Traitors to Ireland

Paddy Samurai

Who in your opinion are the Traitors to Ireland.


Cowen fumes at 'treason' allegation

Taoiseach Brian Cowen launched an emotional defence of his political reputation after being accused of economic treason over the multi-billion euro bailout of rogue lender Anglo Irish Bank.

He sounded genuinely upset at the accusation.

http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/national-news/cowen-fumes-at-treason-allegation-2119358.html

landsleaving

In before this becomes a public service bashing thread.

Nemanja91

All local politicians who become ministers and forget were they came from.

I just don't like politicians

AnonoBoy

Paddy Samurai wrote: »

Cowen fumes at 'treason' allegation


He sounded genuinely upset at the accusation.

Well he is supposed to be running the country so it's only natural he'd get annoyed if someone accused him of being a traitor.

xzanti

sumthing something Mary Harney something something something

Biggins

Part of my problem with the bailout is when is enough money, enough to be shelled out!
Fcuk their bonuses! When they go back into profit and payback all the bailouts - then start with the bonuses!

Till then, anyone supporting such bonus payoffs or facilitating them with the money we have coughed up to cover their precious asses, is traitor to the people of Ireland I feel!

TheDuderino

“I will not be accused of seeking to cause treason to my country,” he said. “I find that beyond the pale.”
B Cowan

Sooooooo, does that mean his loyalty is to The Pale and so to Her Majesty in the UK?

Fraudian Slip methinks (yes I know... freudian - fraudian)

Dyr

Problem is that he should be sounding genuinely upset at the fact that he can't show his face in public without having rocks hurled at him. :mad:

gurramok

Hanging is too good for 'em.

bonerm

Roy Keane.

ejmaztec

Bambi wrote: »

Problem is that he should be sounding genuinely upset at the fact that he can't show his face in public without having rocks hurled at him. :mad:

I wonder what his face used to look like, all those years ago before it got turned into a busted bean-bag?

Biggins

Paddy Samurai wrote: »

Who in your opinion are the Traitors to Ireland.

Just on that question, I'd say Terry Wogan a few times.
I remember a LOT of Eurovisions and he real spitefully knocking not just the Irish song entry but the person doing it as well ...and thats besides knocking our country for choosing it.

Ok some songs were absolutely bad but he should/could have been more professional about his words about it/us/the singer.

...then he would kiss ass to the brits! :rolleyes:

WindSock

Awww. Poor Cowen. He seems like such a nice chap too.

Degsy

ejmaztec wrote: »

I wonder what his face used to look like, all those years ago before it got turned into a busted bean-bag?

This is him in the 70's.

recylingbin

Roy Keane walked out on his country.
Michael Collins split his country in two.
Stephen Ireland walked out on his country.

There's something about Cork. I'm going to say all of them.

hinault

It has been an act of financial terrorism.

will1977

Graham Nortan

Does nothing but slag Ireland off

recylingbin

On a serious note, I wonder how much it would have cost the govt to pay off everyone's mortgage and if it would have facilitated a recovery of sorts at a much lower cost to the exchequer while benefitting a hell of a lot of people.

Fratton Fred

Biggins wrote: »

Just on that question, I'd say Terry Wogan a few times.
I remember a LOT of Eurovisions and he real spitefully knocking not just the Irish song entry but the person doing it as well ...and thats besides knocking our country for choosing it.

Ok some songs were absolutely bad but he should/could have been more professional about his words about it/us/the singer.

...then he would kiss ass to the brits! :rolleyes:

Would you, perchance, have been watching the British Broadcasting Corporation's coverage at the time, you west Brit, Jackeen traitor?!?

800 Years!!!

:-))

PaulieBeef

Des Lynam

bazmaiden

And I always thought he was so chilled

SomeFool

Kitchener

Fratton Fred

recylingbin wrote: »

On a serious note, I wonder how much it would have cost the govt to pay off everyone's mortgage and if it would have facilitated a recovery of sorts at a much lower cost to the exchequer while benefitting a hell of a lot of people.

