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Bands / Musicians Wanted - Venues & Promotion Guaranteed

  • 18-04-2010 08:06PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1


    Pregnant Nun Productions is looking for new up and coming acts to play in a variety of venues in Dublin, and elsewhere in the Country.

    We provide the Venues, Promotion & Marketing, Management and Production. We will have several bands playing at each gig. All we require is that the venue be paid by the bands that are playing, with 50/50 split between you and us on the door.

    This is a fantastic no fuss deal, with everything arranged in advance, allowing you to concentrate on the music.

    So, if your interested please drop us a line with your email address. We look forward to hearing from you soon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭galwaybabe


    So, what will we get? A tenner each is it? I'm getting soooooooo sick of these so-called promotion offers. Anyone else with me on this? ~how the feck is anyone going to make a decent living from sharing the door with several other bands while giving 50% to someone who slaps a few posters up and whatever. GET REAL will ya!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 ldee


    Pregnant Nun Productions is looking for new up and coming acts to play in a variety of venues in Dublin, and elsewhere in the Country.

    We provide the Venues, Promotion & Marketing, Management and Production. We will have several bands playing at each gig. All we require is that the venue be paid by the bands that are playing, with 50/50 split between you and us on the door.

    This is a fantastic no fuss deal, with everything arranged in advance, allowing you to concentrate on the music.

    So, if your interested please drop us a line with your email address. We look forward to hearing from you soon.

    Ha ha - i love a good laugh on a monday morning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 288 ✭✭yoursaviour1989


    What are you doing that's so different to all the other so called promoters up and down the country?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Pregnant Nun Productions is looking for new up and coming acts to play in a variety of venues in Dublin, and elsewhere in the Country.

    We provide the Venues, Promotion & Marketing, Management and Production. We will have several bands playing at each gig. All we require is that the venue be paid by the bands that are playing, with 50/50 split between you and us on the door.

    This is a fantastic no fuss deal, with everything arranged in advance, allowing you to concentrate on the music.

    So, if your interested please drop us a line with your email address. We look forward to hearing from you soon.

    HA! So you don't even have any risk??!! What would give YOU the reason to put ANY work in at all?

    I call charlatan!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭KeithTS


    This sounds like a great deal for these chaps, they make a phonecall to a venue and make 100% profit from it.
    What production is offered???
    What promotion is offered???
    What's your level of managerial experience???

    The music scene in Ireland is getting worse by the second because of arseholes looking to cash in on the naive.
    I just find it utterly depressing that there are people out there foolish enough to fall for it.

    Anybody reading this, i'll offer FREE management and production services for any bands I like the sound of, I'll also organise decent gigs for ya'll, I won't pay for the venue but I won't ask for a cent of your takings on the door!!!
    I will gladly do this, not to make money but to try and make a stand, however small, against thieves like our good old thread starter here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭eoin5


    KeithTS wrote: »
    This sounds like a great deal for these chaps, they make a phonecall to a venue and make 100% profit from it.
    What production is offered???
    What promotion is offered???
    What's your level of managerial experience???

    The music scene in Ireland is getting worse by the second because of arseholes looking to cash in on the naive.
    I just find it utterly depressing that there are people out there foolish enough to fall for it.

    Anybody reading this, i'll offer FREE management and production services for any bands I like the sound of, I'll also organise decent gigs for ya'll, I won't pay for the venue but I won't ask for a cent of your takings on the door!!!
    I will gladly do this, not to make money but to try and make a stand, however small, against thieves like our good old thread starter here.

    My spider senses are tingling...

    Edit: No results for pregnant nun productions on teh interweb, except this thread. If someone wanted to make themselves look good in order to entice business it wouldnt be the worst thing to create a phony company to look crap and then join looking like youre the saving grace of the situation. Of course I could be wrong, but my skepticism runs deep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 Avaya79


    Pregnant Nuns Productions....no sign of this on the internet...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 FlyingCircus


    +1 Eoin5 this smell bad.

    Anyway another of these so called "promoters" that don't have a website or a mailing list............

    charlatans Papa said and charlatans they are.....

    Young bands stay away...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,357 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Pregnant Nun Productions is looking for new up and coming acts to play in a variety of venues in Dublin, and elsewhere in the Country.

