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Blah blah, pointless argument on camping

  • 17-05-2010 7:08pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭


    MOD NOTE: I took all of these posts from the Sunshine and lollipops thread. See my note on post 73
    r3nu4l.

    I was there for all of 10 seconds- not what I would have thought normally constituted camping.

    Hiding in the grass where no one can see you , waiting for some one to run past is camping . Be in 10secs or 10mins :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Stratige


    ZOMG camper!!!!!!

    What do you want him to do, stand out in the open and declare through his mic to everyone else where he is?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    Stratige wrote: »
    ZOMG camper!!!!!!

    What do you want him to do, stand out in the open and declare through his mic to everyone else where he is?

    I don't really give a **** what he does to be honest tbh

    Hes the one that basically told everyone he went and hid in the grass for yer man to come back for a revenge kill . You think thats not camping ??

    I suppose its not camping because he knew yer man was coming back :rolleyes: I suppose he wouldnt have killed any of yer man's teammates if they ran past because then it would be camping :rolleyes:

    ffs lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,321 ✭✭✭Jackobyte


    I don't really give a **** what he does to be honest tbh

    Hes the one that basically told everyone he went and hid in the grass for yer man to come back for a revenge kill . You think thats not camping ??

    I suppose its not camping because he knew yer man was coming back :rolleyes: I suppose he wouldnt have killed any of yer man's teammates if they ran past because then it would be camping :rolleyes:

    ffs lol
    TBH, you think way too much into the game. Who cares if he "camped", it's a game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Stratige


    Hes the one that basically told everyone he went and hid in the grass for yer man to come back for a revenge kill. You think thats not camping?
    I'm sorry, I can't find the exact definition of "camping" in the call of duty encyclopedia but what he did sounds like quite a good strategy.

    Weaker players tend to use the term "camping" as a crutch because they were outplayed.

    It's up to them if they want to leggit around aimlessly or sit in a corner but if you want to win you have to strategize against that and come up with a better move.

    Why wouldn't you want to exploit another players weakness?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    Stratige wrote: »
    I'm sorry, I can't find the exact definition of "camping" in the call of duty encyclopedia but what he did sounds like quite a good strategy.

    Weaker players tend to use the term "camping" as a crutch because they were outplayed.

    It's up to them if they want to leggit around aimlessly or sit in a corner but if you want to win you have to strategize against that and come up with a better move.

    Why wouldn't you want to exploit another players weakness?

    Well come back to me when you do


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    Stratige wrote: »
    I'm sorry, I can't find the exact definition of "camping" in the call of duty encyclopedia but what he did sounds like quite a good strategy.

    Weaker players tend to use the term "camping" as a crutch because they were outplayed.

    It's up to them if they want to leggit around aimlessly or sit in a corner but if you want to win you have to strategize against that and come up with a better move.

    Why wouldn't you want to exploit another players weakness?

    Let me put it to you like this .........I'm playing in that game on underpass . I have 4 kills doing quite nicely so I decide to head for the building where the snipers always are . On my way there I get killed , when I look at the killcam I notice the lad was actually sitting in the grass waiting for someome to run by . Would you not say to yourself "the camping bastard" lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Stratige wrote: »
    I'm sorry, I can't find the exact definition of "camping" in the call of duty encyclopedia but what he did sounds like quite a good strategy.

    Weaker players tend to use the term "camping" as a crutch because they were outplayed.

    It's up to them if they want to leggit around aimlessly or sit in a corner but if you want to win you have to strategize against that and come up with a better move.

    Why wouldn't you want to exploit another players weakness?


    killing people who go back to revenge kill you is just easy kills, I do it myself sometimes, I dont get why people think you're going to be standing in the exact same spot tho, at least move a bit!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Stratige


    Let me put it to you like this .........I'm playing in that game on underpass . I have 4 kills doing quite nicely so I decide to head for the building where the snipers always are . On my way there I get killed , when I look at the killcam I notice the lad was actually sitting in the grass waiting for someome to run by . Would you not say to yourself "the camping bastard" lol
    I'd be annoyed that I got killed and i'd just adjust to the game knowing that next time I pass that area there might be a guy in the grass, simple.

