Increasing English Influence

akkadian

I'm highly disturbed by the increased Brit influence in Ireland. There are many English people in Ireland that are being assimilated into our culture and they're fine with me but

I never asked for the Sun, The Mirror and all the other crappy tabloid papers here. They're un-Irish. And most importantly, they're doing exactly what I'd expect Brit things to do: They're putting Ireland down.

All I see is Curry's with an add rewarding people with cash when France get knocked out of the world cup. Robbie Keane even admitted that he'd do the same thing - strikers instinct. France is a republic like ours (at least it was like we were). They've only ever been a a friend to Ireland and even sent ships over to help fight the English once upon a time.

I just saw the latest Sun add. It featured Kevin Moran and Niall Quinn talking about France not being good enough to be in the world cup. You sheeple that think this isn't propaganda had better wake up. This is the same Sun that backed the Torries. They'rr meddlers.

There is not a significant right-wing English influence in this country that is very dangerous. I'm not saying the Herald (which I read is perfect) but it's better than the imported tabloid crap.

And NO. It's not "born here, bred here, read here". You people who buy into this need to wake up. We are not the UK. I'm sure the Sun and the Mirror and D4 would like us to be but we're not, and you're going to have to trample on my dead body to change that? Comprende?

p.s We are not Europe either. We need to clean all these charlatans out of here. Give up your over-indulgent, piggy greed and accept a poorer lifestyle for a while.

I know many of you are happy to piss all over Daniel O'Connel's grave, and Michael Collins, and Cosgrave's etc. but I'm afraid I'm going to have to try and stop u.

Sonnenblumen

What Ireland do you speak of?

Daemos

Move to America

The Herald is sh1t.

starbelgrade

akkadian wrote: »

I know many of you are happy to piss all over Daniel O'Connel's grave, and Michael Collins, and Cosgrave's etc. but I'm afraid I'm going to have to try and stop u.

Armed with what - your copy of The Evening Herald?

o1s1n

So...what you're saying is we need to start reading French newspapers?

Donny5

It's like reading An tOinniún.

Stinicker

Let me see,

England

or

France,

hmm.....




God save the Queen

toiletduck

There'll be far more Irish shouting against England in the World Cup than against France.

Fear not OP.

The_Kew_Tour

Welcome to weekly British/English bashing thread

Liam Byrne

akkadian wrote: »

There is not a significant right-wing English influence in this country that is very dangerous

You'd prefer if there were a significant right-wing English influence, then ?

akkadian wrote: »

And NO. It's not "born here, bred here, read here".

Isn't that the Sunday World slogan ?

starbelgrade

The Evening Herald is Dublin's favourite newspaper - read mostly by taximen who love to complain about all things foreign - then taken from dustbins by jaykies to mop the previous night's sick & sh*t off their tracksuits.

Or so I read once in The Evening Herald.

FarmerGreen

>I know many of you are happy to piss all over Daniel O'Donnels grave.
No you don't.

Indubitable

and the Irish equivalent to Nick Griffin emerges.....

starbelgrade

kingofthe3rdyrs wrote: »

and the Irish equivalent to Nick Griffin emerges.....

Mick Mc Griffin.

segaBOY

akkadian wrote: »

I'm highly disturbed by the increased Brit influence in Ireland. There are many English people in Ireland that are being assimilated into our culture and they're fine with me but

The Brit influence is annoying alright, but I have never met an English man living in Ireland that I didn't like, whether they "assimilated" or not, it's only across the pond.

I never asked for the Sun, The Mirror and all the other crappy tabloid papers here. They're un-Irish. And most importantly, they're doing exactly what I'd expect Brit things to do: They're putting Ireland down.

I never asked for Amanda Brunker and the Sunday World either, all tabloids "put us down" one way or another, normally by making up our minds for us and quenching any informed opinion we may develop. That's not exactly a British thing, most tabloids are owned by Rupert Murdoch who is from Australia.

All I see is Curry's with an add rewarding people with cash when France get knocked out of the world cup. Robbie Keane even admitted that he'd do the same thing - strikers instinct. France is a republic like ours (at least it was like we were). They've only ever been a a friend to Ireland and even sent ships over to help fight the English once upon a time.

It's to do with the Tierry Henry handball fiasco.

I just saw the latest Sun add. It featured Kevin Moran and Niall Quinn talking about France not being good enough to be in the world cup. You sheeple that think this isn't propaganda had better wake up. This is the same Sun that backed the Torries. They'rr meddlers.

