Combo Box and SaorView

nellocono

Hi guys,

Apologies if I sound a little slow here but I am looking at purchasing some sort of box for my bedroom. I already have sky installed in the living room.

What I would like is a combo box (Edison Argus mini). I believe this can be cabled directly into the sky satelite from which I will receive RTE etc etc and the others like BBc ITV...

All sounds good to me...

Now what about this whole Saor View thing? Can I get this on that box or will I need another box for this?

Thansk

watty

RTE on 28.2E (Sky) is only via Sky sub on a Digibox.

Saorview is DTT and starts Nov 2010, but not full coverage. It needs a box or TV that does DVB-t, MPEG4 H.264 and can down sample HD to SD for non-HDTVs as RTE2 will be part time HD.

Soarsat is Satellite, but not till Q2 2011 as the satellite is not launched yet. It needs different dish angle to Sky/Freesat and a different LNB on dish. It needs a setbox or TV that does DVB-s2, MPEG4 H.264 and can down sample HD to SD for non-HDTVs as RTE2 will be part time HD.
In 2012 RTE1 and RTE2 may both be mostly HD.

It doesn't look like there will be any SD/HD simulcast as with BBC, as equipment meeting Saorview or Saorsat spec does HD for HDTVs and Downsamples for ordinary TVs

slegs

nellocono wrote: »

Hi guys,

Apologies if I sound a little slow here but I am looking at purchasing some sort of box for my bedroom. I already have sky installed in the living room.

What I would like is a combo box (Edison Argus mini). I believe this can be cabled directly into the sky satelite from which I will receive RTE etc etc and the others like BBc ITV...

All sounds good to me...

Now what about this whole Saor View thing? Can I get this on that box or will I need another box for this?

Thansk

A combo box like the Edision has two tuners one for satellite and one for digital terrestrial.

On the Edision mini 2 in 1 you get your UK FTA channels including HD from your satellite feed. You get the Irish channels via DTT (Saorview) from a UHF aerial from a DTT enabled transmitter. You get a single guide so the two sources are transparent to the user.

The Edision is DVB-S2 and DVB-T MPEG4. It does not have MHEG-5 so it will not get digital aertel. But since tests have began in 2008 RTENL have continued to broadcast the existing analog type Aertel alongside the new digital aertel. The Edision will receive all Saorview channels but wont be certified as fully Saorview compatible for this reason.

Probably too early to say anything about Saorsat (proposed satellite version of Saorview) as we dont know concrete details but in theory the Edision will be able to receive these broadcasts also with the correct satellite dish configuration.

irishh_bob

slegs wrote: »

A combo box like the Edision has two tuners one for satellite and one for digital terrestrial.

On the Edision mini 2 in 1 you get your UK FTA channels including HD from your satellite feed. You get the Irish channels via DTT (Saorview) from a UHF aerial from a DTT enabled transmitter. You get a single guide so the two sources are transparent to the user.

The Edision is DVB-S2 and DVB-T MPEG4. It does not have MHEG-5 so it will not get digital aertel. But since tests have began in 2008 RTENL have continued to broadcast the existing analog type Aertel alongside the new digital aertel. The Edision will receive all Saorview channels but wont be certified as fully Saorview compatible for this reason.

Probably too early to say anything about Saorsat (proposed satellite version of Saorview) as we dont know concrete details but in theory the Edision will be able to receive these broadcasts also with the correct satellite dish configuration.

so baschically you still need an aerial on the roof in order to recieve RTE through this item here http://www.saortv.com/shop/Digital-TV-Receivers/Combo/Edision-Argus-mini-2-in-1-IP-Combo-HD-Satellite/DTT-Receiver/prod_72.html , from reading the production information details , i thought rte was available via the satelite like all the other chanells , bbc , itv etc

Bob_Harris

irishh_bob wrote: »

so baschically you still need an aerial on the roof in order to recieve RTE through this item here http://www.saortv.com/shop/Digital-TV-Receivers/Combo/Edision-Argus-mini-2-in-1-IP-Combo-HD-Satellite/DTT-Receiver/prod_72.html , from reading the production information details , i thought rte was available via the satelite like all the other chanells , bbc , itv etc

The first sentence in the description is:

Suitable for Irish Digital Terrestrial Television

The last sentence is

Please check the information on our forum to verify that you are covered by an active Irish DTT transmitter (to receive RTE1/RTE2/TV3/TG4) - this service will only be available in Ireland.

snaps

irishh_bob wrote: »

so baschically you still need an aerial on the roof in order to recieve RTE through this item here http://www.saortv.com/shop/Digital-TV-Receivers/Combo/Edision-Argus-mini-2-in-1-IP-Combo-HD-Satellite/DTT-Receiver/prod_72.html , from reading the production information details , i thought rte was available via the satelite like all the other chanells , bbc , itv etc

Rte is only available on satellite with a 22€ sky sub.

irishh_bob

snaps wrote: »

Rte is only available on satellite with a 22€ sky sub.

thanks for that straight answer , this greatley diminshes the value of the edison combo box IMO

STB

bob dont work for Sky by any chance ?