    We provide the Venues, Promotion & Marketing, Management and Production. We will have several bands playing at each gig. All we require is that the venue be paid by the bands that are playing, with 50/50 split between you and us on the door.

    This is a fantastic no fuss deal, with everything arranged in advance, allowing you to concentrate on the music.

    So, if your interested please drop us a line with your email address. We look forward to hearing from you soon.

    I was worried for a while, up until this sentense! Thank you for clearing it up that the bands are in fact getting a fantastic deal.

    Well done Sir, you are a gentleman and a scholar

    (Waits for MilanPan!c to defend these guys)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭KeithTS


    eoin5 wrote: »
    My spider senses are tingling...

    Edit: No results for pregnant nun productions on teh interweb, except this thread. If someone wanted to make themselves look good in order to entice business it wouldnt be the worst thing to create a phony company to look crap and then join looking like youre the saving grace of the situation. Of course I could be wrong, but my skepticism runs deep.


    I'm not quite sure if that was a dig at me or not.......My Spidey sense seems to be acting up these days, gotta get that checked out!!

    I'm in no way affiliated with anything going on here.
    I was just making a point that the music scene is run by miscreants like this and people need to step up to these folks and say enough is enough.

    I was juyst saying that I would gladly help any band starting out with some basics and advise on what will be best for them if it meant the end of the this whole carry on and I'm sure there are lot's of people out there that would do the same.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 the hamburger


    I am in band from outside dublin and it pees me off to see comments like above.

    bands in dublin cant make money
    venues have to be paid, sound engineers need money, posters need to go up adds need to be done. so let me see the hurlers on the ditch want someone else to do all the work swan into the gig , probally bring no crowd and collect their money please get real it doesnt happen , santa does not exist, where in dublin will you gat a share get get get real


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭miju


    KeithTS wrote: »
    I will gladly do this, not to make money but to try and make a stand, however small, against thieves like our good old thread starter here.

    The easiest way of making a stand again "promoters" like the OP is to simply not gig with them and go to promoters who actually know how to promote, run and pay bands properly

    Unfortunately, theres ALOT of naive bands out there.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I am in band from outside dublin and it pees me off to see comments like above.

    bands in dublin cant make money
    venues have to be paid, sound engineers need money, posters need to go up adds need to be done. so let me see the hurlers on the ditch want someone else to do all the work swan into the gig , probally bring no crowd and collect their money please get real it doesnt happen , santa does not exist, where in dublin will you gat a share get get get real

    hmmmm...

    Have a read of this: http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055398462

    Especially this part:
    3) Co-operative promotion
    This is what I did when I was promoting gigs. It's an idealistic way of looking at things, but I chose this way. I book a good line up, with a strong main band, a strong 2cd band and a band to open that might not have that much experience onstage. I had a friend design the posters and fliers, print them at a budget print shop and give them to the bands to hand out/stick up as well as myself.
    When all expenses are met, (printing, hire of room etc.) all profits were then split equally with each band an myself as one unit. For instance if it was a three band bash it would be 25% + 25% + 25% + 25%=100%. If there was no profit, I took the hit out of my own pocket. That is the risk and is the challenge in booking acts.

    Promoters as a general rule are greedy lazy bast*rds. There are some good ones out there, but generally they're the laziest shower I have ever met.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭KeithTS


    The only way to do it properly is to pay for the venue and put a lot of work into promotion yourself.

    It will cost a couple hundred but if you do a good job you should at least break even, anything else is a bonus.

    It's all about making a name for your band and making sure that when people come to your show they get good value for money and a good show. (Most promoters you meet don't care about that)
    If you do this and you are any good you will start to develop a good fanbase and fill venues and start to make money, it can and has been done.

    If you want to make money from your band you need to treat it like a business and the first rule of business is you gotta spend money to make money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,357 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    I am in band from outside dublin and it pees me off to see comments like above.

    bands in dublin cant make money
    venues have to be paid, sound engineers need money, posters need to go up adds need to be done. so let me see the hurlers on the ditch want someone else to do all the work swan into the gig , probally bring no crowd and collect their money please get real it doesnt happen , santa does not exist, where in dublin will you gat a share get get get real

    Lad, you're the guy who wanted advice on things like this just last week!

