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Funerals on facebook

  • 02-07-2010 9:11am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭MissMotivated


    So I was on facebook yesterday having a nose and ended up on this girls page where she had lost a 10 month old baby girl, very sad, but then I saw in her pics that she had about 50 pics of the actual funeral, from the mass, the carriage being driven along, the coffin being carried, the grave, and also which I could not believe but pics of the child dead in the coffin and being held by various people before being put in the coffin. I found it so disturbing, I like Facebook as much as the next one but is that what it's come to now that it's seen as OK to put pics of funerals and dead babies the deceased on there? I think sympathising with someone on Facebook is atrocious as it's so impersonal but this is on a whole other level!!
    Or is this me being over senisitive?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    A friend of a friend got a tattoo of her miscarriage's feet - not even far enough along that the sex could be determined so one foot was pink and the other was blue.

    obviously such feet would have been really small so she made them bigger for the tattoo so that it was more visible. :rolleyes:



    Personally, I think people ought to be ashamed for making an absolute public spectacle of death like that, particularly infant death.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    I think if someone goes through the horrendous experience of loosing a child or miscarrying then they should be able to do whatever they need to do to get over that experience. Whether that be a public declaration of their child's existence or short life - in tattoo ink, facebook or setting up a webpage for them. If the people who actually lost the children are not offended or upset then I don't see what right anyone completely unrelated to them, the child, the situation and the hurt they carry has to pass judgement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭Lynnsie


    I think if someone goes through the horrendous experience of loosing a child or miscarrying then they should be able to do whatever they need to do to get over that experience. Whether that be a public declaration of their child's existence or short life - in tattoo ink, facebook or setting up a webpage for them. If the people who actually lost the children are not offended or upset then I don't see what right anyone completely unrelated to them, the child, the situation and the hurt they carry has to pass judgement.

    +1, while I don't think I would even be able to mention something that personal on facebook and would hate the idea of people I don't know that well looking at it, for someone going through something that awful and painful it's a matter of whatever helps them and keeps them going.

    When you're grieving you have to find a way of coping and if that is hers, so be it. It might be her way of reaching out to as many people as possible for some support and help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭MissMotivated


    I'm not trying to belittle her grief or pain at all, I see alot of people starting pages now in rememberance of loved ones, I just think actual photos of the child dead or any dead loved ones being put on facebook are just not right


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    I think if someone goes through the horrendous experience of loosing a child or miscarrying then they should be able to do whatever they need to do to get over that experience. Whether that be a public declaration of their child's existence or short life - in tattoo ink, facebook or setting up a webpage for them. If the people who actually lost the children are not offended or upset then I don't see what right anyone completely unrelated to them, the child, the situation and the hurt they carry has to pass judgement.
    I agree with that sentiment but I think decency has to be considered too. Publically putting up pictures of a deceased child imho isn't in particularly good taste - the person who has died has no say in this whatsoever, and I can't think of many people who would want an image of themself put up in the public domain after they'd passed away.

    The grieving process is phenomenally difficult, and people cope in different ways, but is it really in the deceased person's interest to these photos up for all to see?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭blondie7


    i agree i think its disgusting and attention seeking to put pictures of dead people on facebook or anywhere, why would anyone want to take such photos. My dad passed away this year and the picture i have of him in my head is where he is alive, if i do want to see him i pick up old photos of happy times when he was alive not of him lying in a coffin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭Lynnsie


    I agree that the photos of the baby are too much but the girl who put them up probably isn't thinking straight at the moment. She might even regret it later when her head is a bit clearer.




  • grief is a personal journey each to there own i say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭Tordelback


    g'em wrote: »
    ...but is it really in the deceased person's interest to these photos up for all to see?

    I'd argue that deceased people have no interests any more, but their family and friends do - if it's okay with them, then whatever works is good. Funerals and all expressions of the grieving process are for the living, not the dead. Facebooked corpses are not to my taste, but if it helps someone I wouldn't quibble.

    Separately, the tattooed feet idea is very sweet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭Truley


    OP a similar thing happened to me once when I stumbled upon a friend of a friend's facebook page. Her photo albums had literally hundreds of pictures of three different babies in various poses in hospital beds, just like any photos of new born babies. And with the usual comments of aww so cute, look at his little hands etc It took a while for me to realise that each of her three babies was stillborn, I got such a shock! I do think it's very distasteful and frankly a bit upsetting considering online she was acting as if the babies were alive, so I felt almost a little 'tricked' into looking at the pics. But hey if it helped the mother cope better with her loss who am I to begrudge. I think she should have kept the pages private though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Acoshla


    I think a lot of people genuinely consider Facebook and twitter to be an actual extension of their life, I mean the amount of fb statuses I've seen saying things like "Ok well I'm in labour now, doc says 5cm dilated, any time now!" and I'm like wtf? You're in the middle of this crazy moment in your life and one of your main thoughts is I'll update my status?