The Sun also backed Labour once upon a time, even the Page 3 girls were gunning for them.

There is not a significant right-wing English influence in this country that is very dangerous. I'm not saying the Herald (which I read is perfect) but it's better than the imported tabloid crap.

I don't think they are really, those who read them tend not to have a lesser opinion on political matters.

And NO. It's not "born here, bred here, read here". You people who buy into this need to wake up. We are not the UK. I'm sure the Sun and the Mirror and D4 would like us to be but we're not, and you're going to have to trample on my dead body to change that? Comprende?

Ok...

p.s We are not Europe either. We need to clean all these charlatans out of here. Give up your over-indulgent, piggy greed and accept a poorer lifestyle for a while.

I know many of you are happy to piss all over Daniel O'Connel's grave, and Michael Collins, and Cosgrave's etc. but I'm afraid I'm going to have to try and stop u.

Piss all over who's graves? Daniel O'Connell was not a perfect Irish patriot as some would make him out to be. He demanded handsome fees for anything he did, including the likes of the repeal association or defending anyone in court. He even happily defended a British (well Anglo Irish anyway) Landlord after murdering a native Irish woman. Harldy a perfect patriot to be quoting but that's a story for another day.

stovelid

....

wonton

akkadian wrote: »

I know many of you are happy to piss all over Daniel O'Connel's grave, and Michael Collins, and Cosgrave's etc.

I mite piss all over daniel o'connel's grave
I mite piss all over michael collins
but i'd never piss all over cosgrave's etc!

Indubitable

I would be too afraid to piss in a graveyard

brianthebard

Em, all those papers have been sold in Ireland since their inception OP. How can you get more influential than direct rule from Westminster in fairness? OP is odd.

L.Jenkins

Should we be chasing the Brits out of Ireland again? I can't anymore burning sticks and pitchforks!

segaBOY

djhunter30 wrote: »

Should we be chasing the Brits out of Ireland again? I can't anymore burning sticks and pitchforks!

All the British sympathiser newsagents anyway.

Offy

Thats the funniest thing Ive read in ages, thank you

FarmerGreen

Roger Casement was a bit of a lad. How come no one speaks his name?

The_Kew_Tour

Why the hell do we care about what the English do anyway

RoyalMarine

wow...

maybe its time to make everything in ireland for irish only.

we can hang signs in windows saying "irish only"

or would "no color's" suit you better?

grow up and realise the whole shíte against england is over. sadly, you were born 100 years too late.

L.Jenkins

adrian280582 wrote: »

Why the hell do we care about what the English do anyway

It's not that I care for the Brits, but they have an island of there own. You think they'd fúck off back to it and stop peddling there shíte here.

segaBOY

adrian280582 wrote: »

Why the hell do we care about what the English do anyway

Because they are our neighbour and significant trading partner. It is also the nation which many Irish people have moved to over the years. I guarantee you there is very few Irish people that don;t have some relative or friend living in the UK.

Carsinian Thau

akkadian wrote: »

I'm highly disturbed by the increased Brit influence in Ireland.

It must be so nice to have fvck all to actually worry about.

akkadian wrote: »

All I see is Curry's with an add rewarding people with cash when France get knocked out of the world cup.

Might I suggest that you try looking around instead of fixing in your head in front of these ads?

akkadian wrote: »

you're going to have to trample on my dead body to change that? Comprende?

You really wouldn't be worth the effort.

akkadian wrote: »

p.s We are not Europe either. We need to clean all these charlatans out of here. Give up your over-indulgent, piggy greed and accept a poorer lifestyle for a while.

We are in Europe. Try looking in an Atlas sometime.

akkadian wrote: »

I know many of you are happy to piss all over Daniel O'Connel's grave, and Michael Collins, and Cosgrave's etc. but I'm afraid I'm going to have to try and stop u.

No interest in doing anything like that. But I will admit to being amused by the thought of you trying to influence me in any way.

P.S: I think you should get a hobby. Might help you.

MrStuffins

800 years yadda yadda

Michael Collins blah blah

You seem happy enough when you're watching a British game, watching such games in a stadium named after a British Organisation (built for the purposes of housing 2 English games)

It seems you only live in the past when it suits you!

