'Inception' Mega Thread *SPOILERS FROM POST 292 ONWARDS*

clived2

humanji wrote: »

And now Inception can be added to the list. Seriously, what made this any better? It was a standard caper: they trick the mark into doing the hard part for them (ironically enough the same thing done in Ocean's 11, 12 and 13). This film just rehashed an old idea. Dressing it up with dreams was a good attempt, but didn't impress me.

Resorting to personal abuse just because I didn't like a film that you did?

That is not what I am doing,

Please provide reasons for the statement you mentioned earlier.

I would never insult someone for having a different opinion than me, I just want to hear the reasons,

billymitchell

login1 wrote: »

You are in the majority , it's just that those who love the film are more vocal, most who see it and say meh just forget about it, the fanboys will always shout and scream.

I usually find if people hate something, the give out more about it than people who really like it. Seems to me like people either really like it or they are just disappointed by the film due to overhype. Dont think anybody really hates the film, do they?

humanji

clived2 wrote: »

That is not what I am doing,

Please provide reasons for the statement you mentioned earlier.

I would never insult someone for having a different opinion than me, I just want to hear the reasons,

Malet's quote is an insult in that context.

As I said, it's a simple caper movie. They need to trick the mark into doing the hard part for them. It's a very standard heist movie concept. So Nolan took this and decided the dress it up with the idea of entering people's dreams so that it differs from other caper movies, but it's just a gimmick and little else. Take that away and you're left with very little of substance.

And it was implemented rather clumsily. Did it not bother you that besides diCaprio, every other character seemed to be in the story to either explain how inception/extraction works, or to fill in diCaprio's background? It seemed like the whole dream/heist part of the story was only slapped in to give diCaprio's character a way to fight his demons. That gives it a feeling of Deus Ex Machina.

FrostyJack

But even if I did hear of it getting great reviews it shouldn't affect your viewing experience.

It kind of did as I heard quotes like "it blew me away" or "what a mind f**" from status update on Facebook etc. I was expecting something out of this world to happen at the end of every scene, but it never did, ever. That's how it affected the viewing experience. If I knew it it was just a heist movie I would have enjoyed it more but not expecting much.

Did you even read what I wrote? It wasnt complicated, however I could see some other director making it impossible to follow.

I'm sure someone could of but it would have been difficult consider how straight forward the idea of a dream within a dream is.

Yes because that all happened in the first ten minutes, Your story does not add up. So have a little think about it and come back to me.

The guy wakes up on a shore, meets the old Asian guy, 5 minutes later he is trying to brake into his vault when he is younger. What bit did I miss? Maybe it wasn't exactly 10 minutes but it wasn't an hour. The bit where he was shot was mid movie I grant you and that was only where my suspicions were confirmed. Happy?

LittleBook

I absolutely loved it, was completely caught up from start to finish. If I'm looking forward to a film I always make an effort to avoid reading too much about it. It was unavoidable in this case but the whole secrecy surrounding the film protected it very well for me ... and it was all that.

The "Arthur creating the kick and fight" scene with Zimmer's (legend) score was fúcking orgasmic. Can't wait to see it again.

clived2

FrostyJack wrote: »

The guy wakes up on a shore, meets the old Asian guy, 5 minutes later he is trying to brake into his vault when he is younger. What bit did I miss? Maybe it wasn't exactly 10 minutes but it wasn't an hour. The bit where he was shot was mid movie I grant you and that was only where my suspicions were confirmed. Happy?

so wait when did you fiind out the ending,
was it within ten minutes as you stated earlier
or was it mid movie.....

clived2

humanji wrote: »

Malet's quote is an insult in that context.

As I said, it's a simple caper movie. They need to trick the mark into doing the hard part for them. It's a very standard heist movie concept. So Nolan took this and decided the dress it up with the idea of entering people's dreams so that it differs from other caper movies, but it's just a gimmick and little else. Take that away and you're left with very little of substance.

And it was implemented rather clumsily. Did it not bother you that besides diCaprio, every other character seemed to be in the story to either explain how inception/extraction works, or to fill in diCaprio's background? It seemed like the whole dream/heist part of the story was only slapped in to give diCaprio's character a way to fight his demons. That gives it a feeling of Deus Ex Machina.

I am not going to argue the movie did not have flaws, as it clearly did,
however I dont recall other heist movies, firing mind bullets to stop the projections of another character sub-conscious.

