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Falling in love with a married man

  • 18-06-2010 8:02am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    I really could do with some advice... Im 25 years old and I have recently through work gotten to know an outside colleague that is 43 years old, married and has kids in their late teens...

    I've never been attracted to an older man before and after getting to know him, I started to have feelings. We were away together on a week long business trip together and spent a lot of time together, including in the bar at night. I have very strong feelings for him. He has been very flirty towards me, made inuendos, pinced my bum etc... nothing happened, he walked me to my room every night, gave me a hug and a kiss on the cheek and that was it! I have avoided him for the past week or two since we got home.. afraid of the feelings that I have for him and confused about what it all means. He text me yesterday and i replied a few messages, he had x's at the end of them and thanked me for apparently making him smile so much... a lot of inuendo and flirting in the messages..

    Now i know the whole thing is completely wrong, i really do.. hense why i avoided hin. but how do i get over him... and how do i stop myself thinking about him non stop.

    I feel like such an idiot for getting myself into this situation, nothing like this has ever happened me before.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭dublingal80


    All you can do at the moment is stay away from him. stop replying to his texts too. Once you stop replying he will eventually get the hint and move to the next person

    the LAST thing you want to do is cross that line, especially with a work collegue. Just keep your head screwed on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Thank you for the response, the advice really is greatly appreciated.

    I know I should stay away from him.. It just seems more difficult. It may be a year or more before we will have to work together again as he is an outside colleague who only works on one project.

    I would like to think that he would never cross the line and that its all just harmless on his side. And that the feelings are all on my side. He's such a nice guy that I wouldnt like to think that he might actually do something inappropriate.

    I just cant stop thinking about him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭mood


    Don't have anything to do with him that's not work related. No texting, no lunches, if away for work avoid the bar and tell him you are going up to you room to phone you boyfriend etc. Your only going to get hurt and be back here looking for advice about how to get over him, his wife found out, he won't leave his wife like promised, the whole town knows, you lost your job over it... the list of bad outcomes is endless. If you continue to let him get close then it will be your own fault.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    OP

    Stand back and put yourself in his wifes shoes for a moment.

    Were you her, how would you feel to know that some woman has set her sights on your husband? The father of your children.
    Put yourself in the childrens shoes, as a child, how would you feel if your father decided to up and leave because of some strange woman?

    This man is misbehaving. He is disrespecting his wife and children, do not help him.
    This man is not yours.
    Back off now. If you cannot mentally distance yourself from him then you are going to have to physically do so.

    Do not be that person, the one who helps break up a family and makes another woman miserable and breaks the hearts of children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    To be fair to him, he has never disrespected his wife to be by bad mouthing or saying that there was problems or anything like that. We just hit it off and got on well with each other.

    I feel like such an idiot, Im a pretty strong career women... and hate that i could compromise it by acting like this. In particular when other members of our working group when we were away were commenting on how close we were.

    Im pretty sure that if he didnt try anything then, or behave inappropriately that he never would and that this is all on my side.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭How Strange


    OP, this guy seems to have all the power. He knows what he's doing, he probably sees that you're infatuated and he's most definitely taking advantage. He isn't innocent by any means. He's got this 25 year old blushing and making doe eyes at him. He must be delighted with himself.

    IMO, pinching your bum is offensive and unbelievably crass. Does he think he's in some sort of Carry On film?

    You really don't want to go down the road of being the bit on the side who gets the leftovers. He will most probably (99%) never leave his wife or kids for you, by the sounds of his behaviour he has probably done this before.

    Ask yourself if you honestly think you're worth more than being someones dirty little secret or if you deserve someone who will have a respectful and mature relationship with you?


    All I'll say is for your own sanity and peace of mind establish a boundary between you two and make sure he is aware of it. If he persists then it's harrassment and tell him that. If again he persists then inform your employer. Nothing has happened yet so leave it at that.

    Don't waste your youth on a dirty old man (relative to your age) who hasn't the guts to leave his wife and children if he's in an unhappy marriage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I know it may seem like im defending him a lot.. but...