The edison has a HD Satellite tuner which can pick up a multitude oof satellites including 28.2 (Astra UK free stations) and 9E (proposed RTE FTA on satellite).

The edison also has a dvb-t tuner on it as well which picks up the Rte DTT transmission.

All of the satellite and digital terrestrial channels can be mixed in one channel list. Thats right you get your own channel list.

Heres the channels you get FOR FREE.

1 RTÉ 1
2 RTE 2
3 TV 3 (Currently on Test Card)
4 TG 4
5 BBC 1 NI
6 BBC 2 NI
7 BBC HD
8 UTV
9 ITV1 HD
10 Channel 4
11 Channel 4 +1
12 FIVE
13 E4
14 E4+1
15 More4
16 More4 +1
17 BBC Three
18 BBC Four
19 ITV2
20 ITV2+1
21 ITV3
22 ITV3+1
23 ITV4
24 ITV4+1
25 Film4
26 Film4 +1
27 RTÉ News Now
28 BBC NEWS
29 Sky News Ireland
30 CNN
31 CNBC
32 Bloomberg
33 Euronews
34 CBBC Channel
35 CBeebies
36 CITV
37 POP
38 Tiny Pop
39 Tiny Pop +1
40 Kix!
41 PopGirl
42 PopGirl +1
43 jazeerachildren
44 CBS Action
45 CBS Drama
46 CBS Reality+1
47 Zone Horror
48 Zone Horror+1
49 Film24
50 True Movies
51 True Movies 2
52 movies4men
53 mov4men+1
54 movies4men 2
55 mov4men2 +1
56 BBC ALBA
57 BBC PARL'MNT
58 S4C
59 S4C2
60 Luxe TV HD
61 Fitness TV
62 Men & Motors
63 Horse & Country
64 Fashion TV
65 wedding tv
66 BET
67 BET +1
68 Food Network
69 Food Netwrk+1
70 Rural TV
71 Controversial tv
72 Sumo TV
73 The Vault
74 Chart Show TV
75 NME TV
76 Flava
77 Bliss
78 Scuzz
79 Flaunt
80 ROCKWORLDTV
81 Clubland TV
82 oMusic TV
83 STREAM-0
84 STREAM-1
85 STREAM-2
86 STREAM-3
87 STREAM-4
88 STREAM-5
89 STREAM-6
90 T7 STRM-0
91 T7 STRM-1
92 Al Jazeera Eng
93 France 24
94 Russia Today
95 PTV Prime
96 Abu Dhabi TV
97 PCNE Chinese
98 QVC
99 Thane Direct
100 Travel Channel
101 Travel Ch +1
102 JML Direct
103 JML CookShop
104 Ideal World
105 Ideal World 2
106 Ideal World 3
107 Shop on TV
108 price-drop tv
109 Entrepreneur
110 BBC 1 London
111 BBC 2 England
112 BBC 1 Wales
113 BBC 2 Wales
114 BBC 1 Scotland
115 BBC 2 Scotland
116 ITV1 London
117 STV
118 ITV1 Wales

It costs zero. Thats right zero per month. That greatly dimishes the reason to pay Sky 22 euros a month for basically channels that ARE free to air.

200motels

STB wrote: »

bob dont work for Sky by any chance ?

The edison has a HD Satellite tuner which can pick up a multitude oof satellites including 28.2 (Astra UK free stations) and 9E (proposed RTE FTA on satellite).

The edison also has a dvb-t tuner on it as well which picks up the Rte DTT transmission.

All of the satellite and digital terrestrial channels can be mixed in one channel list. Thats right you get your own channel list.

Heres the channels you get FOR FREE.