This film was an orginal concept which envolked fresh thoughts, after it was over.
This to me is what i prefer, more brain candy than eye candy.

clived2

FrostyJack wrote: »

It kind of did as I heard quotes like "it blew me away" or "what a mind f**" from status update on Facebook etc. I was expecting something out of this world to happen at the end of every scene, but it never did, ever. That's how it affected the viewing experience. If I knew it it was just a heist movie I would have enjoyed it more but not expecting much.

Lolz

The reason for this is, because a person who constantly updates their facebook is usually a dumbass and opening a milk carton would be a mind **** to them, so in conclusion do not take movie reviews from facebook,

calahans

I feel conflicted about this movie. It was a good movie but does not deserve the praise that it is getting. I feel the talk about the movie is not from the original and fresh ideas but really from the fact that you are not given the resolution.

I found the last half hour I wasnt that bothered about the characters as I didnt think the movie had given me an emotional buy in to them. They were all very one dimiensional, but when I thought about that, if you go with the idea that its all a dream then they would be one dimensional (as are characters in a dream).

Oh and one poster said that this was Nolan doing a blockbuster and not to read into it. I read that he had this concept for almost a decase but didnt have the money to do it. It was only after the $1 billion of dark night that he was given the money to do the project.

bnt

Well, 10 days after seeing Inception, 7 of which I spent in Spain, I'm still thinking about it, and the thoughts are mostly positive. There are definitely a few plot holes, but that just means I'll enjoy the DVD when it comes out, hopefully with lots of making-of extras. (I wonder how many million dollar IMAX cameras they flattened this time?)

I think a few posters here are being deliberately contrarian, under the delusion that it demonstrates that we're all sheep and they're not. :P

FrostyJack

clived2 wrote: »

so wait when did you fiind out the ending,
was it within ten minutes as you stated earlier
or was it mid movie.....

By that logic you can never know the ending of any film until the very end as it could change suddenly at the last second. But you can make an educated guess, like I did 10 mins in, oh and guess what I was right. It was hardly rocket science. Very straight forward A to B film with no twists to speak of.

however I dont recall other heist movies, firing mind bullets to stop the projections of another character sub-conscious

No it was the representation of it, so visually it was just guys shooting at one another at point blank range and missing one another, so it was done a million times before. You can dress it up how you like but that's what it was.

clived2

FrostyJack wrote: »

By that logic you can never know the ending of any film until the very end as it could change suddenly at the last second. But you can make an educated guess, like I did 10 mins in, oh and guess what I was right. It was hardly rocket science. Very straight forward A to B film with no twists to speak of.
You were called on your bull**** and refuse to accept it, I give up.




No it was the representation of it, so visually it was just guys shooting at one another at point blank range and missing one another, so it was done a million times before. You can dress it up how you like but that's what it was.
I knew you were going to say this, "but there just shooting each other man",I did not dress it up, It was dialogue within the film, but you probably didn`t catch that, you were too busy thinking of the ending, You are one of those people who guesses the ending in every film, and thinks there a smartass when they get it right the odd time, and then proceeds to tell everyone how smart you are

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Hyzepher

Not sure if it has been mentioned yet - long thread.

Is there any chance that the movie was a dream by his wife. It was her totem not his. She seems to have control over when she appears in the dream states. She just needs to be plugged in one level up

FrostyJack

You were called on your bull**** and refuse to accept it, I give up.

I explained why I guessed the ending, if you don't understand it, it explains why your in love with the film. Don't watch Memento as you may pass out during it

I knew you were going to say this, "but there just shooting each other man",I did not dress it up, It was dialogue within the film, but you probably didn`t catch that, you were too busy thinking of the ending, You are one of those people who guesses the ending in every film, and thinks there a smartass when they get it right the odd time, and then proceeds to tell everyone how smart you are

On the contrary, I was not saying I was so smart, I was saying the film was not. Build a bridge mate. It is far from a masterpiece, but was a good way to spend 2.5 hours, unless your expecting something special like I was.

clived2

FrostyJack wrote: »

I explained why I guessed the ending, if you don't understand it, it explains why your in love with the film. Don't watch Memento as you may pass out during it

At no point did I mention, the film was too complicated for me.
Yes you explained alright, by using a point in the film that occured way after 10 mins, Did you build some sort of Time machine or something,
You should tell stephen hawking,




On the contrary, I was not saying I was so smart, I was saying the film was not. Build a bridge mate. It is far from a masterpiece, but was a good way to spend 2.5 hours, unless your expecting something special like I was.
backtracking I see again

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trustno1

FrostyJack wrote: »

Average film at best, where was the intelligence and the mind funk I was told of? Colour by numbers film, which was more like Oceans Eleven than the Matrix. I dodged all trailers and conversation of it, all I knew is it was to do with dreams and will blow my mind, yet 10 minutes in I knew what was going to happen in the end. 7 out of 10 is generous. Very disappointed.

