GAA on 4:2:2

RogerThis

Hi,

Does anybody have any info on getting the GAA games on 4:2:2?

Do you know what satellite position RTE are using this summer, or will they be using more than one?

Is there any website that has updates each weekend?
Or is it a case of using a blind scan on the day?

Which between the PC card SkyStar 2 or AzBox is better purchase for 4:2:2?

dxhound2005

Put "GAA" into the Search Box at the bottom of the page on this link to see previous feeds. The site is updated all the time but note times are CET.

http://www.satelliweb.com/index.php?section=livef

RTE mostly on 1 West, and a bigger dish helps, I have 1.1 m. The AzBox is great for feeds and with other people reporting the feeds you don't really need blind scan. I never used a computer card.

RogerThis

Here's the link so it searches for GAA automatically
http://www.satelliweb.com/index.php?section=search&q=GAA

How soon before the match will you know what frequency it's on?

I have a 1.1m dish also, but I only have a vu+ duo so no 4:2:2 straight to the TV. I'm going to try using TuxVision to stream to my PC over the weekend.

Do you know if it is possible to add a splitter to the cable so two receivers can control a DiseqC motor? Thinking of getting an AzBox:D

Nowso

Msk - premier sports are transmitting rte coverage on astra 28.2

RogerThis

With 4:2:2 you can watch all the games live that aren't been televised live on RTE or anything else. These unencrypted streams would be broadcasted back to base in RTE studios to be edited, before showing the highlights.

dxhound2005

RogerThis wrote: »

Here's the link so it searches for GAA automatically
http://www.satelliweb.com/index.php?section=search&q=GAA

How soon before the match will you know what frequency it's on?

I have a 1.1m dish also, but I only have a vu+ duo so no 4:2:2 straight to the TV. I'm going to try using TuxVision to stream to my PC over the weekend.

Do you know if it is possible to add a splitter to the cable so two receivers can control a DiseqC motor? Thinking of getting an AzBox:D

Usually loads of time. As you can see on the link the Meath Offaly feed fired up at 1136 for 1400 throw in. I put this on record and when I came back the Louth Longford game was being fed, not shown anywhere live.

Definitely recommend the AzBox if you have any interest in feeds. You could probably loop the two receivers together, not too sure if that's what you were asking.

RogerThis

@dxhound2005
What AzBox do you have? There seem to be a few good deal on ebay. €240 including delivery for the Elite HD

Do you know if you can control the DISEqC motor through a loop through on a second receiver?

tapfit2004

RogerThis wrote: »

@dxhound2005
What AzBox do you have? There seem to be a few good deal on ebay. €240 including delivery for the Elite HD

Do you know if you can control the DISEqC motor through a loop through on a second receiver?

I have Azbox premium plus. No problem with 422 also can record and watch at the same time.

Quali-tv is another option which would be a lot cheaper but can't get hd feeds.

Read up on the Azbox before jumping in, some people are not that happy with it, I think its a good box but not everyone does.

rlogue

A PC running DVBViewer connected to the appropriate satellite will work provided the right codec is installed. I use the elecard codec which is not free but it does have a trial version which allows you to test it before buying.

RogerThis

I have just ran a test for 4:2:2 using my Vu+ Duo.
I checked satelliweb.com and found a eastern european kick boxing match on at the moment.
I entered the satellite and transponder details and found a single channel.
I checked the channel on the Vu+ Duo on the TV and could only get the audio and a blank screen.
So I installed VLC player 1.0.5 on to my PC and opened the channel through the Vu+ duo web interface on my PC.
It came up straight away, no problems. The stream seems a bit interlaced but very watchable. Way better than the football streams you would see online. No commentary at all just the fight.

Apogee

tapfit2004 wrote: »

I have Azbox premium plus. No problem with 422 also can record and watch at the same time.

Can you answer some questions?

1) Is dual tuner working properly on the Premium Plus i.e. record on sat and watch terrestrial?

2) Can it do both MPEG2 and MPEG4 4:2:2?

3) Can it blindsearch? Both DVB-S and DVB-S2?

tapfit2004

Apogee wrote: »

Can you answer some questions?

1) Is dual tuner working properly on the Premium Plus i.e. record on sat and watch terrestrial?

2) Can it do both MPEG2 and MPEG4 4:2:2?

3) Can it blindsearch? Both DVB-S and DVB-S2?

1) yea it works ok, ive tried it a few times but ive 2 satellite tuners in it, i presume it would be the same with a sat and dtt tuner.

2) havent got any mpeg4 422 feeds but the mpeg2 feeds work ok, better than the qualitv. other forums report mpeg4 feeds work ok.