    I think a lot of people think it's totally normal to document every aspect of their lives on these sites, and if that includes a funeral then up it goes onto fb. A friend of mine has refused to put up her wedding photos onto facebook, so many people have begged her to and she just says no, that they are private and if someone really wants to see them they can come to her house and look, and if they're not close enough to her to do that then they shouldn't need to see them anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭akamossy


    Well I think the pictures are a bit much really, I don't think it's right to even take pictures at a funeral never mind post them online. But in regards to the tattoo I think that's a personal thing and if that's what they wanted to remember their child then I see no harm in it at all and I definitely don't think that it's making a public spectacle out of their childs death


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 223 ✭✭pollypocket10


    Xiney wrote: »
    A friend of a friend got a tattoo of her miscarriage's feet - not even far enough along that the sex could be determined so one foot was pink and the other was blue.

    obviously such feet would have been really small so she made them bigger for the tattoo so that it was more visible. :rolleyes:



    Personally, I think people ought to be ashamed for making an absolute public spectacle of death like that, particularly infant death.

    I think you should be ashamed of belittling someones grief, and their personal way of dealing with it like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    Tordelback wrote: »
    I'd argue that deceased people have no interests any more, but their family and friends do - if it's okay with them, then whatever works is good. Funerals and all expressions of the grieving process are for the living, not the dead. Facebooked corpses are not to my taste, but if it helps someone I wouldn't quibble.

    From a personal pov, if I were to pass away I would want my friends and family to remember me at my best - I would like them to preserve memories of me full of live and vivaciousness. You're right though, grieving procedures are almost exclusively for the living but I'd still like to think that my family had the wherewithal to think about how I'd like to be remembered :)

    I know it's different where children are concerned, but (and again this is personally speaking) if I were to lose a child (or any family member or close friend) I would want to have pictures of them alive and well and remember them in that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭JohnK


    In times gone by it was very much the done thing to take photos of the dead so I dont see it as being that big an issue. A bit exhibitionist maybe but if it helps the family get through a tough time then what harm is it? Its not like any of us are being forced to look at the pictures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Quackles


    I have a friend who lost a baby at 33 weeks gestation. She has photos of herself and her husband and family cradling the baby, the baby dressed up, etc. It brings her a lot of comfort. I know that's a little different, she has no photos of her baby alive, just the stillborn ones. Still, to each their own, whatever gets you through a horrific time. I wouldn't be taking photos of a funeral, but that's just me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    g'em wrote: »
    I agree with that sentiment but I think decency has to be considered too. Publically putting up pictures of a deceased child imho isn't in particularly good taste - the person who has died has no say in this whatsoever, and I can't think of many people who would want an image of themself put up in the public domain after they'd passed away.

    The grieving process is phenomenally difficult, and people cope in different ways, but is it really in the deceased person's interest to these photos up for all to see?

    Having a wake or dead body on display for all the neighbours to come and gawk at wouldn't be my idea of tasteful or pleasant & certainly not something I'd want for me or mine but as I'm not the one dealing with the death, it's really not my call to make nor comment on other individual cases. I'd go so far as to say that now that peoples families and friends are often spread out across the world and we are in the midst of the internet age, having some kind of on-line wake or remembrance is going to become far more commonplace.

    I have no idea what you mean by the dead persons interest. They are dead, they have no conciousness, awareness or personal interests. What does still exist is the people trying to come to terms with their raw grief. I have no idea how I would react if something happened to my kids, none, my thoughts on grieving parents are, thankfully, based in complete and utter ignorance. Grief does funny things to people - if it makes someone feel better that their child has a page of remembrance, or is carried with them wherever they go as with a tattoo - who are we to judge them?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    I have no idea what you mean by the dead persons interest.
    What they would have liked. If I died I wouldn't want people seeing pictures of me dead. Fair enough, it's not something I have any control over and it certainly won't affect me, but as an alive person it's something I would request.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    g'em wrote: »
    What they would have liked. If I died I wouldn't want people seeing pictures of me dead. Fair enough, it's not something I have any control over and it certainly won't affect me, but as an alive person it's something I would request.