1 RTÉ 1
2 RTE 2
3 TV 3 (Currently on Test Card)
4 TG 4
5 BBC 1 NI
6 BBC 2 NI
7 BBC HD
8 UTV
9 ITV1 HD
10 Channel 4
11 Channel 4 +1
12 FIVE
13 E4
14 E4+1
15 More4
16 More4 +1
17 BBC Three
18 BBC Four
19 ITV2
20 ITV2+1
21 ITV3
22 ITV3+1
23 ITV4
24 ITV4+1
25 Film4
26 Film4 +1
27 RTÉ News Now
28 BBC NEWS
29 Sky News Ireland
30 CNN
31 CNBC
32 Bloomberg
33 Euronews
34 CBBC Channel
35 CBeebies
36 CITV
37 POP
38 Tiny Pop
39 Tiny Pop +1
40 Kix!
41 PopGirl
42 PopGirl +1
43 jazeerachildren
44 CBS Action
45 CBS Drama
46 CBS Reality+1
47 Zone Horror
48 Zone Horror+1
49 Film24
50 True Movies
51 True Movies 2
52 movies4men
53 mov4men+1
54 movies4men 2
55 mov4men2 +1
56 BBC ALBA
57 BBC PARL'MNT
58 S4C
59 S4C2
60 Luxe TV HD
61 Fitness TV
62 Men & Motors
63 Horse & Country
64 Fashion TV
65 wedding tv
66 BET
67 BET +1
68 Food Network
69 Food Netwrk+1
70 Rural TV
71 Controversial tv
72 Sumo TV
73 The Vault
74 Chart Show TV
75 NME TV
76 Flava
77 Bliss
78 Scuzz
79 Flaunt
80 ROCKWORLDTV
81 Clubland TV
82 oMusic TV
83 STREAM-0
84 STREAM-1
85 STREAM-2
86 STREAM-3
87 STREAM-4
88 STREAM-5
89 STREAM-6
90 T7 STRM-0
91 T7 STRM-1
92 Al Jazeera Eng
93 France 24
94 Russia Today
95 PTV Prime
96 Abu Dhabi TV
97 PCNE Chinese
98 QVC
99 Thane Direct
100 Travel Channel
101 Travel Ch +1
102 JML Direct
103 JML CookShop
104 Ideal World
105 Ideal World 2
106 Ideal World 3
107 Shop on TV
108 price-drop tv
109 Entrepreneur
110 BBC 1 London
111 BBC 2 England
112 BBC 1 Wales
113 BBC 2 Wales
114 BBC 1 Scotland
115 BBC 2 Scotland
116 ITV1 London
117 STV
118 ITV1 Wales

It costs zero. Thats right zero per month. That greatly dimishes the reason to pay Sky 22 euros a month for basically channels that ARE free to air.

That's fair enough but does it have a hard drive and can you pause live TV? Unless it does it's no good to me.

watty

snaps wrote: »

Rte is only available on satellite with a 22€ sky sub.

Or via aerial for free.

John mac

200motels wrote: »

That's fair enough but does it have a hard drive and can you pause live TV? Unless it does it's no good to me.

Yes (you need an external hd or usb flash drive)

PVR features (video recording, playback, MP3) via USB
Time-shift recording (TimeShift)

irishh_bob

STB wrote: »

bob dont work for Sky by any chance ?

The edison has a HD Satellite tuner which can pick up a multitude oof satellites including 28.2 (Astra UK free stations) and 9E (proposed RTE FTA on satellite).

The edison also has a dvb-t tuner on it as well which picks up the Rte DTT transmission.

All of the satellite and digital terrestrial channels can be mixed in one channel list. Thats right you get your own channel list.

Heres the channels you get FOR FREE.

1 RTÉ 1
2 RTE 2
3 TV 3 (Currently on Test Card)
4 TG 4
5 BBC 1 NI
6 BBC 2 NI
7 BBC HD
8 UTV
9 ITV1 HD
10 Channel 4
11 Channel 4 +1
12 FIVE
13 E4
14 E4+1
15 More4
16 More4 +1
17 BBC Three
18 BBC Four
19 ITV2
20 ITV2+1
21 ITV3
22 ITV3+1
23 ITV4
24 ITV4+1
25 Film4
26 Film4 +1
27 RTÉ News Now
28 BBC NEWS
29 Sky News Ireland
30 CNN
31 CNBC
32 Bloomberg
33 Euronews
34 CBBC Channel
35 CBeebies
36 CITV
37 POP
38 Tiny Pop
39 Tiny Pop +1
40 Kix!
41 PopGirl
42 PopGirl +1
43 jazeerachildren
44 CBS Action
45 CBS Drama
46 CBS Reality+1
47 Zone Horror
48 Zone Horror+1
49 Film24
50 True Movies
51 True Movies 2
52 movies4men
53 mov4men+1
54 movies4men 2
55 mov4men2 +1
56 BBC ALBA
57 BBC PARL'MNT
58 S4C
59 S4C2
60 Luxe TV HD
61 Fitness TV
62 Men & Motors
63 Horse & Country
64 Fashion TV
65 wedding tv
66 BET
67 BET +1
68 Food Network
69 Food Netwrk+1
70 Rural TV
71 Controversial tv
72 Sumo TV
73 The Vault
74 Chart Show TV
75 NME TV
76 Flava
77 Bliss
78 Scuzz
79 Flaunt
80 ROCKWORLDTV
81 Clubland TV
82 oMusic TV
83 STREAM-0
84 STREAM-1
85 STREAM-2
86 STREAM-3
87 STREAM-4
88 STREAM-5
89 STREAM-6
90 T7 STRM-0
91 T7 STRM-1
92 Al Jazeera Eng
93 France 24
94 Russia Today
95 PTV Prime
96 Abu Dhabi TV
97 PCNE Chinese
98 QVC
99 Thane Direct
100 Travel Channel
101 Travel Ch +1
102 JML Direct
103 JML CookShop
104 Ideal World
105 Ideal World 2
106 Ideal World 3
107 Shop on TV
108 price-drop tv
109 Entrepreneur
110 BBC 1 London
111 BBC 2 England
112 BBC 1 Wales
113 BBC 2 Wales
114 BBC 1 Scotland
115 BBC 2 Scotland
116 ITV1 London
117 STV
118 ITV1 Wales

