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lag or ping or what???

  • 06-05-2010 4:10pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭


    im getting absolutely slaughtered lately,especially 1 on 1 confrontations.say i meet someone and start firing away and then they start firing back im usually the one that ends up dead,when i watch the killcam ive often not even let off a shot even though i started shooting first.would this be ping related or what??is there anything i can do about it??im on eircom 7mb and ping is usually between 80 and 100,its only recently started to happen


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Shammy


    Its lag unfortunatley very annoying , your ping is very high hence you are 80/100 milliseconds behind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    that was quickicon10.gif is there anything i can do about it,ping has always been like that but never seemed to lag as much as it is now:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭treatyman


    Oh tell me all about it.. I have actually stopped playing the game online because of this.. Played one FFA last night to check if it was still as bad as ever and ended up 6-17.. I am not that bad.. I am usually in the right side of the k/d ratio...
    I posted your very query on boards a while back and basically got the impression it's just tough luck... I never win a 50-50 battle now.. Actually was in a corner of a room camping like a little bitch as it was the only way I could get a kill and a sniper walked into the room.. i shot him he turned around and shot me.. In the Killcam I didn't even fire.. Thats what I am up against so I give up.. Tried everything possible and don't have a solution.

    And it's only been like this since the update came out with the new maps.

    Playing special ops with a mate these evenings to get my fix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Shammy


    you can get on to eircom and complain , i wouldnt get your hopes up though , if its the same in the day as it is at night there might be something they can do , but if its only bad at night (6pm-12 mid) then it will go down as a contention issue.
    I had a similar problem , ended up leaving dsl altogether.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭yuloni


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    its the same day and night only been happening a week or so,may give eircom a ring,because like treatyman im finding myself the wrong side of the kill/death ratio lately when i thought them days were long gone


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    cambo2008 wrote: »
    its the same day and night only been happening a week or so,may give eircom a ring,because like treatyman im finding myself the wrong side of the kill/death ratio lately when i thought them days were long gone

    just do what I do ...........about 1min into the game hit pause and check whats the story with your enemies connection . If theres more than two of them on a 4 bar connection .........leave the game ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭davenachill


    hey if your with eircom you need to fix your nat type first,go to this thread here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055871300


    after you have done that,turn your firewall to low (or off) from here:
    http://192.168.1.254/

    Again this is only if you have Eircom,it worked for me:D
    Good luck:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭yuloni


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    Condi wrote: »
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    I don't think so , if that was the case the games would be very one sided like 6 four bars against 6 three bars .......they would absolutely destroy the other team . I think its just a case of they pick the best connection to be host then depending on your proximity to the host .........that will decide how many bars you have .

    I'm more than likely wrong though :confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    hey if your with eircom you need to fix your nat type first,go to this thread here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055871300


    after you have done that,turn your firewall to low (or off) from here:
    http://192.168.1.254/

    Again this is only if you have Eircom,it worked for me:D
    Good luck:)
    already had these done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭sierra117x


    treatyman wrote: »
    Oh tell me all about it.. I have actually stopped playing the game online because of this.. Played one FFA last night to check if it was still as bad as ever and ended up 6-17.. I am not that bad.. I am usually in the right side of the k/d ratio...
    I posted your very query on boards a while back and basically got the impression it's just tough luck... I never win a 50-50 battle now.. Actually was in a corner of a room camping like a little bitch as it was the only way I could get a kill and a sniper walked into the room.. i shot him he turned around and shot me.. In the Killcam I didn't even fire.. Thats what I am up against so I give up.. Tried everything possible and don't have a solution.

    And it's only been like this since the update came out with the new maps.

    Playing special ops with a mate these evenings to get my fix.

    try it later at night . i think the quality of players improves then 2 loads of teamwork lack of tubes/runners kinda stuff . really pi**'s of my ma though :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭sierra117x


    I don't think so , if that was the case the games would be very one sided like 6 four bars against 6 three bars .......they would absolutely destroy the other team . I think its just a case of they pick the best connection to be host then depending on your proximity to the host .........that will decide how many bars you have .

    I'm more than likely wrong though :confused:
    hey if your with eircom you need to fix your nat type first,go to this thread here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055871300


    after you have done that,turn your firewall to low (or off) from here:
    http://192.168.1.254/

    Again this is only if you have Eircom,it worked for me:D
    Good luck:)

    @creasy bear thats pretty much the jist i got from it too so unless we're both wrong :P

    @davenchill is it really a good way to be knocking a firewall on low or off altogether ? i have mine right up at full and ive never had any problems connection wise


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 49 CoZaa


    Shammy wrote: »
    you can get on to eircom and complain , i wouldnt get your hopes up though , if its the same in the day as it is at night there might be something they can do , but if its only bad at night (6pm-12 mid) then it will go down as a contention issue.
    I had a similar problem , ended up leaving dsl altogether.


    What are you on now? Cable?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    What does the firewall actually do :confused:

    I change mine from medium to low there for an hour or two and it made no difference to my connection


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Shammy


    CoZaa wrote: »
    What are you on now? Cable?


    No cant get cable where i am , Munster broadband

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Shammy


    What does the firewall actually do :confused:

    I change mine from medium to low there for an hour or two and it made no difference to my connection


    It protects , i think dave thought the problem was with the nat settings .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    Shammy wrote: »
    It protects , i think dave thought the problem was with the nat settings .

    whats it actually protecting me from though :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Shammy


    whats it actually protecting me from though :confused:


    http://portforward.com/help/firewalls.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭minotour


    whats it actually protecting me from though :confused:

    Internet nasties for the most part.