3) i havent used the blind search as mostly i look up satelliweb for feed lists.

i havent had time to get the most out of this box for the last couple of months ive had it. its the first linux box ive used, had a humax 5400 before. i was going to go for other dual tuner pvr's but none can do 422 so thats why i went for this.

im glad iwaited for the plus as if id bought the elite or premium and they cant watch and record at the same time i wouldnt be happy but the plus i think is ok.

i think most of the bad press comes from people who bought the earlier models and didnt get what was originally promised in the ads and i wouldnt blame them for complaining. i'm happy enough with it, it probably wont do everything its says it will but it does all i want.

tapfit2004

just found this on another forum about the blind scan.


"i've got both boxes and in my opinion the scan speed of the axbox+ is a bit faster than the spiderbox. i had it scanning 4 sats (28.2e, 23.5e, 19.2e and 13e) last night and it took about 10mins. doing a cable scan took around 15mins.
tuners in both boxes are very sensitive. not much between them. and, it is possible in the azbox to define the frequency range

however, i'm very happy with both boxes. would difficult choice between the 2"

i edited out the bits that are not allowed here.

RogerThis

Reported by stanley_cassidy on 2010-05-30 02:43 pm
Intelsat 10-02 / Thor 2-3-5 (0.8°W)
Frequency: 11509 - Pol: V - SR: 6111 - FEC: -
Category: Sport - Autres
Transmitted in: MPEG-2 4:2:2
Comments: GAA(Gaelic football)/Hurling(dvb-s2)

Kav28

Hi guys, can you confirm that the feeds are shown FTA?
Thanks, was hoping to get the Meath-Laois game this weekend and don't want to move a 1.1 dish in case I can't get it.
Thanks in advance

Apogee

The feeds are unencrypted but they are in a transmission format which 99% of FTA receivers cannot display. Only a few (e.g. AZBox, Quali TV) can as well as PC based DVB-S cards.

Kav28

Thanks for clearing that up Apogee, off to get the azbox so!

dxhound2005

Kav28 wrote: »

Hi guys, can you confirm that the feeds are shown FTA?
Thanks, was hoping to get the Meath-Laois game this weekend and don't want to move a 1.1 dish in case I can't get it.
Thanks in advance

These are the details of the feed from Croke Park on 1 West with thanks to Satelliweb. In 4:2:2 as usual. Very small crowd 15 minutes before throw in. No feed for Cork Kerry reported yet.

Fréquence: 11464 - Pol: V - SR: 6111 - FEC: -

Catégorie: Sport - Autres

Transmis en: MPEG-2 4:2:2

Infos: GAA(Gaelic football)

installer

are these feeds available this year, galway v cork today would be a god send..

tapfit2004

installer wrote: »

are these feeds available this year, galway v cork today would be a god send..

yea, they have been available so far this year on 1w and 37w anyway. Satelliweb should have them up around the throw in time of the match.

If you search for GAA in the feed records section on Satelliweb you will see the old frequencies. Scan for them as they usually use the same frequencies and just change symbol rates (6111 or 6666).

installer

Excellant news thankyou for the help, unfortunately I wasnt ready equipment wise on saturday for the galway game and chances are all further games this season will be televised but I'm gonna set up anyway and be ready for next year, wonder if the technomate tm5402hd is capable of 4:2:2 off to do some research... I also read that almost all pci cards will work, Maplin have 1 for 65 euro, I was very tempted to run in on saturday to get it but I was too commited work wise to do it. Anyone know if that card works?
Regards.

fish fingers

I was reading somewhere that you can watch th 4.2.2. Streamed through vlc media player on your pc. Go to the channel on your sat box,then put it's ip in to your browser and select the channel and stream it with vlc

Newtown90

fish fingers wrote: »

I was reading somewhere that you can watch th 4.2.2. Streamed through vlc media player on your pc. Go to the channel on your sat box,then put it's ip in to your browser and select the channel and stream it with vlc

Dead right Fish fingers..

I know the linux boxes are capable of doing it anyways

Stream to VLC and unravel the 4:2:2 feed

installer

Hmmmm I have a few linux boxes alright, none of them HD but if I get it right, you dont need it... will try at the weekend on one of the matches and report back..