It costs zero. Thats right zero per month. That greatly dimishes the reason to pay Sky 22 euros a month for basically channels that ARE free to air.

i dumped all over SKY in several threads , the edison combo box does not deliver RTE without an aerial on the roof , seeing as i have a sky HD box already , it would make more sense just to cancel sky sub ( thus rendering my sky box a free sat box with accompanying HD channells for all intents and purposes ) and then simply stick an analogue cable from the roof aerial into the back of the tv in order to deliver RTE , were the edison combo able to deliver RTE ( via the dish ) without having to involve a roof aerial , i would jump at it

STB

irishh_bob wrote: »

i dumped all over SKY in several threads , the edison combo box does not deliver RTE without an aerial on the roof , seeing as i have a sky HD box already , it would make more sense just to cancel sky sub ( thus rendering my sky box a free sat box with accompanying HD channells for all intents and purposes ) and then simply stick an analogue cable from the roof aerial into the back of the tv in order to deliver RTE , were the edison combo able to deliver RTE ( via the dish ) without having to involve a roof aerial , i would jump at it

Why dont you just use the feed from your aerial. I dont have an outdoor aerial. I use an indoor aerial with 5v phantom power off the combo box. I've 91% quality and 100% signal strength (in Dublin).

One channel list. Digital RTE.

irishh_bob

STB wrote: »

Why dont you just use the feed from your aerial. I dont have an outdoor aerial. I use an indoor aerial with 5v phantom power off the combo box. I've 91% quality and 100% signal strength (in Dublin).

One channel list. Digital RTE.

because that would mean id have to buy an indoor aerial , if i cant get rte ( via the same source as the british channells , i.e , the dish ) through the edison combo , i really dont see the point of it ( for existing sky customers )

STB

irishh_bob wrote: »

because that would mean id have to buy an indoor aerial , if i cant get rte ( via the same source as the british channells , i.e , the dish ) through the edison combo , i really dont see the point of it

you have me confused Bob.

Did you not just say you had an outdoor aerial that you were going to use for analogue ?

Well why dont you just use that aerial to pick up the digital Irish terrestrial stations on the combo.

Unless you have a Digital TV with DTT MPEG4 tuner of course!

John mac

the combo is a combination of satellite and Digital terrestrial.
thats the point of it.

it decodes the signal for rte.

watty

irishh_bob wrote: »

because that would mean id have to buy an indoor aerial , if i cant get rte ( via the same source as the british channells , i.e , the dish ) through the edison combo , i really dont see the point of it

See
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=60897584&postcount=4

An indoor aerial, better than Rabbits Ear and needs no amp. If you need an Amp you need real aerial in loft or outdoors.


Many variations exist. About €8

The point is to save €25 a month (UK VAT goes up in JAN)

Mr McBoatface

irishh_bob wrote: »

i dumped all over SKY in several threads , the edison combo box does not deliver RTE without an aerial on the roof , seeing as i have a sky HD box already , it would make more sense just to cancel sky sub ( thus rendering my sky box a free sat box with accompanying HD channells for all intents and purposes ) and then simply stick an analogue cable from the roof aerial into the back of the tv in order to deliver RTE , were the edison combo able to deliver RTE ( via the dish ) without having to involve a roof aerial , i would jump at it

irishh_bob wrote: »

because that would mean id have to buy an indoor aerial , if i cant get rte ( via the same source as the british channells , i.e , the dish ) through the edison combo , i really dont see the point of it

If you already have a roof top aerial for analogue the chances are it will be fine for RTE digital. A rough rule of thumb mentioned on the forums here is that if you can get TV3 on analogue you'll be able to get the digital service using the same aerial and cables.