    I'm not following why your personal likes or dislikes should impinge on what other people wish to do...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    I think you should be ashamed of belittling someones grief, and their personal way of dealing with it like that.

    I don't think it was a particularly personal way of dealing with it, is the point.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    I'm not following why your personal likes or dislikes should impinge on what other people wish to do...

    It's not impinging, it's having respect for my wishes and because I would hope that my family would consider what I would have wanted. If I said to my Mum: "Mum, when I die I don't want a wake, I don't want to people to see me dead" I would hope that she would respect that. It's not that complex an idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    I'm not following why your personal likes or dislikes should impinge on what other people wish to do...

    g'em is saying posting pictures of a dead person takes away the possibility of consent from that person, since they're dead. I'd imagine if you asked almost anyone, "if you die tomorrow can I take photos of you and post them on the internet" they'd tell you where to go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    g'em wrote: »
    It's not impinging, it's having respect for my wishes and because I would hope that my family would consider what I would have wanted. If I said to my Mum: "Mum, when I die I don't want a wake, I don't want to people to see me dead" I would hope that she would respect that. It's not that complex an idea.

    This thread was about babies and miscarriages and how parents deal with the grief of loosing a baby...I have no idea where adults dictating what they want done with their dead bodies comes into it...it's not that complex an idea if, indeed, that's what the thread had been about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    Quackles wrote: »
    I have a friend who lost a baby at 33 weeks gestation. She has photos of herself and her husband and family cradling the baby, the baby dressed up, etc. It brings her a lot of comfort. I know that's a little different, she has no photos of her baby alive, just the stillborn ones. Still, to each their own, whatever gets you through a horrific time. I wouldn't be taking photos of a funeral, but that's just me.

    That is completely different from the OP where the baby was 10 months old and they posted 50 photos of the funeral on facebook. They probably had lots of photos of the baby alive and didn't need the photos of the baby lying dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭MissMotivated


    Well no the thread is about funerals on facebook and pictures of the people dead being displayed on facebook, the photos I saw were of a baby yes but I'm not specifically talking about miscarriages or even parents grieving, I'm just talking about pictures of the deceased being put on facebook and peoples opinions on it. I've edited my first post as this is not about babies in particular, I just can't understand how it would enter anyones head to take photos of their loved one dead and put them on facebook!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    Indeed.

    You didn't understand something so I explained it, I wasn't intending to labour a point. I don't know what it's like to lose a child, I can't even imagine the pain and grief it causes, all I can do is think about what I'd like and not like were I dead. I'm just looking at it from a different angle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    akamossy wrote: »
    Well I think the pictures are a bit much really, I don't think it's right to even take pictures at a funeral never mind post them online. But in regards to the tattoo I think that's a personal thing and if that's what they wanted to remember their child then I see no harm in it at all and I definitely don't think that it's making a public spectacle out of their childs death

    She put it in a particularly visible place. On purpose, so people would ask her about it.

    It's just the latest in a long list of attention/sympathy seeking moves by a pathological liar, as well... you'd have to know her to understand where I'm coming from I guess.


    (This is the same girl who told everyone at her school that her stepfather had abused me sexually... so I feel particularly qualified to call her a liar)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 223 ✭✭pollypocket10


    Xiney wrote: »
    I don't think it was a particularly personal way of dealing with it, is the point.

    What is public about a tattoo? TBH honest, the ":rolleyes:" you used in your original post tells me enough about your attitude.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 223 ✭✭pollypocket10


    Xiney wrote: »
    so people would ask her about it.

    Maybe she feels this is a way of making sure that the life that was lost will be remembered. What exactly is wrong with that?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    Xiney wrote: »
    g'em is saying posting pictures of a dead person takes away the possibility of consent from that person, since they're dead. I'd imagine if you asked almost anyone, "if you die tomorrow can I take photos of you and post them on the internet" they'd tell you where to go.

    I'm sure if you asked some people if they wanted the religious ceremony their parents will give them regardless of their own beliefs, the open casket at the wake they get or that their next of kin refuse the organ donation they would have wanted they would also tell you where to go. The bottom line is they are dead and it's the living that decide how to deal with that.

    A parent grieving for a young baby is slightly different to someone who has lived a full and varied life, I know a mother who lost a young baby. She often speaks about walking around feeling like their child was never here and so quickly forgotten & she has a website for her wee one that her whole family posts on and leaves messages for the baby. I can understand that & respect her decision, even if it's not the one I think I would make. I think out of complete ignorance of their situation, accusing these parents of being disrespectful or mawkish somehow when in reality the opposite is true & they are utterly distraught is completely disingenuous - and pretty nasty to boot. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    Maybe she feels this is a way of making sure that the life that was lost will be remembered. What exactly is wrong with that?

