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What happens if you cant afford the tv licence

  • 27-03-2010 10:54am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭gsxr1


    My work has dried up completely
    I cant get any dole
    I have just enough to cover the mortgage

    Now i have a final notice for a tv lience.

    Seems like pocket change to some. But its a massive mountain of money when there is just no work.

    What will happen. No point fining me. I cant pay that either.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭lugha


    Is it possible to pay weekly? I seem to recall a sort of stamp scheme they had once.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭eth0_


    gsxr1 wrote: »
    My work has dried up completely
    I cant get any dole
    I have just enough to cover the mortgage

    Now i have a final notice for a tv lience.

    Seems like pocket change to some. But its a massive mountain of money when there is just no work.

    What will happen. No point fining me. I cant pay that either.

    You can pay in installments. And if you're registered unemployed you *might* be able to get one for free.

    http://www.anpost.ie/AnPost/GeneralTemplates/ProductsAndServices.aspx?NRMODE=Published&NRNODEGUID={9F63B748-28D5-4093-A1D9-83474E3E52D0}&NRORIGINALURL=/AnPost/tvlicence250108.htm&NRCACHEHINT=Guest#PM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    Start buying a stamp in the Post Office every week. I think they are a fiver. Write to them and explain your circumstances. If they know you're making an effort, and can show the stamps you have bought when the Inspector calls (and copies of letters), you'll be fine. Don't just leave it, it has to be paid.

    Or get rid of the TV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 644 ✭✭✭filthymcnasty


    Sell the telly and get yourself a nice radio. RTE isn't bad on AM these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭ShatterProof


    Need a licence for your radio as well


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭lugha


    Need a licence for your radio as well

    I think not


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Surely there must be some govt. support available to you if things are that tight? Why can't you get dole?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Surely there must be some govt. support available to you if things are that tight? Why can't you get dole?

    Probably was self employed and their PSRI payments were really low


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭alwaysadub


    Surely there must be some govt. support available to you if things are that tight? Why can't you get dole?

    Could be self employed-you get nothing if you are. Bit stupid really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Havent we learned anything as a nation?

    If you cant afford it you cant have it. Simples


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭Elessar


    alwaysadub wrote: »
    Could be self employed-you get nothing if you are. Bit stupid really.

    Not true. Why does everyone think this? You could be entitled to Jobseekers Allowance, which is means tested. And a mortgage interest allowance, and other benefits.

    OP why can't you apply for jobseekers allowance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭eth0_


    Need a licence for your radio as well

    WRONG :D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Tail Wagger


    I don't think it's just good enough for someone to say, I can't afford a TV licence and expect to just not pay it. Other posters have suggested to buy stamps etc, another way to go is , set up a budget account in your Bank which will cover your bills for the year. All your bills are combined and you will be allowed to pay out enough money each month to cover all your bills for the year.

    Last year 2009 what I done, I went through all my bills for the previous year. I looked to see if I could save money anywhere, IE Gas/Light/Sky/Home insurance
    etc. I was amazed that I was able to save about €1,000 over the year on my bills. It's just common sense in the end...


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    I don't think it's just good enough for someone to say, I can't afford a TV licence and expect to just not pay it. Other posters have suggested to buy stamps etc, another way to go is , set up a budget account in your Bank which will cover your bills for the year. All your bills are combined and you will be allowed to pay out enough money each month to cover all your bills for the year.

    Last year 2009 what I done, I went through all my bills for the previous year. I looked to see if I could save money anywhere, IE Gas/Light/Sky/Home insurance
    etc. I was amazed that I was able to save about €1,000 over the year on my bills. It's just common sense in the end...
    Loan of a tenner?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Tail Wagger


    Loan of a tenner?

    No Problem @ 15% ok.?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭2 stroke


    Sell one of your televisions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭DonJose


    Cancel your internet.

    If you drink, drink 1 pint less a week.

    If you smoke, give it up.

    If you eat, fast for one day a week.

    Don't buy toilet roll, wipe with free newspapers.

    Sell you pets......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭bog master


    A bit off topic, but take a case like OP. Absolutely flat broke, no income and TV license is now due and he/she cannot afford to pay it. What would one have to do to avoid prosecution? Sell the tv, sign an affidavit you will not watch it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭lucy2010


    Same situation but a friend suggested TV licence stamps - €4 each. So when i collect in PO weekly i get a couple of stamps. Mine is due now end of month. so If mr TV licence calls im gonna show him my book of little stamps ( think €60 in it) Ill show the receipts & he can just relax the cax & see im making an effort every week to buy them. If he doesnt like it take me to court & all the judge is gonna see is me making an effort to pay. So if they really want to waste a few thousand of tax payers money recouping the balance , off with them....
    OP, start doing it even now, write them a letter saying this is what you are doing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    gsxr1 wrote: »
    My work has dried up completely
    I cant get any dole
    I have just enough to cover the mortgage

    Now i have a final notice for a tv lience.