I too had Sky HD and dropped it when I realised I had a really good RTE digital reception and found out about FTA satellite. I sold my HD box on adverts.ie and got a 100 Euro for it. I used the money towards a nice combo box, I actually used the money towards DVB-S2 and DVB-T cards for my HTPC, I haven't looked back since.

I've seen the edison and other combo boxes in action and have been impressed. I have bought and set some up for relatives who have no problem at all with them.

EDIT1 - I actually used a indoor like the one Watty has pictured above in a relatives Loft and used an existing loft cable that ran to their sitting room. The results are near perfect with 80% plus signal level and 100% signal quality.

EDIT2 - In my own home I've actually used a small stick antenna supplied with a USB DVB-T tuner and got identical results to that from a expensive Televes DAT75 Aerial - http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055902513.

watty

100% quality is perfect...

irishh_bob

STB wrote: »

you have me confused Bob.

Did you not just say you had an outdoor aerial that you were going to use for analogue ?

Well why dont you just use that aerial to pick up the digital Irish terrestrial stations on the combo.

Unless you have a Digital TV with DTT MPEG4 tuner of course!

i do have an aerial on the roof but only use it for the kitchen , picture quality is crap on the irish channells due to the fact that its one of those aerials ( pre satelite ) for getting the english channels aswell as the irish , both end up being compromised , was told by a reliable source that i need a UHF aerial which will focus on the irish channells alone ( will not bring in british channells ) , i have free sat for the english channells so the new UHF aerial will provide for RTE

what would be the point of running a cable from the UHF roof aerial through the edison combo , why not just plug the aerial cable into the back of the tv direct like in the old days and simply use your sky box ( without card ) for the freesat service

i can see why those who have no existing box or dish of any kind would go for the edison combo and grab a dish to boot but not existing sky customers

RoxyS

And dont forget to look at other combo boxes.
I am eargerly waiting on the Qbox HD Mini to surface.
Key attaction being Linux based Enigma software, DTT Mpeg-4 ready, and FTA Satellite, PVR ready, wifi for loading web videos / movies etc. Single EPG.

Mr McBoatface

irishh_bob wrote: »

what would be the point of running a cable from the roof aerial through the edison combo , why not just plug the aerial cable into the back of the tv direct like in the old days and simply use your sky box ( without card ) for the freesat service

i can see why those who have no existing box or dish of any kind would go for the edison combo and grab a dish to boot but not existing sky customers

The difference in quality of RTE digital (albeit the Test/Trial) over the analogue is huge , well at least in my house and nearby. Snowy pictures replaced by crisp digital images as good if not better than those from sky.

In October when launched there will be channels on the digital service not available on analogue or Sky including some occasional HD material on RTE2. When the 2nd mux becomes available a year or two after launch more channels including a film channel may be coming on-board but more importantly the HD service and content can be increased.

irishh_bob

jobyrne30 wrote: »

The difference in quality of RTE digital (albeit the Test/Trial) over the analogue is huge , well at least in my house and nearby. Snowy pictures replaced by crisp digital images as good if not better than those from sky.

In October when launched there will be channels on the digital service not available on analogue or Sky including some occasional HD material on RTE2. When the 2nd mux becomes available a year or two after launch more channels including a film channel may be coming on-board but more importantly the HD service and content can be increased.

are you saying the edison combo could clean up the picture currently delivered by analogue aerial

watty

Analogue: No Widescreen, no HD, gradual increase in Snow and/or Ghosts as singla poorer.

Digital RTE via Aerial: Widescreen. Gradually increasing HD content after Oct 2010. Picture perfect if you have enough signal, otherwise pixelates and freezes.

Mr McBoatface

irishh_bob wrote: »

are you saying the edison combo could clean up the picture currently delivered by analogue aerial

The two signal are completely different, for me the analogue reception I have isn't great but the digital reception is perfect.

Analogue signals degrades but with digital you can either receive it or not receive it, the picture quality doesn't degrade. So for example a house 1 km from a transmitter may have perfect analogue and digital where as a house 25km away may have poor analogue but perfect digital.

irishh_bob

jobyrne30 wrote: »

The two signal are completely different, for me the analogue reception I have isn't great but the digital reception is perfect.

