Buying Smokes Online - Threads Merged

BeerNut

reverenddave wrote: »

didn't have to pay customs as they come from spain

That's not why you didn't pay excise on them. You just didn't get caught.

siobhan.murphy

I thought if you bought within th e u you werent liable for duty

BeerNut

siobhan.murphy wrote: »

I thought if you bought within th e u you werent liable for duty

Only if you physically transport the goods yourself. Here are the rules.

dollyk

Captain Morgan wrote: »

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ha ha check the date, who would have thought it .



opps sorry it was 2005

Condatis

Two questions:

If I receive small quantities of pipe tobacco from within the EU for my own use will I be liable for duties if it's spotted in the mail?

I don't use a credit card and can't find a UK site that accepts laser or PayPal, would anybody know of one.

BeerNut

Condatis wrote: »

If I receive small quantities of pipe tobacco from within the EU for my own use will I be liable for duties if it's spotted in the mail?

Yes, unless you've arranged to pay the duty in advance and have the relevant paperwork from Revenue.

Condatis

I only want 100 grams at a time. VAT and Duty is paid already in the EU. How does this fit in with the concept of a single market?

BeerNut

Condatis wrote: »

How does this fit in with the concept of a single market?

It allows for differing excise regimes in different countries. If the barriers on exciseable goods didn't exist, everyone would just buy their wine straight from France where it's duty free, destroying the wine market everywhere else. All freedoms are limited.

So, European customs law says that excise on excisable goods -- booze and fags -- is payable in the country of destination, so you can't dodge the tax you would be due to pay if you bought them at home. In keeping with the free movement of goods and services, however, if you're transporting your own personal stash of booze and fags you don't have to pay local excise duty when you cross the border from one member state to another.

Getting tobacco sent in the post effectively makes you an importer, with all the red tape that comes with cross-border trade in exciseable goods. The amount is irrelevant, and if you're doing it by the book you shouldn't be paying VAT and duty in the country of purchase.

Scotty #

Condatis wrote: »

If I receive small quantities of pipe tobacco from within the EU for my own use will I be liable for duties if it's spotted in the mail?

Have a friend in Bulgaria who regularly sends me 200-400 cigs as payment for some web work I do for him. Never had any problems.

emmet the rover

is it much of a pain sorting out the paperwork for the revenue? i was thinking of getting some various pipe tobbaccos trought the post as well. but if it involves lots of hassle i recon i would prob be better off going to holland or germany with a empty case.

then i guess i would have to prove it was all for personal use....

noelpat

Hello folks,

I'm just wondering how many of you buy cigarettes and tobacco online?
Do you have any links to sites you can vouch for?
I'm thinking about trying it out if I can get some good deals, but I'm worried about getting a good deal and then been made pay through the nose for it! (by the government)

Thanks in advance.

The Hill Billy

Search for the term 'online' in this forum.

Fromthetrees

Is online the way to go so? I need the saving as I'm always broke. I would pick smoking over food btw.

BeerNut

emmet the rover wrote: »

is it much of a pain sorting out the paperwork for the revenue?

I glanced at it once and it certainly looked it. There's lots that the person you're buying from has to do.

emmet the rover wrote: »

i would prob be better off going to holland or germany with a empty case.

then i guess i would have to prove it was all for personal use....

Yeah. It's a tough one too as one of the tests for cigarette smugglers is whether there are different brands. A pipe smoker is probably going to want lots of different brands. You could always hope they don't believe a smuggler would ever make money flogging black market tobacco to pipe smokers

The no-questions-asked limit is 1kg. Personally, it would take me a long time to get through 20 50g tins of tobacco.

TheKBizzle

Does anyone know a good site for getting cheap Al Capone Cigarillos and maybe Romeo y Julieta Cigarillos

Thanks

holdemfoldem

Just wondering if anybody has any good links other than:

http://www.e-tobaccos.com/buy-cigars/index.php

Wouldn't work out at much of a saving for my two brands, JP blue ( i know ) and L&M red label

Cheers

lord lucan

holdemfoldem wrote: »

Just wondering if anybody has any good links other than:

http://www.e-tobaccos.com/buy-cigars/index.php

Wouldn't work out at much of a saving for my two brands, JP blue ( i know ) and L&M red label

Cheers

Them prices are shocking!! There's virtually no saving to be made.

You'd be better trying to get a cheap flight and do a day trip to somewhere in Europe. I done that last week. Early flight from Dublin to Madrid,cheap Metro into the city,bought 2,400 Marlboro Red in 3 or 4 Tabac kiosks and then back to the airport for a late afternoon flight home. After airfare was taken out i saved €450 and have enough cigarettes to do me until late January.

holdemfoldem

wow not bad, and pretty good idea.

I know there is a sticky on this that i need to read but surely that many is frowned upon.. was there a risk of getting em confiscated?

The Hill Billy

holdemfoldem wrote: »

wow not bad, and pretty good idea.

I know there is a sticky on this that i need to read but surely that many is frowned upon.. was there a risk of getting em confiscated?

Read the thread. There is advice on the number of cigarettes that you can bring in. The charter also has a link to the relevant page on the Revenue.ie site.

tHB

mjcom4d

Anyone know sites for buying carrolls or any other countries that sell them

holdemfoldem

The Hill Billy wrote: »

Read the thread. There is advice on the number of cigarettes that you can bring in. The charter also has a link to the relevant page on the Revenue.ie site.

tHB

will do.. sorry:)

Ok i read it and the site linked to it regarding traveling within the E.U, i'm still unclear on something. May i ask?

OldGoat

Have you searched the forum for '"Customs"? Not trying to be unhelpful here but that question is asked so frequently here that most of us have a pain in the arse answering it. Thats why we put the link in the charter.

Anyway - just to get you started...
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=73211129

lukekiko

thinking of buying cigarettes online was looking at a few sites some look bit dodgey with prices too good to be true! anybody out there recommend a good site and information on the most you can order at a time that would get through customs!!

Jev/N

Well, it's pretty illegal for a start..

scudzilla

Jev/N wrote: »

Well, it's pretty illegal for a start..

Is it?? Wouldn't be so sure

Check this forum for answers

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=609

Cookie_Monster

OP, the smoking forum may be a better place to get an answer on this than Dublin.

Can't see it being illegal within the EU tbh, though customs will probably look for duty on it on delivery

The Hill Billy

Last 4 posts moved from Dublin City forum.

@lukekiko - Please be sure to read the Smoking forum charter.

tHB

Rabidlamb

http://www.e-tobaccos.com/buy-cigars/index.php

lord lucan wrote: »

Them prices are shocking!! There's virtually no saving to be made.

I've found this with most products on here, the savings don't seem justify the risk.
I can't see how it's worthwhile once you factor in the deliver cost.

reverenddave

Rabidlamb wrote: »

I've found this with most products on here, the savings don't seem justify the risk.
I can't see how it's worthwhile once you factor in the deliver cost.

they were way cheaper up until about 6 months ago

i used to pay €80 for 10 pouches of american spirit
now its almost €120 nearly a 50% increase

their loss

Rabidlamb

reverenddave wrote: »

they were way cheaper up until about 6 months ago

i used to pay €80 for 10 pouches of american spirit
now its almost €120 nearly a 50% increase

their loss

Just checked on my brand.
Benson & Hedges Gold €67.99 per carton + €17.99 P&P = €8.59 per pack.
Thanks but no thanks Mr. E-Tobacco guy.

Ok, I increase the order qty. but the shipping only moves up marginally.
So to make it worthwhile you'd want to be ordering big quantities & hope they don't get stopped .
Count me out I'm afraid.