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Semi-auto rifles and stock import

  • 27-04-2010 3:38pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46


    hi all just a few questions for ye,

    1. What is the view on importing a stock for a mossburg pump shotgun from US?
    ie. any legal issues? custom's problems?

    2. What is the view on semi auto rifles? Are they on the restricted list?

    Thanks for any replies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭José Alaninho


    Boyle243 wrote: »
    hi all just a few questions for ye,

    1. What is the view on importing a stock for a mossburg pump shotgun from US?
    ie. any legal issues? custom's problems?

    2. What is the view on semi auto rifles? Are they on the restricted list?

    Thanks for any replies.

    Semi-autos above .22LR calibre are restricted as far as I know, as well as .22 semis with a mag capacity above 10 (?) rounds. Which is ridiculous given the nature of detachable magazines.... :rolleyes:

    As for the stock, I've had no joy trying to get one for my shotgun (rem 870); people I've tried mostly won't ship out of the US for some reason or other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭Hibrion


    In terms of the stock, it all depends on the type you are getting. Our boys in blue seem to look very unfavorably on folding stocks, pistol grips and anything "assault" like. In reality, there should be no problem getting a stock if you can find someone willing to post it. I just got a nice laminate stock for my Ruger 10 22 from the US after a long search. This was however a private transaction and didn't go through a big company, many of whom are strict and unchanging in their policies on international shipping.
    Browse ebay.com (not .ie) and ask sellers directly will they ship to Ireland. Many will despite not being listed as such.

    Best of luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Boyle243 wrote: »
    hi all just a few questions for ye,

    1. What is the view on importing a stock for a mossburg pump shotgun from US?
    ie. any legal issues? custom's problems?

    2. What is the view on semi auto rifles? Are they on the restricted list?

    Thanks for any replies.

    Folding SHOTGUN stocks are restricted.
    Rifles Over .224 yes are restricted but can be got if applied for and shown reason for having, For example collectible military Garand. And being a member of a club of such nature


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,697 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    .........Rifles Over .224 yes are restricted but can be got if applied for and shown reason for having........nature

    Either i'm reading this wrong or the statement is wrong.

    Rifles of .308 caliber and UNDER are unrestricted. If its a semi auto center fire then it is restricted.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    ezridax wrote: »
    Either i'm reading this wrong or the statement is wrong.

    Rifles of .308 caliber and UNDER are unrestricted. If its a semi auto center fire then it is restricted.

    I thought that is what I said, i see now my head often works in mysterious ways.

    R-15 Remington, 10/22 Unrestricted

    R-25 .243 Remington restricted AFAIK.
    Restricted does not mean can not be got. Just means very difficult to get, Like a good pint of Guinness! Many have tried but few have received ;)

    Duffy in Galway is purporting to sell Garands chambered in .30/06


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    I thought that is what I said, i see now my head often works in mysterious ways.

    R-15 Remington, 10/22 Unrestricted

    R-25 .243 Remington restricted AFAIK.
    Restricted does not mean can not be got. Just means very difficult to get, Like a good pint of Guinness! Many have tried but few have received ;)

    Duffy in Galway is purporting to sell Garands chambered in .30/06

    R-15 is restricted. It's a centrefire. It's not the bore diameter that determines it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭gunhappy_ie


    Any semi auto centerfire rifle is restricted regardless of calibre, there are no restrictions laid down in law regarding magazine capicity however conditions can be attached by your chief super if he/she so wish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 Boyle243


    thanks for all the replies
    there seems to be abit of confusion about semi autos its a pity it wasn't more clear cut.
    About the stock l was looking at getting one with the pistol grip and the shoulder stock all in one. Might be a bit too scary looking for the gaurds though:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    R-15 is restricted. It's a centrefire. It's not the bore diameter that determines it.

    fellas on here have them Tacticool's I think they call them locally :D


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,697 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Boyle243 wrote: »
    there seems to be abit of confusion about semi autos its a pity it wasn't more clear cut.

    No confusion. ANY centerfire semi auto rifle is restricted.

    Have a read of SI21/2008, 4 (2)(b)(i), (ii), (iii) and 4 (2)(c) (i), (ii), (iii). It outlines that any item not mentioned in subparagraph 2 (inlcuding all the above) is deemed restricted, which includes semi auto center fire rifles, folding stock shotguns, etc.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭gunhappy_ie


    Boyle243 wrote: »
    thanks for all the replies
    there seems to be abit of confusion about semi autos its a pity it wasn't more clear cut.
    About the stock l was looking at getting one with the pistol grip and the shoulder stock all in one. Might be a bit too scary looking for the gaurds though:D
    #

    its pretty simple actually and all explained in http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Restricted%20Firearms%20and%20Ammunition%20S.I..pdf/Files/Restricted%20Firearms%20and%20Ammunition%20S.I..pdf

    regarding semi autos inparticular:


    4. (1) Firearms OTHER than those to which subparagraph (2) relates are

    declared to be restricted firearms for the purposes of the Act:


    (
    c) the following long firearms (not being assault rifles or bullpup rifles):


    (i) single-shot or repeating rifled centre-fire firearms of a calibre not exceeding 7.62 millimetres (.308 inch) and whose overall length is greater than 90 centimetres,
    "This referes to any rifle over .308 being restricted or a rifle under that calibre but under 90 cm being restricted."
    (ii) single-shot, repeating or semi-automatic rim-fire firearms
    designed to fire rim-fire percussion ammunition and with a magazine
    having a capacity of not more than 10 rounds,

    "This referes to any semiauto rimfire (generally only available in .22) being unrestricted unless the magazine capacity is over 10 rounds then it is restricted."


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