Analogue signals degrades but with digital you can either receive it or not receive it, the picture quality doesn't degrade. So for example a house 1 km from a transmitter may have perfect analogue and digital where as a house 25km away may have poor analogue but perfect digital.

im 40 miles from a transmitter

Mr McBoatface

irishh_bob wrote: »

im 40 miles from a transmitter

Just a simple general example I was using bob, it would be best state where you are. Like I said earlier if you can get TV3 on analogue the chances are you'll get the RTE digital service when it launches in October and the current test/trial.

So can you get TV3 on analogue on your TV using your Aerial.

EDIT- I'm over 55KM (about 35miles) from Mount Leinster with perfect digital reception.

irishh_bob

jobyrne30 wrote: »

Just a simple general example I was using bob, it would be best state where you are. Like I said earlier if you can get TV3 on analogue the chances are you'll get the RTE digital service when it launches in October and the current test/trial.

So can you get TV3 on analogue on your TV using your Aerial.

EDIT- I'm over 55KM (about 35miles) from Mount Leinster with perfect digital reception.

tv3 is a poor reception and teletext would be impossible to read on it , rte 2 is perfect , rte one is not as good and tg4 is more or less non existant , local aerial guy told me i should take down aerial and put up a UHF ( irish aerial as he calls it ) and just use the sat for british channells

John mac

if you have tv3, you will get a digital signal.

jaykay8989

STB wrote: »

bob dont work for Sky by any chance ?

The edison has a HD Satellite tuner which can pick up a multitude oof satellites including 28.2 (Astra UK free stations) and 9E (proposed RTE FTA on satellite).

The edison also has a dvb-t tuner on it as well which picks up the Rte DTT transmission.

All of the satellite and digital terrestrial channels can be mixed in one channel list. Thats right you get your own channel list.

Heres the channels you get FOR FREE.

1 RTÉ 1
2 RTE 2
3 TV 3 (Currently on Test Card)
4 TG 4
5 BBC 1 NI
6 BBC 2 NI
7 BBC HD
8 UTV
9 ITV1 HD
10 Channel 4
11 Channel 4 +1
12 FIVE
13 E4
14 E4+1
15 More4
16 More4 +1
17 BBC Three
18 BBC Four
19 ITV2
20 ITV2+1
21 ITV3
22 ITV3+1
23 ITV4
24 ITV4+1
25 Film4
26 Film4 +1
27 RTÉ News Now
28 BBC NEWS
29 Sky News Ireland
30 CNN
31 CNBC
32 Bloomberg
33 Euronews
34 CBBC Channel
35 CBeebies
36 CITV
37 POP
38 Tiny Pop
39 Tiny Pop +1
40 Kix!
41 PopGirl
42 PopGirl +1
43 jazeerachildren
44 CBS Action
45 CBS Drama
46 CBS Reality+1
47 Zone Horror
48 Zone Horror+1
49 Film24
50 True Movies
51 True Movies 2
52 movies4men
53 mov4men+1
54 movies4men 2
55 mov4men2 +1
56 BBC ALBA
57 BBC PARL'MNT
58 S4C
59 S4C2
60 Luxe TV HD
61 Fitness TV
62 Men & Motors
63 Horse & Country
64 Fashion TV
65 wedding tv
66 BET
67 BET +1
68 Food Network
69 Food Netwrk+1
70 Rural TV
71 Controversial tv
72 Sumo TV
73 The Vault
74 Chart Show TV
75 NME TV
76 Flava
77 Bliss
78 Scuzz
79 Flaunt
80 ROCKWORLDTV
81 Clubland TV
82 oMusic TV
83 STREAM-0
84 STREAM-1
85 STREAM-2
86 STREAM-3
87 STREAM-4
88 STREAM-5
89 STREAM-6
90 T7 STRM-0
91 T7 STRM-1
92 Al Jazeera Eng
93 France 24
94 Russia Today
95 PTV Prime
96 Abu Dhabi TV
97 PCNE Chinese
98 QVC
99 Thane Direct
100 Travel Channel
101 Travel Ch +1
102 JML Direct
103 JML CookShop
104 Ideal World
105 Ideal World 2
106 Ideal World 3
107 Shop on TV
108 price-drop tv
109 Entrepreneur
110 BBC 1 London
111 BBC 2 England
112 BBC 1 Wales
113 BBC 2 Wales
114 BBC 1 Scotland
115 BBC 2 Scotland
116 ITV1 London
117 STV
118 ITV1 Wales

It costs zero. Thats right zero per month. That greatly dimishes the reason to pay Sky 22 euros a month for basically channels that ARE free to air.

