new world order!!

davemc180

i tink dis is mad and the more i look into it the more i relize how many world leaders are involved..

check this out its denver airport

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjjIy1DO0gs

there no need to have huge storage rooms with strange sprinklers in the roof ( gas chambers )

amacachi

New World Order? Never heard of it.

PirateShampoo

So im safe just as long i dont have a connecting flight from Denver?

davemc180

its supposedly a new world goverment who plan to reduce the world population to a certain siza and jus have 1 combined nation..

theres signs of it every where the symbol is the all seeing eye..

look at the airport for example why would it have miles and miles of under ground chambers?

Sparticle

OP needs to learn how to scroll down the thread page.

caseyann

Why would such a thing be painted in a public area for transport,I found that disturbing and sick.

Anyone who doesn't believe government would murder billions of people for their own ends is delusional.

Torakx

It cant happen anyway because someone said "never again"....... the imaginary rules people live by eh.

humanji

caseyann wrote: »

Why would such a thing be painted in a public area for transport,I found that disturbing and sick.

Anyone who doesn't believe government would murder billions of people for their own ends is delusional.

Anyone who believes governments must murder billions of people is delusional.

caseyann

humanji wrote: »

Anyone who believes governments must murder billions of people is delusional.

Who said they must,i said they would murder billions for their own ends.Big difference there is no must.They would just for power money and control.

Do you really live for yourself?

davemc180

humanji wrote: »

Anyone who believes governments must murder billions of people is delusional.

honestly its not as if im sitting in my house paronoid but ya have to admit its a bit strange..

why the paintings and why the miles underground chambers?

caseyann

davemc180 wrote: »

honestly its not as if im sitting in my house paronoid but ya have to admit its a bit strange..

why the paintings and why the miles underground chambers?

These underground places are popping up all over the place.Perhaps in Guatemala there is one under ground also,and that is why they now have sink hole made the ground un stable.
Why spend so much money on these underground tunnels and facilities if there is no real use for them.
How many bomb shelters do the government have?
Isn't there one in mountains of wicklow or something for our fat cats?

Penn

caseyann wrote: »

Isn't there one in mountains of wicklow or something for our fat cats?

Are you thinking of Turlough Hill? It's a hydroelectricity station.

humanji

caseyann wrote: »

Who said they must,i said they would murder billions for their own ends.Big difference there is no must.They would just for power money and control.

But are you assuming they will? That's why people but credence in the nonsense video in the OP. It's making huge assumptions based on nothing more than a hunch.

davemc180 wrote: »

honestly its not as if im sitting in my house paronoid but ya have to admit its a bit strange..

why the paintings and why the miles underground chambers?

I don't know. Have you asked them? As I said, the guys who made the video are leaping to conclusions without even questioning their validity. It's insanity.

caseyann

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

Are you thinking of Turlough Hill? It's a hydroelectricity station.

No thats not it thanks though

caseyann

humanji wrote: »

But are you assuming they will? That's why people but credence in the nonsense video in the OP. It's making huge assumptions based on nothing more than a hunch.


I don't know. Have you asked them? As I said, the guys who made the video are leaping to conclusions without even questioning their validity. It's insanity.

How do you find the truth of something,through assumption.Nes pas?

humanji

Reason, logic and common sense. I don't create an answer and modify the evidence to prove me right, as has happened in that video.

caseyann

humanji wrote: »

Reason, logic and common sense. I don't create an answer and modify the evidence to prove me right, as has happened in that video.

But who told you what reason logic and common sense are it is a molded idea created by your education and government.

humanji

caseyann wrote: »

But who told you what reason logic and common sense are it is a molded idea created by your education and government.

No, it's a self taught ability inherit in all animals. Schools only give you information. Through our own experience we learn what information is useful and how it can/should be used.

caseyann

humanji wrote: »

No, it's a self taught ability inherit in all animals. Schools only give you information. Through our own experience we learn what information is useful and how it can/should be used.

Your mind is molded to the ideas of society you live in and you follow all their guide lines and rules you grow up with the teachings of those and the logic they instilled in you.You take the information they provide you and you choose which one to use and should be used because they told you to.
If you lived in a forest free of all schooling and their logic and their teaching you would think how you think?

humanji

caseyann wrote: »

Your mind is molded to the ideas of society you live in and you follow all their guide lines and rules you grow up with the teachings of those and the logic they instilled in you.You take the information they provide you and you choose which one to use and should be used because they told you to.
If you lived in a forest free of all schooling and their logic and their teaching you would think how you think?

