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So I've got Jury Duty tomorrow...

  • 10-05-2010 7:02pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭


    Who's done it? Is it fun? Interesting? Exciting? Unlikely I know, but I've watched far too many movies about it. All I know is that you're not guaranteed to be called up, especially not if you're as good-looking as I am.

    Any hints? Tips?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Yes if there is any sign of a skanger in them, go with a guilty verdict and save the decent people from having to look and deal with these scum on a daily basis.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Dont forget to claim off your house insurance when youre finished.

    Mention it to your home insurance company to see if you're entitled to make a claim.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    When I was called up to do it the judge went on holidays and the jury was no longer needed for the case.
    Quite the waste of time that was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,955 ✭✭✭rizzla


    Yeah I did it. Thought it was great, very tiring though. Living with the decision you will make at the very end always weighs heavy and makes you pay attention to everything being said and presented to you.

    We had a Jessica Fletcher type girl in our jury, constantly coming up with bizare scenarios.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    I have a jury summons for June sometime..my ex girlfriend is on trial soon for murder so it'd be a beautiful coincidence if i was on the jury!

    Revenge is a dish best served cold my friendssss!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Degsy wrote: »
    I have a jury summons for June sometime..my ex girlfriend is on trial soon for murder so it'd be a beautiful coincidence if i was on the jury!

    Revenge is a dish best served cold my friendssss!

    Seriously?

    That sounds like a movie script waiting to happen. Although they'd probably have you off the jury in a minute if she recognises you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Confab wrote: »
    Who's done it? Is it fun? Interesting? Exciting? Unlikely I know, but I've watched far too many movies about it. All I know is that you're not guaranteed to be called up, especially not if you're as good-looking as I am.

    Any hints? Tips?

    Say you believe everyone is guilty until proven innocent and you'll be home in no time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Its a civic duty and a priviledge. You want to know that when its you on trial that your panel is made of responsible jurors who will weigh the case fairly. Be fair and objective to all sides of the case.

    In fairness though you're being screened for Jury Duty, you may not even make it to a trial. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_selection

    Its not a paid service (you'll get lunch, but no travel etc) but its best to think of it as one of your responsibilities which is tied into your own right to justice. I think its rather hypocritical of anyone to complain about jury duty and at the same time demand unfettered access to the system. If you are on trial it means 12 (or more) Jurors have agreed to hear your case at the expense of their time and give you their impartiality. To not return the favor when called reeks of hypocrisy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Confab wrote: »
    Who's done it? Is it fun? Interesting? Exciting? Unlikely I know, but I've watched far too many movies about it. All I know is that you're not guaranteed to be called up, especially not if you're as good-looking as I am.

    Any hints? Tips?

    bring food!

    ipod!

    books!

    newspapers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭Scarydoll


    Hank_Jones wrote: »
    When I was called up to do it the judge went on holidays and the jury was no longer needed for the case.
    Quite the waste of time that was.


    That happened to me too. I found it quite funny at the time.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Overheal wrote: »
    Its a civic duty and a priviledge. You want to know that when its you on trial that your panel is made of responsible jurors who will weigh the case fairly. Be fair and objective to all sides of the case.

    In fairness though you're being screened for Jury Duty, you may not even make it to a trial. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_selection

    Its not a paid service (you'll get lunch, but no travel etc) but its best to think of it as one of your responsibilities which is tied into your own right to justice. I think its rather hypocritical of anyone to complain about jury duty and at the same time demand unfettered access to the system. If you are on trial it means 12 (or more) Jurors have agreed to hear your case at the expense of their time and give you their impartiality. To not return the favor when called reeks of hypocrisy.

    Uh, I'm not complaining about doing it, just want to know what others have experienced doing it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,973 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    Degsy wrote: »
    I have a jury summons for June sometime..my ex girlfriend is on trial soon for murder so it'd be a beautiful coincidence if i was on the jury!

    Revenge is a dish best served cold my friendssss!

    First you are hanging off a cliff and now you have a murderous ex - girlfriend?!

    WTF man?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


    Don't mention any details of anything about it on the internet or you could end up in trouble, and the case will be all messed up.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Depending on what case it is - probably duty for an accident, cause of death decision or one more rarer case of non-accidental death - do expect to be bored most of the time, expect that most like yourself will have no clue just what to expect, expect that those with forthright opinions will soon make themselves known and some of those to be quick too pass judgement before full evidence is in. Expect to hear a lot of legal mumbo-jumbo, expect to be like in a room that is quite like a library in a number of ways.