You knew 10 minutes in what was going to happen in the end?!.. boll*ocks..

EDIT:.. oh sorry.. its now 'when the Asian guy got shot'.. :rolleyes:, are you sure it wasn't at the end of the film?!.. :pac:

krudler

This is class, just shows how clever parts of this movie really are.

kearneybobs

krudler wrote: »

This is class, just shows how clever parts of this movie really are.

Posted in this thread last night. It's quite hard to hear at first, but when you figure it out, it kinda blows your mind. In a way.

Anakin.S

Hyzepher wrote: »

Not sure if it has been mentioned yet - long thread.

Is there any chance that the movie was a dream by his wife. It was her totem not his. She seems to have control over when she appears in the dream states. She just needs to be plugged in one level up

I was thinking something along the same lines for a bit, that it was still really was a dream and he really did need to die to wake up.

clived2

trustno1 wrote: »

You knew 10 minutes in what was going to happen in the end?!.. boll*ocks..

EDIT:.. oh sorry.. its now 'when the Asian guy got shot'.. :rolleyes:, are you sure it wasn't at the end of the film?!.. :pac:

Lol, spot on,

clived2

Hyzepher wrote: »

Not sure if it has been mentioned yet - long thread.

Is there any chance that the movie was a dream by his wife. It was her totem not his. She seems to have control over when she appears in the dream states. She just needs to be plugged in one level up

I think to believe a theory such as above, one must supplement more
infomation to enhance said theory,
It is an interesting theory.
She didnt seem in control in alot of parts of the movie to me.

Renn

MIND = BLOWN

FrostyJack

7 out of 10

equals

backtracking I see again

So you are selectivly reading my posts again I see?

Yes you explained alright, by using a point in the film that occured way after 10 mins,

oh sorry.. its now 'when the Asian guy got shot'.. , are you sure it wasn't at the end of the film?!..

When did we first meet the young version of the Asian guy (can't look up his name)? 6 hours into the film? Why are you worried so much about my wording rather the film we are actually discussing? Attacking me doesn't make the film any better you know.

Xavi6

Loved it. Fantastic story and had me captivated for the full two and half hours or so. I'm not one to nit pick and prefer to look at the overall picture painted. In this case it was brilliant.

Haterz gonna hate

norrie rugger

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Totally agree on the hotel fight, I genuinely feel it is one of the greatest set pieces I've seen in a film

Agreed and TOTALLY wrecked, for me, by 5 idiotic girls behind us.
Decided that this was the time to start telling each ther funny stories and laughing. I was fit to explode.

the missus got in there first and Fawked them out of it

clived2

FrostyJack wrote: »

When did we first meet the young version of the Asian guy (can't look up his name)? 6 hours into the film? Why are you worried so much about my wording rather the film we are actually discussing? Attacking me doesn't make the film any better you know.

Dude are you serious,

When having a discussion between adults, we use words, and what words you choose is all I have to go by.

As for attacking you, I am not doing that. However you on the other hand.
Wait for it, here comes a quote from you using your words..

"Don't watch Memento as you may pass out during it"

FrostyJack

As for attacking you, I am not doing that.

Examples:

Did you build some sort of Time machine or something,
You should tell stephen hawking

You are one of those people who guesses the ending in every film, and thinks there a smartass when they get it right the odd time, and then proceeds to tell everyone how smart you are

You have not given one arguement why the film is so non-linear,original, thought provoking or worthy of 10/10, you have just argued around in circles how I couldn't possibly know the ending and times things occured in the film.
You must have missed the Memento joke, hence the smiley I left in.

abouttobebanned

This is a bit out of left field (or maybe has been mentioned elsewhere in this thread) but did anyone else think...when he was approached first about inception...that he actually did do it before...by placing the idea in the asian's head to ask him about it?

Get me?

clived2

FrostyJack wrote: »

Examples:





You have not given one arguement why the film is so non-linear,original, thought provoking or worthy of 10/10, you have just argued around in circles how I couldn't possibly know the ending and times things occured in the film.
You must have missed the Memento joke, hence the smiley I left in.

lol, I never said the film was 10 out 10

Peyton Manning

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