You'd think the same when confronted with the same information. Experience will teach you how to interpret that information adn refine your learnign abilities.

uprising2

humanji wrote: »

Anyone who believes governments must murder billions of people is delusional.

humanji, governments have killed billions already, not in one go and not one govt, but should a leader of any nation get up the nose of another it's the population that suffer.
When Saddam got on the wrong side of GHWB, how many Iraqi's died up till the point he was hung?, governments don't give a damn about people, blanket bombings, atomic bombs etc weren't devised to spare the innocent.

Governments are cowards and I actually have more respect for a leader who is willing to fight the fight than one who get's his lackies/idiots to do the fighting for him while he relax's on the other side of the world talking tough words.

Torakx

Logic and reason tells me that what supposedly happened in germany and poland etc(holocaust) can easily supposedly happen again.
There is absolutely no reason why it cant and wont that i can see.Already so many are being murdered for profit and oil etc etc.
Im not saying it is going to happen.I only accept its likely it can happen again at any time in our future.And seeing a mural for a paradise after killing loads of people or loads of people dying in a newly built airport with miles of underground tunnels with air/water piping running through it makes me think either its a sign in the open because its possibly too late to stop.A disaster is coming we cant stop.Or that they are trying to scare people into believing the all powerful new world order are looming over us and we should panic and give up our freedoms for self preservation when the call is made.
The latter makes more sense but who knows...i dont.

humanji

But it's the gross generalisation of all governments that I'm pointing out, and the assumption that these things must happen.

caseyann

humanji wrote: »

You'd think the same when confronted with the same information. Experience will teach you how to interpret that information adn refine your learnign abilities.

I have grown up in the same society as you as also the other cters have,but i choose to look past what they offer me as information and see the information they aren't giving us and looking for the proof of that.
If the proof was handed to you in documents etc.. you would shut your mind down and because the government or the media haven't told you this is true and its fact you wont believe it.You would need to be sitting right in the middle of a conference of the plans for new world order.Only way you can accept logic or fact or relay common sense is if they hand it to you on a plate.
No harm in keeping the mind open and not been gullible for the people who dictate your life to you everyday just because you know nothing else.
Look into the countries where mass genocide happen,and their citizens accept it because they have given them the logic and the reason why they are doing it,and then they back their government completely.That's control and brain washing.

humanji

Actually, I'd have said I was a lot more open minded that most CT'er as I don't assume that my current beliefs must be true. I've taken all the evidence I can and reasoned what the most logical answer is. If I find something that will change my mind, then my mind will be changed. But has there ever been proof positive that the NWO even exists? No, there's just hearsay and conjecture. Flimsy bits of evidence that if you even cast a casual glance over, you'll realise isn't actually evidence of anything. Do you, or others ever stop to think that maybe you're wrong? That mayber the world is just a random mess? Or are you blinkered into believing that you must be right and there could not possibly by an alternative?

caseyann

humanji wrote: »

Actually, I'd have said I was a lot more open minded that most CT'er as I don't assume that my current beliefs must be true. I've taken all the evidence I can and reasoned what the most logical answer is. If I find something that will change my mind, then my mind will be changed. But has there ever been proof positive that the NWO even exists? No, there's just hearsay and conjecture. Flimsy bits of evidence that if you even cast a casual glance over, you'll realise isn't actually evidence of anything. Do you, or others ever stop to think that maybe you're wrong? That mayber the world is just a random mess? Or are you blinkered into believing that you must be right and there could not possibly by an alternative?

I can say same to you prove it wrong,is there anyway you can be wrong,How many cults etc.. decades ago were hidden and only by hear say and protected by the rich?

http://mamajustice.blogspot.com/2007/06/video-illuminati-demonic-cabal.html

How long was the pedophille priests hidden from view and protected and not just in Ireland.
How many government officals and bankers are locked up for fraud and bribery etc... and the list goes on and on.
They are above the law because they make the laws and use the catholic church and the seat of power to make the rules and make you follow them.

humanji

But that's the thing. I don't assume I'm right. I simply refuse to assume something is true because someone on the internet made a shoddy youtube video. I weigh up all information available, investigate the validity of it, and then decide what it is that seems the most likely answer. But even then I'm willing to change that opinion. I don't stick ridgetly to it.

Torakx

caseyann wrote: »

I can say same to you prove it wrong,is there anyway you can be wrong,How many cults etc.. decades ago were hidden and only by hear say and protected by the rich?

http://mamajustice.blogspot.com/2007/06/video-illuminati-demonic-cabal.html

How long was the pedophille priests hidden from view and protected and not just in Ireland.