    The bum pinching incident was in a car after i had joked with him that while he was fastening his seat belt that his hands were getting too close (they weren't really). Also after a lot of alcohol.

    Like I said I, I really dont believe that he would ever do anything to hurt his wife or kids, he has never indictated that he would want anything to happen or that anything would happen again. He has never mentioned being unhappy in his marraige.

    While on the business trip I avoided him on a number of occasions like not sitting beside him during the day or sitting beside another male for breakfast or dinner so as to give the impression that it was all friendly banter.

    As I said there is no reason for us to work together again for a long time, and we live hours apart so im physically away from him. It's just getting him out of my head now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 maryqwerty


    Beruthiel, you are so right! i agree with every word you said and you sound like a really caring person. to be honest, making any sort of move in this situation in my opinion makes you a bad person- it is such a selfish thing to do.. how would you like if you married a man and had his children, and then some SLUT sleeps with him. yes he is wrong but you don't want to be looked down on. at least you have the decency to post here but steer clear of him. he's bad news. very sad that affairs are so common nowadays


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I think its very unfair to call me a slut seeing as how nothing happened and i would never let anything happen.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    To be fair to him, he has never disrespected his wife.

    Really?
    He has been very flirty towards me, made inuendos, pinced my bum etc

    You think his wife would have no problem with any of the above?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭fungun


    er....just cos someone has a crush and maybe makes a mistake doesnt make them a SLUT!

    Anyway key point has been outlined....

    "Hes such a nice guy"
    "Hes never disrespected his wife"

    Er...I think youll find he has. He pinched your bum. He walked you back to your room when away and kissed you on the cheek. Id be pretty pissed off if a gf of mine was acting like that.

    He might not have come on to you but was giving you the opportunity to make the mistake of doing more....so you would feel bad if anything happened and h could defend himself and make you look bad. Also you work with him, there is no good outcome here.

    Although a low level of flirting and innuendo is probably acceptable it sounds like it has just gone way too far - I wouldnt reply to his texts, and I would change my behaviour towards him so he doesnt feel like he can kiss you on the cheek - between work colleagues thats pretty inappropriate on a work trip. You can set the boundaries if you so wish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭mood


    To be fair to him, he has never disrespected his wife to be by bad mouthing or saying that there was problems or anything like that. We just hit it off and got on well with each other.

    I feel like such an idiot, Im a pretty strong career women... and hate that i could compromise it by acting like this. In particular when other members of our working group when we were away were commenting on how close we were.

    Im pretty sure that if he didnt try anything then, or behave inappropriately that he never would and that this is all on my side.

    To be fair he is disrespecting his wife and kids and you for that matter! Ass pinching, late drinks at the hotel bar, giving a kissing and hug etc not exactly the action of a of a caring hubby and father! If he would cheat on his wife he would do the same to you in the future (if he ever left his wife and normally men don't). He sound horrible.

    It sound like you are the talk of the office already. Put a stop to it asap before you get hurt emotionally or career wise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭dublingal80


    Thank you for the response, the advice really is greatly appreciated.

    I know I should stay away from him.. It just seems more difficult. It may be a year or more before we will have to work together again as he is an outside colleague who only works on one project.

    I would like to think that he would never cross the line and that its all just harmless on his side. And that the feelings are all on my side. He's such a nice guy that I wouldnt like to think that he might actually do something inappropriate.

    I just cant stop thinking about him.


    a married man pinching a colleagues ass while out is crossing the line


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    To be fair to him, he has never disrespected his wife to be by bad mouthing or saying that there was problems or anything like that. We just hit it off and got on well with each other.

    I feel like such an idiot, Im a pretty strong career women... and hate that i could compromise it by acting like this. In particular when other members of our working group when we were away were commenting on how close we were.

    Im pretty sure that if he didnt try anything then, or behave inappropriately that he never would and that this is all on my side.