Maybe, but how would that have helped his mates out? How would all Fiann Fails friends with massively indebted companies been able to offload their debts onto the tax payer, whilst still keeping their houses in Ascot, Marbella and Bulgaria.

Won't someone think of the developers.

Dionysus

Paddy Samurai wrote: »

Who in your opinion are the Traitors to Ireland

Bertie Ahern - without doubt, Bertie Ahern. Cowen is left to clean up the mess while the other fella is off in the sunset of Drumcondra thinking of his numerous pensions and his next big lecture payment after 11 years at the top.

If Fingleton and Fitzpatrick had been elected they would be up there with him. They weren't so they aren't.

Theta

Terry Wogan - At least we lets the Brits think he is!!

Biggins

will1977 wrote: »

Graham Nortan
Does nothing but slag Ireland off

He does it in jest and you know he's not serious.
Wogan used to do it with full venom and you knew by his tone, he was serious.

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Would you, perchance, have been watching the British Broadcasting Corporation's coverage at the time, you west Brit, Jackeen traitor?!?

800 Years!!!

:-))

Many years ago when living with me mammy, she used to flick over to listen to the gobschite and what he might say.
The treacherous leach would rant about the Irish, forgetting where he actually came from and where he started in the business.

TheDuderino

recylingbin wrote: »

...
Michael Collins split his country in two.
...
QUOTE]
Collins saved the Country, Dev thought it better to kick off a fight against his "own" people.
Who founded Fianna "we wont let the robbing bankers" Fail?

recylingbin

Dionysus wrote: »

Bertie Ahern - without doubt, Bertie Ahern. Cowen is left to clean up the mess while the other fella is off in the sunset of Drumcondra thinking of his numerous pensions and his next big lecture payment after 11 years at the top.

If Fingleton and Fitzpatrick had been elected they would be up there with him. They weren't so they aren't.

IMO Ahern earned everything he got by living in Drumcondra. All the money in Sean Fitzpatrick's swiss bank accounts couldn't compensate me for that.

recylingbin

TheDuderino wrote: »

recylingbin wrote: »

...
Michael Collins split his country in two.
...
QUOTE]
Collins saved the Country, Dev thought it better to kick off a fight against his "own" people.
Who founded Fianna "we wont let the robbing bankers" Fail?

He split the county in two.
That's a fact.

saved the country
that's an opinion. And an ill thought out one at that.

ejmaztec

Degsy wrote: »

This is him in the 70's.

Christ, they must have started throwing rocks at him from the moment he was born. They could obviously see his potential even then.

Biggins

recylingbin wrote: »

Roy Keane walked out on his country.
Michael Collins split his country in two.
Stephen Ireland walked out on his country.

There's something about Cork. I'm going to say all of them.

I disagree with the Collins bit.
Those not aware of well recorded historic fact will not know of the mess Dev placed him in on purpose and more importantly - why!
Dev was a two faced sod!
Collins was made to be the fall guy, Devs patsy!

Theta

recylingbin wrote: »

He split the county in two.
That's a fact.

saved the country
that's an opinion. And an ill thought out one at that.

Ah now lads come on. It was all going to be a bit of fun! Lets not start one of these threads again!

dlofnep

Are we that short of talent that we actually want to claim Terry Wogan? The Brits can have him, and Graham Norton too.

recylingbin

Biggins wrote: »

I disagree with the Collins bit.
Those not aware of well recorded historic fact will not know of the mess Dev placed him in on purpose and more importantly - why!
Dev was a two faced sod!

Stop learning history from films.

aDeener

that fucking prick conor cruise o'brien

Biggins

recylingbin wrote: »

Stop learning history from films.

Give me some credit!

Historians have put forth after much study, that De Valera deliberately put Collins in this situation knowing that if he came back with an unacceptable treaty, it would seriously damage the reputation of Collins and weaken whatever political kudos he had in Ireland - therefore removing any potential threat he may have been to de Valera at a political level.

bonerm

Graham Norton. The ponce acts like he was born and bred in the UK.