    Expect to have your eyes opened in some ways that you never thought of.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    mars bar wrote: »
    you have a murderous ex - girlfriend?!

    WTF man?!

    You mean you havnt?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭jahalpin


    I finished on a jury just over 2 weeks ago and the experience was actually very good.

    The new Criminal Courts of Justice are actually very nice and, obviously, very modern.

    The actual jury selection process is a bit frustrating as you are all sitting in a large room with a video link to the court and the clerk calls out the details of the case and then selects around 30 names from a box. If you are called you go over to the court and either;
    - Make excuses to the judge as to why you can't serve on the jury
    - Get objected to by the barristers
    - Take the jury oath

    Once the jury is selected you are sent to the jury room, which is room with a board table and 12 chairs, a tea\coffee area and 2 toilets.

    You are provided with lunch everyday, you get a choice of 3 or 4 main courses and soup (except on Monday, when you only get a salad and soup)

    We were normally called into the court at around 11.30 and stayed there until around 1. We went back after lunch at around 2.15 and stayed in the court until around 4.

    The jury will sometimes be sent out so that the judge and barristers can discuss legal issues etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,973 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    Degsy wrote: »
    You mean you havnt?

    Well, no!
    I'm not a lesbian.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 49 John Lynch Ph.D


    Biggins wrote: »
    Depending on what case it is - probably duty for an accident, cause of death decision or one more rarer case of non-accidental death - do expect to be bored most of the time, expect that


    It could be any type of case, not just relating to death.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    was avail for selection for jury duty... just spent the whole week in the basement of the 4 courts... I'm due to be doing it again next month...

    thanks man... you me reminded me to tell'em i'm going to be out of the country at the time... er... really need to do that tomorrow...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭pirelli


    Lets not forget that many innocent people get wrongly convicted. Sometimes your the only person between justice and injustice.


    Read some these cases.


    http://www.innocent.org.uk/

    http://www.google.ie/search?q=innocent&hl=en&prmd=vni&source=univ&tbs=nws:1&tbo=u&ei=y2DoS_qMKt6kOPDx7YIE&sa=X&oi=news_group&ct=title&resnum=13&ved=0CGQQsQQwDA


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    It could be any type of case, not just relating to death.
    Very true. Expect it to probably be a mundane routine case to be honest OP.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Biggins wrote: »
    Very true. Expect it to probably be a mundane routine case to be honest OP.

    Yeha.. oddly enough... some of the cases I saw related to "Burglary" or "Assault & Burglary..."

    There I was thinking it was gonna be like "12 Angry Men"...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    Yes if there is any sign of a skanger in them, go with a guilty verdict and save the decent people from having to look and deal with these scum on a daily basis.

    At least now he can claim he's become biased with this post... and can't do it :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    Overheal wrote: »
    Its a civic duty and a priviledge. You want to know that when its you on trial that your panel is made of responsible jurors who will weigh the case fairly. Be fair and objective to all sides of the case.

    In fairness though you're being screened for Jury Duty, you may not even make it to a trial. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_selection

    Its not a paid service (you'll get lunch, but no travel etc) but its best to think of it as one of your responsibilities which is tied into your own right to justice. I think its rather hypocritical of anyone to complain about jury duty and at the same time demand unfettered access to the system. If you are on trial it means 12 (or more) Jurors have agreed to hear your case at the expense of their time and give you their impartiality. To not return the favor when called reeks of hypocrisy.

    Congratulations, you just convinced me to never try and get out of jury duty


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Overheal wrote: »
    If you are on trial it means 12 (or more) Jurors have agreed to hear your case at the expense of their time and give you their impartiality. To not return the favor when called reeks of hypocrisy.

    I don't think everyone intends to be on trial at some point in their life ;):p


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    At least now he can claim he's become biased with this post... and can't do it :pac:

    You'd want to be carefull doing that... the Judge can fine you for acting the b0ll0x.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Confab wrote: »
    Who's done it??
    Twas the butler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭peanuthead


    Degsy wrote: »
    I have a jury summons for June sometime..my ex girlfriend is on trial soon for murder so it'd be a beautiful coincidence if i was on the jury!

    Revenge is a dish best served cold my friendssss!
    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Seriously?

    That sounds like a movie script waiting to happen. Although they'd probably have you off the jury in a minute if she recognises you.

