Today is the 4th of July - American Indpendance Day

starbelgrade

The American commemoration of the adoption of the Declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776, declaring independence from the Kingdom of Great Britain.

Which beggars the question, how come Ireland doesn't have a similar day of commemoration of our day of independance?

Do you think we should have one?

jd007

If it means a day off then yes, yes we should

Mars Bar

It's my birthday today so I celebrate the 4th anyway! :P

starbelgrade

mars bar wrote: »

It's my birthday today so I celebrate the 4th anyway! :P

Happy Birthday.. don't spend it all on Boards!

Mars Bar

starbelgrade wrote: »

Happy Birthday.. don't spend it all on Boards!

Thank you! The reason I'm up this hour is because I'm just in from my birthday party. The big 21!

Back out tomorrow for dinner, the Leinster Hurling Final and a pub crawl.

On topic: Our day would be in January wouldn't it?

Overheal

As someone said in us pol:

Erinfan wrote: »

U.S is celebrating the 234th anniverssary of its independence with prayers,speeches,fireworks and formal readings of the declaration of independence.

And if the U.S owes its independence from Irish!.

We know that 9 of the 56 signers of the famous declaration were Irish .

Between 1/3 and 1/2 of General Washington army were Irish.

George Washington said, ``When our friendless standard was first unfurled for resistance, who were the strangers who first mustered around our staff? And when it reeled in fight, who more bravely sustained it than Erin's generous sons?''

Sir Henry Clinton wrote home to London that, ``the emigrants from Ireland are our most serious opponents.''

.

some_dose

Most definitely we should be proud to celebrate our independence. Too long has there been a stupid stigmatization attached to Irish people celebrating their heritage by being called "leftists" or "Shinners". We have much to be proud of - let us celebrate it

SoulTrader

We can't have an independence day until the whole island is independent surely.

karlog

SoulTrader wrote: »

We can't have an independence day until the whole island is independent surely.

Don't we have to be invaded by aliens or something like that?

Morbo the Annihilator

karlog wrote: »

Don't we have to be invaded by aliens or something like that?

Soon. Soon.

liah

How come there was no After Hours celebratory-turned-venemously-political (well, it isn't, but it will be) thread for Canada Day?

SoulTrader

liah wrote: »

How come there was no After Hours celebratory-turned-venemously-political (well, it isn't, but it will be) thread for Canada Day?

You Canadians are too inoffensive to fight with! Happy Canada Day.

MistyCheese

WT:mad:? Star?

I haven't even gone to bed yet!

Although, as I write, (at 5:20,) it is light outside.

Holy shiiiiiit!

America: a country where people believe the moon landing is fake, but wrestling is real.

squod

Whats the date then OP? The start of the war, the truce or the evacuation of the invading forces? I reckon it should be 21st of January, others would like a date in July (better weather).

Overheal

squod wrote: »

Whats the date then OP? The start of the war, the truce or the evacuation of the invading forces? I reckon it should be 21st of January, others would like a date in July (better weather).

theres always one...

Manic Moran

squod wrote: »

Whats the date then OP? The start of the war, the truce or the evacuation of the invading forces? I reckon it should be 21st of January, others would like a date in July (better weather).

The Irish government picked Easter Sunday. You may have noticed a very large military parade a few years ago, but usually it's a smaller thing involving a reading of the Proclamation.

See
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/proclamation-for-rebirth-of-a-nation-2125380.html

NTM

PeterIanStaker

there are far too many self hating postcolonial Irish types in the media (and outside of it) for this to be discussed rationally.

omahaid

mars bar wrote: »

Thank you! The reason I'm up this hour is because I'm just in from my birthday party. The big 21!

And you can still type? :eek: Things sure are different compared to my days

orourkeda

Why should we celebrate Independence Day? We're not part of America

Why not just celebrate everything Bastille Day and the independence day in every other country too.

MagicMarker

Any excuse for a holiday.

tony1kenobi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOWdg8yq8cY

Agent Smith

6th December, 1921 Was the day the Anglo Irish treaty was Signed, so surely that date should be celibrated?



*/ opens can of worms...

Rebel021

Agent Smith wrote: »

6th December, 1921 Was the day the Anglo Irish treaty was Signed, so surely that date should be celibrated?