    Now you speak like an authority?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭eoin5


    KeithTS wrote: »
    I'm not quite sure if that was a dig at me or not.......My Spidey sense seems to be acting up these days, gotta get that checked out!!

    I'm in no way affiliated with anything going on here.
    I was just making a point that the music scene is run by miscreants like this and people need to step up to these folks and say enough is enough.

    I was juyst saying that I would gladly help any band starting out with some basics and advise on what will be best for them if it meant the end of the this whole carry on and I'm sure there are lot's of people out there that would do the same.

    Ah rite, when I saw:
    ...i'll offer FREE management and production services for any bands I like the sound of
    it kinda seemed dodgy, like you had created your own 'good cop - bad cop' routine. Apologies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,770 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    small bands dont need promoters, they just need to get up of thier arses and organise some gigs for themselves. If they cant do that , then they arent ready to gig.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 the hamburger


    Are anybody in this thread actually in a real band, a real promotor, Typical Irish people ye just want to knock anybody. If it was easy to make money there would be hundreds of promotors. We paly the small venues, bands dont even hang around to hear you play. In the uk bands support each other, saty at the gigs, I spoke to the Girl from pregnant nun, she seem ok look if we dont bring a crowd she dosent earn , but for goodness sake look at the uasual hants , pravda, the pint , whelans upstairs its depressing,we are happy to go along- because that is we are a real band , not some dusgruntled middle aged wannabees who comment on everything, again typical irish responce , if you dont understand it,knock it.

    so lets see the other suggestions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,770 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    i have been in bands for many years playing originals and we've never used a promoter yet. We book and run our own gigs, as most bands do. I cant see A) why you're getting wound up and B) why you think its so hard to book gigs. Have you ever tried C) playing webgigs online?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭miju


    Are anybody in this thread actually in a real band, a real promotor, Typical Irish people ye just want to knock anybody. If it was easy to make money there would be hundreds of promotors. We paly the small venues, bands dont even hang around to hear you play. In the uk bands support each other, saty at the gigs, I spoke to the Girl from pregnant nun, she seem ok look if we dont bring a crowd she dosent earn , but for goodness sake look at the uasual hants , pravda, the pint , whelans upstairs its depressing,we are happy to go along- because that is we are a real band , not some dusgruntled middle aged wannabees who comment on everything, again typical irish responce , if you dont understand it,knock it.

    I'm sorry but this is funny. I hope the irony of you saying people are not understanding isn't lost on you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 FlyingCircus


    I think Human Music and Gigsmart are good promoters they don't ask anything just that you bring your backline you don't get pay but it's well organized check their website and you see who serious and who is a scammer.

    OP look like a scammer to me "don't worry you pay and we split".....before doing that i would like to see her mailing list a proof that she already book ads on local radio,their website (at the moment non existant) update with my gigs (or other bands gigs), ads on local newspaper, posters.

    None of of the above means scam to me.

    and if she so cool why she does not reply defend herself that she is in good faith and explain to us what she can do for the bands?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'll plus one on human music. And tbh, I'm not slating anyone here, but I have mixed views re: Gigsmart. I find them too obsessed with the RAWK! While Human Music seem to cater for a much wider range of genre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭new fang


    this is thread is like a dragons den pitch gone horribly, horribly wrong


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭miju


    I think Human Music and Gigsmart are good promoters they don't ask anything just that you bring your backline you don't get pay but it's well organized check their website and you see who serious and who is a scammer.

    TBH being paid something from the OP would better than getting paid nothing. After all fresh air doesnt pay for studios or add to the bands kitty for promoting , furthering themselves.

    Haven't heard much on Human Music so cant comment on them but I'd trust Papa Smuts judgement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 FlyingCircus


    between get pay 50E for play in front of 20 of your friends and play Knockanstockan for free.......I choose Knockanstockan give you exposure and especially you can finally enjoy play a real gig just my opinion in the end......play The Pint in front of 20 of your friends and get 50E or play Button Factory with the place packed for free...I'm going for the second one.......fresh air don't pay I agree but in the end something can happen you never know


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    miju wrote: »
    TBH being paid something from the OP would better than getting paid nothing. After all fresh air doesnt pay for studios or add to the bands kitty for promoting , furthering themselves.