    Yeah, seriously? :eek::eek:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    peanuthead wrote: »
    Yeah, seriously? :eek::eek:


    I can provide a link if required but i really dont wanna!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Degsy wrote: »
    I can provide a link if required but i really dont wanna!

    I wouldn't if I were you mate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭peanuthead


    Confab wrote: »
    I wouldn't if I were you mate.

    Neither would I but g'wan..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    Anyone know what the penalty is for missing some days from jury duty for acting the b0ll0x, too hungover for example? :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    I did it late last year and it was certainly an experience. About 70% of the time was spent in the jury room, even at that the time spent in the court room was quite a bit as it was a longer trial I was on. Due to the nature of the trial it was pretty difficult to deal with. It took me at least a week afterwards to get my head round what just happened. It's certainly not something I'd like to have to do again.

    Sorry for bringing the mood down a bit but you need to be aware that this isn't fun & games or an easy break from work. The decisions made can and will impact peoples lives... in some cases it will be small, in others much larger.


    Anyone know what the penalty is for missing some days from jury duty for acting the b0ll0x, too hungover for example? :eek:

    €500 or €2000 fine I believe. Depends on how much you're taking the piss.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    Anyone know what the penalty is for missing some days from jury duty for acting the b0ll0x, too hungover for example? :eek:


    Crucifixion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    Dord wrote: »
    €500 or €2000 fine I believe. Depends on how much you're taking the piss.

    Cool thanks...

    BTW, I must protest your sig! There was no free cake at all!!! :mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭Pauleta


    rizzla wrote: »
    Yeah I did it. Thought it was great, very tiring though. Living with the decision you will make at the very end always weighs heavy and makes you pay attention to everything being said and presented to you.

    We had a Jessica Fletcher type girl in our jury, constantly coming up with bizare scenarios.

    Pretty similar myself except it was a man coming up with loads of theories. Some people really dont get the whole thing that you have to work with facts and not speculation. Would love to do it again though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 971 ✭✭✭CoalBucket


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB1eXlvfo-s

    Make sure you get a pair of those glasses :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    just remember he's guilty if

    1) he looks a bit shifty
    2) his eyes are too close together
    3) he has a funny sounding name


    either that or he's your local councillor


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    If you want to get out of it tell them your prejudiced against all races.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭Sugar Free


    I had it recently. It's fairly interesting and you meet a few characters in the main jury panel room!

    Mine was in the new building on Parkgate Street. It was mostly rape/buggery cases while I was there.

    I'd love to know what lines the solicitors make their challenges on other than gender, being dressed like a knacker etc. anyone?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Tell them you are prejudiced against all races.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭Cheap Thrills!


    Tell them you know the defendant, seriously. You will get out of it. If its organised crime espcially 'cos those fcukers come after ya. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,955 ✭✭✭rizzla


    If you do get selected and have nothing else to do, you should do it.

    After my jury service the entire jury I was on recieved jury service exemption letters. Handy if ever I should get called again and have stuff to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭Sugar Free


    rizzla wrote: »
    If you do get selected and have nothing else to do, you should do it.

    After my jury service the entire jury I was on recieved jury service exemption letters. Handy if ever I should get called again and have stuff to do.

    Yeah I'm exempt now for three years even though my case was dismissed before we had to come to a verdict!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    MediumWell wrote: »
    Yeah I'm exempt now for three years even though my case was dismissed before we had to come to a verdict!

    The exepmtion by default is 3 years unless otherwise specified by a Judge at time of selection...

    Don't have a proble with it, last time I was up for selection was 3 and a half years ago. I'm only 25 and been called out twice. My folks have never been called out...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭Krieg


    Anyone know where the jury selection comes from?
    I hear they take names from the voting register but I don't know if its true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,285 ✭✭✭bonzodog2


    mars bar wrote: »
    First you are hanging off a cliff and now you have a murderous ex - girlfriend?!

    WTF man?!

    Some people have complicated lives thrust upon them !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Krieg wrote: »
    Anyone know where the jury selection comes from?
    I hear they take names from the voting register but I don't know if its true.

    Yep - juries are selected from a jury panel which is picked at random by the county registrar from the electoral register.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,973 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    bonzodog2 wrote: »
    Some people have complicated lives thrust upon them !

    Seemingly so...

    Out of curiosity, why did you write the word "complicated" in italics?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    jahalpin wrote: »
    except on Monday, when you only get a salad and soup).

    Bring a packed lunch
    I don't think everyone intends to be on trial at some point in their life ;):p

    I dont think anyone intends to until they get arrested


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