    I heard a good explanation to the layman years ago, think of your network interface as a pidgeon hole mailing system, each "hole" is port, each port has a specific function (different types of mail for different people/different programmatic communications for software applications), the firewall is the postman who decides if access to each port or hole is available, thus preventing you from getting unwanted mail or connections through which nasty ****e comes in.

    (Do not confuse mail in the above with email)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    Condi wrote: »
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭Jev/N


    cambo2008 wrote: »
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    Your upload is a bit slow, that could be it

    Contention maybe also?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    just been on to eircom tech support,never again.the lad was absolutely clueless:mad:after telling him the problem he spent almost an hour trying to sort it out,he asked me to test ping it was 88,he tested it remotely or something and it was over 200 which he said was bad,then tried to update the firmware on my netopia with the latest zyxel firmware(told him twice beforehand what router i had)anyway to cut a long story short by the end of the conversation he thought i rang to complain about my download speed and seemed surprised when i said it was about ping as if i never mentioned it,told me my line was grand but suggested eircom ngb,im fit to kill at this stage unfortunately not on mw2 cos ill just get my arse kicked


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    Jev/N wrote: »
    Your upload is a bit slow, that could be it

    Contention maybe also?
    think thats about as good as the upload gets with eircom 7mb


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭yuloni


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Shammy


    Jev/N wrote: »
    Your upload is a bit slow, that could be it

    Contention maybe also?


    Thats basically standard with eircom , its the ping at 84 thats the problem it should on average about 30.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Shammy


    Condi wrote: »
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    As far as i can remember the upload for the 7 meg package it half a meg, i used to be on that package myself.
    I think the problem is with the lines themselves, eircom upgraded most/all exchanges about 2 years ago , take mine for example the max d/l was 4 meg for the line but when they upgraded i was able to get 7 meg , even though i was told that the lines could only carry 6, during the day it was fine but any other traffic in the evening brought unstable speeds and high pings. It could be that the lines just cant take the speed causing the high ping.
    Upgrading an exchange is one thing but the lines were never replaced and how long are they down there and what is there life span .... not very long i reckon afterall they're only copper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭yuloni


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,570 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    cambo2008 wrote: »
    im getting absolutely slaughtered lately,especially 1 on 1 confrontations.say i meet someone and start firing away and then they start firing back im usually the one that ends up dead,when i watch the killcam ive often not even let off a shot even though i started shooting first.would this be ping related or what??is there anything i can do about it??im on eircom 7mb and ping is usually between 80 and 100,its only recently started to happen

    Thank god for killcam. Hate it when I enter a room and blast a fellow half a dozen times just to see the replay and see myself wander aimlessly into a room and apparently just stare at him instead. At least I know for a fact when I'm wronged.

    I'm sure sometimes I see people who should have got the jump on me, who I have killed, who must have themselves been lagging.

    It seems to be good at some times and bad at others, and I find I just have to leave it when it's bad.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭JeanClaude


    Thank god for killcam. Hate it when I enter a room and blast a fellow half a dozen times just to see the replay and see myself wander aimlessly into a room and apparently just stare at him instead. At least I know for a fact when I'm wronged.

    I'm sure sometimes I see people who should have got the jump on me, who I have killed, who must have themselves been lagging.

    It seems to be good at some times and bad at others, and I find I just have to leave it when it's bad.

    Agreed, I'm on Eircom 3mb and don't even try playing between 5pm - 10pm waste of time and my sanity..:D..it's hard enough to watch a youtube video even on 360p, without it buffering constantly, between these times.........I'll do anything else rather than play MW2 online, when it gets that bad..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    Condi wrote: »
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    ha ha its not all about the ratio for me,just cant enjoy the game at all anymore,im resorting to the very tactics that i hate about the game,as i said its only a recent problem had no trouble with it before.not much better options around here,i had ice broadband,download wasnt great but upload and ping were very good


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    There are two 7 mbit packages, 7 and 7.6mbit.

    The 7.6mbit is the one people were upgraded from 3mbit to and has 672k upload and has 24:1 contention. It had high interleaving and high pings. They then introduced a new 7mbit package for gamers, its got 384k upload and 48:1 contention (same as 3mbit) but slightly better ping times. The 7mbit will get much slower in the evenings as the contention ratio is 48:1. Now consider that the max You're ever going to get on dsl is about 80% of the speed they offer (overheads of the protocol used to deliver it), 80% of 384k at 48:1 contention could easily be 100k (dial up is 56k) in the evenings when its busy.

    Not sure if they're still offering the 7.6mbit package, but some people are still on it, I am as I prefer the extra upload and 24:1 contention. 7mbit is the one people usually get sold and is the one in all bundled phone packages, see the way the craftily changed their top package from 48:1 to 24:1 contention, it was always 24:1 before this


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 Eth78


    Mine is brutal tonight - really wanted to unwind with a bit of genocide tonight after a long week at work.

    Guinness instead then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭manufan16


    I had a ping of 70 on old ISprovider and used to have some decent games. Now switched to 3G o2 sim for xbox gaming and ping is about 130+ and now I win very few 1v1 and nowhere near as many kills per game. Its very annoying but the game is so damn addictive I find myself still playing when I can


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    manufan16 wrote: »
    now I win very few 1v1 and nowhere near as many kills per game. Its very annoying but the game is so damn addictive I find myself still playing when I can
    same as meself still cant stop playing it,i started using sleight of hand pro for the quicker aiming and stopping power with fmj for as much damage as possible,slight improvement but top 3 finishes are a rarity these days,got 30/7 kd last night on salvage was delighted with meself,seem to do better on the new maps,until everyone has them sussed out anyway


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