Pedophille priests? That could be hearsay also.I dont know if anyone has found dna evidence that children have been abused by priests ever...(sarcasm ofc)
On the NWO there is plenty of evidence to show that a conglomerate are working together to further their power and control on a global scale.That is enough to worry me full stop.
Now if anything else on top of that is true with all these conspiracies and we know alot are with the banking industry and politics,then it doest appear naive to believe their is a concerted effort to create a one world global system of government based on the experiments on the soviets,chinese,americans and probably rest of europe for the democratic rule experiment.
Add that all together and follow where and who all these bussiness men meet and work with and it paints an ugly picture when you take a few steps back and see what is there.
Of course linking them all with a solid paper trail isnt realistic considering if they are up to no good they will be covering their tracks.

Heres a guy iwas pointed to today who talks about history and his views onit also.
Its quite informative.I recommend watching parts 2 and 3 also.What he talks about resonates well with a book i have been reading on the secret history of the world.Except he keeps it less about mmyth and ancient greece and rome and more about ww1 upwards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASODMKCJcsk

Dont be off put because of the media in which this man puts forward his views.Just listen to his view of history and think about the bigger picture he is talking about.

caseyann

humanji wrote: »

But that's the thing. I don't assume I'm right. I simply refuse to assume something is true because someone on the internet made a shoddy youtube video. I weigh up all information available, investigate the validity of it, and then decide what it is that seems the most likely answer. But even then I'm willing to change that opinion. I don't stick ridgetly to it.

Ofc i wouldnt go by a youtube video,i go by all the unanswered questions the poverty that never seems to go away and the secrets that come out more and more.If those people who didnt step forward just that one the first time,it wouldnt have given the others the courage to come forward.and we would be none the wiser.We need some of them to pop out of the wood work.Back in the day they would have been called insane and locked up or liars and shunned.

caseyann

Torakx wrote: »

Pedophille priests? That could be hearsay also.I dont know if anyone has found dna evidence that children have been abused by priests ever...(sarcasm ofc)
On the NWO there is plenty of evidence to show that a conglomerate are working together to further their power and control on a global scale.That is enough to worry me full stop.
Now if anything else on top of that is true with all these conspiracies and we know alot are with the banking industry and politics,then it doest appear naive to believe their is a concerted effort to create a one world global system of government based on the experiments on the soviets,chinese,americans and probably rest of europe for the democratic rule experiment.
Add that all together and follow where and who all these bussiness men meet and work with and it paints an ugly picture when you take a few steps back and see what is there.
Of course linking them all with a solid paper trail isnt realistic considering if they are up to no good they will be covering their tracks.

Heres a guy iwas pointed to today who talks about history and his views onit also.
Its quite informative.I recommend watching parts 2 and 3 also.What he talks about resonates well with a book i have been reading on the secret history of the world.Except he keeps it less about mmyth and ancient greece and rome and more about ww1 upwards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASODMKCJcsk

Dont be off put because of the media in which this man puts forward his views.Just listen to his view of history and think about the bigger picture he is talking about.

Ofc lol.If they can hide that much information what else have they hidden from the public to protect their ideas and plans and it is most certainly not to benefit us for better lives,it is wealth and industry growth and power for them only.
I cant see the video Torakx can you give me the link thanks.:)

I found this interesting also,I heard someone say once.They keep the poor and middle class as they are so they have no choice or sense but to follow.
http://freeliberal.com/articles/12128/how-the-poor-vote-themselves-into-poverty

humanji

caseyann wrote: »

Ofc i wouldnt go by a youtube video,i go by all the unanswered questions the poverty that never seems to go away and the secrets that come out more and more.If those people who didnt step forward just that one the first time,it wouldnt have given the others the courage to come forward.and we would be none the wiser.We need some of them to pop out of the wood work.Back in the day they would have been called insane and locked up or liars and shunned.

Ah, see that's the thing. They are unanswered questions. That's the thing. You need to find the information and answer the questions to the best of your ability and then you'll be better informed, instead of letting someone else tell you what the answer must be.

And here's the link to Torakx's video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASODMKCJcsk&feature=player_embedded

Sparticle

Unanswered questions does not give anyone the right to madly speculate with no thoughts for the possible repercussions of their baseless accusations. Hundreds of children died from preventable diseases when confidence was lost in the MMR vaccine because of mad speculation.