    There's nothing wrong with it, but Xiney is talking about a particular person who, from her description, may not exactly have the most innocent motives at heart. She's not for a second taking away from the grief that this girl must be feeling from losing a child, but unfortunately there are people in this world who can use the most terrible opportunities to get attention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Kooli


    I've noticed lately how my attitudes to Facebook have changed, and I think this might be an example of how we can let our privacy standards slip without even knowing it.

    When I first joined Facebook there were very few people on it, in Ireland anyway. I went to a friend's wedding, took lots of lovely photos. I was used to putting all my photos up on Facebook but my immediate response to the wedding photos was 'well, it's not my wedding, I've no right to put them up'.

    Now, four years later, it wouldn't even occur to me not to put up photos after I've been to a wedding! It only hit me recently how much my attitudes have changed, and how I no longer consider that I'm invading the couple's privacy, simply because I've become so used to it, and 'everyone does it'.

    I know that may seem off topic, but I do think that lines have been crossed with Facebook, and this is another example of it. Will there be a time when this becomes normal? (God I hope not, but I also don't think it will because even taking photos at funerals at all isn't a regular occurence).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    The bottom line is they are dead and it's the living that decide how to deal with that.
    You and I see that differently, nowt wrong with that :)
    I think out of complete ignorance of their situation, accusing these parents of being disrespectful or mawkish somehow when in reality the opposite is true & they are utterly distraught is completely disingenuous - and pretty nasty to boot. :(
    I think there are a few different things being discussed here though - I think having a website dedicated to a lost one is wonderful, posting messages to them and keeping their memory alive is a beautiful thing and I don't think anyone has said that that is a disrespectful thing to do at all.

    Posting up photos of a funeral and of the dead baby or person however is a little too much for me.


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    I would be deeply upset by the idea of anyone taking a photograph, at one of my loved ones funeral service.

    But in the case of a still born baby, the funeral service is all the parents get.
    They aren't just chronicling a death, they are preserving the memory that there was a life and a loss there.

    Having listened to the type of dismissive comments that some people feel the need to make, in response to losses like these.
    I can understand why a parent might want that kind of acknowledgement for their lost child.


    Yes the facebook pictures are in bad taste, but it is in even worse taste, to feel the need to judge a person for their grieving process.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    g'em wrote: »
    You and I see that differently, nowt wrong with that :)

    It's more how the law views it than I do, tbh...

    g'em wrote: »
    I think there are a few different things being discussed here though - I think having a website dedicated to a lost one is wonderful, posting messages to them and keeping their memory alive is a beautiful thing and I don't think anyone has said that that is a disrespectful thing to do at all.

    Posting up photos of a funeral and of the dead baby or person however is a little too much for me.

    Well, it's a bit much for me too but what would horrify me post-mortem someone else may like or one of my grieving relatives may want or need. It's past the point of bothering me at that stage. Look, if it was infant cadavers posed with a stradavarius in a mini ferrari I'd be in complete agreement with you. Pictures in a wee outfit, with mum & dad/grandparents that someone rooting around in complete nosiness on facebook has come across and has trawled thru claiming offence - not so much.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    Oh, I just don't know at all. While personally I wouldn't take photographs during the funeral of someone I love (or of anybody), I wouldn't look down on anyone who did. I'm all about remembering the moments in my life that are the most significant, and the passing away of a child, well, that's huge.

    I do understand why someone would want to cherish the very last moments they are ever going to have with someone who was an important part of their life. It's difficult being at a funeral and knowing that it's the very end. It's so final. You walk away from that grave, and that's it.

    It shouldn't be frowned upon to want to photograph a funeral, imho. The way I see it is a funeral is a celebration of the life of the deceased. Of course they're sad, and heart-breaking but they can also be pretty beautiful, I think.

    It's not exactly anyones place to judge how a parent deals with losing a child. Grief is different for everyone, and I do think grieving for a child has to be one of the worst kinds. As a parent, you have made a whole other life. You have a tiny person that is all yours, created by you. It's powerful. Losing that is not something to be undermined. If a woman (or a man) wants a tattoo in memory of a child that she (he) has lost, I see no problem with that, or where she (he) puts it.

