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What is Anarchy?
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It is very annoying hence I dont bother argueing with kickoutthejams anymore.
The forum doesn't demand perfect English (I went to secondary school abroad so my own level is far from perfect)I cant read and write English very well so instead I refer to books.
As long as you can back your arguments up and type in a coherent manner, nobody will have any issue.
The BBC would disagree with you;Apparently thats not good enough. Like I dont need to point out that the existence of pirates on the sea has nothing to do with the social system on the land
"The long-standing absence of authority in the country has led to Somali pirates becoming a major threat to international shipping in the area, and has prompted Nato to take the lead in an anti-piracy operation. "
Or, they show the kind of groups that will take control in the abscence of a liberal democratic state.or that the violent regions in Somalia are the ones were people are emulating a state.
You're comparing a tiny, fractured country to the an empire at the time. Interesting.Or that the violence in Celtic Ireland was nothing compared to the expansion of Roman empire.
In Ireland, violence was endemic and a way of life. I have pointed this out numerous times but you keep on avoiding this and have completely failed to back up your claims.
Frankly I'd rather have lived under the Romans than in Gaelic Ireland. At least then I'd have to worry a lot less about my neighbours killing me and stealing my cattle.0 -
Anarchy never worked
Not true. There have been very few examples of genuinely anarchistic societies. The best examples are probably the Paris Commune and the CNT/FAI controlled areas of Spain during the Spanish Civil War. In both cases, the anarchist societies were destroyed from the outside by violence, rather than through any internal instability.
Anyway, I'll just leave this here: http://www.infoshop.org/page/AnAnarchistFAQ
You put my original point across far better than I could about the CNT
.Still failed to exist for a single life time. I'm not getting into a Spanish Civil war but anarchists were fairly disordered when it came to fighting bar that one squadron that I cant remember its name. They attempted with violence to assert their ideology on others and were met with people trying to assert their lifestyle on them.
They failed to exist for a single life time because fascists, communists, socialists, the Spanish army etc etc was committed to the destruction of the anarchist communes regardless of which side won the war. I'll agree that the anarchists were utterly useless at fighting with the exception of the Durretti Column (who I presume you're referring to) due to their hatred of obeying orders. Attempting to fight a war and refusing to take orders from anyone was a recipe for disaster as you can imagine and eventually led to the Events of May where the Communists effectively destroyed the CNT-FAI to bring their anti-statist tendencies under control.
The CNT generally didn't force people into the collectives they established in the countryside. Usually the poorer peasants collectivised their farms while the wealthier farmers property rights were respected. However there were isolated instances were forced collectivisation occured but these were extremely rare. Anthony Beevor's book 'The Battle for Spain' discusses this issue in some depth if I recall.
The Anarcho-Syndicalists of the Spanish Civil War are a worthy topic of discussion in their own thread so this is the last time I'll mention them in this one.0 -
kickoutthejams wrote: »
Isn't it said that the piracy exists through illegal fishing and the dumping of waste in their waters, and that a lot of the pirates are ex-fisherman?0 -
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HavingCrack wrote: »You put my original point across far better than I could about the CNT.
They failed to exist for a single life time because fascists, communists, socialists, the Spanish army etc etc was committed to the destruction of the anarchist communes regardless of which side won the war. I'll agree that the anarchists were utterly useless at fighting with the exception of the Durretti Column (who I presume you're referring to) due to their hatred of obeying orders. Attempting to fight a war and refusing to take orders from anyone was a recipe for disaster as you can imagine and eventually led to the Events of May where the Communists effectively destroyed the CNT-FAI to bring their anti-statist tendencies under control.
The CNT generally didn't force people into the collectives they established in the countryside. Usually the poorer peasants collectivised their farms while the wealthier farmers property rights were respected. However there were isolated instances were forced collectivisation occured but these were extremely rare. Anthony Beevor's book 'The Battle for Spain' discusses this issue in some depth if I recall.
The Anarcho-Syndicalists of the Spanish Civil War are a worthy topic of discussion in their own thread so this is the last time I'll mention them in this one.
I'll write that book down and read it sometime. But as I understand They took over companies and churches that werent theirs. I consider that violence. As I said before I deal society is a more liberal version of the Amish culture. I abhor violence.Isn't it said that the piracy exists through illegal fishing and the dumping of waste in their waters, and that a lot of the pirates are ex-fisherman?
They could pay the so called war mongers to stop them. But no.0 -
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