Torakx

Sparticle wrote: »

Unanswered questions does not give anyone the right to madly speculate with no thoughts for the possible repercussions of their baseless accusations. Hundreds of children died from preventable diseases when confidence was lost in the MMR vaccine because of mad speculation.

Im still skeptical about babies getting vaccines.
I heard somewhere that a babies immune system is limited and damaged when they are forced to fight an infectionso early in life while their immune system is still forming and strengthening itself.
Id like to see that verified of course but with vacinnes i am on the fence with advice and wouldnt touch them with a barge pole for myself at this age.
This is partly why i wouldnt like to have kids.
There is a government hat constantly lies to us telling me ye give your kids these injections.
And another side saying its bad for their helth.
Id appreciate a Ct thread on this topic to actually get the real answer.Maybe both are right and these diseases are just unfortunate.

Sparticle

Torakx wrote: »

Im still skeptical about babies getting vaccines.
I heard somewhere that a babies immune system is limited and damaged when they are forced to fight an infectionso early in life while their immune system is still forming and strengthening itself.
Id like to see that verified of course but with vacinnes i am on the fence with advice and wouldnt touch them with a barge pole for myself at this age.
This is partly why i wouldnt like to have kids.
There is a government hat constantly lies to us telling me ye give your kids these injections.
And another side saying its bad for their helth.
Id appreciate a Ct thread on this topic to actually get the real answer.Maybe both are right and these diseases are just unfortunate.

I don't trust the government on any scientific issue because they are swayed by public opinion rather than hard data(GM crops + Nuclear power for example). When it comes to any anti-vaccine argument they all fail when it comes to raw data and evidence.

We are starting to veer off topic.

Di0genes

Torakx wrote: »

Im still skeptical about babies getting vaccines.
I heard somewhere that a babies immune system is limited and damaged when they are forced to fight an infectionso early in life while their immune system is still forming and strengthening itself.
Id like to see that verified of course but with vacinnes i am on the fence with advice and wouldnt touch them with a barge pole for myself at this age.
This is partly why i wouldnt like to have kids.
There is a government hat constantly lies to us telling me ye give your kids these injections.
And another side saying its bad for their helth.
Id appreciate a Ct thread on this topic to actually get the real answer.Maybe both are right and these diseases are just unfortunate.

Okay heres a simple way of working this out.

Look at infant mortality before smallpox and chicken pox vaccines. Look at infant mortality afterwards. Simples.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_mortality#Infant_mortality_throughout_history

Incase you haven't worked it out that in the last 50 years infant morality has declined massively.

Torakx

Yes i accounted for this also in my comment.What i mean by that is i accept vaccinnes may have helped get rid of small pox if they werent created in the first place.
It doesnt change that i think its possible the vaccinnes COULD be harmfull to a babies immune systems development.
But yes we are heading away from new world order and more towards government lies or truths.

Brown Bomber

Okay heres a simple way of working this out.

Look at infant mortality India's population growth before smallpox and chicken pox vaccines. Look at infant mortality afterwards. Simples.



Incase you haven't worked it out that in the last 50 years infant morality India's birth rate has declined increased massively.

Or...............Maybe they are unrelated???

davemc180

its not just the airport theres places like that all over the world and all have the new world order symbol which is the all seeing eye.. its even on the dollar bill like..

the fact of the matter is its all only hear say and everyone has there opinion but the more you look into it the more it stands out..

sure werent there talks released a year ago about a coallition army been created in the near future formed by america britain and most un states..??

that could be the start of it like...

and like wat was said befor we all wouldn agree withn genocide but if we were told we had to go to war tomor to protect ireland from any treat made big enough by the media 90 per cent of the male population under 30 would go garanteed without tinking twice..

Sparticle

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Okay heres a simple way of working this out.

Look at infant mortality India's population growth before smallpox and chicken pox vaccines. Look at infant mortality afterwards. Simples.



Incase you haven't worked it out that in the last 50 years infant morality India's birth rate has declined increased massively.

Or...............Maybe they are unrelated???

Wait what? I keep re-reading this and i'm still baffled.

coco0981

Sparticle wrote: »

Wait what? I keep re-reading this and i'm still baffled.

Thanks, i thought it was just me. Can't understand what point he is trying to make

coco0981

Sparticle wrote: »

Wait what? I keep re-reading this and i'm still baffled.

Thanks, i thought it was just me. Can't understand what point he is trying to make

coco0981

Sparticle wrote: »

Wait what? I keep re-reading this and i'm still baffled.