Hi all,

Just spotted this thread, and I have an additional question please! If I had the edison combo sat/DTT box and a usb/hard drive, what is the funcionality like for recording future programming? IE, is it a 7 day or 24hr or 'now and next' EPG, and if its not 7 day, can you set it by timer to record a channel if you are going to be away for the day? Also, I presume you can watch one channel while recording another?

Thanks v much in advance! I have cancelled my sky multiroom recently and will use the sky box and aeriel for the free channels instead for the 'second' tv. If that goes well, I'll get rid SKY altogether. Sick of their rip-off pricing.

Cheers.

Macy0161

jobyrne30 wrote: »

In October when launched there will be channels on the digital service not available on analogue or Sky including some occasional HD material on RTE2. When the 2nd mux becomes available a year or two after launch more channels including a film channel may be coming on-board but more importantly the HD service and content can be increased.

Will the combo's, such as the Edison, handle the DTT HD content?

slegs

Macy0161 wrote: »

Will the combo's, such as the Edison, handle the DTT HD content?

Yes, they will and do handle the current HD RTNL2 test card just fine

irishh_bob

what may i ask is a test card ( needed for tv3 apparently ) and do you have to order it seperatley

RoxyS

This is just a static picture on the TV screen, to allow you to tune to that particular station. Normally put there in advance of the station going live (TV3 on DTT), or when the station shuts down at night.

watty

Some people allege it's an Improvement on PlayTV.

Famous Test Card when BBC Director General Resigned


low quality version of old 1970s 4:3 BBC Test card updated for WS HDTV


Colour Bars


4:3 format Amateur Digital TV test card (SD)


Test if PC/Laptop is Interlaced in some fashion

STB

irishh_bob wrote: »

what may i ask is a test card ( needed for tv3 apparently ) and do you have to order it seperatley

Bob all you need is to take the connection out of your sky box and plug it into the Combo box. You then also plug your aerial in to the back of the same box. In the case of the Edison mini 2n1 the guy selling them at SAORTV will actually pre program them to go (or you can scan yourself and delete what you dont want). Its €170 well spent. I had to watch analogue (the fuzzy stuff) last weekend to watch the Dubs play and hated that I had to (TV3 will not be on it til October). Its crystal on DTT - like sat.

You will also get a RTE News Now Channel that you dont get on analogue or elsewhere.

Heres what it looks like connections wise.



Guy who posted above you sells them.

irishh_bob

STB wrote: »

Bob all you need is to take the connection out of your sky box and plug it into the Combo box. You then also plug your aerial in to the back of the same box. In the case of the Edison mini 2n1 the guy selling them at SAORTV will actually pre program them to go (or you can scan yourself and delete what you dont want). Its €170 well spent. I had to watch analogue (the fuzzy stuff) last weekend to watch the Dubs play and hated that I had to (TV3 will not be on it til October). Its crystal on DTT - like sat.

You will also get a RTE News Now Channel that you dont get on analogue or elsewhere.

Heres what it looks like connections wise.



Guy who posted above you sells them.

thanks a bunch but ive just come across this post from big_moe and it so happens that im about to buy a panasonic G20 , according to moe , this has the same tuner as the edison and will decode the rte channells

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055973351&page=2

D'Peoples Voice

irishh_bob wrote: »

thanks a bunch but ive just come across this post from big_moe and it so happens that im about to buy a panasonic G20 , according to moe , this has the same tuner as the edison and will decode the rte channells

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055973351&page=2

would this one work in Ireland?

http://www.satboerse24.de/edision-argus-mini-ip-hdtvreceiver-schwarz-p-20674.html?cPath=10274_125&osCsid=9dcjdupjaapknanipeiu891v73

slegs

D'Peoples Voice wrote: »

would this one work in Ireland?

http://www.satboerse24.de/edision-argus-mini-ip-hdtvreceiver-schwarz-p-20674.html?cPath=10274_125&osCsid=9dcjdupjaapknanipeiu891v73

Satellite only

irishh_bob

id like to thank those who educated me in the past week regarding RTE digital,s service , i rooted around in my attic yesterday and connected my aerial ( which was lieing idle this past number of years ) to my sky + box , only learned in the past few days that a sky box is also a DB-T decoder , anyway , connected the aerial to the sky box and another cable from the sky box to the back of the tv , within three minutes my tv had found 15 RTE digital channels , most of them are radio channells but RTE 1 and RTE2 are crystal clear and every bit as good as through the sky sat subscription , also noticed that RTE have a news channell

TG4 or TV3 are not available however , not even highlighted , no attempt to find them ?????