Fratton Fred

Biggins wrote: »

He does it in jest and you know he's not serious.
Wogan used to do it with full venom and you knew by his tone, he was serious.



Many years ago when living with me mammy, she used to flick over to listen to the gobschite and what he might say.
The treacherous leach would rant about the Irish, forgetting where he actually came from and where he started in the business.

Don't let my Mum hear you talk ill of jer dear Terence, she is a confirmed TOG. (Terry's Old Geezers for those of you who never had the pleasure of his Radio 2 breakfast show)

lugha

aDeener wrote: »

that fucking prick conor cruise o'brien

My hero!
Well not exactly, but he did stand up the to the IRA. Kudos for that.

Biggins

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Don't let my Mum hear you talk ill of jer dear Terence, she is a confirmed TOG. (Terry's Old Geezers for those of you who never had the pleasure of his Radio 2 breakfast show)

Aaa well, we all have our crosses to bare! :pac:

The_Minister

recylingbin wrote: »

On a serious note, I wonder how much it would have cost the govt to pay off everyone's mortgage and if it would have facilitated a recovery of sorts at a much lower cost to the exchequer while benefitting a hell of a lot of people.

The thing is, we can't afford to lose all the money we've given to the banks - we are relying on the fact that most of it can be recouped. We aren't just 'giving' the money away, it all still needs to be repaid.

Paying off everyone's mortgage would have bankrupted the country as there was no way that the money could be recouped.

Everything needs to be paid for.

lugha

The_Minister wrote: »

The thing is, we can't afford to lose all the money we've given to the banks - we are relying on the fact that most of it can be recouped. We aren't just 'giving' the money away, it all still needs to be repaid.

Paying off everyone's mortgage would have bankrupted the country as there was no way that the money could be recouped.

Everything needs to be paid for.

I see "make up words" man, David McWilliams pointed out today that Britain are still paying off loans borrowed to finance WW1. :eek:

star.chaser

traveling people

AnonoBoy

Lord Haw-Haw.

Even though he was born in New York he grew up in Ireland.

lugha

star.chaser wrote: »

traveling people

Says the guy posting from the moon!

Fratton Fred

lugha wrote: »

I see "make up words" man, David McWilliams pointed out today that Britain are still paying off loans borrowed to finance WW1. :eek:

I thin WW1 and WWII loans were finally paid off about three years ago, nicely in time to spend 24 gazillion bailing out RBS.

lugha

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Lord Haw-Haw.

Even though he was born in New York he grew up in Ireland.

Seeing as how is was officially a British traitor doesn't than automatically make him an Irish patriot?

lugha

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I thin WW1 and WWII loans were finally paid off about three years ago, nicely in time to spend 24 gazillion bailing out RBS.

Oh God no! So David is wrong about something? :eek:

Fratton Fred

lugha wrote: »

Seeing as how is was officially a British traitor doesn't than automatically make him an Irish patriot?

He was only granted British citizenship so they could hang him for treason.

His trial was great, it was a case of him being sentenced to death and then charges made up to justify the sentence.

He certainly was no Irish hero, that's for sure.

hooradiation

Biggins wrote: »

Just on that question, I'd say Terry Wogan a few times.
I remember a LOT of Eurovisions and he real spitefully knocking not just the Irish song entry but the person doing it as well ...and thats besides knocking our country for choosing it.

Ok some songs were absolutely bad but he should/could have been more professional about his words about it/us/the singer.

Wait, so he doesn't fawn over the fuckawful songs we field into the eurovision and you're convinced he's a *gasp* traitor?

Jesus fucking wept....

Fratton Fred

lugha wrote: »

Oh God no! So David is wrong about something? :eek:

WWI debts paid off in 1934, WWII debts paid off in 2006. Germany are still paying their WWI reparations though.