Are Striking and kicking based Arts a priority for Defence Force Members?

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There was a similar discussion in the Military Forum last years.

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DaBrow

Seamus Brief Hailstorm wrote: »

There was a similar discussion in the Military Forum last years.

CLICK HERE.

Or I can move the thread over there for discussion?.

Why not invite these fellas to discuss this with us?

cullentom

pablohoney87 wrote: »

Gardai are not technically allowed to kick or punch someone. They do have an asp tho and recieve training in that.

eh,grey area that,members of the gardai are not to be seen throwing punches in the conventional sense of a stand up fist fight but are allowed to use any reasonable force to protect themselves,infact one of the asp strikes that is thought to members is a punch to the midsection of the body with the asp closed in the striking hand!

the self defense thought to the gardai is actually quiet decent,its just that alot of members dont bother keeping up any sort of training after templemore. some gardai that i know are quiet proficient in MA,some trained before or after joining,others who just kept their college thought training fresh.

on topic,the op referred to police specialist units using striking based MA, alot of specialist firearms units both here and in the uk do alot of weapon retention related training involving strikes to create distance and the mets co19 unit teach their officers to kick suspects to the ground keeping both hands on their weapon.i have spoken to officers in the met who said that this practice looks thug-ish but is effective.

i wouldnt be as well educated as some of the other posters as regards to the practicality of teaching striking based martial arts to the defence forces but the training that is being provided to the navys boarding parties seems to be pretty good,alot of arm locks and arrest techniques and of course the asp baton,maybe this type of training would have a practical aspect on peace keeping missions?
just my 2 cents!

Burnt

cullentom wrote: »

the self defense thought to the gardai is actually quiet decent,its just that alot of members dont bother keeping up any sort of training after templemore. some gardai that i know are quiet proficient in MA,some trained before or after joining,others who just kept their college thought training fresh.

I have no idea what is trained in Templemore, but from what i've seen of Gardai in action; in particular, when trying to control and cuff a suspect
they look clueless as to principles of efficient restraint and generally are very flustered.

I've known of a few Garda's over the years that train and were efficient but it seems the exception, big burly men or liberal use of the stick seem
the norm. Like I've said this is from my experience and I'm open to correction

cullentom

id tend to agree,as i said,alot of members dont use the arrest and restraint techniques they are thought in the college and more than a few tend to rely on size and weight over tried and tested techniques thus ending up rolling on the ground with a suspect offender.does no harm to keep fresh,the basics they teach in the college are pretty good,but at the end of the day its up to the individual member to capitalise on continued training!