Benchrest rules

kkelly77

Hi all,

I'm looking for a copy of benchrest shooting competition rules. I've me eye on 2 different rifles and I'm trying to find out what class they fall into and also the rules around what types of scopes are allowed for each class. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks.

K

Cass

There are 3 weight categories.

Sporter - Rifle not exceeding 8.5 pounds including scope, magazine, etc. (excluding rest)

10.5lb - As the name suggests, a rifle not exceeding 10.5 pounds including scope.

Unlimited - Again as the name suggests any weight including scope, etc.

Any scope may be used, but keep in mind that depending on the class you want to shoot in your scope and rifle must come in under the above mentioned weights.

Here is the British benchrest rules, regulations, information, etc. I know they are not Irish , but i think the same values hold true for our shooting.

kkelly77

ezridax wrote: »

There are 3 weight categories.

Sporter - Rifle not exceeding 8.5 pounds including scope, magazine, etc. (excluding rest)

10.5lb - As the name suggests, a rifle not exceeding 10.5 pounds including scope.

Unlimited - Again as the name suggests any weight including scope, etc.

Any scope may be used, but keep in mind that depending on the class you want to shoot in your scope and rifle must come in under the above mentioned weights.

Here is the British benchrest rules, regulations, information, etc. I know they are not Irish , but i think the same values hold true for our shooting.

So there is no limit on magnification of scopes for each class?

kkelly77

Sorry just saw scope mag limits in rulebook posted above

Cass

I use a Weaver fixed 36 power on mine. A friend i shoot with uses a Nightforce BR 12-42x56 on his. Below is a picture of the standard 25 ringer used in BR shooting. The target circle measures 36/37mm from outside to outside. The 10 ring is 6mm and the V-bull is only 1mm.



All targets are inward marking meaning if you break the line of the 10 ring and your bullet hole is primarily in the 9 ring you score a 10.

The crosshair on my weaver scope is so fine that i can move it side to side within the 10 ring. To put it another way my crosshair centre is 1mm wide in relation to the ring as i look down the scope and can fit snuggly in the v-bull.

Bananaman

NASRPC are the body with responsibility for Rimfire Benchrest in Ireland

Most of their monthly competitions include a 50m event - have a look at www.NASRPC.ie or the 'Upcoming Competitions' thread here to see when the next one that suits you is - next is April 25th in ECSC in Roundwood Co Wicklow

B'Man

Bananaman

ezridax wrote: »

All targets are inward marking meaning if you break the line of the 10 ring and your bullet hole is primarily in the 9 ring you score a 10.

That is only true for outdoor events.

For Indoor events you score outward - therefore you only get a 10 if the 'entire' hole is within the 10 ring and not touching the ring itself.

Rathdrum frequently hold 25m Rimfire Benchrest events which, as it is an indoor range, score this way. You'll earn your 10s then.

B'Man

Croppy Boy

A couple of things. The scope limit for the sporting class is 6.5 mag, custom and unlimited you can use any mag.
Secondly, benchrest shooting here is governed by NBAI (National Benchrest Association of Ireland)

Croppy Boy

Bananaman wrote: »

For Indoor events you score outward - therefore you only get a 10 if the 'entire' hole is within the 10 ring and not touching the ring itself.

B'Man

No. Indoor cards are marked the same as outdoor, inward scoring. The little pip in the middle is the 10 ring and also the "X".

bunny shooter

Croppy Boy wrote: »

.........Secondly, benchrest shooting here is governed by NBAI (National Benchrest Association of Ireland)

According to this link the NRAI is an "Interim Member"?

http://www.world-benchrest.com/members.php

Can't find anything on the Web about NBAI?

Croppy Boy

AFAIK there is no web site for the NBAI but they have been registered with the SSAI since 2003. The chairman is Gavin Murphy FRC and the secretary John O'Sullivan also FRC.

Cass

Croppy Boy wrote: »

.............. The little pip in the middle is the 10 ring and also the "X".

The 10 ring and the "X"/"pip" are seperate. The "pip" in the middle is the "x" so if two shooters both score a 250 then they are serperated by the amount of "X"s they score. Thats how i've seen them all been scored. Is this wrong?

Croppy Boy

ezridax wrote: »

The 10 ring and the "X"/"pip" are seperate. The "pip" in the middle is the "x" so if two shooters both score a 250 then they are serperated by the amount of "X"s they score. Thats how i've seen them all been scored. Is this wrong?

On the 25 yd card the 10 ring and the "X" is one in the same, on the 50 m card the "X" is a dot within the 10 ring.

bunny shooter

Croppy Boy wrote: »

AFAIK there is no web site for the NBAI but they have been registered with the SSAI since 2003. The chairman is Gavin Murphy FRC and the secretary John O'Sullivan also FRC.

Now just more confused :eek:

Croppy Boy wrote: »

.........they have been registered with the SSAI since 2003......

It is not listed on SSAI web site

Cass

Ah.

Only shoot 50m.

Cheers.