    And on the actual topic, putting the photographs on Facebook? Different strokes for different folks. Not something I'd do because I like to deal with things on my own, but for a lot of people, I understand there is a tendency for a deceased baby to never be spoken about, so I get it, from the perspective of keeping the memory alive. It has got to be difficult to think that you're the only one who remembers and cherishes your childs life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭MissMotivated


    As I've already said I am not belittling anyones grief, people seem to have decided this is a thread slating how a mother grieves for her child, it is nothing to do with that, the pics I saw happened to be of a child but I am asking about peoples opinions on photos of deceased people being put on facebook whether it be a child or a 90 year old man, I never once mentioned anything about a grieving mother


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭akamossy


    Xiney wrote: »
    She put it in a particularly visible place. On purpose, so people would ask her about it.

    It's just the latest in a long list of attention/sympathy seeking moves by a pathological liar, as well... you'd have to know her to understand where I'm coming from I guess.


    (This is the same girl who told everyone at her school that her stepfather had abused me sexually... so I feel particularly qualified to call her a liar)

    I'm sorry that I don't share your opinion but I think what you are saying is wrong and whether or not you have experience of her being a liar has no bearing whatsoever on the topic in hand.

    I myself lost my baby 3 years ago and I have considered many ways in which to honour my baby's memory including getting a tattoo.. now I haven't gotten in but if I decided to put it in a visible place it wouldn't be because I'm attention seeking or looking for sympathy. It would be for myself and it would be completely upto me where I put it just like it was up to this woman.

    I get you don't agree with it but I don't think you should be berating her for it because you don't like her or have had a bad experience with her. That is really not the point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    As I've already said I am not belittling anyones grief, people seem to have decided this is a thread slating how a mother grieves for her child, it is nothing to do with that, the pics I saw happened to be of a child but I am asking about peoples opinions on photos of deceased people being put on facebook whether it be a child or a 90 year old man, I never once mentioned anything about a grieving mother

    I wasn't responding to you exactly, sorry. The whole thread in general was focusing on the death of a child, which was why I did. My feelings remain the same regardless. People can grieve however they want, and I have every respect for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭MissMotivated


    Novella wrote: »
    I wasn't responding to you exactly, sorry. The whole thread in general was focusing on the death of a child, which was why I did. My feelings remain the same regardless. People can grieve however they want, and I have every respect for them.


    Oh yeah that wasn't just for you I was kind of directing that at everyone, people seem to think that I'm slating a grieving mother when in fact I just want to know would anyone reading this actually put pics of their deceased loved ones on Facebook?
    I'm well aware people grieve in their own way I just never though putting the pics of the dead person on Facebook would be one of them. I have no issue with the tattoos at all I know loads of people who have loved ones names tattooed on and I think that is a nice way to remember them


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭Kimia


    I can see both sides really. It makes me slightly uncomfortable to think about dead babies being posted on FB, but also I can see how the mother/father may wish to grieve like that.

    Also, FB is a way to keep in touch with people who are abroad/may not be able to get home for the funeral so maybe that's a reason for it too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭MissMotivated


    Kimia wrote: »
    I can see both sides really. It makes me slightly uncomfortable to think about dead babies being posted on FB, but also I can see how the mother/father may wish to grieve like that.

    Also, FB is a way to keep in touch with people who are abroad/may not be able to get home for the funeral so maybe that's a reason for it too?

    Maybe it is a reason.
    That's the thing it's the idea of pictures of dead people on facebook that makes me uneasy, even if I hadn't seen them and someone had mentioned it to me I find the idea of it just shocking. I just find it quite unbelievable. But then I also don't think it's ok to sympathise with someone on facebook or through text, I suppose I don't think anything about death should be dealt with in such an impersonal way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭Ruby-J


    I have to disagree with OP,

    having lost one of my twin nieces recently, both myself and my sister posted a picture of both twins. The twin who is alive and in the ICU and the other twin we laid to rest. We felt it important for our friends and family to see just how beautiful both the girls are. For some of our closest friends and family would never ever have got to see the little angel we laid to rest so i think its nice to share the picture.

    However I wouldnt share the pictures of the funeral as it was close family only.

