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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭pajero12


    Tipp Man wrote: »
    Yeah when we were on the pit silage the contractor was throwing 2 (and then 3) rows into 1 and we weren't particularly happy with that silage.

    There is just too much grass in a row to dry. However for the past 7 years we are back to single swarths and it is drying well
    Muckit wrote: »
    No silage bale contractors near us try and pick up 20' rows. Most only have 9' krones with no swrather.

    Usually 10' taarup and john deere have swarthers that do pit silage
    :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭vincenzolorenzo


    A neighbour near us uses a wilter to dry his grass before baling. I don't know what make it is but basically he drives up along the swart and it flicks the grass over and leaves it down where it was originally sitting. Does a great job drying out the grass and the row it leaves is 100% ideal for baling. Nicely fluffed up, no lumps. Great job


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    A neighbour near us uses a wilter to dry his grass before baling. I don't know what make it is but basically he drives up along the swart and it flicks the grass over and leaves it down where it was originally sitting. Does a great job drying out the grass and the row it leaves is 100% ideal for baling. Nicely fluffed up, no lumps. Great job


    Similar to one of these I assume:

    http://www.conoreng.ie/product.php?category_id=8&product_id=28


    They are starting to become popular around here - about 5 manufacturers of a similar product in Ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭vincenzolorenzo


    Thats the one alright. The big advantage of the haybob over pretty much every alternative of course is that its a jack of all trades. It'll shake grass out fully and dry it well and can be used for hay or silage. It'll also do a decent job at rowing grass up, provided its set up and driven correctly, something which a lot of lads don't seem to know how to do in my experience. That wilter might do a better job at preparing grass for silage, but a separate machine required for hay.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 733 ✭✭✭jeff greene


    reilig wrote: »
    Similar to one of these I assume:

    http://www.conoreng.ie/product.php?category_id=8&product_id=28


    They are starting to become popular around here - about 5 manufacturers of a similar product in Ireland.

    Saw one on Donedeal a while back with a swarther, like on a mower fitted, so you could double or even triple up rows. Think it was €5k


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    Saw one on Donedeal a while back with a swarther, like on a mower fitted, so you could double or even triple up rows. Think it was €5k

    I think that most of them come with a rear swarther which would allow you to throw the row to one side on top of another row to double them up. The ones that i have seen do anyway.

    Edit: Just looked ta the picture on the connor website and it show one trying to throw a silage swart to one side. Looks like a fail!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    reilig wrote: »
    I think that most of them come with a rear swarther which would allow you to throw the row to one side on top of another row to double them up. The ones that i have seen do anyway.

    Edit: Just looked ta the picture on the connor website and it show one trying to throw a silage swart to one side. Looks like a fail!

    well did you decide on anything what to do with haybob yet, our one needs a few new springs so trying to motivate myself to change them out, usually end up whacking my knuckles doing that job


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    sealey-roll-pin-punch-set-9pc-3-12mm-metric.jpg

    Bought myself a set of Sealey roll pin punches the other day for the exact same reason lad! Find it a right bas**rd to remove the roll pins with anything else. There's a little nib on the top of the punch that fits into the cente of the roll pin and saves it slipping and crazing the oul knuckles .....ouch!! ;) €50 for the set of 9. I'm sure you could possibly buy them separately. Just liked the look of these, they come in a pouch and I've different roll pins to remove on an old fertiliser spreader.

    Hoping to pull out the haybob this week and get it set up. Wrap gone very dear and have alot of surplus meadow closed. Makes more sense if weather comes good to make hay of some and sell them off


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    Muckit wrote: »
    sealey-roll-pin-punch-set-9pc-3-12mm-metric.jpg

    Bought myself a set of Sealey roll pin punches the other day for the exact same reason lad! Find it a right bas**rd to remove the roll pins with anything else. There's a little nib on the top of the punch that fits into the cente of the roll pin and saves it slipping and crazing the oul knuckles .....ouch!! ;) €50 for the set of 9. I'm sure you could possibly buy them separately. Just liked the look of these, they come in a pouch and I've different roll pins to remove on an old fertiliser spreader.