    Okay, so pretend it's your long term partner pinching bums, going to hotel rooms for hugs and kisses, flirting with someone else while on a work trip...still so innocent and respectful? Not at all unprofessional or sleazy? Hmmm. The bigger question is why you let him come to your room and do that? Why you want to be the office gossip...do you not care what colleagues think of you? What damage is done to your career just so he gets an ego stroke and a to paw a young thing?! :eek:

    You need to stay well clear of him, OP, married men spell trouble with a capital T. Very few of these type of relationships work out, far more common is being used, kept secret and ends with him calling you everything under the sun while begging his wife for forgiveness. Not worth it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Miss Fluff


    I'm not going to comment on what a sleazy gobsh1te he sounds to be and how you know he is married/how wrong it would be to pursue it etc, seems like that topic has been covered sufficiently
    I feel like such an idiot, Im a pretty strong career women... and hate that i could compromise it by acting like this. In particular when other members of our working group when we were away were commenting on how close we were.

    For your own sake, you are on SHAKY ground if colleagues are commenting on it. You need to nip it in the bud now because once you lose your professional reputation (and shagging your way around the company means you will never be taken seriously, ever) then that's it. Do you want to be the office gossip fodder? Have people snigger behind your back when you leave meetings? People watching your every move on work nights out?

    Next time he texts you tell him you have a boyfriend and ignore any further non work related correspondence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭mood


    Miss Fluff wrote: »
    I'm not going to comment on what a sleazy gobsh1te he sounds to be and how you know he is married/how wrong it would be to pursue it etc, seems like that topic has been covered sufficiently



    For your own sake, you are on SHAKY ground if colleagues are commenting on it. You need to nip it in the bud now because once you lose your professional reputation (and shagging your way around the company means you will never be taken seriously, ever) then that's it. Do you want to be the office gossip fodder? Have people snigger behind your back when you leave meetings? People watching your every move on work nights out?

    Next time he texts you tell him you have a boyfriend and ignore any further non work related correspondence.

    And remember OP that some of them possible know his wife quite well and might tell her. While you may get over a broken heart and being used by a married man etc but the damage to your profession reputation could follow you for the rest of your life. You really need to ignore texts etc and if he asks why just say 'it wasn't work related so you thought it best not to reply. I'm sure your wife wouldn't be happy with you texting a young one!'. Message sent loud and clear!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    mood wrote: »
    And remember OP that some of them possible know his wife quite well and might tell her. While you may get over a broken heart and being used by a married man etc but the damage to your profession reputation could follow you for the rest of your life. You really need to ignore texts etc and if he asks why just say 'it wasn't work related so you thought it best not to reply. I'm sure your wife wouldn't be happy with you texting a young one!'. Message sent loud and clear!

    He sounds like a sleaze and you're both behaving unprofessionally. The only contact you should have with this man is through work, no socialising alone together and any communication you have (face-to-face, phone, email, text etc.) should be work related.

    And do yourself a favour, you're 25, you should have no problem finding yourself a SINGLE AVAILABLE guy nearer your own age - ie a guy who isn't in a relationship with somebody else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭LittleBook


    I know I should stay away from him.. It just seems more difficult. It may be a year or more before we will have to work together again as he is an outside colleague who only works on one project.

    It sounds perfectly easy to stay away from him.:confused:

    My friend was in an extremely similar situation at your age and she made the mistake of giving 10 of her best years to the guy. She's still single and he's still perfectly happily married to his unsuspecting wife.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,830 ✭✭✭✭Taltos


    He's married.

    You may be infactuated, but I hope to god you are not falling for his little ego trip. To him you are a pretty silly little girl who makes him feel better.

    Now for some truths:
    1. His behaviour is wrong is so many ways
    > firstly - as above he is married - says alot to his character - and says alot to how he will treat his next partner or mistress
    > secondly - totally unprofessional. The first time he crossed the line you should have stopped in and reported his behaviour to your manager and HR department - not only to protect you but your company and their reputation.
    > thirdly - you seem very insistent on protecting him - I don't get it for all the reasons above unless you are just blown away that an older attractive man finds you attractive - so maybe some self-esteem issues at play here.

