Radio Station Imaging

Fago!

What station do you think has the best on-air imaging (jingles, liners, promos, voiceovers...etc...)?

Mine would be BBC Radio 1. Chris Moyles' jingles are unbelieveable, his American voice over guy is brilliant. Radio 1 have a great sound all through the day. It's young, fresh and stylish and brilliantly produced

On our side of the pond, Spin 103.8 would be the best IMO. The VOs, the promos, jingles..... As with Radio 1, it's fresh, catchy and well produced.

My least favorite would be RTE 2FM or Dublin's 98FM.... 2FM because it should be miles better. 98 purely because I hate the voice guy! Yucky.

Aye? What about you?

deadhead13

I haven't listened to it in a good while now, but Talksports imaging was quite good. Most of it done by ex-The Bill actor, Steven Hartley.

The Most annoying has to be Newstalk's - "Different nation, Different station", "Listen...think...now...feel" and the latest one which I can't think of at the moment, but I know it irritates me.

eth0_

Radio 1 and Spin's imaging makes me cringe. Makes me think of the radio station where Garth and Wayne go for an interview to promote their festival, or the "Dingo and the baby" episode of Family Guy! Or worse still...Atlantic 252's naff as hell imaging.

I usually navigate away from a radio station that uses a faux-yanky voiceover guy or too many fx in their sweepers etc. It does my head in.

I think 6music's is good (they're up for a Sony award for best station imaging this year), and 2FM's is inoffensive.

thejuggler

Try 96FM in Cork. They use Sandy Thomas and he leaves the rest in the shade.

Fago!

eth0_ wrote: »

Radio 1 and Spin's imaging makes me cringe. Makes me think of the radio station where Garth and Wayne go for an interview to promote their festival, or the "Dingo and the baby" episode of Family Guy! Or worse still...Atlantic 252's naff as hell imaging.

I usually navigate away from a radio station that uses a faux-yanky voiceover guy or too many fx in their sweepers etc. It does my head in.

I think 6music's is good (they're up for a Sony award for best station imaging this year), and 2FM's is inoffensive.

6Music is good...

I love the Yank voiceovers (Except when it's a guy doing a crap american accent)...

sorrywhat

I dont even want to mention his name cos Im afraid it will end up in a I love/hate him, but I love Ray Foleys jingles. I like the today FM jingles for the station too.

L1011

Surely the whole american voiceovers thing has had its day - ten years ago, in fact. Sounds utterly jaded and worn out to me, on any station. We're not in the US and its not somewhere we should aim to ape culturally either.

Fago!

MYOB wrote: »

Surely the whole american voiceovers thing has had its day - ten years ago, in fact. Sounds utterly jaded and worn out to me, on any station. We're not in the US and its not somewhere we should aim to ape culturally either.

Yeah we should have Arab voiceovers!

sorrywhat wrote: »

I dont even want to mention his name cos Im afraid it will end up in a I love/hate him, but I love Ray Foleys jingles. I like the today FM jingles for the station too.

I love his jingles too, but I think he should update them...

It's the same company that make hris Moyles' jingles. www.music4.com He updates his all the time...

Bard

Fago! wrote: »

I love his jingles too, but I think he should update them...

It's the same company that make hris Moyles' jingles. www.music4.com He updates his all the time...

Agreed re: Foley's jingles - I think they're excellent and perfect for that show and timeslot.

Certainly, it'd be great if he updated them more often, like Moyles does - but there's a huge difference in the budget of Today FM for things like that and that of BBC Radio 1 - especially these days!

eth0_

Fago! wrote: »

Yeah we should have Arab voiceovers!

No, this is Ireland, we should have IRISH voiceovers rather than some chump doing a cod-American accent.

Fago!

Bard wrote: »

Agreed re: Foley's jingles - I think they're excellent and perfect for that show and timeslot.

Certainly, it'd be great if he updated them more often, like Moyles does - but there's a huge difference in the budget of Today FM for things like that and that of BBC Radio 1 - especially these days!

Good point.

*SAVE UP YER POCKET MONEY FOLEY!!!!*

Moyles' jingles actually make me tingle inside. The whole choir thing is brilliant.

The cheesy song is excellent!

http://www.music4.com/musicservices/catalogue/119/bbc-radio-1/jingles.html

The first three tracks ^^^^^

eth0_

Yes but you have to judge it against the frankly disgustingly large budget he has for that show. When you have millions of the public's money to spend on your jingles, of course they'll be amazing.

Fago!

eth0_ wrote: »

No, this is Ireland, we should have IRISH voiceovers rather than some chump doing a cod-American accent.

Irish VOs suck TBH! They suck. Really they do.