John mac

did you try plugging the aerial directly into the TV ?

irishh_bob

John mac wrote: »

did you try plugging the aerial directly into the TV ?

yeah , picture was ****e on all the channells

pgtipz

Edision mini 2 in 1 - help required
(please point me in the right direction if this is in the wrong post)`

Setup was straight forward enough and I was able to receive DTT/SAT & SAT HD (e.g. BBC HD) and happy with my lot but noticed that when I change channels the sound/voice goes up a pitch or two and everyone talks like they're on helium. Tried the latest firmware update via USB but must have chosen the wrong option as my box displayed the word 'ASH' afterwards.
Got myself a null modem cable and attempted to re-flash and while it connects fine (with the Edision s/w) and appears to be updated to 100% when I disconnect the cable and restart the box it still shows ASH - any help would be appreciated (apologies if this is in the wrong thread...)

John mac

pgtipz wrote: »

Edision mini 2 in 1 - help required
(please point me in the right direction if this is in the wrong post)`

Setup was straight forward enough and I was able to receive DTT/SAT & SAT HD (e.g. BBC HD) and happy with my lot but noticed that when I change channels the sound/voice goes up a pitch or two and everyone talks like they're on helium. Tried the latest firmware update via USB but must have chosen the wrong option as my box displayed the word 'ASH' afterwards.
Got myself a null modem cable and attempted to re-flash and while it connects fine (with the Edision s/w) and appears to be updated to 100% when I disconnect the cable and restart the box it still shows ASH - any help would be appreciated (apologies if this is in the wrong thread...)

have a look here http://www.saortv.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=21&sid=a56904458cb4eaca6fdf7388ffea2185

pgtipz

Thanks John Mac - I've been here already - good website with good information - unfortunatley I may have already done more harm than good...
Numerous flash attempts with the Edision software but to no avail - think I may have turned my box into a 'brick' - thanks anyway !

millb

Hi,
maybe somebody could help. I've just hooked up this box and so far everything is fine.

The original software seems to be from March 2010 and I was going to upload the FW on the http://www.argus-family.de/produktreceiverargusminiSATip.html page which seems to be dated last week (8-9-2010). Anyway the instructions are in german and I got a message saying "am I sure" about the upload as the BIN does not match so maybe I'm wiser not to bother with the software update and wait for somebody else to post this somewhere?

theShire

millb wrote: »

Hi,
maybe somebody could help. I've just hooked up this box and so far everything is fine.

The original software seems to be from March 2010 and I was going to upload the FW on the http://www.argus-family.de/produktreceiverargusminiSATip.html page which seems to be dated last week (8-9-2010). Anyway the instructions are in german and I got a message saying "am I sure" about the upload as the BIN does not match so maybe I'm wiser not to bother with the software update and wait for somebody else to post this somewhere?

The Current F/W seems to have issues with the DTT channels.
Get the June update from Slegs www.saortv.com/forum
See the following thread for more info http://boards.ie/tre/2055792912

Mr McBoatface

millb wrote: »

Hi,
maybe somebody could help. I've just hooked up this box and so far everything is fine.

The original software seems to be from March 2010 and I was going to upload the FW on the http://www.argus-family.de/produktreceiverargusminiSATip.html page which seems to be dated last week (8-9-2010). Anyway the instructions are in german and I got a message saying "am I sure" about the upload as the BIN does not match so maybe I'm wiser not to bother with the software update and wait for somebody else to post this somewhere?

I believe that's the wrong box you selected for the update, there are a few models with similar names, the one you picked has no DTT tuner. I believe one of these is the correct one - http://www.edision-argus-vip.de/produktreceiverargusmini2in1.html or possibly this one http://www.edision-argus-vip.de/produktreceiverargusmini2in1ip.html.

I don't own one of those boxes but if I did I'd hold off doing any updates until It was recommended by slegs on one of the threads here or on the excellent saortv forum.

millb

thanks for the advice.. i'm really enjoying the challenge of learning and figuring out the device despite my lack of german ..:)

scout353

A quick question on these boxes - do they have the facility via a powered RFoutlet to operate a magic eye?

Or do you have to have a remote extender?

Moving into an apartment that is wired for sat - but cables run into storage cupboard where shelf for sat box is located. So if I put box in there I won't be able to change channels unless I can use a Magic Eye (preferred option) or remote extender.

millb

Hello,
I'm just wondering if this is a http://www.argus-family.de/produktreceiverargusmini2in1.html firmware update IE the file with 25-10-10- v1.2.86

I tried to load it up but it was not accepted by the box.

my german is not great so maybe somebody has done this and can share the knowledge /benefit please?