    Try to work on that - and don't settle. In terms though of professionalism - this is a small country - you should be doing all you can to build a good reputation for yourself. If he cannot act in a professional manner then you need to. I suggest that if you do meet him in a years time or earlier when you get an email for a coffee and a "chat" - that you nip this in the bud. Thank him for his interest but stress that he is married and that the only relationship you will have is a professional one - despite anything else he might think. He might huff and puff and make you feel bad for misunderstanding him and not being there when he needs to talk to someone about how rotten his marriage is and how lost he is - but that is what he wife is for....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭greengiant09


    i think you need to 'man' up and take some responsibility for your actions. ok, the bloke is dishonouring his wife and is chancing his arm but you have never made a concerted effort to reject them. in fact, if anything, you entertained him and gave him all the encouragement he needed to pursue you further. your 25 so you know what your doing!....i wonder if you really mean that nothing would ever happen??? especially considering the effect he has had on you and the way you defend all his actions. i think i've lost count of the amount of people who come on boards saying how they cheated with someone and use alcohol as an excuse!..it's just a cop out!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,199 ✭✭✭G-Money


    Just start focusing on his negative traits. Instead of focusing on how nice you think he is, focus on how he's trying to cheat on his wife. And even if by some miracle you did end up with him, there's a good chance he'd end up going after some other girl once you'd lost your novelty to him.

    As others have said, he's sleazy if he's coming onto you. But you are partly responsible as well if you are encouraging/not discouraging his behaviour.

    It sounds like you won't see him again for a while based on the way your job is structured so use that time to put him out of your mind.

    I'm pretty sure most of the people on this thread don't want to see an update further down the line where you went out with him "just as friends" but one thing led to another and you slept together and how from your perspective "it just happened".

    Not having a go at you OP. Just trying to give you the blunt truth. Too many people go into these types of situations, knowing full well they are doing wrong and then try to convince themselves or others that it wasn't their fault that they ended up doing x, y or z with a married person. You're 25 and you know the difference between right and wrong. You're also at the age where you can't throw out the "I was immature and selfish" line that a lot of girls use. In my mind, someone can't really use that to justify something once they pass 20.

    Just forget about him, think about all his negative traits. If none spring to mind, just make some up in your head. That's what I'm doing to get past a girl that I really fancy. It seems to be working too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭Glenshane Pass


    OP, looks like you have to get over him as it is, you seem to be infatuated. As said before, you have to focus on his negative traits instead of justifying his behaviour which you are doing. Cut contact with him, sit down, and think about the whole thing, everything. You will find that he is indeed a sleaze, no matter what way you look at it, and nothing healthy will ever become of it. Jesus christ don't make the mistake of getting involved in something that could last an eternity, being second best while he ****s his wife aswell as you. End this, even if it means taking a long holiday from work. Save yourself the hassle. You're in deep as it is and it will take you a while till you wake up. I've been there.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 731 ✭✭✭inmyday


    He's such a nice guy



    he is not. he really really isnt. there is only one thing on his mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 KasandraRose


    I think you should possibly have a conversation with him regarding how inappropriate you both have been acting and how the behavior needs to stop. It might make you feel better. After that conversation, stop all communication that's not work related.

    You just can't trust a married man who is hitting on another woman.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 KasandraRose


    Miss Fluff wrote: »
    Next time he texts you tell him you have a boyfriend and ignore any further non work related correspondence.

    I don't think there's any reason to lie to him about having a boyfriend (well, of course, unless you do). Be forth right and honest with him. Tell him your relationship is inappropriate and you'd like to continue to have a postive work relationship so the flirting, texting, etc. all needs to stop. Put your foot down first so he knows where you stand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 KasandraRose


    I think its very unfair to call me a slut seeing as how nothing happened and i would never let anything happen.