    Haven't heard much on Human Music so cant comment on them but I'd trust Papa Smuts judgement.

    If you just get rid of the cat you'll save at least 50e a month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭PMI


    Bottom line is no one needs promotors till you hit the big leagues :)

    If your music is strong enough, you record your ass off and you travel and work your ass off and promote like a machine from 9-9 everyday it will happen..... :D

    If you write 5 songs and think the world owes ya then forget it. 1 a day is a good rule to stick to.

    if you want to do 1 gig a month and hope for money, your already dead in the water, so hope you enjoy the day job for life....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,357 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Are anybody in this thread actually in a real band, a real promotor, Typical Irish people ye just want to knock anybody. If it was easy to make money there would be hundreds of promotors. We paly the small venues, bands dont even hang around to hear you play. In the uk bands support each other, saty at the gigs, I spoke to the Girl from pregnant nun, she seem ok look if we dont bring a crowd she dosent earn , but for goodness sake look at the uasual hants , pravda, the pint , whelans upstairs its depressing,we are happy to go along- because that is we are a real band , not some dusgruntled middle aged wannabees who comment on everything, again typical irish responce , if you dont understand it,knock it.

    so lets see the other suggestions

    Could i have a link to your MySpace please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    and if she so cool why she does not reply defend herself that she is in good faith and explain to us what she can do for the bands?



    I've being thinking that myself. Thought she would have replied by now :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 the hamburger


    my point exactly there are bands here wuth a myspace profile of 20 plays in total , this is my point


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,357 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    my point exactly there are bands here wuth a myspace profile of 20 plays in total , this is my point

    When you say "My point exactly", who are you replying to?

    Also, can i have a link to your MySpace? I've asked already. You can just say no if you wish!

    Btw, the "20 views" comment is directed at me. The MySpace is a day old. However, that is of no consequence to my prior experience within bands, the music industry and in business in general. The Op is an unproven "Promoter" who nobody has heard of giving a bad deal. They have not even bothered to come back and answer questions asked of them. (Despite having logged in after the questions were posed, presumably seen the questions).

    If you read the thread, you will realise you are the only one who believes being ripped off in this way is a good idea and you have shown nothing but naivity in your posts.

    If you were "a real band , not some dusgruntled middle aged wannabees" you would not need to ask questions like:
    Originally posted by the hamburger
    hi yas,
    got a call from some new promotion crowd, looking to run or part run some of our gigs, basis deal we fork out 1/3 of venue, price, they get 2 other bands and we get 15%% back of the door, they promote, review the gig, whada ya think

    and looking for advice on such topics as:

    Originally posted by the hamburger

    Hi,
    Just looking for help.
    We are doing a battle of the band comp in Cavan and there it is to be decided by voting.
    We are worried because
    1 we are scheduled to play at 6 which means in voting terms there will be nobody there bar us.
    2 you have to buy votes at 4 Euro-each and you have to buy as many as possible to win the heat!!!
    some bands are going to spend hundreds as the prize is to get a slot in a major festival in england.

    any tips on how to progress bar going on at 10 and bringing wads of cash???

    Thanks

    You seem pretty adept at being ripped off and being happy about it.

    Sorry if i am going off topic a little, but before throwing personal comments, you should maybe think first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 the hamburger


    Yes your right , you shouldnt throw comments and dig up somebodys past posts, I have an opinion, you have an opinion. mine differs from yours.
    Just let it go- dont be angry try some chill music.
    If bands want to use this promotor let them, you cant controll others,
    say the serenity prayer- take it easy its only a forum.
    Ps i logged onto your myspace and think you are very good---


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    fight? fight? fight? fight?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭drumdrum


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    fight? fight? fight? fight?

    Ha haha!! LOL! Nice on MilanPan!c....thanks for the laugh!

    Seriously its like a schoolyard in here.
    It doesnt matter if Hamburger hasnt got a myspace with 100,000+ hits, he has an oppinion and is entitled to express it! Just like we all are!

    Anyways back on topic...