    How is calling him a "camping bastard" going to benefit me?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Stratige


    krudler wrote: »
    killing people who go back to revenge kill you is just easy kills, I do it myself sometimes, I dont get why people think you're going to be standing in the exact same spot tho, at least move a bit!
    Exactly, that's what I mean!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Let me put it to you like this .........I'm playing in that game on underpass . I have 4 kills doing quite nicely so I decide to head for the building where the snipers always are . On my way there I get killed , when I look at the killcam I notice the lad was actually sitting in the grass waiting for someome to run by . Would you not say to yourself "the camping bastard" lol

    to be fair I've been accused of being a camping bastard when I've heard/seen a guy running towards me while i was going through an area or building and just stopped and shot him. people do get really overreactive when they get killed, its different when theres a guy lying prone with shotguns surrounded by claymores, those players may as well pack a tent :pac: but this idea that standing still=camping is a bit ridiculous. same as when I want to use a killstreak or reload something like a LMG, I'm not gonna stand in full view doing it, I'm gonna clamber in behind something or dive into some grass and do it there so I wont get shot, camping accusations be damned.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    Stratige wrote: »
    I'd be annoyed that I got killed and i'd just adjust to the game knowing that next time I pass that area there might be a guy in the grass, simple.

    How is calling him a "camping bastard" going to benefit me?

    Only an idiot would go back knowing there is a lad hiding in the grass , and thats what hes doing ...........hes hiding/camping for kills , be they revenge or any other type .

    Everyone plays defensive from time to time , I do it in most games if I need one kill for a pavelow or a harrier but I NEVER sit in the grass waiting for someone to run by . Theres nothing in this game that annoys me as much as a lad hiding in the grass , more so lads that spend the entire game playing like that .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Only an idiot would go back knowing there is a lad hiding in the grass , and thats what hes doing ...........hes hiding/camping for kills , be they revenge or any other type .

    Everyone plays defensive from time to time , I do it in most games if I need one kill for a pavelow or a harrier but I NEVER sit in the grass waiting for someone to run by . Theres nothing in this game that annoys me as much as a lad hiding in the grass , more so lads that spend the entire game playing like that .

    Thats what grenades are for ;) alhough then you get accused of being a noobtuber...by the camper, its all swings and roundabouts isnt it :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    krudler wrote: »
    to be fair I've been accused of being a camping bastard when I've heard/seen a guy running towards me while i was going through an area or building and just stopped and shot him. people do get really overreactive when they get killed, its different when theres a guy lying prone with shotguns surrounded by claymores, those players may as well pack a tent :pac: but this idea that standing still=camping is a bit ridiculous. same as when I want to use a killstreak or reload something like a LMG, I'm not gonna stand in full view doing it, I'm gonna clamber in behind something or dive into some grass and do it there so I wont get shot, camping accusations be damned.

    tbf Krudler , I have a serious amount of game time on MW2 .I'm not an complete idiot lol, I know when a lad is camping and when one is just playing defensive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    tbf Krudler , I have an serious amount of game time on MW2 .I'm not an complete idiot lol, I know when a lad is camping and when one is just playing defensive

    Same here, I dont mind a guy holding down a building and moving around in it, checking windows and at least trying to kill people he sees coming towards him, but lying prone in a will used area blasting the ankles off people who run past is annoying, nothing worse than seeing your killcam and all you see is a pair of shotguns at ground level aimed at nothing and then yourself appears from the shins down and you're dead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,039 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    Only an idiot would go back knowing there is a lad hiding in the grass , and thats what hes doing ...........hes hiding/camping for kills , be they revenge or any other type .

    Eh one kill because I knew the idiot would come looking for me. Let me give you more detail.

    I was coming from the 'hut' on the other side of Underpass. I walked down the alley that leads to the sewer type area. I walked up there keeping an eye out for anyone that would come out of the 'cabin' area. I walked on up towards the grassy area where the shipping containers are. When I got there the chap came running out around the corner and into my SCAR-H. I shot him and as I was reloading he must have spawned around the corner as he almost immediately came running through the same area so I shot and killed him for the second time.