    I would agree, it's unfair. It seems she's got a conscience since she's posted on her trying to get help from people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    The simple fact that this man is prepared to cheat on his wife and children shows that he is an irresponsible, egostistical, untrustworthy arseh....

    General rule of thumb for working relationships is not to get involved with those kind of people.

    Simples, really


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Thank you all for the replies. They are much appreciated. I took some time over the past couple of days to think about the situation.

    While I really dont think that anything would ever happen, I dont believe that he would cheat on his wife and i would never let anything happen anyway. He never actually came onto me in a way that I saw was more than a bit of flirting... he walked me to my room as they were beside each other, maybe i was overreacting as i had feelings for him. Im not sure.

    Anyways, I deleted the texts that he sent me, the emails and his number... I doubt he will contact me when we wont be seeing each other for at least a few months anyway.

    Hope its the right thing and that im not confusing this for something that its not and throwing away a friend...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭mood


    Thank you all for the replies. They are much appreciated. I took some time over the past couple of days to think about the situation.

    While I really dont think that anything would ever happen, I dont believe that he would cheat on his wife and i would never let anything happen anyway. He never actually came onto me in a way that I saw was more than a bit of flirting... he walked me to my room as they were beside each other, maybe i was overreacting as i had feelings for him. Im not sure.

    Anyways, I deleted the texts that he sent me, the emails and his number... I doubt he will contact me when we wont be seeing each other for at least a few months anyway.

    Hope its the right thing and that im not confusing this for something that its not and throwing away a friend...

    I sure his wife wouldn't see you as his 'friend' if she ever found out about the flirting and texts etc. Seriously keep a very professional distance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    op, be very careful when you see him a few months later.

    dont waste any of your time and thoughts and energy on a taken man.

    my friend did not take our advice, and thought like you that things would not happen between them. when we blamed the guy, she would say words for him, but she would also think that he was playing him... anyway, she was an emotional monster and became extremely low self esteem. after years, she is now a bitter woman. have a distorted view over men (all men are bad) and relationships.

    stay away, OP. really, he just wants SEX from you. he did not make a move, because he is waiting for you to make it, so he can get away of it easily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    mood wrote: »
    I sure his wife wouldn't see you as his 'friend' if she ever found out about the flirting and texts etc. Seriously keep a very professional distance.

    +1

    and also, speaking as a male just a shade over 43, a 25 yo woman is not "friend" material ..."what midlife crisis? I've still got it going on!!" material maybe ...but not "friend" ...trust me on this


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Miss Fluff


    Hope its the right thing and that im not confusing this for something that its not and throwing away a friend...

    Well I'm not sure whether it's the norm for you but I wouldn't find it acceptable if my male friends made a habit of pinching my ar$e tbh....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Peasant - Really? Can you not be friends with someone like that? maybe its just me but in my work place im one of the youngest staff members... so i would honestly say that the people that i do call my friends there are between 35 - 45


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Miss Fluff wrote: »
    Well I'm not sure whether it's the norm for you but I wouldn't find it acceptable if my male friends made a habit of pinching my ar$e tbh....

    not sure if you say my previous comment explaining that incident, which is hardly a habit. but i dont think there way any basis in it... maybe a bit alcohol fueled, but ive had much younger men to worse in clubs around the country. and i dont find it acceptable when it makes me comfortable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Peasant - Really? Can you not be friends with someone like that? maybe its just me but in my work place im one of the youngest staff members... so i would honestly say that the people that i do call my friends there are between 35 - 45

    Sure, you can have a friendly, collegial relationship with a young woman. That may even involve some lighthearted banter and a bit of (non-serious) flirtation or the odd conversation about private things.

    Personally, I would not have enough in common with such a young girl to ever seriously count her among my (close) friends ...doesn't mean that
    I couldn't be friendly with her.

    Having said that, pinching bottoms and kissing cheeks in hotel corridors is definitely out ...that's not friendly, nor friend-ly, just sleazy


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Miss Fluff


    OK if we're going to get into semantics here, pinching your ar$e once does not constitute a habit so fair enough.