    Yeah OP seems like a Scheister to me..... its the "get bands to pay for the venue" that does it all right...:mad:

    That said, it seems to me that bands that rely on gigs for their income (either entirely or partialls) seem to really have it in for promoters. While I'll agree that the majority of promoters are ****holes, there are a good few.
    I used to put on a couple of shows a few years back for bands and let me tell you....it ended up costing me overall about €500 out of my own pocket for a handful of shows.
    Heres what happened:
    The idea I had was to be an ideal promoter, so that I would provide everything for the bands equipment wise so they could focus on puttin on a good gig!
    I would rent the venue, €150+ depending on venue (usually about €200)
    print out a few posters and money off coupons for the door and give them to the bands. Cost = about €50
    As for the backline, I provided the drums myself, and 1 guitar amp. I rented a bass amp and a guitar amp for another €130
    I promoted the gigs, got my friends to go, put posters and online ads up, and told the bands to do the same.
    Engineer cost about €70
    So far the gig cost me financially about €450 and took years off my life energy wise!

    Come the day of the gig, I brought in about 25 people myself via the online ads and friends. For a Wednesday night, it could of been worse AND considering that I myself wouldnt be playing....
    As for the bands....
    The main band brought in 8 people, 2nd band brought in 7 and the last band brought 3!
    No for the math....25 + 8 + 7 + 3 = 43. At €10 at the door, with €7 concession, most people were concession (all they had to do was mention the site where they saw the ad or have a coupon). If my records are correct, that night I had 39 concession, 4 normal.
    4 x €10 = €40
    39 x €7 = €273
    total = €313
    Running cost = €450
    Total LOSS = €137...out of my own pocket.

    Its partly my fault for choosing lazy bands, but I was younger and naive and the bands all told me that they would email their fan bases and I was "promised" 30 people by one band......
    The only redeeming factor was that the main band played their socks off which was nice to see, even if the room was mostly empty!

    Im not stupid, I know I did some things wrong somewhere along the line, but let me tell you after making a loss at 4 out of 5 gigs, I had had enough. Irish bands seriously need to wake up and realise that for the GOOD promoters (not like the OP here), and especially young promoters, that these people are only flesh and blood too and that if they can consistantly put on gigs especially for younger bands to give them a shot, the more experienced bands need to pull their weight until they are ready to put on their own shows.

    Its very easy to knock and ridicule promoters but IMHO it has been the case that a few bad apples spoil the batch. But until you've put on shows yourself and seen how much effort and money can so easily go to waste if ALL parties involved dont do their thing, then I think the bands need to wake up and realise the business end of things.

    Nowadays IMHO you're better off as a band to pool your resources together and do the whole gig yourselves. Cut out the middle man because if anything else, it will get you more driven to make it a success for yourself, instead of hoping a magical promoter will the people there for you. There is only so much one person can do for you, but the band armed with not only their tunes (a demo CD or whatever), but with a confident energy can attract people with more tangible proof than "oh come to my show. There is a great band playing. Heres the myspace link of the bands!"

    .......Plus, you can make more €€€! :cool::cool::D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,357 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Yes your right , you shouldnt throw comments and dig up somebodys past posts, I have an opinion, you have an opinion. mine differs from yours.
    Just let it go- dont be angry try some chill music.
    If bands want to use this promotor let them, you cant controll others,
    say the serenity prayer- take it easy its only a forum.
    Ps i logged onto your myspace and think you are very good---

    Yup, you're fully entitled to your opinion of course. And i was expressing mine, but you attempted a dig, so i responded. Sorry if any offence was caused by the way!

    Oh and thanks for the compliment :D

    I understand that some bands have no problem playing these gigs and will happily pay to play, that is fine! I have no problem with the bands.

    But what i don't like is when i see people try to take advantage of this fact and exploit young bands for their own personal gain. Whether it be in music or any kind of industry, i dispise bottom feeders! They're the lowest of the low.

    The OP could well be a very well respected promoter and promote incredibly! Get 100s of people to turn up and it could turn out to be a profitable time for everyone....... BUT there are a lot of Cowboys out there in it for a quick buck! And the more these Cowboys succeed, the more Cowboys enter the market and the more exploitation happens!


