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Look at what I received in the post today!!

  • 09-04-2010 10:53pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭


    Ok so I typed up a letter to the Dept of Social Welfare informing them of a change of address, with a copy of a signed tenancy agreement from a Letting Agent on Letting agents official headed paper and requested all future mailings to be sent to new address.

    Secondly i sent them a form that an Insurance Company had asked me to send back stamped by Dept Social Welfare.

    Simple or so I though until all my paperwork was returned to me today.....with the following attached.

    I am still in shock at the state of the letter, spelling and complete lack of professionalism not to mention the double standards contained within the scrawled response.

    (Hope the jpeg is legible as I'm doing my best with the poor raw material that was sent back to me)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    :D:D Jaysus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭magick


    very professional !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,285 ✭✭✭bonzodog2


    Shocking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,331 ✭✭✭✭bronte


    Ahaha! they're employing 8 year olds now.
    That's a joke!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    See you got a letter from management.

    You should feel privileged.

    Nothing about the public service surprises me,
    they can do what they want without fear of losing their jobs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    At least it's in basic English.:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Trying to read that was wrecking my head so I've resized to something more managable.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    Was it written in crayon too??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,072 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Please say that this is a piss take


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Freyja


    Please say that this is a piss take

    I swear on the life of my child that this is absolutely honestly the truth....I had to post it on here cause I'm totally shocked.
    Is there someplace or someone I can contact to complain?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Freyja


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    Trying to read that was wrecking my head so I've resized to something more managable.

    Thank you...oh computer savvy person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    This is the last correspondence I received from the social welfare.
    I think they made a mix up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,285 ✭✭✭bonzodog2


    Freyja wrote: »
    I swear on the life of my child that this is absolutely honestly the truth....I had to post it on here cause I'm totally shocked.
    Is there someplace or someone I can contact to complain?

    How about the manager of the office ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭punkindrublic


    My kid sister has better handwriting than that! How professional


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Freyja


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    This is the last correspondence I received from the social welfare.
    I think they made a mix up.

    Now your just taking the piss: still I'm laughing...thanks for that...
    Meanwhile back at the ranch of reality...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Freyja wrote: »
    Ok so I typed up a letter to the Dept of Social Welfare informing them of a change of address, with a copy of a signed tenancy agreement from a Letting Agent on Letting agents official headed paper and requested all future mailings to be sent to new address.

    Secondly i sent them a form that an Insurance Company had asked me to send back stamped by Dept Social Welfare.

    Simple or so I though until all my paperwork was returned to me today.....with the following attached.

    I am still in shock at the state of the letter, spelling and complete lack of professionalism not to mention the double standards contained within the scrawled response.

    (Hope the jpeg is legible as I'm doing my best with the poor raw material that was sent back to me)
    ..........

    Well, nobody signed this response. Its toilet paper and doesnt mean a damned thing. You may as well regard it that they have not responded to you. I would call them saying as much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,072 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Freyja wrote: »
    I swear on the life of my child that this is absolutely honestly the truth....I had to post it on here cause I'm totally shocked.
    Is there someplace or someone I can contact to complain?

    http://www.independent.ie/service/contact-us-24070.html

    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    OP, I don't know what your problem is - you got a concise and personal letter from the Dept. Is it the content that bothers you? You need to provide proper proof of domicile, the fact that the reply was not typed is neither here nor there. Or is it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 485 ✭✭Elenxor


    well they are on a go 'slow'


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Well, at least they replied :D

    It looks like they were trying to do you a favour by telling you what you needed for once. They probably had to hide in a cupboard to write it, lest they got found out by the machine and risk getting turned into mulchy Soylent Green.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    bonzodog2 wrote: »
    How about the manager of the office ?

    He's busy on a playdate with Billy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭nehpets10


    :D:D Jaysus.

    That sums this up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 stars in eyes


    http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Publications/SW104/Pages/CommentsorComplaints.aspx


    new to site, if the above shows as a link, then it is the official complaints proceedure for social welfare. havn't read it yet, so.......?

    oh and they have a "commitment to quality service statement", lol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭Fago!


    The thread title reminds me of Ray Foley's old radio feature "What did we get in the post"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,285 ✭✭✭bonzodog2


    He's busy on a playdate with Billy.

    Nice. Who the **** is Billy ? Does Billy have control of the crayons ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Freyja


    nipplenuts wrote: »
    OP, I don't know what your problem is - you got a concise and personal letter from the Dept. Is it the content that bothers you? You need to provide proper proof of domicile, the fact that the reply was not typed is neither here nor there. Or is it?

    Concise it may be, professional it sure as hell is not given the scrawl and incorrect spellings.

    Personal!! Not signed, not on official paper, no structure.

    The content has double standards, When I did send them official notification on headed paper of change of address it was not good enough as I do not yet have a Utility Bill or Bank Statement, I also sent the tenancy agreement to my bank and to my mobile phone provider. As these bills are not issued for another month, what do i do in the meantime, I do not want any notifications being sent to my old address as I am no longer resident there and other people have moved into the old property. The ESB Bill is not due for another two months.