FarmerGreen

They got scotland wales india australia canada.
But they got their arses kicked out of Ireland.
Like the yanks in vietnam.
How tewwibly embarrasing.

amacachi

The sooner the English "assimilate" here and everywhere else they are and the Irish "assimilate" everywhere they are and every other nationality does the same perhaps this them and us mentality will die out.

rockmongrel

FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM!

segaBOY

RoyalMarineComm wrote: »

wow...

maybe its time to make everything in ireland for irish only.

we can hang signs in windows saying "irish only"

or would "no color's" suit you better?

grow up and realise the whole shíte against england is over. sadly, you were born 100 years too late.

There is still certainly a time and place for nationalism and pride in our independence. I feel that out national heritage and culture needs to be preserved and developed, I also feel that patriotism and National pride has died a death in recent years and needs to be preserved-look at the French or even the Brits, they all showcase their pride in their own way.

But of course the whole "F**k the Brits" mentality needs to be banished, we have to be able to show we are a mature civilised country on a global front that still respects the struggle of those who have gone before is who fought for our freedom. That means preserving some level of Irishness and national pride.

Bloody Nipples

akkadian wrote: »

p.s We are not Europe either. We need to clean all these charlatans out of here. Give up your over-indulgent, piggy greed and accept a poorer lifestyle for a while.

I know many of you are happy to piss all over Daniel O'Connel's grave, and Michael Collins, and Cosgrave's etc. but I'm afraid I'm going to have to try and stop u.

First step in accepting a poorer lifestyle: disconnect your modem please.

johngalway

akkadian wrote: »

They're un-Irish.

Look out! There's Red Tops under the bed!

But seriously, while I disagree with some things you say I do agree with others. High street shops, boots, debenhams, supermarkets like tescos, UK papers. There is too much of "that sort of thing".

Still, we live in a somewhat free society so money talks and people make their choices.

I'm going off in another direction and going to do my own thing. I'll let others worry about what crap is on X Factor, or get bottled because you disagree with some idiot both supporting over paid pre madonnas who play a foreign game (non political here) in a foreign country.

Immerse yourself in it, or don't, it's your choice. I know enough about Irish people to know making an issue about the things you're criticizing will only make people here more interested in them if anything.

I do ramble after the witching hour....

johngalway

I can't believe I posted a half serious reply, mistakenly thought I was over in Politics :rolleyes:

akkadian

akkadian wrote: »

I never asked for the Sun, The Mirror and all the other crappy tabloid papers here. They're un-Irish.

Well don't buy them!

starbelgrade

Frankly, I'm more concerned with the increasing influence of idiots in the country.

MrStuffins

I wonder does this guy get the irony that his messae in written in English?

segaBOY

johngalway wrote: »

Look out! There's Red Tops under the bed!

But seriously, while I disagree with some things you say I do agree with others. High street shops, boots, debenhams, supermarkets like tescos, UK papers. There is too much of "that sort of thing".

Still, we live in a somewhat free society so money talks and people make their choices.

I'm going off in another direction and going to do my own thing. I'll let others worry about what crap is on X Factor, or get bottled because you disagree with some idiot both supporting over paid pre madonnas who play a foreign game (non political here) in a foreign country.

Immerse yourself in it, or don't, it's your choice. I know enough about Irish people to know making an issue about the things you're criticizing will only make people here more interested in them if anything.

I do ramble after the witching hour....

Summed that up quite nicely.

GLaDOS

Wot you talkin' 'bout guv?

Dionysus

akkadian wrote: »

I know many of you are happy to piss all over Daniel O'Connel's grave, and Michael Collins, and Cosgrave's etc.

Whatever about the rest of your post - and your sentiment is understandable and widely shared even if it definitely needs a bit more plámás to it - Daniel O'Connell isn't much of a hero in the annals of Irish history.

1. It was O'Connell who coined the phrase 'West Briton' in 1832, offering himself as one:

"The people of Ireland are ready to become a portion of the Empire, provided they be made so in reality and not in name alone; they are ready to become a kind of West Briton if made so in benefits and justice; but if not, we are Irishmen again."

2. It was O'Connell who sold the 40-shilling freeholders down the swanny as part of the deal which allowed him and his allies to sit in the British parliament under the Catholic Relief Act 1829 ("Catholic Emancipation"). Over 100,000 of them were disenfranchised when the property requirement to be eligible to vote was increased from 40 shillings to a massive £10 (in order to keep a check on the political power of Catholics).

3. And it was Daniel O'Connell, the same guy who professed to be against violence to achieve a political aim, who was entirely comfortable fighting for the British Empire under the guise of the Yeomanry against the United Irishmen and Defenders in 1798.


