family pet beaten to death in kerry

goat2

did anyone hear of a dog being killed while the family were out
the dog was beaten to death
this incident happened in kerry last friday

star-pants

All I could find was this from kerryman.ie

Wednesday May 26 2010
A WEST Kerry family whose beloved pet was savagely beaten to death on Friday are to leave their home following the appalling incident.

Very sad though

Plek Trum

*MOD NOTE* This story is quite horrible & will be upsetting for most so please on read on with caution */MOD NOTE*

I live very close to Ballyferriter where this happened.
The dog wasnt just beaten but savagely mutilated on purpose by a rather derranged and terrrifying man with deliberate intent to force the family (who are respectable people) to move.

The details are horrific. In short (if it is okay to write this) a bar was taken from the childrens trampoline and he impaled the dog through the head with it. He then cut the dogs head from its body practically and disembowled the animal.

The remains were dragged to the family's drive way and put on display as they returned with children in the car for a birthday party at their home.

The local Gardai 'talked' to the man and the matter was being left at that.

The local outage has been tremendous. I would urge people to raise this issue as much as possible and put pressure on the Gardai to have this man arrested and charged. Words cannot express the disgust at the entire situation.

toadfly

I feel sick after reading that.

As EGAR put it the law is an ass.

DePurpereWolf

I cannot believe that this man is not facing multiple years in prison.
What kind of country is this that leaves monsters walking free?

Sittingpretty

Oh my GOD. WHY? That is utterly dispicable AND disgusting and how that is treated with such apathy by the local law enforcement is truly beyond me.

seamus

Pretty sure there's very little that would stop me from inflicting the same kind of damage to this piece of **** if he did this to my dog. His life wouldn't be worth living.

changes

A name and shame would be good if people where sure who the monster is

goat2

Is there not a law against cruelty to animals,
this person should be in prison
these children are traumatised, seeing this happen to their pet, my god
where is the law
please please

Calhoun

I hope the outrage is enough too force this scummer out of where he is living. Like in other bad cases similar to this is should not just be accepted.

We should bring back ye olde form of protest and boycott them and black list them.

goat2

I cannot beleive that this is not taken further
how we put pressure on gardai
would this not be something that we should be emailing the minister about,
it is frightning

goat2

Calhoun wrote: »

I hope the outrage is enough too force this scummer out of where he is living. Like in other bad cases similar to this is should not just be accepted.

We should bring back ye olde form of protest and boycott them and black list them.

if i do not pay my tv licence
i get fined
this crime is 100 times worse, cruelty suffering
why can anyone explain, is this taken so lightly

Discodog

The only way to get the Guards to act would be to report their reluctance to prosecute to the Garda Ombudsman. They may feel that there is insufficient evidence & the victim did say on liveline that local people were unwilling or afraid to act.

Several callers raised the point that if he could do this to a dog what could he do to a human.

goat2

the dog was 11 yrs old
and on a lead
so could not run away to safety
which means he came inside the property especially to kill pet

lrushe

Hell is too good for someone like that, may he get every bit of karma due to him :mad:

fryup

It was featured in tuesday's liveline on radio 1.

Joe asked the woman did she think that someone locally might have a grudge against her for some reason, but she was at a loss to think of anyone.

She claims it was an act of violence for the sake of violence, she also hinted that the locals have information but are not willing to come forward.

Discodog

There would of been a load of forensic evidence especially on the pole etc. Why do I suspect that the Guards have done nothing to collect this ?. Did they collect the man's clothes to test for matching animal blood ?. There are animal protection laws but the Guards show no interest in enforcing them.

Sittingpretty

fryup wrote: »

It was featured in tuesday's liveline on radio 1.

she also hinted that the locals have information but are not willing to come forward.

Shame on them.

Clare Bear

Jesus Sick B*****d. I'm actually shaking with anger reading that. I hope to God something is done about it. For the dog's sake and for the poor kids that had to see that. Evil, evil b*****d :mad:

Cooper07

Words fail me! The poor dog, what an awful, awful death.

