the country from 2012.




Couldn't agree more. People are banging on about their rights and entitlements with no mention of their responsiblites. Voting is a responsibility not a right. If the people made an effort to educate themselves on the issues rather than taking the first and easier views they are presented with, the country would be in a much better place. Its their responsiblity to educate themselves. Not the politicans. If they don't , they end up electing TD's like we have no. TD's without vision, without any principles and without the capability to move the country forward.


As for a revolt, people should be very careful on this subject. One thing we have had for the 80 plus years of our existance is a a stable democracy. Maybe not a fantastic one but stable and as fair ( a system not a society!) and open as any you will find in the world. Revolutions sound good but I can't think of too many countries that are shining examples of success after them. Thailand for example has had too many coups to count in the last 20-30 years.

Also,We have had our problems with subversives for a long time. I hope people aren't naive enough to believe that these people wouldn't hijack any well meaning movement. Don't think they aren't watching. They haven't gone away you know.

One good thing about the current situation is at least people are taking an interest in what happens. Maybe thats a revolution of a sort. Whether I agree with peoples views or not at least they have views now. Nothing worse than the indifference we had in this country of recent years.

Madd Finn

femur61 wrote: »

What happened to the "fighting Irish"

If the Irish Times is to be believed, they've all joined the British Army and are off fighting the Fuzzy Wuzzies overseas.

Like we have always done when times get tough here.