    Seems like pocket change to some. But its a massive mountain of money when there is just no work.

    What will happen. No point fining me. I cant pay that either.

    www.QualityIrishCarpentry@gmail.com

    Dude, you're a carpenter.
    Surely you can knock some sort of spring loaded TV housing that ejects from, or folds into, the wall/ceiling/ floor.
    When the inspector calls, just say you gotta check on the kids before letting him in to survey for no TV.
    Then clunk, click, Bob's your uncle.

    Who knows, if it works I might get you down to put one in for me as well.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Havent we learned anything as a nation?

    If you cant afford it you cant have it. Simples

    So nobodys financial circumstances ever change right ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭Agent J


    Cant pay your TV licence?

    Its people like you making Gerry Ryan having to pay for his own coffee every morning.

    How can we afford to pay the top quality talent their modest salarys without the TV licence?







    *needs to go and take a long shower after saying that*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    I haven't had a TV licence for 10 years , since I bought my house, never had a letter about it , but I know someday the knock will come and I will have to get one , when that happens I am going to go to court and fight this rich mans tax so RTE can pay inflated wages to talentless souls. They can fcuk right off and I will go to jail if I have to, I pay a subscription each month to watch the TV I want and it ain't fcuking RTE so why be taxed for the equipment I use to watch what I pay for. I think I will lobby Chorus and Sky to provide subscriptions minus the dross that is RTE and see what happens then . People could then put this yearly tax towards a subscription they want , like Disney or the Porn channel.

    Happy Saturday everyone.

    * All of the above may change to suit my mood when the TV licence inpector does eventually call:)


    Really I am in great form today


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    mikom wrote: »
    Dude, you're a carpenter.
    Surely you can knock some sort of spring loaded TV housing that ejects from, or folds into, the wall/ceiling/ floor.
    When the inspector calls, just say you gotta check on the kids before letting him in to survey for no TV.
    Then clunk, click, Bob's your uncle.

    Who knows, if it works I might get you down to put one in for me as well.

    You may have just had a dragons den moment my friend, get it patented fast:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    mikom wrote: »
    Dude, you're a carpenter.
    Surely you can knock some sort of spring loaded TV housing that ejects from, or folds into, the wall/ceiling/ floor.
    When the inspector calls, just say you gotta check on the kids before letting him in to survey for no TV.
    Then clunk, click, Bob's your uncle.

    Who knows, if it works I might get you down to put one in for me as well.
    lonad wrote: »
    You amy have just had a dragons den moment my friend, get it patented fast:pac:

    Yeah, thinkin' of calling it "The Inspector Gadget".




  • Do they already know you have a TV/have you paid before? If so, write and explain your circumstances and pay a little each month. If not, get rid of your TV and tell them you don't have one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    DonJose wrote: »
    Cancel your internet.

    If you drink, drink 1 pint less a week.

    If you smoke, give it up.

    If you eat, fast for one day a week.

    Don't buy toilet roll, wipe with free newspapers.

    Sell you pets......

    and what if you don't eat :D ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    DonJose wrote: »
    If you eat, fast for one day a week.

    Sell you pets......

    Wouldnt it be simpler to just eat your pets ?

    Unless your pet is a rotwieller. In which case its just a matter of training him to recognice the scent of TV licence inspectors


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 waspie


    tell them that you sent the money to beverly flynn to save them all the administration costs . sure thats where all the RTE money went under bertie.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 Jonagod


    Don't pay it, refuse to let inspector in house and refuse to give him your name (completely legal) just keep tv's away from windows cause the crafty bastards will take photo's

    theyll leave you alone eventually, TV license is a complete scam anyway - I don't recall being legally obliged to purchase DVD's from extra vision I didnt want to watch. - TV license NO DIFFERENT

    (Pro Tip, its not actually a service it's entertainment)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Jonagod wrote: »
    just keep tv's away from windows cause the crafty bastards will take photo's

    What are the legalities on pointing a camera through the window of someone elses private residence ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭Elessar


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    What are the legalities on pointing a camera through the window of someone elses private residence ?

    If they're on your property (your garden) you can tell them to leave, but I don't think you can physically stop them taking photos.

