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Competition Barrels from Lilja
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The ultimate wobblemeterIt wasn't me! wrote: »If your hold gets good enough that you can push the foresight out to the end of that thing it'll be interesting.
I must check what the overall length would be, and the sight radius compared to the original.
Watch this space
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I think it's the right ideaI think you've got the wrong idea about 25yd rifle!
The sight radius is currently just over 1m from aperture to aperture. The Lilja barrel will add another 177mm to that, but I can bring the foresight back as much as 200mm, so I can keep it as it is if necessary. Standard sight radius on a normal Anschütz barrel is 800mm.
The main problem with having such a long sight radius is not so much the wobble but the fact that the foresight does a Fr. Dougal on it: "small... very far away" 0 -
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Putting a 21" in my 1913, and addng a MEC Strike to get my sight radius back to roughly what it is now. I fancy a bit less weight and the accuracy should be the same in the bull barrel. Its a 21" that Matt Emmons uses AFAIK, with a tube. He seems to be doing alright with it
I've tried tubes on the end of trhe Anschutz 690 barrel before, but any advantage I gained on the larger sight radius I more than lost on the wobble, plus in a crosswind I thought the tube caught the wind a little. Its bloody long with 8" on the end of the barrel!
Looking back I was getting a poor sight picture and trying anyting to improve it when the answer really was that I needed a lens. Took a while to convince myself as my eyesight is really good. In fact I have a friend who's a fighter pilot and my eyes are better than his 0 -
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Isn't that a pretty picture. Thanks Tack, would that be my 27" barrel unwrapped at the front? Looks very nice!
See a couple of 21" Ruger 10/22 barrels there. Anyone who has a 10/22 and wants a lot more accuracy, that's the answer right there.
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Isn't that a pretty picture. Thanks Tack, would that be my 27" barrel unwrapped at the front? Looks very nice!
See a couple of 21" Ruger 10/22 barrels there. Anyone who has a 10/22 and wants a lot more accuracy, that's the answer right there.
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I think it is RRPC.
And yes they are shiney!
I always found a picture paints a thousand words
He has all his stuff keenly priced in his shop.
Only that I had no way to bring more stuff i might have picked up a nice Hunting jacket.0 -
Well thanks again Tack, it's nice to have a picture of it while I'm waiting for the real thing.Tackleberrywho wrote: »I think it is RRPC.
And yes they are shiney!
I always found a picture paints a thousand words
He has all his stuff keenly priced in his shop.
Only that I had no way to bring more stuff i might have picked up a nice Hunting jacket.
Were you tempted yourself?0 -
Well thanks again Tack, it's nice to have a picture of it while I'm waiting for the real thing.
Were you tempted yourself?
I'm not sure what calibre I'll go next, so it's easy not be tempted.
What I do know is the ammo I got off him kicks more than the 155grain .308 that i am used to.
It will be very interesting to see 125grain BTip'ed trajectory and speeds.
Dwight might "loan" me a chrono so I'll see what speeds it's creating in a 20" barrel configuration.
I have not time to check out it any further as I have to work this evening
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What you have to realise is that they've been shooting fullbore rifles in NI a lot longer than we have, so there's a huge depth of experience at both shooter and dealer level there that we haven't caught up with yet.Tackleberrywho wrote: »I'm not sure what calibre I'll go next, so it's easy not be tempted.
What I do know is the ammo I got off him kicks more than the 155grain .308 that i am used to.
It will be very interesting to see 125grain BTip'ed trajectory and speeds.
Dwight might "loan" me a chrono so I'll see what speeds it's creating in a 20" barrel configuration.
I have not time to check out it any further as I have to work this evening
So if they say something's good, chances are there's years of experience behind that opinion.
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It wasn't me! wrote: »They'll be fast and flat. Not quite as fast or flat as a similar weight in a calibre for which it's optimal, but not bad. They won't be good in wind, however.
IWM, you are telling me stuff I have known a long time. It's how flat and how fast that interests me
As I said they seem bigger kickers and I have fired several different brands in the last few days to give me an accurate comparison.
And better again will be to see what there terminal effect is on Bambi and a few Madraí Rua's
On the camo tape note, I noticed zero difference with it on or off in regards dB's.
However I will leave it on as it looks well on.
I might even put tape on the scope for the hunting season for the laugh
I'm going back to Intershoots in 2 weeks lads if you want any specific pics of barrels taken or stock 0 -
This is the first chance I've had to post an update on the new barrel. Fitting it was even easier than I expected; taking about ten minutes in all: 2 minutes doing it and 8 minutes wondering whether it really was that simple
The 2013 action is held in the stock with four bedding bolts at a torque setting of 5nM. Once you've undone them, the barrel and action just lifts out.
On the underside of the action there are three barrel clamp bolts (also at 5nM torque) and one set screw that locks the barrel in place before tightening the clamps. The photo below shows all 4 with an additional cap screw which is there to prevent the set screw loosening. These are the ones with the red paint on them.
Once you remove the cap screw and loosen the set screw and clamp screws, the barrel just slides out.
Here are the action and barrel separated. The bolt is in place for a reason that will become aparent later.
Then next step is to fit the new barrel which is just a matter of sliding it into place with the flat face at the bottom. This is the flattened section in the photo below which is designed to mate with the set screw.
This is where you need the bolt in place. I got a Lapua Midas+ round and extracted the head and powder leaving me with just a primed case. This was inserted in the chamber and the bolt closed on it (the safety catch was on to avoid making unnecessary noise).
With the bolt closed, I then gently pressed the barrel home until it met the head of the brass and tigtened the set screw and then the three clamp bolts.
Eject the brass, remove the bolt and I have a fitted barrel, headspaced for Lapua ammunition ready to go back in the stock.
Finished. Very shiny indeed
I have a long extension tube for the short barrel, which is far too long when attached to the new barel, so a friend very kindly gave me a short extension tube which pretty much gives the same sight radius as the previous setup without the extra sail area.
Because the weight distribution has changed drastically with the longer barrel, I've had to make some changes to my handstop position and butt plate height. I've only made very small changes so far and will stick with them for a while until I've properly got to know the characteristics of what is in essence a new rifle.
The DURC open today was the first real test and as I wasn't really expecting to do anything more than get used to the new setup, I just used some Lapua Sugnum I had for the match. Signum is pistol ammo, but works pretty well in rifles, so I reckoned it would be good enough for a reasonable score.
And so it turned out, though a lot better than I was expecting tbh. The sixty shot group was very solid with no fliers and nothing outside the nine ring. At 25 yards, that's a 20mm group - with pistol ammo :cool:.
The balance was good and I shot pretty quickly, as I was fairly tired from having shot two matches the previous day in the NASRPC sporting rifle and benchrest pistol event, so there's plenty of room for improvement. I was finished in 50 minutes having shot about thirty sighters and 60 match shots and finished with a reasonable enough 573.
Most of the problems I was having with recoil from the short barrel seem to have disappeared and I've no doubt that the barrel is more accurate and groups a lot better than the old one. I'm really looking forward to giving it another competitive run soon. 0 -
Glad to hear it all went to plan rrpc!
Just in case anyone reading this thinks this is only available for the 20 series we have been fitting these barrels to both 18 series and 19 series Anschutz rifles as well, which makes a fantastic job of a tired barreled action.
HPS do the fitting for us and it is superb - some really good results with the finished article!
If anyone wants more info just give me a call 0
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