*/ opens can of worms...

Didn't we lose our independence with the lisbon treaty



















*/ takes lid off can of worms...

abouttobebanned

Honestly I think it's a day that the whole world should celebrate.

How many of us here took our freedom for granted? How many of us took the basic right of being able to walk down the street of our own accord, for granted.

Will smith, Bill Pullman and co. deserve this day for saving us from alien tormenters. Sure, we lost many in that horrible summer of 97 but lest we
forget what we gained that year - OUR FREEDOM!

Happy Independence day everyone!

pablomakaveli

some_dose wrote: »

Most definitely we should be proud to celebrate our independence. Too long has there been a stupid stigmatization attached to Irish people celebrating their heritage by being called "leftists" or "Shinners". We have much to be proud of - let us celebrate it

Thats probably because Shinners have hijacked a lot of that heritage for their own means. Would be nice for it to be taken back like the Rising celebrations were.

cooperguy

Rebel021 wrote: »

Didn't we lose our independence with the lisbon treaty



















*/ takes lid off can of worms...

Its the mandatory abortions I was most afraid of (and the conscription for those that survived).

alwaysadub

orourkeda wrote: »

Why should we celebrate Independence Day? We're not part of America

Why not just celebrate everything Bastille Day and the independence day in every other country too.

No, he's asking should Ireland have it's own Independence Day.

Prof.Badass

Ireland needs a new public holiday. Not a ****ty day off work thing, but a proper festival/party type thing. Base it on our independance and it'll just become a platform for politicians, who will manage to suck the life out of it and turn it into an anti-climax.......people will almost be wishing they could go back to work .

If we're going to base it on something we need to make sure the "theme" doesn't get in the way of the partying, so we'll have to choose carefully. For the date, I suggest June 21st, as 1. the summer is lacking in a proper public holiday, 2. the weather in june is probably as good as you'll get and 3. it's the longest day of the year, so it's a special date, but yet it's non-political and non-religious so everyone can join in !

I suggest the day would start off like this; Activities/general partying in city/town centers during the day (a bit like paddy's day, but better weather) and then at night massive beach parties untill the sun comes up .

caseyann

Prof.Badass wrote: »

Ireland needs a new public holiday. Not a ****ty day off work thing, but a proper festival/party type thing. Base it on our independance and it'll just become a platform for politicians, who will manage to suck the life out of it and turn it into an anti-climax.......people will almost be wishing they could go back to work .

If we're going to base it on something we need to make sure the "theme" doesn't get in the way of the partying, so we'll have to choose carefully. For the date, I suggest June 21st, as 1. the summer is lacking in a proper public holiday, 2. the weather in june is probably as good as you'll get and 3. it's the longest day of the year, so it's a special date, but yet it's non-political and non-religious so everyone can join in !

I suggest the day would start off like this; Activities/general partying in city/town centers during the day (a bit like paddy's day, but better weather) and then at night massive beach parties untill the sun comes up .

And Irish flags.With the harp only.I don't see anyone celebrating with the tri colour in their parades barr Americans.

But not going to happen.

Mars Bar

omahaid wrote: »

And you can still type? :eek: Things sure are different compared to my days

I did so much running around and talking to people, I couldn't keep a drink with me the whole time.
I have tonight to go yet though...still hope for humanity!

/ends off topic discussion. Who wants to get banned from Boards on their burfday like?!

6th of December would be handy for Christmas shopping alright. 21st January would be good for a day for shopping in the January Sales.

Elliemental

I live in the North, so I personally wouldn't benefit from it. However, I wouldn't begrudge my nieghbours in the Republic an extra holiday, so I voted in favour of it.

In all seriousness, though. Given the fact that the people here went through hell and high water to achieve thier independance from GB, I find it shocking that nothing is done to commemorate the event.

