AGS and the Ethics of a 2nd job

deadwood

Years ago, recruit guards were given basic City & Guilds courses in tiling, electrics, mechanics etc.. to help integrate them with the community. They'd do a few jobs in the area and it gave them something to talk to the locals about.

Members from farming backgrounds were exempt, as they could already yap on about cows giving headage or something.

deadwood

That's that put to rest.

Delancey

deadwood wrote: »

Years ago, recruit guards were given basic City & Guilds courses in tiling, electrics, mechanics etc.. to help integrate them with the community. They'd do a few jobs in the area and it gave them something to talk to the locals about.

Members from farming backgrounds were exempt, as they could already yap on about cows giving headage or something.

All joking aside - is it really true that lads were trained in the above ?

deadwood

delancey42 wrote: »

All joking aside - is it really true that lads were trained in the above ?

Yes. The courses were run by Anco. (now Fás)

When women were allowed join in the mid-eighties, they were taught sewing, typing and "domestic skills".

I was one of the first to do a training course in the new-fangled computer applications in Basic. I was trained to make my name, or indeed most names for that matter, scroll down the screen diagonally, indefinitely. The introduction of MS Word made my position in the Chiefs Awfice untenable, so I was placed back on the regular unit. It wasn't until 1997, when a second computer was introduced to the division, that I was able to hone my skills to this standard. Ah, the Nixdorf 9000 - 3 moving parts and a flashing green led. It could hold dozens of pages of info. No help desk needed for that baby.

Delancey

Speaking of the ethics of a second job - they certainly were training people up for second jobs in that case

kravmaga

angelfire9 wrote: »

BUT
AGS are severely restricted with regards to a 2nd job which other private & public sector workers are not
Which is the point of this thread after all

I have to disagree with you.

People who work in the private sector are curtailed also.

AGS are public sector workers.

I wish I could undertake a 2nd job but due to organisation's Business Ethic's policy I cannot.


My opinion is a weighting allowance should be created similiar to London for Dublin based members of Emergency services personnel.

See my original post.

As cost of living is higher in the Dublin Metropolitian Area than any other region in ROI.

Eg, AGS, DFB, HSE Ambulance

Scan Man

I'm not a Garda, but I would have major problems with Gardai taking second jobs in Door Security or other industries which have a conflict of interest, as it could possibly prejudice future complaints and treatment.

The last thing this country needs is any more of the "nod and wink" type of governance (from the top to the very bottom of public service) that has been going on for the last 88 years since the founding of the state.

I agree that those who having trouble with mortgages need assistance and the options of second job should be open to them in some industries which wouldn't necessarily conflict with their ability to discharge their duties in an impartial manner.

However, some of the dramatics and suggestions coming out of the GRA were quite childish. Gardai are not the only ones having trouble with paying their mortgages, many of those I know are much better off than others their age and have no problem securing new loans for cars, etc.

unattendedbag

50% commission on all Penal warrants executed. That'd solve more than one problem.

unattendedbag

unattendedbag wrote: »

50% commission on all Penal warrants executed. That'd solve more than one problem.

And how do you suppose that will solve any problem? The person is back on the streets to commit crime hours after being lodged.

unattendedbag

And how do you suppose that will solve any problem? The person is back on the streets to commit crime hours after being lodged.

They are already out on the streets to do as they please. More penal warrants being issued on a daily basis than can be executed in the DMR. Dragging someone down to the joy for a couple of hours is good enough punishment for not paying a €100 fine.

unattendedbag

unattendedbag wrote: »

They are already out on the streets to do as they please. More penal warrants being issued on a daily basis than can be executed in the DMR. Dragging someone down to the joy for a couple of hours is good enough punishment for not paying a €100 fine.

And how much garda time is going to be wasted doing that? Trying to find out where a person now lives. Picking them up. Driving them to prison. And then back, just to do it all again. And then add in all the time waiting at the prison for them to accept the prisoner!

deadwood

unattendedbag wrote: »

More penal warrants being issued on a daily basis than can be executed in the DMR..

Thank God those simple country judges outside capital city give those varmints a fair trial before they hangs 'em! None of yer fancy city warrants, what with the lack of fancy book learnin' and such.

I thinks i'll put my feet up with a nice jar of buttermilk and read over my Irelands Own before I go out on the beat to count sheep. This computerin' sure does make me a might thirsty!!