    I had a gut feeling that he would come the same way again looking for a revenge kill. So I waited a few seconds and lo and behold he came running, not walking into the same area. So I came out of the grass and shot him with the Magnum. After that I went around the corner, where he had come from and into the warehouse area. I went down the steps and into the open area, walked up the steps and back to the 'hut' where I had come from.


    Most definetly not my idea of what camping is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭Jev/N




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Stratige


    Only an idiot would go back knowing there is a lad hiding in the grass
    I'll try again... next time i'm PASSING that area I will take into consideration the fact that YES there MAY BE a guy in the grass. I did not say I would go back there looking for him.

    Don't get egotistical in a video game looking to seek revenge on other players because they outplayed you, just get on with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    Stratige wrote: »
    I'll try again... next time i'm PASSING that area I will take into consideration the fact that YES there MAY BE a guy in the grass. I did not say I would go back there looking for him.

    Don't get egotistical in a video game looking to seek revenge on other players because they outplayed you, just get on with it.

    LOL Jesus ............where did I say/mention you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Stratige


    Stratige wrote: »
    I'm sorry, I can't find the exact definition of "camping"
    Well come back to me when you do

    I'm back, found it...

    Camping is an outdoor recreational activity. The participants, known as campers, leave urban areas, their home region, or civilization and enjoy nature while spending one or several nights, usually at a campsite, which may have cabins. Camping may involve the use of a tent, a primitive structure, or no shelter at all.


  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    Definition of camping in FPS games is somewhat blurred it must be said.

    TBH I don't see much wrong in what Kintarō did. I'm sure vast majority of people have done what he has done including myself I'm sure.

    If people are stupid enough to rush through areas where they were killed like a bunch of headless chickens, that is their fault for being so stupid.

    Camping for me is someone spending a lengthy time in one spot and waiting for enemies to come through without budging. That's my thinking on campers anyway.

    Waiting for 10 seconds is nothing IMHO.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    I don't understand why it has to be an extended amount of time ? I mean if I run into a room , lie down on the floor with my shotgun , kill the first lad that walks in after a few secs. Then jump up and do the exact same thing in the next room , im I not camping ?? If I'm playing on underpass and as soon as the game starts I turn around and hide in grass , couple of minutes pass , a lad runs by I kill him . Then I move up into the long grass behind the little hut where the sniper would be , I wait , then 10secs later a lad comes running around the corner , I kill him too . Then I move back to where I was at the start and wait hidden in the grass for another few secs for my next victim .

    Time should have no bearing on it :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭hightower1


    discount-tent2.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Stratige


    I run into a room , lie down on the floor with my shotgun , kill the first lad that walks in after a few secs. Then jump up and do the exact same thing in the next room
    Sounds like a good strategy you have there..... better than leggin it around aimlessly and getting picked off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭hightower1


    I think the best way to define camping is ask yourself if every other player was acting like this would it be an enjoyable match.... if the answer is no then your camping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Stratige wrote: »
    Sounds like a good strategy you have there..... better than leggin it around aimlessly and getting picked off.

    Works well for the E!RE clan :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    krudler wrote: »
    Works well for the E!RE clan :pac:

    ZING !!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    Stratige wrote: »
    Sounds like a good strategy you have there..... better than leggin it around aimlessly and getting picked off.

    thats about as funny as your first "joke" that took about a hour to come up with :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    ZING !!!!

    Was playing against one of them on FFA last week, christ he may as well have had a tent and fire with the amount of camping he was doing. I had a quick spectate around first to see if anyone was boosting and the second player i flick to is sitting at the top of the stairs in one of the buildings on Rundown, double shotties in hand pointing down the stairs, easy kill tho as I knew where he was :D

    actually thats a good question, do people consider spectating at the beginning of a FFA match cheating? you get to see where everyone is before you jump into the match, now the way I figure it is if you're extreme camping or boosting then you're fair game and if you're moving around by the time I get into the game you'll be long gone anyway so it wont matter so its not that much of an advantage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Stratige


    thats about as funny as your first "joke" that took you about an hour to come up with :pac:
    That wasn't a "joke".

    What was my first "joke"? please enlighten me.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Stratige


    Creasy_bear, do you mind me asking what age you are?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    Stratige wrote: »
    That wasn't a "joke".