Thanks..

installer

bearing in mind the majority of the posts in this thread are from last year, have there been any updates re boxes, what is best receiver to use for simple stand alone operation without the pc, is the AZ box easy to get working on this.
Cheers guys.

tapfit2004

installer wrote: »

bearing in mind the majority of the posts in this thread are from last year, have there been any updates re boxes, what is best receiver to use for simple stand alone operation without the pc, is the AZ box easy to get working on this.
Cheers guys.

the azbox will do stand alone 4.2.2 transmissions.

the qualitv receiver does them as well.

i have both and the azbox is far better and easier to use, the menus on the qualitv are terrible. the azbox has had a lot of bad press about what works and doesnt. the 4.2.2 feeds work and as long as you dont expect it to be as good as a dreambox then thats the box to go for. the cheapest option is probably the elite (i dont know the price of the newer models or if they do 4.2.2).

ebay has a few on all the time, theres one from canada for around 140 euro on there now, dont know what the post is though

installer

Here we go again lads. Never did manage to get around to doing this but was looking online for receivers yesterday, I came across some quali tv boxes really cheap but from what I can gather they don't do the hd broadcasts, is that correct. The only az boxes I could find we're the new type and couldn't see mentioned anything about 4:2:2 pic display, anyone got any ideas. Sorry to drag up an old thread.

STB

Azbox HD premium and premium+
Azbox hd elite
Azbox ME* } messy as via Aztrino 1.6
Azbox Mini ME* }
Quali-tv qs1080ir

All do H264 4:2:2.

All of the above boxes are discontinued. Opensat sold Azbox to a Chinese company. Mixeshop sell a clone of the premium+ for apx €125 last time I checked.

Any Enigma Box (Vu+/Gigablue etc) can see the feeds and then you can use the Webif function to display them on a laptop/PC using VLC.

tapfit2004

Hi

I got an original az premium plus on ebay.de for €104 +17 shipping.

You need to ask the seller to send it to Ireland first as most only send stuff to Germany

installer

thanks lads, managed to source 1 in dublin for 200 plus shipping, new az box premium hd (no doubt a clone but might be lucky). Gonna set up a spare 1.1m dish on a motor any special lnb required?

STB

You just missed out on an Elite for €110 on adverts.ie !

installer

wonder which is better, 2nd hand elite or new premium?

Tom Hanks

I think I watch 4:2:2 feeds about twice a year, when I do I just I just type in my DM's IP address into my PC & send the channel file back to it where it streams the feed via VLC without any problem.

Couldn't justify buying a box solely for something of a rare thing being viewed.

dxhound2005

O'Byrne Cup final Kildare Meath feed on 23.5 East in 4:2:2. I haven't got my AzBox connected at present but the No/Audio Video message on the F15 tells me that it is 4:2:2. Very strong signal, channel name Wyzcom Path 1 which I think I only saw before on ITN Newsfeeds.

I noticed yesterday and today that the racing feeds on 1 West from Leopardstown for RTE 2 have the channel name GAA Iarbheo. Someone didn't change it from it was being used by TG4.

23.5 East

11603 H 15000.

Kav28

Wonder will the Setanta feed from Croke Park come on early for the Hurling?

installer

if it does will you [post the details please...

dxhound2005

Setanta feed from Armagh v Down in 4:2:2. 8PSK 3/4 Pilot On. Channel name Armagh was good signal but now breaking up. Awful weather there and here.

Rugby and Ireland Wales is wrong information on Satelliweb.

Frequency: 11171 - Pol: H - SR: 6111 - FEC: -

Category: Sport - Rugby

Transmitted in: MPEG-2 4:2:0 (PAL)

Comments: Ireland-Wales U.20

installer

Is there anyone available to help me with my azbox settings, I've managed to sort out my motor and I can get signal on 23.5 east etc but when I enter data from satelliweb I get no channels found message. I must be doing something wrong

dxhound2005

installer wrote: »

Is there anyone available to help me with my azbox settings, I've managed to sort out my motor and I can get signal on 23.5 east etc but when I enter data from satelliweb I get no channels found message. I must be doing something wrong

Nearly all 4:2:2 feeds are in 8PSK. In Enigma 2 under System select DVB-S2 and under Modulation select 8PSK. But Enigma 2 is very unfriendly to the AzBox for feeds unless I am doing something wrong. You have to scan each combination of FEC with the Pilot On or Off, that is a total of 18 different combinations if you are unlucky enough not to hit the correct one earlier. And scanning is very slow and sometimes needs to be done more than once even for the right combination to produce the channel. Saying all that the most common FEC is 3/4 so try that one a couple of times first.


I have the AzBox looped through from the Dr HD receiver. I tune in the feeds on that receiver first so then I know there is a signal before going to the AzBox. But like most receivers it does not display the Modulation or FEC of the signal. The original firmware on the AzBox was much easier than Enigma 2. It let you field through all the combinations and when you found the correct one the signal bars appeared and then you scanned.