Thanks, i thought it was just me. Can't understand what point he is trying to make

Torakx

kind of obvious what he is pointing too.. are you all being sarcastic? maybe im naive and missed it lol
If you dont agree you could say why.

coco0981

Sparticle wrote: »

Wait what? I keep re-reading this and i'm still baffled.

Thanks, i thought it was just me. Can't understand what point he is trying to make

coco0981

not sure why my post appeared 4 times only posted it once???

Anyway not being sarcastic but i honestly don't get the poin he was trying to make, maybe i'm just having a slow night

Torakx

Sorry my bad then i am too used to sarcastic people here
What i got out of that post about india was that he was saying or more like asking, is it possible those numbers about deaths in children are affected because of higher birth rates in these modern times compared to back when those things were killing so many people.
Like the way you can scew the results of a study by applying it to certain areas at certain times to show a point that may or may not be the case in reality.

caseyann

davemc180 wrote: »

its not just the airport theres places like that all over the world and all have the new world order symbol which is the all seeing eye.. its even on the dollar bill like..

the fact of the matter is its all only hear say and everyone has there opinion but the more you look into it the more it stands out..

sure werent there talks released a year ago about a coallition army been created in the near future formed by america britain and most un states..??

that could be the start of it like...

and like wat was said befor we all wouldn agree withn genocide but if we were told we had to go to war tomor to protect ireland from any treat made big enough by the media 90 per cent of the male population under 30 would go garanteed without tinking twice..

Under guise of protecting genocide committed.

mysterious

The NWO was announced on septemeber 11th 1990 and 1991 By George W.Bush. You just can't get more obvious than that.:pac:

Oh wait it was cavemen who plotted 9/11 with box cutters knives and they are creating the NWO, wait now whats going on now that I haven't looked into much?:D

Now because of all these "terrorists" we have a 9/11 attack strangely enough on the same day to be exact 11 years later when the NWO was originally announced. But no no, Our almighty powers of be wouldn't never of put this together. But we must not get the facts get in the way of "fire breathing terrorists in Aghanistan".

Let's ignore the facts the elites even ignored Afghanistan and went into Iraq instead. Mad planet we are on I tell's ya. People will believe everything government's tell them, even if it's plain stupid.

humanji

mysterious wrote: »

The NWO was announced on septemeber 11th 1990 and 1991 By George W.Bush. You just can't get more obvious than that.:pac:

Oh wait it was cavemen who plotted 9/11 with box cutters knives and they are creating the NWO, wait now whats going on now that I haven't looked into much?:D

Now because of all these "terrorists" we have a 9/11 attack strangely enough on the same day to be exact 11 years later when the NWO was originally announced. But no no, Our almighty powers of be wouldn't never of put this together. But we must not get the facts get in the way of "fire breathing terrorists in Aghanistan".

Let's ignore the facts the elites even ignored Afghanistan and went into Iraq instead. Mad planet we are on I tell's ya. People will believe everything government's tell them, even if it's plain stupid.

Well cavemen is a better theory than lizard folk, but nobody has claimed either.

It must be a wonderful black and white world you live in where you think people can either believe the NWO was behind everything taht's gone wrong, or that all governments must be happy clappy groups who only want what's best for everyone. There is a fair bit of a middle ground, you know.

mysterious

humanji wrote: »

Well cavemen is a better theory than lizard folk, but nobody has claimed either.

It must be a wonderful black and white world you live in where you think people can either believe the NWO was behind everything taht's gone wrong, or that all governments must be happy clappy groups who only want what's best for everyone. There is a fair bit of a middle ground, you know.

Sure a few Afghanistani caveman are here to bring the NWO they probably mind control the cia and the head of the CIA George Walker Bush (who is a reppie) and they are so powerful that even the fearsome plastic knives can take over New york Aerospace.

Ya Humanji, it's soo amazing what people believe.;)

Your an interiesting character when it comes to the obvious as you block thigns out to suit comforting beliefs about the world.

Oh and BTW I don't have belief's!:cool:

humanji

mysterious wrote: »

Sure a few Afghanistani caveman are here to bring the NWO they probably mind control the cia and the head of the CIA George Walker Bush (who is a reppie) and they are so powerful that even the fearsome plastic knives can take over New york Aerospace.

Ya Humanji, it's soo amazing what people believe.;)

Your an interiesting character when it comes to the obvious as you block thigns out to suit comforting beliefs about the world.

Oh and BTW I don't have belief's!:cool:

Aren't you the one with the closed mind, refusing to accept the possibility of being wrong? I keep my options open.