Fago!

eth0_ wrote: »

Yes but you have to judge it against the frankly disgustingly large budget he has for that show. When you have millions of the public's money to spend on your jingles, of course they'll be amazing.

RE Foley and Moyles' jingles, that's a fair point. I reckon Today Fm can splurge out on a new set for Foley. I like the jingles, but the music needs to be freshened up. Hearing the same piece of jingle music every day is annoying even if there is different lyrics.

Bard

Fago! wrote: »

Irish VOs suck TBH! They suck. Really they do.

Er... really? What examples are you basing this sweeping generalisation on?

barneygumble

Can't abide the female voice over they use on Newstalk for the Premiership, the adverts on the Breakfast show, Talking History and the rest. She also appears on Country Mix.

Not sure what effect she is trying for but it makes my skin crawl.

Fago!

Bard wrote: »

Er... really? What examples are you basing this sweeping generalisation on?

Every irish VO I've ever heard. The main one I remember is Phantom's and Today Fm's voiceovers. More so the female one on Today Fm. She annoys me.

Also the Stupid irish voices on ads.

eth0_

Fago! wrote: »

RE Foley and Moyles' jingles, that's a fair point. I reckon Today Fm can splurge out on a new set for Foley. I like the jingles, but the music needs to be freshened up. Hearing the same piece of jingle music every day is annoying even if there is different lyrics.

True. Any producer worth their salt can knock up sweepers and jingles at a very low cost to the station. I was able to make some decent ones after teaching myself Adobe Audition for about a week! And they're fun to make so I think there's no excuse for hearing the same jingles over and over again.

re: Irish accents in station imaging - I honestly would prefer to hear Irish accents rather than American or *shudder* an Irish person putting on an American accent. It makes me cringe. But I know what you mean about some Irish voiceovers affecting a posh or bogger accent. It can be just as bad.

Fago!

eth0_ wrote: »

True. Any producer worth their salt can knock up sweepers and jingles at a very low cost to the station. I was able to make some decent ones after teaching myself Adobe Audition for about a week! And they're fun to make so I think there's no excuse for hearing the same jingles over and over again..

Yeah I'm pretty good at making jingles and imaging and stuff. It's quite enjoyable...

eth0_ wrote: »

re: Irish accents in station imaging - I honestly would prefer to hear Irish accents rather than American or *shudder* an Irish person putting on an American accent. It makes me cringe. But I know what you mean about some Irish voiceovers affecting a posh or bogger accent. It can be just as bad.

Yeah a good Irish VO I can stick. but not the terrible ones who try to put on an accent or *IMO* are trying to sound different then to how they actually sound. If it's done well, grand. If not, fack off ya hacks.

Plus I'm just biast towards the American VO.

Firetrap

I'm biased against bad voiceovers

GiftGrub100

+1 BBC Radio Chris Moyles Show, they really are good and the new ones for this year have a very classy sound

http://www.music4.com/musicservices/catalogue/632/bbc-radio-1/chris-moyles-jingles-january-2010.html

Check out the Ferne Cotton

and when he was stuck in NYC because of the Ash cloud

http://www.music4.com/musicservices/catalogue/641/bbc-radio-1/bbc-radio-1-chris-moyles-stuck-in-new-york-jingles-april-2010.html

Fago!

GiftGrub100 wrote: »

+1 BBC Radio Chris Moyles Show, they really are good and the new ones for this year have a very classy sound

http://www.music4.com/musicservices/catalogue/632/bbc-radio-1/chris-moyles-jingles-january-2010.html

Check out the Ferne Cotton

and when he was stuck in NYC because of the Ash cloud

http://www.music4.com/musicservices/catalogue/641/bbc-radio-1/bbc-radio-1-chris-moyles-stuck-in-new-york-jingles-april-2010.html

I'm not a fan of this years jingles. I liked the old jazzy ones. I don't like the remix of the cheesy song. The old one had more UMPH!!!

vince

beat 102 103 sounds good

klypso

vince wrote: »

beat 102 103 sounds good

Here they are with a few other audio clips too: http://www.jinglenews.com/2009/02/24/beat-102-103-2009/

vince

i wish i could pick up beat all over west cork its better than the rest and old skool sunday what a show

i am niamh

Similar to Beat Galway bay fm and LMFMs nighttime Programme use similar if not the same. not sure whose producing it but sounds great. Really hits vocals while delivering the message. Very radio 1

gavindowd

i am niamh wrote: »

Similar to Beat Galway bay fm and LMFMs nighttime Programme use similar if not the same. not sure whose producing it but sounds great. Really hits vocals while delivering the message. Very radio 1

Sorry to dig up old threads but the guy that your talking about is Enda Caldwell...

soc160

gavindowd wrote: »

Sorry to dig up old threads but the guy that your talking about is Enda Caldwell...