    You are being very defensive and very naive however. Every one of your replies has been to defend him and you don't seem to grasp what's happening here. Or else you don't want to grasp what's happening.

    You have a crush on him and are flattered by the attention. Do you actually believe you are falling in love with him?:confused: He sounds like a sleazy gobsh1te and if he is being inappropriate with you then you are not the first. THAT I can guarantee you. You need to simply understand that he is married, he is potentially going to jeopardise your career and f8ck you up. I've seen it happen to too many girls. One girl I know in particular who is now 33 and has wasted seven years on her married boss.

    This chap you refer to should come with a health warning. You need to stop entertaining thoughts of him being anything other than the leacherous twat he obviously is. That's all he is and you, as an apparently bright girl my dear, are making such a foolish mistake if you fall for it. Seriously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭greengiant09


    Thank you all for the replies. They are much appreciated. I took some time over the past couple of days to think about the situation.

    While I really dont think that anything would ever happen, I dont believe that he would cheat on his wife and i would never let anything happen anyway. He never actually came onto me in a way that I saw was more than a bit of flirting... he walked me to my room as they were beside each other, maybe i was overreacting as i had feelings for him. Im not sure.

    Anyways, I deleted the texts that he sent me, the emails and his number... I doubt he will contact me when we wont be seeing each other for at least a few months anyway.

    Hope its the right thing and that im not confusing this for something that its not and throwing away a friend...

    no offence but you are seriously deluded. i think this crush you have on this guy is clouding your judgement.

    you said in your original post that "He has been very flirty towards me, made inuendos, pinced my bum etc... nothing happened, he walked me to my room every night, gave me a hug and a kiss on the cheek and that was it!

    and also

    "He text me yesterday and i replied a few messages, he had x's at the end of them and thanked me for apparently making him smile so much... a lot of inuendo and flirting in the messages.."

    that is absolutely no way for a married man to behave! his wife would kick his arse if she knew what he was doing...you must be seriously blind if you can't see that he's been hitting on you. sounds to me he's playing it smooth and it's working!....just look at the effect he's been having on you! i actually think you do know exactly whats going on and your trying to convince yourself that it's all innocent...but deep down, you know the truth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭mood


    no offence but you are seriously deluded. i think this crush you have on this guy is clouding your judgement.

    you said in your original post that "He has been very flirty towards me, made inuendos, pinced my bum etc... nothing happened, he walked me to my room every night, gave me a hug and a kiss on the cheek and that was it!

    and also

    "He text me yesterday and i replied a few messages, he had x's at the end of them and thanked me for apparently making him smile so much... a lot of inuendo and flirting in the messages.."

    that is absolutely no way for a married man to behave! his wife would kick his arse if she knew what he was doing...you must be seriously blind if you can't see that he's been hitting on you. sounds to me he's playing it smooth and it's working!....just look at the effect he's been having on you! i actually think you do know exactly whats going on and your trying to convince yourself that it's all innocent...but deep down, you know the truth.

    100% agree. This is not 'friend' behaviour. My male friends (some who I have knows since junior infants) would never behave like this. AND they are free and single!!! If you think this is normal and friendly you must have very strange relationships with friends and no existent boundaries. You really need to wake up and cop on. It's only a matter of time before you back here crying about how he won't leave his wife etc. I'll have will no sympathy at all because you have a change to get out now before it gets out of hand.

    Repeat to you self:
    HE IS MARRIED. HE IS MARRIED. HE IS MARRIED. HE IS MARRIED.
    HE IS MARRIED. HE IS MARRIED. HE IS MARRIED. HE IS MARRIED.
    HE IS MARRIED. HE IS MARRIED. HE IS MARRIED. HE IS MARRIED.
    HE IS MARRIED. HE IS MARRIED. HE IS MARRIED. HE IS MARRIED.
    HE IS MARRIED. HE IS MARRIED. HE IS MARRIED. HE IS MARRIED.
    HE IS MARRIED. HE IS MARRIED. HE IS MARRIED. HE IS MARRIED.
    HE IS MARRIED. HE IS MARRIED. HE IS MARRIED. HE IS MARRIED.