Bananaman

Currently the structure is as follows
(I only know this as I recently made it my business to find out)

Benchrest Association of Ireland (BRAI) is a part of the
National Association of Sporting Rifle and Pistol Clubs (NASRPC)

NASRPC is a member of the Shooting Sports Association of Ireland (SSAI).
There are only five members - NASRPC, NRAI, NSAI, IPC & ITS.

So the NASRPC is the body recognised by the SSAI as the body with responsibility for Rimfire Benchrest Rifle in Ireland - the BRAI is a subgroup within the NASRPC whose purpose appears to be to hold the International Affiliations.

Gavin Murphy/FRC is the NASRPC National Discipline Co-ordinator for Smallbore Benchrest Rifle. He is also part of the BRAI.

Thats a lot of politics for a very straightforward sport.

BRAI does not - as far as I am aware - hold any events or have any members.

The NASRPC is made up of the shooting clubs themselves and as I said earlier, hold a National Competition every month and most of those include a 50m Smallbore Benchrest Rifle event.

Aside from that there are numerous events held in clubs throughout the country.

Hope it helps.

B'Man

PS: Stick to the shooting and forget the politics - it just gives you headaches and gets in the way of the shooting.

bunny shooter

Thanks B'man

I'm NOT interested in the politics (anymore 'cause like ya say it messes everything up !!!!!!)

I want to shoot rimfire BR as it's one of the cheaper forms of target shooting.

Right, I am a member of MNSCI can I shoot in NASRPC shoots ?

Is MNSCI in NASRPC ?

Can I join NASRPC as an individual ?

Is there any international element to rimfire BR here ?

Do you know what International body, if any, they are affiliated to ?

Bananaman

bunny shooter wrote: »

Right, I am a member of MNSCI can I shoot in NASPRC shoots ?

Of course

bunny shooter wrote: »

Is MNSCI in NASRPC ?

As far as I am aware MNSCI is not, presently, a member of the NASRPC

bunny shooter wrote: »

Thanks B'man
Can I join NASPRC as an individual ?

No - only clubs or ranges can join the NASRPC at present.

bunny shooter wrote: »

Thanks B'man
Is there any international element to rimfire BR here ?

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Yes there is.

Fermoy Rifle Club are holding an International Shoot on April 17th & 18th - see http://www.fermoyrifleclub.com/Calendar.htm for more info - this is an FRC event.

There are numerous International Events throughout Europe and further afield.

NASRPC have not scheduled any International Benchrest Events in Ireland as yet this year.

Hope it helps.

B'Man

bunny shooter

Cheers B'man

Cass

Bananaman wrote:

bunnyshooter wrote:

Right, I am a member of MNSCI can I shoot in NASPRC shoots ?

Of course

Just one more there B'man, is it open shoots or any shoot and you are just not ranked?

Cheers.

Bananaman

ezridax wrote: »

Just one more there B'man, is it open shoots or any shoot and you are just not ranked?
Cheers.

All NASRPC Shoots are Open Shoots.

You will receive an NASRPC classification by entering and will be eligible to win on the day.

You know you wanna.....

B'Man

kkelly77

Thanks for the replies all. I'm torn between a Sako Finnfire and a CZ452 Lux. If I go for the Lux I should have money left over to get a .22 semi auto for Gallery rifle as well. Not sure which to go for. I believe the Sako will have me in a more competitve class compared to the CZ.

Bananaman

I may be corrected on this but the 452 should put you in International sporter -it should also be suitable for Sporting (prone) rifle and of course bunnies if you are that way inclined

I'll let the guys who shoot BR competitively comment on how good or bad it is as I only shoot BR for the craic

Gallery Rifle is great craic and is highly recommended - NASRPC alre also responsible for that sport and whereas there are not as many competitions as BR it is on the up - there is a National Postal competition in GR if you are interested - galleryrifle@NASRPC.ie

LB6

There's a little "o" (about that size actually) in the middle of the rings. Partial removal of the ring will only give a 10 score. To get an "X" you will have to fully obliterate the "o" in the middle.

bunny shooter

Bananaman wrote: »

All NASRPC Shoots are Open Shoots.

You will receive an NASRPC classification by entering and will be eligible to win on the day.

You know you wanna.....

B'Man

Can you explain the classification system ?

Cass

Bananaman wrote: »

.....You know you wanna.....

B'Man

Leaning that way alright. Its pure laziness that i haven't entered more comps before now, but that'll change this year.

National Postal competition in GR if you are interested

Is this a typo or a new "sporting mail service" category?

Bananaman

ezridax wrote: »

Leaning that way alright. Its pure laziness that i haven't entered more comps before now, but that'll change this year.




Is this a typo or a new "sporting mail service" category?

There is an NASRPC Gallery Rifle Postal Competition in two disciplines over the next 6 months. €20 Entry/Discipline for the entire competition. One entry per month. First Entry is due by end of April.

1500 Smallbore Gallery Rifle
1500 Centrefire gallery Rifle.

For more information contact galleryrifle@nasrpc.ie

Hope it helps.

B'Man