Its been the best part of 3 years now since this was last discussed, lot of change since then, think we should probably discuss this again now? any changes, anything really good out there or really bad?

siezetheday

Interesting thread. I'd be interested to hear from posters with experience in jingle production if you'd like to produce some Irish voiced jingles for our online radio station (RadioActive.ie). We've a small budget and really like to promote Irish talent. So if you're interested, leave me a private message.

Infoanon

It is 3 years and Spin are still on top imho - 98 still lag far behind....

gavindowd

Infoanon wrote: »

It is 3 years and Spin are still on top imho - 98 still lag far behind....

I think Dave Foxx and Becki Miller sound great on 98

gavindowd

FM104's is pretty good but not as good as it was until May 2011. They brought in a new Irish voice who sounded very boring, and have since replaced her with another Irish female back in July.

IMO - 104 sounded best in 2007, they have had Marc Silk (US Male v/o) for years and they had Julie Love (I think thats her name) - Scottish female who did work for Clyde 1 in Glasgow. In '07, they also ran the 2004 Music4 'Radio City' package - It sounded great on air (Adrian Kennedy used one of the jingles).

Take a listen here: http://www.jinglenews.com/audio/airchecks/fm104_140607.mp3

Infoanon

gavindowd wrote: »

I think Dave Foxx and Becki Miller sound great on 98

4FMs imaging is also good - perhaps the 98 tag line 'now is good' is the underlying issue at 98FM

Cookie Policy

104 really need to bring the pitch down on their songs to normal pitch again, sounds awful, cheap and teenage discoish.

Cookie Policy

Radio 1 still on top for me - closely followed by Capital FM and SPIN 1038.


https://soundcloud.com/jinglenews/bbc-radio-1-updates-from-pure

RoundyMooney

RedFM in Cork is still godawful. Mainly due to the droning inflection of the woman who does it, because it's otherwise generic enough. She's like Lloyd Grossman on Quaaludes.

On a show to show basis, not that I listen much, but Derek Mooney's are particularly bad-the louder and more raucous the background music, the better. Very dischordant. And he does that daft thing (which Red FM) also do, where they repeat a key phrase...a...key...phrase after every second sentence, complete with funny echo. Not forgetting the random whooshes between segments. Pointless.

Chris 80

I had to sign up to post something. I work in radio.I don't think any of you do. Apart from the people who post how good their stuff is , i.e. 'Fago', the imaging on Spin is great. You have no idea about identities and how to keep a continuous sound. Also, when so many sponsors are involved, you have to bend over for them also. However, even with all the money in the world, there are all a lot of folk who think that sung jingles suck.

RoundyMooney

Surely people don't have to work in radio to comment on it? There wouldn't be much point in working in radio in the first place if there wasn't an audience, no?

For me, it comes down to, "I don't know much about art, but I know what I like." As, I suspect, does every other listener.

Chris 80

Yes.But you should really learn a little more about how a radio station works before you cast a review. Are you there when the painting is being painted?

RoundyMooney

Nope.

But I'd argue that the end result is everything!

And subjective, in that opinions vary, that too.

Cookie Policy

Many people on the Radio forum work directly in the business, some even verified representatives.

I myself do also but to be honest if a station employs a head of station imaging/production there is no excuse for stale imaging or promos.

If someone comments on how great SPIN's imaging is well, they've done it right. They've created an IMAGE that people remember. Take SPIN South West for example they ran very successful imaging back when they started with the tagline/rhyming jingle "102, 103 and 94.7 SPIN..SPIN South West!" people remember the name when you say SPIN people instantly know what you're talking about, job done!

Any producer worth their money with a bit of creativity can work a sponsor into their imaging very easily. I do agree with RoundyMooney about Red FM's imaging though, way past it's sell by date. Their top of hour and out of break imaging has been the same for years.

smurfs5

Cookie Policy wrote: »

Radio 1 still on top for me - closely followed by Capital FM and SPIN 1038.


https://soundcloud.com/jinglenews/bbc-radio-1-updates-from-pure

Completely agree with this and in that order but I'd have SPIN 1038 ahead of Capital.

gavindowd

Cookie Policy wrote: »

104 really need to bring the pitch down on their songs to normal pitch again, sounds awful, cheap and teenage discoish.

Sounds great on KISS Fm Uk but not so much on 104 unfortunately

gavindowd

Cookie Policy wrote: »

Many people on the Radio forum work directly in the business, some even verified representatives.

I myself do also but to be honest if a station employs a head of station imaging/production there is no excuse for stale imaging or promos.

If someone comments on how great SPIN's imaging is well, they've done it right. They've created an IMAGE that people remember. Take SPIN South West for example they ran very successful imaging back when they started with the tagline/rhyming jingle "102, 103 and 94.7 SPIN..SPIN South West!" people remember the name when you say SPIN people instantly know what you're talking about, job done!