    And the response should have been typed, this is our Public Service and as such should have standards and professionalism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    I will never, ever forget one of my encounters with a public servant.

    He came to the desk in such a state, that had I seen him on the street, I would have assumed that he was homeless. His nails were black with dirt and his hair was matted.
    No-one should turn up to work in that condition.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Freyja


    Should i sell it to a paper....make a few €
    Considering the national outrage.......maybe pour a little petrol on the fire???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    bonzodog2 wrote: »
    Nice. Who the **** is Billy ? Does Billy have control of the crayons ?

    Billy's is rounder at the top!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Well it is called "drawing the Dole".

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭Agonist


    I'd be tempted to write a cheeky response but you might get more pleasure from the situation with a firmly worded letter outlining the problems with their response, i.e. Not signed or dated, not headed paper, no official stamp or identification. Insulting lack of respect shown by the scrawled, garbled note. Point out the inconsistencies too but keep your letter to under one page long to make sure it's read.

    Include a copy of their reply with your letter. Here's the good bit. CC it to the head of department, Minister for Social Welfare, Taoiseach, Pat Kenny, Vincent Browne, Joe Duffy, editors of newspapers, complaints departments, ombudsman etc. At least 30 influential people. Make sure to include a neat list of the cc.s in the letter.

    Then just wait for the replies and post them all here :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭InKonspikuou2


    Is your letter box hooked up to a fax machine by any chance? What the fúck is that shít?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭dr gonzo


    Even for public servants in the mood they're in at the moment this seems a little odd. The first thing that popped into my head reading that was that the person in charge of your case asked for advice from a supervisor or something who in turn wrote it and left it on the desk, then by mistake the person put it in the envelope. Thats a big leap, obviously i have no clue, on top of all that is its incredibly unlikely it would then be posted as is. All joking aside I guess im just a little gobsmacked that a representative of the government could send a supposedly official letter like that without it being a mistake.

    Unfortunately for the country im probably just naive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭spudmonkey17


    How to Complain?

    Firstly, make the complaint.


    Oh God.... :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 John_Cultane


    Strange thing is I worked on the social welfare system and they have an automated letter system. The health boards were responsible for rent when I last checked. Seems unlikely on two fronts.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I call shenanigans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,555 ✭✭✭Gillington


    Sell it to the tabloids!!

    Although that note seems similar to tabloid trash,mightnt get a response


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    I call shenanigans.

    Ill get my broom!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    Wind-up. No question.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    Gillington wrote: »
    Sell it to the tabloids!!

    Although that note seems similar to tabloid trash,mightnt get a response

    That note is actually an improvement on what the tabloids write.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    What the problem OP?

    Can you read not so great?

    Letter tells to page 1 no good, please to send electric/phone/bank bill. Aswell, page 2 not have right head on it.

    Simples

    Me public worker, me deserve pay rise


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Freyja wrote: »
    Simple or so I though until all my paperwork was returned to me today.....with the following attached.

    I am still in shock at the state of the letter, spelling and complete lack of professionalism not to mention the double standards contained within the scrawled response.

    (Hope the jpeg is legible as I'm doing my best with the poor raw material that was sent back to me)

    I'm only going to hazard a guess here, but I suspect that was a note briefly outlining why it couldn't be accepted from a supervisor to who ever was going over your query.

    I'm sure the supervisor would of expected the other guy to put out a proper response.

    I say this from experience working in a call centre and being used to seeing people on the phones just relaying exactly what's in front of them without trying to understand it and explain it more formally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Chorcai


    photoshop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    I'm only going to hazard a guess here, but I suspect that was a note briefly outlining why it couldn't be accepted from a supervisor to who ever was going over your query.

    I'm sure the supervisor would of expected the other guy to put out a proper response.

    .

    nah, not part of the job
    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    Agonist wrote: »
    I'd be tempted to write a cheeky response but you might get more pleasure from the situation with a firmly worded letter outlining the problems with their response, i.e. Not signed or dated, not headed paper, no official stamp or identification. Insulting lack of respect shown by the scrawled, garbled note. Point out the inconsistencies too but keep your letter to under one page long to make sure it's read.

    Include a copy of their reply with your letter. Here's the good bit. CC it to the head of department, Minister for Social Welfare, Taoiseach, Pat Kenny, Vincent Browne, Joe Duffy, editors of newspapers, complaints departments, ombudsman etc. At least 30 influential people. Make sure to include a neat list of the cc.s in the letter.

    Then just wait for the replies and post them all here :)

    Good idea, or you could use all that time and energy to get a job and get off the social, rent allowance etc.. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Kotek Besar


    Problem with making a complaint / writing to the press, is proving that this scribble actually came from the DSW. They'll just deny it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    What's wrong with the letter exactly?

    It's legible, just a bit crooked


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭jdooley28


    its a fake


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    Chorcai wrote: »
    photoshop
    Yes, something so detailed and intricate could not be produced without the help of Adobe Photoshop...


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