El Siglo

mars bar wrote: »

It's my birthday today so I celebrate the 4th anyway! :P

I think I saw a film about this before...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBjMYjvRtTA

Happy birthday!:D

PeterIanStaker

Elliemental wrote: »

In all seriousness, though. Given the fact that the people here went through hell and high water to achieve thier independance from GB, I find it shocking that nothing is done to commemorate the event.

see post #18

Elliemental

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

see post #18

Being English myself, do I fall under that category? I don't hate myself, or take any kind of personal responsibility for what happened in the bad old days of Empire. But I won't sweep it under the carpet and pretend it didn't happen either. I fail to see how post 18 refers to me, or what I said.

El Siglo

Elliemental wrote: »

Being English myself, do I fall under that category? I don't hate myself, or take any kind of personal responsibility for what happened in the bad old days of Empire. But I won't sweep it under the carpet and pretend it didn't happen either. I fail to see how post 18 refers to me, or what I said.

He wasn't referring to you, think of the likes of; Kevin Myers, John Waters, Bob Geldof, Conor Cruise O'Brien etc... It's these kinds of people that put out this idea that if you're republican or nationalist in anyway, you are a Shinner, backward, sectarian etc...

PeterIanStaker

Elliemental wrote: »

Being English myself, do I fall under that category? I don't hate myself, or take any kind of personal responsibility for what happened in the bad old days of Empire. But I won't sweep it under the carpet and pretend it didn't happen either. I fail to see how post 18 refers to me, or what I said.

You don't fall under that category. No offence was intended, I can assure you.

I meant the people that El Siglo mentioned - the type of Irish person who yearns to be part of an empire that was in decline 150 years ago (following the disbanding of the East India Company) but tell the rest of us, who aren't the least bit republican or nationalist, ad infinitum, to "get with the times". The type who nearly make me want to emigrate, ironically.

Elliemental

El Siglo wrote: »

He wasn't referring to you, think of the likes of; Kevin Myers, John Waters, Bob Geldof, Conor Cruise O'Brien etc... It's these kinds of people that put out this idea that if you're republican or nationalist in anyway, you are a Shinner, backward, sectarian etc...

Ah, I see! Sorry to the other poster, then. I took it the wrong way.
I didn't realise there was such a problem with this.

(Other poster being PeterIanSkater)

aDeener

Overheal wrote: »

As someone said in us pol:


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brilliant! you learn something new everyday

AckwelFoley

liah wrote: »

How come there was no After Hours celebratory-turned-venemously-political (well, it isn't, but it will be) thread for Canada Day?

I thought Canada was part of the USA?!

My bad, thanks for the geography lesson :pac:

MistyCheese

Deleted User wrote: »

America: a country where people believe the moon landing is fake, but wrestling is real.

Moon landing???

El Siglo

MistyCheese wrote: »

Moon landing???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f_DPrSEOEo

Elevator

*awaits the day the world can celebrate their independance from american interfeerance

Agent Smith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

Elevator wrote: »

*awaits the day the world can celebrate their independance from american interfeerance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgaPSAGDd0k

Thomas828

Should we celebrate Independence Day on Easter Monday when the Easter Uprising took place? When was the date when the last British troops left Dublin? And if Ireland gets its own Independence Day, what are the chances that it'll become just another excuse to go out and get blind drunk?

Flojo

Yeap we should definitely have one...we could do with another all day drinking session added to the calendar

starbelgrade

liah wrote: »

How come there was no After Hours celebratory-turned-venemously-political (well, it isn't, but it will be) thread for Canada Day?

What - do you North Americans not celebrate with the rest of them?

karlog

starbelgrade wrote: »

What - do you North Americans not celebrate with the rest of them?

Theres no such thing as 'North Americans'. Everyone knows that Americans live in the states. The rest are Canadians, Alaskans and Mexicans. Duh!!!

Sunnyisland

In my opinion we haven't got our full independence yet, as there are still 6 counties with an occupying foreign Army, untill then no celebrating.

starbelgrade

karlog wrote: »

Theres no such thing as 'North Americans'. Everyone knows that Americans live in the states. The rest are Canadians, Alaskans and Mexicans. Duh!!!

Whooooooosh.

Mars Bar

karlog wrote: »

Theres no such thing as 'North Americans'. Everyone knows that Americans live in the states. The rest are Canadians, Alaskans and Mexicans. Duh!!!

I hope you are only kidding but that gave me a genuine laugh!

And if you aren't kidding, then I'm gonna laugh harder!