If you have a second receiver you could at least verify that the signal is there because with the AzBox you can never be sure.

I was away at the match in Clones so I did not see your plea for help earlier.

installer

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Nearly all 4:2:2 feeds are in 8PSK. In Enigma 2 under System select DVB-S2 and under Modulation select 8PSK. But Enigma 2 is very unfriendly to the AzBox for feeds unless I am doing something wrong. You have to scan each combination of FEC with the Pilot On or Off, that is a total of 18 different combinations if you are unlucky enough not to hit the correct one earlier. And scanning is very slow and sometimes needs to be done more than once even for the right combination to produce the channel. Saying all that the most common FEC is 3/4 so try that one a couple of times first.


I have the AzBox looped through from the Dr HD receiver. I tune in the feeds on that receiver first so then I know there is a signal before going to the AzBox. But like most receivers it does not display the Modulation or FEC of the signal. The original firmware on the AzBox was much easier than Enigma 2. It let you field through all the combinations and when you found the correct one the signal bars appeared and then you scanned.

If you have a second receiver you could at least verify that the signal is there because with the AzBox you can never be sure.

I was away at the match in Clones so I did not see your plea for help earlier.

Thanks for your advice bud, I tried every combo on various feeds yesterday to no avail, I'm tempted to try and install the original firmware into the receiver but although I bought it new it came with enigma 2 installed, with it almost certain to be a clone, I'm a little apprehensive about doing so. I did manage to scan in 1 feed yesterday for Italian soccer but it didn't display a picture

installer

Anyone getting Galway v Dublin today, would love to be able to pick it up, throw in is at 2pm (5 mins) but nothing up on satelliweb as of yet

dxhound2005

Kilkenny Tipperary on 23.5 East is in 4:2:2. I'm getting it on 8PSK 3/4 Pilot ON. Good strong signal.

Frequency: 11466 - Pol: H - SR: 15000 - FEC: -

Category: Sport - Autres

Transmitted in: MPEG-4

Comments: (Gaelic Games)/Hurling(s2,hdtv)

installer

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Kilkenny Tipperary on 23.5 East is in 4:2:2. I'm getting it on 8PSK 3/4 Pilot ON. Good strong signal.

Frequency: 11466 - Pol: H - SR: 15000 - FEC: -

Category: Sport - Autres

Transmitted in: MPEG-4

Comments: (Gaelic Games)/Hurling(s2,hdtv)

Didnt get chance to check it, dish gone off line so need to tweak it this week, what size dish you got, and is it only the matches that are on telly that are being shown, I thought the whole point was to get the matches that werent being televised live?

dxhound2005

installer wrote: »

Didnt get chance to check it, dish gone off line so need to tweak it this week, what size dish you got, and is it only the matches that are on telly that are being shown, I thought the whole point was to get the matches that werent being televised live?

I only put that one up because it was such a strong signal and I had confirmed that it cleared on my AzBox. People can only post what they find, nobody can make the broadcasters feed something just for our benefit. The TG4 picture is in HD on the feeds, better than my terrestrial TG4.

Not 4:2:2 but an example of a feed for a game not being televised live. If anyone wants to watch Kildare Tyrone live instead of waiting for the deferred coverage.

GAA Beo: Kildare - Tyrone

Astra 3B (23.5E) - 11483 Horizontal 5000 8PSK 3/4 DVB-S2 MPEG-4

installer

il get the dish sorted this week, been playing with different firmware images tryin to get youtube working but no luck, not even with original azbox f/ware..

STB

Thor 0.8W

Frequency: 11490 - Pol: V - SR: 6111

Transmitted in: MPEG-2 4:2:2

swoofer

I can get sound but no picture with an uno and blackhole 2.0.7. What receiver does 4:2:2? And easy to set up or does it have to be an azbox?

STB

swoofer wrote: »

I can sound but no picture with an uno andblackhole 2.0.7. What receiver does 4:2:2? And easy to set up or doesithave to bean azbox?

Yes an Azbox.

OR you use Webif function and stream it from VLC to display on a PC/laptop/tablet.

phobia2011

is it possible to do this on amiko alien 2?

dxhound2005

Dublin Mayo on 7 East 4:2:2. 8PSK 3/4 Pilot On, on AzBox. Good signal, surprised to find the Setanta feed FTA. Channel name Croke Park Dirty.

Frequency: 11162 - Pol: H - SR: 6111 - FEC: -

Apogee

I can imagine this thread will become quite a bit more popular as a result of this:

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/1/0104141419-media-rights-press-release/