    Hoping to pull out the haybob this week and get it set up. Wrap gone very dear and have alot of surplus meadow closed. Makes more sense if weather comes good to make hay of some and sell them off
    ya i was looking at the farming indo online earlier where they do a piece on haybobs and the same job so it put it into my head, i must get a good punch alright, where did you pick up them ones


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Hi Vander

    Ya I seen that article in the farming indo alrite, but had it in my head before that. They just recommended a standard parallel punch. It wouldn't have the little nib on it. But once it was same diameter as the roll pin it'd probably manage it ok.

    I ordered my set from Liam Howley motorfactors in Ballinasloe (opposite shearwater Hotel). I know him from going in and out. He hadn't a glue what I was looking for, but he gave me a sealey catalogue and said if they're in it, he can get them. Found them in it at home, rang him up and he had them for me on Monday.

    I've an impact wrench that I bought a while back and haven't used yet, so might break it in on changing the tines. I see sealey do colourcoded 'torque sticks' aswell. Would be a mighty job when using a compressor to make sure a lad wouldn't ring heads off bolts ;) Is it too early to start writing my letter to Santy?? :D:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    Muckit wrote: »
    Hi Vander

    Ya I seen that article in the farming indo alrite, but had it in my head before that. They just recommended a standard parallel punch. It wouldn't have the little nib on it. But once it was same diameter as the roll pin it'd probably manage it ok.

    I ordered my set from Liam Howley motorfactors in Ballinasloe (opposite shearwater Hotel). I know him from going in and out. He hadn't a glue what I was looking for, but he gave me a sealey catalogue and said if they're in it, he can get them. Found them in it at home, rang him up and he had them for me on Monday.

    I've an impact wrench that I bought a while back and haven't used yet, so might break it in on changing the tines. I see sealey do colourcoded 'torque sticks' aswell. Would be a mighty job when using a compressor to make sure a lad wouldn't ring heads off bolts ;) Is it too early to start writing my letter to Santy?? :D:D

    actually now that you mention it i bought the gun from aldi there a while back and forgot about it so might be an oppertunity to give it a go withthe compressor, quality of their stuff generally isnt the greatest though so it probably wont be worth a sh1te


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    their stuff generally isnt the greatest though so it probably wont be worth a sh1te

    It was at the ploughing that I both mine. Think twas from tuff tools in Cork. I bought the retractable air hose reel alrite from Aldi. Hopefully now the ould lad will leave it right the next time he goes pumping the wheels ! I'm always tripping over the air hose after him!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭what happen


    Muckit wrote: »
    sealey-roll-pin-punch-set-9pc-3-12mm-metric.jpg

    Bought myself a set of Sealey roll pin punches the other day for the exact same reason lad! Find it a right bas**rd to remove the roll pins with anything else. There's a little nib on the top of the punch that fits into the cente of the roll pin and saves it slipping and crazing the oul knuckles .....ouch!! ;) €50 for the set of 9. I'm sure you could possibly buy them separately. Just liked the look of these, they come in a pouch and I've different roll pins to remove on an old fertiliser spreader.

    Hoping to pull out the haybob this week and get it set up. Wrap gone very dear and have alot of surplus meadow closed. Makes more sense if weather comes good to make hay of some and sell them off
    i bought a set of ck roll pin punches some years ago and i put them in the toolbox in the shed.then one day i went to use them and some bas**rd had taken them.never even got to use them once.:mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭bbeeforsalmon


    Muckit wrote: »
    sealey-roll-pin-punch-set-9pc-3-12mm-metric.jpg

    Bought myself a set of Sealey roll pin punches the other day for the exact same reason lad! Find it a right bas**rd to remove the roll pins with anything else. There's a little nib on the top of the punch that fits into the cente of the roll pin and saves it slipping and crazing the oul knuckles .....ouch!! ;) €50 for the set of 9. I'm sure you could possibly buy them separately. Just liked the look of these, they come in a pouch and I've different roll pins to remove on an old fertiliser spreader.