    Just pull the blinds down :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    I bought a license once, when the inspector called and asked if I had a TV I said yes. I bought the license to avoid any hassle knowing that I move house every year. I won't pay it until I have to. If you deny having a TV is there anything they can do?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 Jonagod


    I bought a license once, when the inspector called and asked if I had a TV I said yes. I bought the license to avoid any hassle knowing that I move house every year. I won't pay it until I have to. If you deny having a TV is there anything they can do?


    Not really, why do you think they have so many scare tactic ad's - if it was that easy to catch you out, they'd never mention it and make double on fines.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Last time I'm going to say this in a TV license thread.

    Just do not pay it.

    There is nothing they can do.

    There is no way they can prove you have a TV without going to the Gardai, getting a search warrant and having them raid your home.

    That will not happen.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Is it really necessary to have a TV if you have a computer OP?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭Elessar


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Is it really necessary to have a TV if you have a computer OP?

    Funny enough a computer would come under the requirement for getting a licence.

    Any device which is capable of receiving TV signals requires a licence. Not just TVs. It's mad.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Elessar wrote: »
    Funny enough a computer would come under the requirement for getting a licence.

    Any device which is capable of receiving TV signals requires a licence. Not just TVs. It's mad.

    only if the computer has a TV card...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭Elessar


    only if the computer has a TV card...

    EDIT: My sources were wrong :D

    Indeed it is only if you have a computer in conjunction with a device which can receive TV signals (aerial, cable, satelite etc.)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    :D:D TV License You say.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    What are the legalities on pointing a camera through the window of someone elses private residence ?


    I don't know but would you at least smile , say cheese:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭gsxr1


    right. going to buy 20 of those stamps. get a start on them. They have my name. In fact the inspector arrived the week after our house was built.

    It really makes me sick that i could go to jail because Jerry needs his massive wage each week. There really is no honest justice with this. really.

    I would not be as pissed of it RTE did not advertise just as much as tv3.


    ahhh. pissed off with this whole poxy country .........:mad::mad::mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭noelo


    A guy I know his girlfriend answered the the door to an inspector and said yes we do have a telly (dope) any way after a couple of consecuitive unexpected callsl( the front door was not aswered) the man returned with two other men??????? anyway it ws still ot answered and then not long after that a summons arrived. He went to court and had to fork out 350 plus a licence. He over heard the inspector say to the judge "I observed a television set through the window". it would of been cheaper to get some blinds and tell his girl to shut up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭4leto


    Go to court when you are fined say you can't pay and go to prison, from there you will be taken to mountjoy signed in and told to go home. There is no room for you.

    Or you might be unlucky and end up behind bars for a few days, but I doubt it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭Chinasea


    we've heard all the excuses


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭Lefticus Loonaticus


    gsxr1 wrote: »
    My work has dried up completely
    I cant get any dole
    I have just enough to cover the mortgage

    Now i have a final notice for a tv lience.

    Seems like pocket change to some. But its a massive mountain of money when there is just no work.

    What will happen. No point fining me. I cant pay that either.

    *Passes bucket of slop to gsxr1*

    I want that back when your done, cheers.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    4leto wrote: »
    Go to court when you are fined say you can't pay and go to prison, from there you will be taken to mountjoy signed in and told to go home. There is no room for you.

    Or you might be unlucky and end up behind bars for a few days, but I doubt it.
    I hear they have TV's in the cells nowadays.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Watch your neighbours' TV through their window.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,727 ✭✭✭reallyrose


    You can pay 13 euro per month, it's what I do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 220 ✭✭DramaQuee


    I had no money for oil to heat my house last year. I still haven't any oil, going into the winter, now I have received reminder of tv licence. As you can imagine, getting rid of tv as well as sitting in a cold house is dire, dire final resort. Yes! we wear coats inside all winter. People who aren't so strapped don't realise how important EVERY 10 euros is, constant juggling is going on to try get by. I don't drink or smoke, if I go out with a friend - once a month or so, I drink tapwater. I haven't had a holiday in years, and God knows someone living like this needs a break from it.

    I have been looking for work for 2 years, despite being well qualified I get so nervous in job interviews I can't represent myself properly, this stress is adding to the whole problem. I get upset for days after one of these diabolical interviews which has a huge impact on my 2 children. Each extra bill adds to the pressure, I can hardly afford food for my family, all these extra bills like a household charge and tv licence are luxuries. If I had a few extra euro, I'd get oil to heat my house. Sometimes I feel I can't go on.


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