At least he had 11 years of love.

RIP little fella

morganafay

There's something really wrong with somebody who could do that, and to traumatise the children aswell . . . I'd bet he would have no problem doing that to a person if he could get away with it.

fryup

Discodog wrote: »

There would of been a load of forensic evidence especially on the pole etc. Why do I suspect that the Guards have done nothing to collect this ?. Did they collect the man's clothes to test for matching animal blood ?. There are animal protection laws but the Guards show no interest in enforcing them.

good point, but lets face it most gaurds would shrug their shoulders when it comes to animal cruelty...its just not taken seriously in this country

iguana

Is there anything that can be done by the public to put pressure on the Gardaí to treat this seriously? If there are laws in place which the killer has broken then that Gardaí are in the wrong by letting this slide.

Orla K

That is absolutely horrible, that guy should be in a mental home. I don't care about prison sentances he should be sectioned to somewhere until doctors see it fit that he knows right from wrong (which I doubt he ever will)

Could someone make this clear to be do the gardai know who did it and talk to him or do they have suspisions and talked to someone?

goat2

DePurpereWolf wrote: »

I cannot believe that this man is not facing multiple years in prison.
What kind of country is this that leaves monsters walking free?

no law for an old dog suffering brutalitly
i am seeing red

Discodog

There is plenty of adequate law to cover this - it is not as if there is any doubt regarding the cruelty. The other worrying aspect is that it appears as of none of the locals are supporting this woman. Echoes of another "Kerry" case !.

goat2

i would say that it is a case of people being afraid to come forward, as the kind of person that did this must been known to them to be dangerous and they may be afraid for their own safety, and that of their children,

any one capabel of doing this is capable of anything, this is henious,

DePurpereWolf

I'm a bit upset by the lack of information. Journalism is not what it used to be?
Anyway, if people are leaving your county because they are scared, you are doing something wrong as gardai, and maybe they should start an alternative carreer as chicken farmers.

Plek Trum

General feeling from what I can gather is that the local people 'know' who did the crime but (a) feel that as he wasn't seen actually committing the act that they can't report him to the Gardai and (b) they are truely worried for their own pets and family safety.

I cannot understand why finger prints weren't taken from the pole and cross checked against the suspect. Would seem a very obvious way to clear this up and have the man charged.

The man in question and his wife do not have a great reputation locally, they relocated to Ballyferriter from the UK a few years ago, taking advantage of the benefit system here (Wife claimed single mother status, was allocated free housing and then a few months later he moved over to join them). Sums up the type of people they are really. I have dealt with his wife on occasion through work - extremely rude and volatile.

Believe me, it isn't a case of the locals hushing things up at all. More a complete and direct failure of the Gardai to push this through by utilising all the resources open to them.

ppink

so if people know who he is and where he is then do they know why he did this??

Plek Trum

The only thing that I have heard of is the the dog was 'a barker' and that a field or 2 seperated their houses. I genuinely dont know anything other than that. Suspect in question does not have any livestock that the dog would have been chasing.

To think that an animal was mutilated in such a fashion for barking (and not next door even) is very disturbing.

convert

I heard the dog's owner (I think) on the radio on Playback on RTÉ 1 on Saturday morning. They gave a reasonable description of what happened without going into too much detail. It sounded horrific. How somebody could do that to an animal is beyond me, and then to just leave the body out for the whole family to see is just horrendous.

And what's worse is that nobody will point out who did this or go to the guards about it. Would they have the same reaction if it was a child who was tortured and killed in this way?

goat2

as she said on radio, it was a beautiful day, people going to beaches nearby, there are always people walking on fine days more so near beach, also the rent out houses there,
i wonder does someone remember the dog crying or someone inside in the garden where they should not have been, they were also trespassing as the dog was tied up, some sort of spineless monster, hope he gets what is coming to him
still wondering if they have caught any one for this, as the residents of the area must be frightened for their children and pets

Discodog

Apparently this guy moved from the UK. If this had happened there he would be in hiding or arrested. No village in England would accept this & people would be queueing up to give evidence. Never has the saying about good people standing by & allowing evil to prosper been more apt.