    What was my first "joke"? please enlighten me.

    re : camping being uban folk yada yada


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    Stratige wrote: »
    Creasy_bear, do you mind me asking what age you are?

    I do as a matter of fact


  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    I don't understand why it has to be an extended amount of time ? I mean if I run into a room , lie down on the floor with my shotgun , kill the first lad that walks in after a few secs. Then jump up and do the exact same thing in the next room , im I not camping ?? If I'm playing on underpass and as soon as the game starts I turn around and hide in grass , couple of minutes pass , a lad runs by I kill him . Then I move up into the long grass behind the little hut where the sniper would be , I wait , then 10secs later a lad comes running around the corner , I kill him too . Then I move back to where I was at the start and wait hidden in the grass for another few secs for my next victim .

    Time should have no bearing on it :confused:

    I presume you just constantly run in all guns blazing without even stopping to reload?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Stratige wrote: »
    Creasy_bear, do you mind me asking what age you are?

    Old enough to have a Man On Fire reference username :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    I presume you just constantly run in all guns blazing without even stopping to reload?

    No , I don't , I just don't camp :confused:

    am I camping in the above situations or not ??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Stratige


    re : camping being uban folk yada yada
    That was taken off wikipedia, it's a definition of camping, no joke.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    Stratige wrote: »
    That was taken off wikipedia, that's a definition of camping, no joke.

    and youre asking me what age I am ;)


  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    Right so just to get things straight...

    I could be standing/crouched/prone still in a room for more than say for a a couple of seconds or hell even 1 second be it with a FAL/50 Cal/Spas/M9 and that would be classified as camping?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    Right so just to get things straight...

    I could be standing/crouched/prone still in a room for more than say for a a couple of seconds or hell even 1 second be it with a FAL/50 Cal/Spas/M9 and that would be classified as camping?

    :confused: I don't know where youre getting all of that from but ...........if youre lying down in a room with your shotgun waiting for someone to come through the door then yes you are camping . Unless of course you've just legged it in and some lad is racing in after you .......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Stratige


    Creasy_bear.

    What's the timeframe on stillness that doesn't constitute camping?

    How long am I allowed stay in one room for?

    Can I lay down when i'm in the room?

    If so, for how long?


    Am I allowed kill people that come into the room, with my shotgun?

    If I hear someone coming should I give a warning out on my mic and let them know i'm in there?

    When I see you coming and I know you don't know where i'am and your 1 kill away from your killstreak, should I just let you pass?

    How many players am I allowed to kill in one area of the map before it's considered camping?

    Thanks.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Stratige


    and youre asking me what age I am
    Correct


  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    :rolleyes:

    I won't say anything cause your're clearly looking for a reaction unless you're just not very bright.

    But seriously in 12 years of playing FPS games your comment is right up there with the most bizarre things I've heard or read in regards to camping.

    I'll leave it at that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    :rolleyes:

    I won't say anything cause your're clearly looking for a reaction unless you're just not very bright.

    But seriously in 12 years of playing FPS games your comment is right up there with the most bizarre things I've heard or read in regards to camping.

    I'll leave it at that.

    pisst

    you should tell your mate the same , I don't think he knows what a WUM is

    is he new to the internet ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Stratige


    I'm waiting for answers to those questions creasy_bear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    Stratige wrote: »
    I'm waiting for answers to those questions creasy_bear.

    I'd rather iron my sack than read anymore of your jibberish posts ;)

    xx nite nite babez


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Stratige


    xx nite nite babez
    <3 my creasy bear


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,039 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    ... , lie down on the floor with my shotgun , ...
    .but ...........if youre lying down in a room with your shotgun waiting for someone to come through the door .......

    I wasn't lying down, I was crouched. Anywhoo the last few pages have produced much sillyness. I know I wasn't camping and I have no problem with it. T'was a tactical move (knew he'd be coming).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,692 ✭✭✭shawpower


    Will you give it a break guys. It's tiresome trying to find on topic posts amid your WUM posts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭brian plank


    im confused. why is creasy bear a dirty camper?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    im confused. why is creasy bear a dirty camper?

    why does that not suprise me :D

    beacuse its the easiest way to get kills ;)


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