    Also, Everyone I really feel OP has had enough advice. I for one won't waste any more time on this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    It seems to me that the OP thinks this man is glamorous, sophisticated :rolleyes: and is being totally taken in by him despite what she says here. The reality is that a single woman having an affair with a married man is not glamorous, it's seedy, sordid and sleazy and the single woman always comes out of it worse. There's a name for these women - homewreckers.

    It's amazing how the thinking of young working women has changed in the last few years. A decade or more ago if a single 25 year old woman was subjected to this kind of behaviour from a 43 year old married colleague she would deem it sexual harassment and unprofessional behaviour and might even take him to court. Nowadays it's called banter, flirting and flattery and it's encouraged! That's progress for you I guess.:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭Wagon


    The guy is having a mid life crisis, all he wants to do is fúck you in a hotel room away from his wife for a bit of weekend exitement and as a way to assure himself he is still "the man". That is all he wants you for. Want the proof? Flirty messages, innuendos, etc... No. You don't carry on like that when you are in a relationship. And certainly when your married, and have children.

    And you can sit there and tell us all how great he is. Actions speak louder than words, never mind what he said to you. Think about what he has actually done. And if you STILL can't cop on to what he is like and are actually thinking of sleeping with him, then you are just as bad as he is.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭Glenshane Pass


    Last two posts are harsh, but true.

    OP, you've fallen for this lad for some reason, when you come out the other end of this it would be no harm to do some reading or even talk to a professional about how you fell for this fella. Find out the reason(s) and save yourself future hassle by not letting it happen again. 'Boundaries' I think they're called, something I know little about, lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Emme wrote: »
    It seems to me that the OP thinks this man is glamorous, sophisticated :rolleyes: and is being totally taken in by him despite what she says here. The reality is that a single woman having an affair with a married man is not glamorous, it's seedy, sordid and sleazy and the single woman always comes out of it worse. There's a name for these women - homewreckers.

    It's amazing how the thinking of young working women has changed in the last few years. A decade or more ago if a single 25 year old woman was subjected to this kind of behaviour from a 43 year old married colleague she would deem it sexual harassment and unprofessional behaviour and might even take him to court. Nowadays it's called banter, flirting and flattery and it's encouraged! That's progress for you I guess.:rolleyes:

    You cant call me a home wrecker, I have done nothing wrong. I never let anything happen and never would. I take strong offense to that, you dont know me.

    I came on here and asked for advice to get over him and stop thinking about him. I was in an extreme work environment with this man where we had to spend a lot of time together for work reasons and socialise a lot too. I get that its wrong to have feelings for a married man but im the one that will have to deal with that and move on. Which i have by deleting his number. Excuse me for seeing the best in people and not wanting to think that he is a bad person.

    I also take strong offense to comments relating to feminism, you dont know me. I will move on with my life and avoid him and not allow anything to happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Wagon wrote: »
    The guy is having a mid life crisis, all he wants to do is fúck you in a hotel room away from his wife for a bit of weekend exitement and as a way to assure himself he is still "the man". That is all he wants you for. Want the proof? Flirty messages, innuendos, etc... No. You don't carry on like that when you are in a relationship. And certainly when your married, and have children.

    And you can sit there and tell us all how great he is. Actions speak louder than words, never mind what he said to you. Think about what he has actually done. And if you STILL can't cop on to what he is like and are actually thinking of sleeping with him, then you are just as bad as he is.

    I never, ever, actually thought of sleeping with him. I asked for advice of how to get over him. I may be 25 but i dont think there's anything wrong with being with someone older. My 30 year old sister is very happily married to a 47 year old man. That doesnt mean that I want the same thing. I would never have let anything happen, was merely confused about having these feelings for someone who was married. It had never happened to me before. I did not think it was glamourous or sophisticated.... If i did, I wouldnt have been so upset by the situation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Elle Collins


    I would never have let anything happen, was merely confused about having these feelings for someone who was married.