If, as previously posted, there is local outrage then it is time for those people to pull together & go to the Guards. If they have no faith in the local Gardai then they should contact the Commissioner or Ombudsman.

fryup

Discodog wrote: »

Apparently this guy moved from the UK. If this had happened there he would be in hiding or arrested. No village in England would accept this & people would be queueing up to give evidence. Never has the saying about good people standing by & allowing evil to prosper been more apt.

There's a big cultural gap between ireland and the uk when it comes to animal welfare......if you report something like that to police over there they take it seriously, over here they snigger down their sleeves.

as someone said before.. why wasn't there prints taken at the sence...answer..cause the gaurds couldn't be arsed.:cool:

Clare Bear

I really hope this isn't brushed under the carpet and the locals get together and do something about this. Have the ISPCA got involved at all?

Jinxi

What about a more direct route and everyone ring the police station in question continuously asking why they aren't pressing charges?

goat2

they have to know who it is, as that area is very close knit being a country area.
listning to the radio
she lived in an old farmhouse with her two boys, this dog was of great importance to her, her security, companionship, and an old pet that wag its tail every time she arrived home from errands,
the children must be broken, this thing happining at this age of their lives, what scars will this leave, their mom brokenhearted and will be for a long time, this scene will never leave her.
i look at my dog and think of this happening to him, it does not bear thinking about
this monster is a danger to the children if he can do this to an old 11 yr dog tied in its own property, my guess is that he must have some record following him, this does not come out of the blue. this is a born monster.

the sooner he is scooted out of the area the better, or better still jailed.

she was born and reared here, why should she leave where she has been for the past 12 yrs, her children have made friends there, go to the beach and it is home to them

toadfly

Jinxi wrote: »

What about a more direct route and everyone ring the police station in question continuously asking why they aren't pressing charges?

Thats what I was thinking, if they get annoyed enough they might do something. So mad and upset about this :mad:

Discodog

fryup wrote: »

There's a big cultural gap between ireland and the uk when it comes to animal welfare......if you report something like that to police over there they take it seriously, over here they snigger down their sleeves.

as someone said before.. why wasn't there prints taken at the sence...answer..cause the gaurds couldn't be arsed.:cool:

It's not just about animal welfare. It is also about sticking up for & supporting your neighbours. This man is a potential threat to everyone in the area. The attitude in a lot of rural Ireland is to not interfere & that has often resulted in bullies getting away with it.

goat2

this is what i would be thinking
look after and stick up for that young mom and her two children at their biggest time of need
what if she had let one of her children home, and they came on this monster doing this to the dog, would he have stuck the bar in the child
i think so, he is dangerous,
if it were me that knew for sure of the culprit, yes indeed i would be over to guards, and speak to this mother also.

greine

Discodog wrote: »

Apparently this guy moved from the UK. If this had happened there he would be in hiding or arrested. No village in England would accept this & people would be queueing up to give evidence. Never has the saying about good people standing by & allowing evil to prosper been more apt.

If, as previously posted, there is local outrage then it is time for those people to pull together & go to the Guards. If they have no faith in the local Gardai then they should contact the Commissioner or Ombudsman.

I am the sister and aunt of the family in question and was told today that there was a discussion on boards about what happened to Michelle (my sister) and the boys. After reading all the posts I must thank you all for the support ye have shown and while there is little comfort in the progress of this case there is much consolation in the public outrage, horror and empathy shown towards my family.