    For the record, i am not calling the OP a bottom feeder :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 90 ✭✭thelastpartizan


    Do you notice when someone is losing an argument on the internet they always come up with that same cop out "everyone is entitled to their opinion bull****" :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,357 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Do you notice when someone is losing an argument on the internet they always come up with that same cop out "everyone is entitled to their opinion bull****" :mad:

    Or resort to racism! :P

    Where would the interweb be without racism eh? :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭8k2q1gfcz9s5d4


    Are anybody in this thread actually in a real band, a real promotor, Typical Irish people ye just want to knock anybody. If it was easy to make money there would be hundreds of promotors. We paly the small venues, bands dont even hang around to hear you play. In the uk bands support each other, saty at the gigs, I spoke to the Girl from pregnant nun, she seem ok look if we dont bring a crowd she dosent earn , but for goodness sake look at the uasual hants , pravda, the pint , whelans upstairs its depressing,we are happy to go along- because that is we are a real band , not some dusgruntled middle aged wannabees who comment on everything, again typical irish responce , if you dont understand it,knock it.

    so lets see the other suggestions


    Get off your high horse. a "real band"? Right, try being in an all original band, in the west of ireland, where there are no real audience for original music so all the gigs are in dublin, and mainly mid week. add in a full time job on top of that. Considering it takes around over an hour and a half to get home after a gig (and too the gig), and work the next day, i dont see why i should "feel bad" about not watching the band playing after us if they didnt even bother to say hello during the sound checks. last week i played a gig where i meet a fellow boards poster for the first time (pure fluke!), i made sure i seen their set. I find a lot of young bands are up their own arse, and just hand out with their own click at a gig.


    if you dont understand it,knock it.
    we do understand it, we knock it because its mostly sh1t. If you dont want the advice of people that have years of experience why post here? or do you know everything? Ive been gigging for a good few years, and have been stung by doggy promoters in the past. once bitten twice shy, im just trying to pass my experience to young bands, as doggy promoters mainly target them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭8k2q1gfcz9s5d4


    miju wrote: »
    TBH being paid something from the OP would better than getting paid nothing. After all fresh air doesnt pay for studios or add to the bands kitty for promoting , furthering themselves.

    Haven't heard much on Human Music so cant comment on them but I'd trust Papa Smuts judgement.


    however, you have to pay part of the rental of the venue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 200 ✭✭bassbomber


    galwaybabe wrote: »
    So, what will we get? A tenner each is it? I'm getting soooooooo sick of these so-called promotion offers. Anyone else with me on this? ~how the feck is anyone going to make a decent living from sharing the door with several other bands while giving 50% to someone who slaps a few posters up and whatever. GET REAL will ya!!!
    GOOD MAN!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 210 ✭✭stevood


    We started out giggin with soundgate music who were very good to us and we rewarded them with numbers. As novices it was good to be shown all the basics and learn. It didn't seem to be about the money as they were music fans.

    Now we do our own shows and support bands who do their own shows.
    Last October we got a nice 250 into the village for our Ep launch and cleared approx €1800 profit (all went towards cost of making the Ep)

    We are releasing our first single May 28th in the vilaage and hope to build on this number.

    We learnt the basics from the promoters, got some much needed experience and went on from there.
    I'd advise bands to choose who they gig with and find out as much information as possible before agreeing to the gig. If you like whats offered go with it. Otherwise don't. Try and help each other.

    www.myspace.com/soundproof


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 pauljotoole


    Sounds interesting...
    pauljotoole@eircom.net:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dom17


    not some dusgruntled middle aged wannabees

    i used to be one of them now im just an old wannabee :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Get off your high horse. a "real band"? Right, try being in an all original band, in the west of ireland, where there are no real audience for original music so all the gigs are in dublin, and mainly mid week. add in a full time job on top of that. Considering it takes around over an hour and a half to get home after a gig (and too the gig), and work the next day, i dont see why i should "feel bad" about not watching the band playing after us if they didnt even bother to say hello during the sound checks. last week i played a gig where i meet a fellow boards poster for the first time (pure fluke!), i made sure i seen their set. I find a lot of young bands are up their own arse, and just hand out with their own click at a gig.


    if you dont understand it,knock it.
    we do understand it, we knock it because its mostly sh1t. If you dont want the advice of people that have years of experience why post here? or do you know everything? Ive been gigging for a good few years, and have been stung by doggy promoters in the past. once bitten twice shy, im just trying to pass my experience to young bands, as doggy promoters mainly target them

    I agree, I am also in a band in The west, The Paul K band, and we do ALL our promotions. Get on the phone, network, meet the venue owners, do the first gig for free and then charge for the rest, and, if you are well rehearsed, and tight, and different, and i stress different...you will do all right without promoters.It is EXTREMELY difficult to get gigs in the west, which is why bands in the west are more resoursefull. Check out www.thepaulkband.com to see how WE do things!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Could i have a link to your MySpace please?