    I really don't get why you'd be confused. His marital status should have cleared up any confusion on the spot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I really don't get why you'd be confused. His marital status should have cleared up any confusion on the spot.

    confused because i had never had feelings or been attracted to someone who was older or who was married. completely out of character for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    You cant call me a home wrecker, I have done nothing wrong. I never let anything happen and never would. I take strong offense to that, you dont know me.

    How can I be calling you a homewrecker if you're not having an affair with this man? Banter and flattery aren't an affair but most people here agreed that this man's behaviour wasn't honourable and that you were in danger of being taken in by him.
    I came on here and asked for advice to get over him and stop thinking about him. I was in an extreme work environment with this man where we had to spend a lot of time together for work reasons and socialise a lot too. I get that its wrong to have feelings for a married man but im the one that will have to deal with that and move on. Which i have by deleting his number. Excuse me for seeing the best in people and not wanting to think that he is a bad person.

    It was obvious he was playing on that. The fact that he's older isn't the issue, he's MARRIED.
    I also take strong offense to comments relating to feminism, you dont know me.

    Some women would construe the man's behaviour as sexual harrassment.
    I will move on with my life and avoid him and not allow anything to happen.

    Good for you. If you did anything else you'd be putting your career at risk and compromising your life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,199 ✭✭✭G-Money



    Hope its the right thing and that im not confusing this for something that its not and throwing away a friend...

    This line jumped out at me. I hope you don't hate me for saying this but this guy isn't your friend and it's obvious that you don't think of him as a friend, you think of him as much more than that. I'd go as far to say that at the moment, what you don't want to miss is the attention from him and how you feel around him etc.

    If you were "just friends" you wouldn't have started this thread. Again, I'm not having a go at you at all OP, I'm really not. Just a lot of people say stuff like "I don't want to lose them as a friend" and I think what they really mean is that they don't want to lose that feeling that they could hook up the person or lose the feeling of being around them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I came on here and asked for advice to get over him and stop thinking about him. I was in an extreme work environment with this man where we had to spend a lot of time together for work reasons and socialise a lot too.

    There should be no problem avoiding him if you're not going to see him for another year?


    If you want to stop thinking about him, just remember that he's married and that any married man who carries on the way he did ie pinching your bum, calling to your BEDROOM at the hotel, kissing you, sending you flirty texts is not worth your time. I don't know how you let it go so far to be honest!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭greengiant09


    i think as someone said earlier there is nothing else that can be said to the op that hasn't been said already. it's all there and it's pretty much black and white.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭BumbleB


    Married man flirts with younger girl 25 .
    They have a physical relationship meet in secret , lavishes gifts on girl ,nice weekends away lovely presents.

    All is well and girl starts to develop feelings ,he tells her he's going to leave the wife and they are going to move into a big house together and live happily ever after.

    Girl is passionately in love with man ,he says nice things to her buys her nice presents and pampers her ,he hasn't moved in with her yet but he says he will and it will be soon.

    Girl goes out with her friends clubbing and pubs gets a lot of attention from guys but she's not interested as she feels she's met the "one"

    One day girl gets an irresistable urge to tell his wife ,that they are an item and they are moving in together very soon.

    Wife goes ballistic ,doesn't believe whats she's after hearing , throws girl out of the house. Married man comes home ,is confronted with an angry wife demanding answers.

    Married man says the girl who appeared on doorstep is some crazy pyscho bitch who has a crush on him and she is not to come near the house. Girl rings him and he's engaged doesn't answer his emails. Calls his office he's but he's never there.

    Because this guy was important to the company ,a big client or similar ,girl on side finds herself with her P45 in her hand.

    Girl realises the whole thing was a sham and today is her 30th birthday.

    Thats how deep it goes. Its not Cinderella were talking about here ,its real life.


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