Animal rights group ARAN have put up a €5000 reward for anyone with information leading to arrest and conviction of the monster who did this. Dougal (the dog) was a placid old dog, daft as a pair of socks, slept with the cats and caused no harm to anyone or any animal. Yes, he did have a loud bark, but he's a dog and that's what they do. If the bark was a nuisance to anyone that could have been dealt with. Actually, the dog was rarely tied up outside her house, she normally brings the dog to our parents house in Dingle when she's working cos they like his company and she's happier that he's not alone. But on this day she was only going to be gone a few hours as she was preparing for her son's birthday party. After collecting the kids from school plus a few extra for the party she returned home to that unforgettable scene.

There is much speculation about who did this locally but as yet no-one has come forward with any concrete information, but we are hopeful that someone will because this has outraged the entire community and there is no doubt that someone knows who did this. Someone must have heard poor Dougal yelp as he was attacked or saw someone on her property as it is easily seen from the road to the beach. The implement used is thought to be a stake from a dismantled trampoline but we looked in the ditches and fields but didn't find it. It probably was thrown into the tide.

Again, just like to say thank you all for keeping this story in the public domain as this is the only way that we will identify the cowardly evil person who did this. If anyone knows anything at all, no matter how small or irrelevant it may seem, please contact Dingle Garda Station 066 9151522.

Irene

philstar

^^^^^^^^

your sister said on liveline that she is going to leave the area, has she done so?

goat2

thanks irene
just hoping someone will come forward to get this monster out of the midst of the people of ballyferriter,
that dog was much loved by what i have read in your post, my wish is that the truth comes out, will pray that this monster is caught
while he is free i worry about children and pets in that area, and also now wondering if there are others in that area whose dogs have gone missing for no reason, or cats did not return home, as this monster must like cruelty,
if someone did come forward and lets say, they do not want anyone to know that it is them who helped in bringing this monster in, would that be a possibility for them, could they just ring the garda and give up the name of the monster, would that be enough for them, as i guess they dont want to as they may be frightened of him coming and getting them, as he would be on the loose until court day, could their name be kept out of it

tomybhoy

It is truly disgusting, no more to say on that.

Hellrazer

Just posting a small warning on this thread.

Can we keep names and suspected names out of the thread.
Although there hasnt been any mention of names yet the mods feel that its getting too close for comfort with mentioning the persons nationality who in a small country village could be singled out as the perpetrator of this crime.
It could also cause problems if the case ever went to court.

goat2

i agree, names cannot be mentioned,
but if anyone out there know for certain or has seen someone in garden or near house on that day at times mentioned on the radio, please ring the police and get the monster where he belong
everyone is suspect until this person is caught.
for the saftey of people and children

gazzer

You would want to be some form of subhuman b**tard to do that to a dog. I really hope this person is caught and if anybody has any info as to who it is I would hope they pass it on to the gardai. I have 2 dogs and if that happened to either of them I think I would kill the person if I found out who it was.

I am just utterly disgusted at this world sometimes.

Michael B

So sorry for what happened to your sister and the kids Irene. RIP Dougal, I hope to God this person is caught and punished. Hope the kids are doing okay.

greine

Hellrazer wrote: »

Just posting a small warning on this thread.

Can we keep names and suspected names out of the thread.
Although there hasnt been any mention of names yet the mods feel that its getting too close for comfort with mentioning the persons nationality who in a small country village could be singled out as the perpetrator of this crime.
It could also cause problems if the case ever went to court.

I agree totally and also would like to add that nationality or race has nothing to do with this. Please do refrain from spreading rumours that may affect this small community, like I said investigations are on going and NO ONE has been charged yet. Anyone who is speculating on this thread is doing so without our support and their content is totally unfounded.

Hellrazer

greine wrote: »

I agree totally and also would like to add that nationality or race has nothing to do with this.

I wasnt making the point about nationality--that has nothing to do with the case in question--the point I was making is that there was speculation from some users that the person was from the UK and in a small rural village its not too hard to spot an "outsider" so to speak even if that outsider is from say Dublin.

The other side of this is that there may be more than one "outsider" who could be the victim of intimidation just because they are of the same nationality as the supposed person that carried out the crime.