    And, what is this obsession with Dublin?? There are other places in the country to play, you know!!!!

    www.thepaulkband.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,357 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    greenpilot wrote: »
    And, what is this obsession with Dublin?? There are other places in the country to play, you know!!!!

    www.thepaulkband.com


    You quoted me..... what did i say about Dublin in that comment? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 culture vandals


    i just think its really sad that a band has to PAY for the privilage to play a fecking gig.. whatever about paying for promotion thats fair enough, but paying a fukin venue just to get on stage.... makes me sick....and i know you'll all tell me how nieve i am for saying it, but feck it, it's just how i feel on the subject, as for them pregnant muppets... go way and claim the feckin dole will ye and stop complicating an already highly band unfriendly gigging system here in ireland....aghhhhhhhhhhh....

    sorry if i'm ranting...bad day all round
    EdV

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    http://www.myspace.com/culture_vandals


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 Avaya79


    i just think its really sad that a band has to PAY for the privilage to play a fecking gig.. whatever about paying for promotion thats fair enough, but paying a fukin venue just to get on stage.... makes me sick....and i know you'll all tell me how nieve i am for saying it, but feck it, it's just how i feel on the subject, as for them pregnant muppets... go way and claim the feckin dole will ye and stop complicating an already highly band unfriendly gigging system here in ireland....aghhhhhhhhhhh....

    sorry if i'm ranting...bad day all round
    EdV

    _________________________
    http://www.myspace.com/culture_vandals

    I agree with you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 320 ✭✭louloumc89


    Just read this whole thread, very interesting.

    I'm in a band myself. We're based in Limerick. I find it is very easy to get gigs here. Not making any money off it, but shur we don't care. But at least we're not paying to play to people. We've gigged in loadsa places like Baker Place, the underground, upstairs in Dolans, we recently headlined a night in dolans warehouse. We've been down to Cork, played an brog and fred zeppelins. These are all great venues. But we're looking to book a night in Dublin and like...it's crazy. I mailed a few venues we heard good things about. It seems we're just going to have to shell out to even get a decent gig. Maybe if we weren't all students, it would be easier. At the same time, gigging down the country won't get you nearly as far as gigging in Dublin. It's a nightmare.

    I'd love to be able to afford to take the risk of booking a nice big venue in Dublin and promoting the **** outta it. But I just can't.
    stevood wrote: »
    Now we do our own shows and support bands who do their own shows.
    Last October we got a nice 250 into the village for our Ep launch and cleared approx €1800 profit (all went towards cost of making the Ep)

    Fair play to you. I had a listen to your myspace there, yous sound really good!

    If anybody is looking for a punk promoter in Cork. This guy called laserface booked some for us...great guy. He a gig in Fred Zeppelins we played at, we're doing another on 22nd May. Would totally recommend him. http://www.myspace.com/laserfacemusic You won't get paid much, but he promotes the gigs we'll, doesn't take any profit for himself. Just splits the door between the bands/posters/venue

    My band is V.A.G. by the way. Or Very Angry Girls..
    www.myspace.com/veryangrygirls


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭miju


    louloumc89 wrote: »
    But we're looking to book a night in Dublin and like...it's crazy. I mailed a few venues we heard good things about. It seems we're just going to have to shell out to even get a decent gig. Maybe if we weren't all students, it would be easier. At the same time, gigging down the country won't get you nearly as far as gigging in Dublin. It's a nightmare.</p>
    I'd love to be able to afford to take the risk of booking a nice big venue in Dublin and promoting the **** outta it. But I just can't.
    Well you know what to do then dont you? Get your ass onto mySpace / Facebook and find some Dublin bands to gig swap with.I can gaurentee theres plenty of Dublin bands who would love to get down to Cork
    PM me and I'll point you in the right direction if you like.


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