Any producer worth their money with a bit of creativity can work a sponsor into their imaging very easily. I do agree with RoundyMooney about Red FM's imaging though, way past it's sell by date. Their top of hour and out of break imaging has been the same for years.

Firstly,


SPIN's imaging is not at all made/produced in-house, it was brought in from Puretonic Media (Now part of Reelworld). And 98fm's jingles were made by Puretonic, but their imaging by Benztown Branding (I'm pretty sure).

The Red fm jingles were purchased in 2004, it must be costly for them as a station as they have to pay back 15% of the purchase price each year that they use the jingles. It is rare to see a station with jingles for that long. I think their imaging is great, but for some reason that Irish female gets on everyone's nerves.

That Spin South West jingle is no longer being used, insted they have generic 'SPIN' jingles.

Cookie Policy

gavindowd wrote: »

Firstly,


SPIN's imaging is not at all made/produced in-house, it was brought in from Puretonic Media (Now part of Reelworld). And 98fm's jingles were made by Puretonic, but their imaging by Benztown Branding (I'm pretty sure).

The Red fm jingles were purchased in 2004, it must be costly for them as a station as they have to pay back 15% of the purchase price each year that they use the jingles. It is rare to see a station with jingles for that long. I think their imaging is great, but for some reason that Irish female gets on everyone's nerves.

That Spin South West jingle is no longer being used, insted they have generic 'SPIN' jingles.

98FM have their own in house imaging producer for specifically imaging. But buy their ramps and sungs from another company.

SPIN South West don't just use generic jingles they have got ones that specifically say "SPIN South West" I've heard them yesterday, they've reworked them into their new imaging.

SPIN 1038 on the other hand only buy ramps and sung jingles from Puretonic the rest of their imaging is produced in house.

gavindowd

Cookie Policy wrote: »

98FM have their own in house imaging producer for specifically imaging. But buy their ramps and sungs from another company.

SPIN South West don't just use generic jingles they have got ones that specifically say "SPIN South West" I've heard them yesterday, they've reworked them into their new imaging.

SPIN 1038 on the other hand only buy ramps and sung jingles from Puretonic the rest of their imaging is produced in house.

I am aware that SPIN and 98fm have their own commercial producers (Lisa Dignam and Paul Duffy), but I don't think that they produce the imaging.

Paul in 98 might, but I know for a fact that Puretonic Media produce SPIN's imaging and sung jingles.

EDIT: Paul Duffy definitely produces the imaging for 98fm, still unsure about SPIN. Puretonic used to have demos of their imaging on their website

eiresandra

Paul Duffy moved to 4FM about 18 months ago. John O'Keeffe, formerly of iRadio, moved to 98 at the same time.

hufpc8w3adnk65

eiresandra wrote: »

Paul Duffy moved to 4FM about 18 months ago. John O'Keeffe, formerly of iRadio, moved to 98 at the same time.

PPI Award winner John O Keeffe..ha ha but yes he works at 98 now

LisaSpin

gavindowd wrote: »

I am aware that SPIN and 98fm have their own commercial producers (Lisa Dignam and Paul Duffy), but I don't think that they produce the imaging.

Paul in 98 might, but I know for a fact that Puretonic Media produce SPIN's imaging and sung jingles.

EDIT: Paul Duffy definitely produces the imaging for 98fm, still unsure about SPIN. Puretonic used to have demos of their imaging on their website

Hi Gavin,

Lisa - Spin Production Manager here

Don't usually post at all but just want to set the record straight in regards Spin 1038 imaging.

While we used to get all our imaging from Puretonic. We currently produce all our imaging in house.

We do still use the sung jingles and beds from Puretonic however.

Paul Duffy is no longer with 98, he's with 4fm at the moment!

Either way - it's nice to see all the positive comments here and I'm glad you all, for the most part, seem to like it,

Thanks,

L

gavindowd

LisaSpin wrote: »

Hi Gavin,

Lisa - Spin Production Manager here

Don't usually post at all but just want to set the record straight in regards Spin 1038 imaging.

While we used to get all our imaging from Puretonic. We currently produce all our imaging in house.

We do still use the sung jingles and beds from Puretonic however.

Paul Duffy is no longer with 98, he's with 4fm at the moment!

Either way - it's nice to see all the positive comments here and I'm glad you all, for the most part, seem to like it,

Thanks,

L

Sorry about the confusion, thanks for clearing things up and keep up the good work!

PS. If you can please the anorak's on the forums, you can please virtually anyone

gavindowd

Am I right that iRadio (who have great imaging) use the Clyde 1 news bed?