    Just my few cents...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭i.need.a.job


    Xiney wrote: »
    A friend of a friend got a tattoo of her miscarriage's feet - not even far enough along that the sex could be determined so one foot was pink and the other was blue.

    obviously such feet would have been really small so she made them bigger for the tattoo so that it was more visible. :rolleyes:



    Personally, I think people ought to be ashamed for making an absolute public spectacle of death like that, particularly infant death.


    i dont see anything wrong with that. it is s nice way of remembering. i have my grandmothers initials on my wrist, are you telling my i should be ashamed of it? when some one dies should we forget all about them?

    when you go to church are you ashamed to see jesus on the cross? death is celebrated in many different ways, i dont think you should pass judgement on other people. each to their own....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    I don't think I have a problem with people taking pictures of funerals, people take pictures of every event of their lives, why not the passing of a loved one? As long as they are not intrusive like shoving a camera into grieving peoples faces. My very own funeral will have black horses and a New Orleans jazz band, it is going to cost a lot of money so I hope it is preserved well and published in Time Magazine :)
    As for corpses, well, as long as its not a rotting or dismembered body, but a final shot of their peaceful looking vessel then I think it is ok.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It wouldn't be something that I would personally choose to do, but then, there are lots of things I wouldn't choose to do.

    As much as I would understand to a certain extent (more than most infact) what the mother was going through, I would never fully understand it because every person, every child, every emotion is different. Noone should be judged for how they choose to grieve. Noone will ever fully understand what was going through that poor girls head when she had to lay her little girl to rest. Noone.

    To be honest, I would be more concerned that the OP was "nosing" around facebook and thought it appropriate to "nose" through a child's funeral. But that's just me. If I did personally choose to put those type of pics up on facebook, I would ensure that only friends would see them, not strangers who would judge me and talk about it on boards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭MissMotivated


    It wouldn't be something that I would personally choose to do, but then, there are lots of things I wouldn't choose to do.

    As much as I would understand to a certain extent (more than most infact) what the mother was going through, I would never fully understand it because every person, every child, every emotion is different. Noone should be judged for how they choose to grieve. Noone will ever fully understand what was going through that poor girls head when she had to lay her little girl to rest. Noone.

    To be honest, I would be more concerned that the OP was "nosing" around facebook and thought it appropriate to "nose" through a child's funeral. But that's just me. If I did personally choose to put those type of pics up on facebook, I would ensure that only friends would see them, not strangers who would judge me and talk about it on boards.

    I didn't realise it was a childs funeral until after a few pics as the first few pics were of the child alive. I am friends with a relative of hers and ended up on her page. If people don't want their photos or pages viewed they should have them private which the woman did not have, facebook is a social network far from a private network unless made so by the owner of the page. By nose I meant having a look just like all the other millions of users of Facebook.
    And I have never once condemned the mother, I just said I find it shocking. Most people replying have taken it upon themselves to decide this thread is specifically about babies and grieving mothers and losing children when it is not at all.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You essentially said it was another level from being attrocious.

    I agree that if you don't want people looking at the pics then you shouldn't have them publicly up for everyone to see, I'm with you on that one. But then if you disagree with something, why continue looking through 50 photographs before deciding to post a thread about it on boards. I just don't get it that's all.

    I'll tell you something though, if facebook had been around 7 years ago (maybe it was :pac:) and my news had gotten around the place quickly as a result, it may well have enabled me to avoid comments such as "where are the kids today" and "ah day off today is it" which obviously resulted in me having to explain everything for the 9 millionth time.

    Maybe she just wanted the world to know what she had lost. I agree with moonbaby, maybe she'll regret her decision when she has time to reflect, but hopefully people having negative opinions will not allow that reflection to be influenced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭MissMotivated


    You essentially said it was another level from being attrocious.

    I agree that if you don't want people looking at the pics then you shouldn't have them publicly up for everyone to see, I'm with you on that one. But then if you disagree with something, why continue looking through 50 photographs before deciding to post a thread about it on boards. I just don't get it that's all.

    I'll tell you something though, if facebook had been around 7 years ago (maybe it was :pac:) and my news had gotten around the place quickly as a result, it may well have enabled me to avoid comments such as "where are the kids today" and "ah day off today is it" which obviously resulted in me having to explain everything for the 9 millionth time.

    Maybe she just wanted the world to know what she had lost. I agree with moonbaby, maybe she'll regret her decision when she has time to reflect, but hopefully people having negative opinions will not allow that reflection to be influenced.

    I posted on boards to get peoples opinions which is one of the main purposes of Boards. I thought maybe I was being backward and oversensitive in thinking it shouldn't be done but to be honest I don't think I am, I can't help it if I find pics of a dead baby on the internet for all to see shocking!! Maybe times are changing so much that this is what will be done from now on but I don't think it's ever something I'll ever understand and that's my opinion negative or otherwise


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    If you think people posting respectful photos of their own children on their own facebook page is shocking, you are probably best avoiding the rest of the 'net.


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