All in all, the guy was not Ireland's finest hour.

starbelgrade

Dionysus wrote: »

Whatever about the rest of your post - and your sentiment is understandable and widely shared even if it definitely needs a bit more plámás to it - Daniel O'Connell isn't much of a hero in the annals of Irish history.

1. It was O'Connell who coined the phrase 'West Briton' in 1832, offering himself as one:

"The people of Ireland are ready to become a portion of the Empire, provided they be made so in reality and not in name alone; they are ready to become a kind of West Briton if made so in benefits and justice; but if not, we are Irishmen again."

2. It was O'Connell who sold the 40-shilling freeholders down the swanny as part of the deal which allowed him and his allies to sit in the British parliament under the Catholic Relief Act 1829 ("Catholic Emancipation"). Over 100,000 of them were disenfranchised when the property requirement to be eligible to vote was increased from 40 shillings to a massive £10 (in order to keep a check on the political power of Catholics).

3. And it was Daniel O'Connell, the same guy who professed to be against violence to achieve a political aim, who was entirely comfortable fighting for the British Empire under the guise of the Yeomanry against the United Irishmen and Defenders in 1798.


All in all, the guy was not Ireland's finest hour. John Mitchel had the measure of him better than most.

Facts are like statistics - you can prove anything with them, but ultimately, they are meaningless.

Dionysus

johngalway wrote: »

...High street shops...

Ahem.

segaBOY

starbelgrade wrote: »

Facts are like statistics - you can prove anything with them, but ultimately, they are meaningless.

I don't think so. O'Connell has to be one of the most over played "patriots" in Irish history. He was not an ideal supporter of Irish independence by any means.

starbelgrade

segaBOY wrote: »

I don't think so. O'Connell has to be one of the most over played "patriots" in Irish history. He was not an ideal supporter of Irish independence by any means.

I was taking the p*ss. Didn't you see the smiley face?!?!?!!!!

Mr Benevolent

akkadian wrote: »

I'm highly disturbed by the increased Brit influence in Ireland. There are many English people in Ireland that are being assimilated into our culture and they're fine with me but

I never asked for the Sun, The Mirror and all the other crappy tabloid papers here. They're un-Irish. And most importantly, they're doing exactly what I'd expect Brit things to do: They're putting Ireland down.

All I see is Curry's with an add rewarding people with cash when France get knocked out of the world cup. Robbie Keane even admitted that he'd do the same thing - strikers instinct. France is a republic like ours (at least it was like we were). They've only ever been a a friend to Ireland and even sent ships over to help fight the English once upon a time.

I just saw the latest Sun add. It featured Kevin Moran and Niall Quinn talking about France not being good enough to be in the world cup. You sheeple that think this isn't propaganda had better wake up. This is the same Sun that backed the Torries. They'rr meddlers.

There is not a significant right-wing English influence in this country that is very dangerous. I'm not saying the Herald (which I read is perfect) but it's better than the imported tabloid crap.

And NO. It's not "born here, bred here, read here". You people who buy into this need to wake up. We are not the UK. I'm sure the Sun and the Mirror and D4 would like us to be but we're not, and you're going to have to trample on my dead body to change that? Comprende?

p.s We are not Europe either. We need to clean all these charlatans out of here. Give up your over-indulgent, piggy greed and accept a poorer lifestyle for a while.

I know many of you are happy to piss all over Daniel O'Connel's grave, and Michael Collins, and Cosgrave's etc. but I'm afraid I'm going to have to try and stop u.

So you're saying... what? That football ads are bad for the country? Tabloids are bad for the country? Xenophobia is good?

Give up your over-indulgent, piggy greed and accept a poorer lifestyle for a while.

Ha. You've described the Irish to a tee. The irony of you hating tabloids while spouting textbook tabloid opinions is interesting to say the least.

Just to complete the picture, are you an IRA sympathiser by any chance?

segaBOY

starbelgrade wrote: »

I was taking the p*ss. Didn't you see the smiley face?!?!?!!!!

FarmerGreen

Before I was born.
The dead dont rule the living.
Its ours now.
Take a breath, take a step into the future

johngalway

Dionysus wrote: »

Ahem.

I know It was (though this won't fly retrospectively) intentional and I was supposed to add a note on it after wards. Not only do I ramble at this hour, I'm also half asleep

That's my excuse and I'm a stickin' to it