    Hoping to pull out the haybob this week and get it set up. Wrap gone very dear and have alot of surplus meadow closed. Makes more sense if weather comes good to make hay of some and sell them off

    I hope you are using a roll pin with a smaller diameter than the original when you are rotating the tine holder to tension the spring - it will slip in and out very easily so the punch is only needed twice for each spring, once to drive out the pin at the start and again to put it back after the spring has been tensioned.


  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭eddiek


    is it possible to row 2 rows into one for round baler silage with a haybob also what rpm for shaking out . using pz and mf135. thanks for any replies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    eddiek wrote: »
    is it possible to row 2 rows into one for round baler silage with a haybob also what rpm for shaking out . using pz and mf135. thanks for any replies

    I've done it many times. It depends on the size of the mower, but I used to throw two 8' rows (I think!) into one for the baler.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    Bizzum wrote: »
    I've done it many times. It depends on the size of the mower, but I used to throw two 8' rows (I think!) into one for the baler.
    Would you just have one gate left on the haybob ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭bbeeforsalmon


    The smaller (older ) haybob will put two 5ft 6in rows together for baling. It also spreads out a single 10ft row for drying and gets it back together for baling.


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭bbeeforsalmon


    Two gates on at all times.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    moy83 wrote: »
    Would you just have one gate left on the haybob ?
    Two gates on at all times.

    Yeah, always both gates. Opened fairly wide too. A wide row as opposed to a narrow high one.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    If we ever get haybob season I must experiment :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    moy83 wrote: »
    If we ever get haybob season I must experiment :D

    You can throw the row over a bit to one side too onto dry ground as opposed to throwing it straight onto the line it was knocked on.

    Waiting this couple of weeks to knock silage and it's still standing!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Bizzum wrote: »
    Waiting this couple of weeks to knock silage and it's still standing!

    What are you waiting for?! It's only going to start rotting at the butt. This is as good as it gets. You play the cards you are dealt.

    30-50mm of rain forecast from tomorrow on for the rest of the week and into next weekend! That'I be three weeks late for you! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 597 ✭✭✭PatQfarmer


    Cut silage Friday, got pi**ed on Saturday. Left it on ground while Tipp beat Cork Sunday:D. Ranked it up with haybob Monday afternoon, baled it Monday night.
    My mower is a 2.2m(8'approx). Haybob only just gets 2 swarths. I have to be really careful first run, but once together, no probs. I sometimes go opposite directions, with gates angled and put 4 swarths into one for baler, but usually find it too much bother. They get it baled fine when you pull 2 together.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 gc1992


    You should be able to row up to two 7ft drum mower swaths into one with a pz 300, with disc mower swaths you'll probably be only able to row up two 5'6ft swaths. I wouldn't advise shakeing out silage with a haybob, if the grass is anyway heavy or wet it will make huge lumps of it and balers don't like lumby rows!! Regarding rpm you should rev it to the full 540(1700rpm for a 135) for shakeing out, for rowing don't over rev it, make sure you turn the top link down and make sure it's picking the grass clean.


  • Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭Conor556


    Did you get a machine that did what you wanted?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 FMJG83


    eddiek wrote: »
    is it possible to row 2 rows into one for round baler silage with a haybob also what rpm for shaking out . using pz and mf135. thanks for any replies

    What gear do you use in the 135 in for tedding?


  • Registered Users Posts: 946 ✭✭✭Dupont


    Got a lend of a haybob. It's a MF one that the gate fold down from on top. What do you do. Drive same as was mowed or on top of grass. Do headlands then rest. Is it same for the other runs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭farmerjj


    This thread is,nt half old,where,d ye dig this up.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,010 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Dad rang me up on Friday all pleased with himself that he ran over the rows with the hay bob. It was a balls of a job. Lumpy rows and got 15 bales to the acre where the should have been 12.
    Auld lads! :rolleyes:


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